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2014-01-31 Home Front: Politix
America Has Turned Away from Christian Values - VP
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Posted by OldSpook 2014-01-31 00:46|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top

#1  March 8, 1983, Ronald Reagan said this about Russia to an audience of evangelicals:

Yes, let us pray for the salvation of all of those who live in that totalitarian darkness--pray they will discover the joy of knowing God. But until they do, let us be aware that while they preach the supremacy of the state, declare its omnipotence over individual man, and predict its eventual domination of all peoples on the Earth, they are the focus of evil in the modern world.


A bit frightening that this "they preach the supremacy of the state, declare its omnipotence over individual man, and predict its eventual domination of all peoples on the Earth" sounds like like Obama, Soros and a lot of those people in DC. Time for a revolution if things don't change.
Posted by OldSpook 2014-01-31 00:59||   2014-01-31 00:59|| Front Page Top

#2 Way overdue for a reset.
Posted by Secret Asian Man 2014-01-31 04:38||   2014-01-31 04:38|| Front Page Top

#3 Sorry, I cannot tell the difference.
Posted by Besoeker 2014-01-31 04:51||   2014-01-31 04:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Yeah, the Islamicists preach this rot of supremacy over others as well. What Reagan said. What Besoeker said too.
Posted by JohnQC 2014-01-31 06:52||   2014-01-31 06:52|| Front Page Top

#5 No. The American GIVERnment has moved away from Christianity.
Posted by Airandee 2014-01-31 07:01||   2014-01-31 07:01|| Front Page Top

#6 Let's see -
The tenets of socialism (vs Christianity) -

Thou shall covet - check
Thou shall bear false witness - check
Thou shall steal - check

works for a lot of people apparently.
Posted by Procopius2k 2014-01-31 08:49||   2014-01-31 08:49|| Front Page Top

#7 So one of the big patrons of Hezbollah is gonna pretend to be holier-than-thou?
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2014-01-31 10:14||   2014-01-31 10:14|| Front Page Top

#8 Unfortunately, Putin is holier than Obama.

America has not turned away from Christian values; Obama, the CPUSA and the Soviet Socialist Republic of America has turned away from Christian values.

Al
Posted by No Longer Frozen Al 2014-01-31 11:24||   2014-01-31 11:24|| Front Page Top

#9 Vlad is as willing to use the Church as Stalin ever was...

When I first saw the headline I thought maybe Joe Biden was having a twinge of Catholic conscience for all those aborted babies. Well, Russians abort a lot of their babies too, probably a lot more than Americans. But one thing Putin recognizes is that Russia's population is shrinking and if the trend continues the Eurasian territory that is controlled by Russians is likely to shrink as well. It's also pretty easy to guess who will fill the vacuum and they won't be friendly and they won't be Christians either. So if Putin uses the church to promote family values and make more Russian babies then more power to him. We'll never see Obama doing that. I think it's pretty scary when I like the Russian president better than the guy in the White House.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2014-01-31 12:11||   2014-01-31 12:11|| Front Page Top

#10 Russia banning gays, encouraging marriage and children and preaching a return to Christian values.

US elects as president a Muslim from Kenya who grew up in Indonesia, bows to the Saudis and thinks we have 57 states.

My head hurts.
Posted by Iblis 2014-01-31 13:10||   2014-01-31 13:10|| Front Page Top

#11 ...OS, you are a rascal...
Posted by Uncle Phester 2014-01-31 13:14||   2014-01-31 13:14|| Front Page Top

#12 #10 Russia banning gays, encouraging marriage and children and preaching a return to Christian values.

US elects as president a Muslim from Kenya who grew up in Indonesia, bows to the Saudis and thinks we have 57 states.


This means we won the cold war? Right? Right!?
Posted by nguard 2014-01-31 14:01||   2014-01-31 14:01|| Front Page Top

#13 Found a link to Putin's Dec. address from an official (I think) source.
Today, many nations are revising their moral values and ethical norms, eroding ethnic traditions and differences between peoples and cultures. Society is now required not only to recognise everyone’s right to the freedom of consciousness, political views and privacy, but also to accept without question the equality of good and evil, strange as it seems, concepts that are opposite in meaning. This destruction of traditional values from above not only leads to negative consequences for society, but is also essentially anti-democratic, since it is carried out on the basis of abstract, speculative ideas, contrary to the will of the majority, which does not accept the changes occurring or the proposed revision of values. We know that there are more and more people in the world who support our position on defending traditional values that have made up the spiritual and moral foundation of civilisation in every nation for thousands of years: the values of traditional families, real human life, including religious life, not just material existence but also spirituality, the values of humanism and global diversity.

I get a bit dizzy when I consider the source of this statement.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418  2014-01-31 14:16||   2014-01-31 14:16|| Front Page Top

#14 We'll never bring them to agreement on anything. They both despise and hate one another.

Vlad despises Champ because he believes him to be an rank amateur tyrant, and black, male prostitute.

Champ despises Vlad because Vlad is a highly successful tyrant, but not a black, male prostitute.
Posted by Besoeker 2014-01-31 15:16||   2014-01-31 15:16|| Front Page Top

#15 
Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values... Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan.
-- I was not able to find this statement in the English language translation of Putin's 13 Dec 2013 presidential speech. Nearly all web hits for "a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan" are found in cites quoting Breitbart. I doubt Putin actually said this.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418  2014-01-31 15:27||   2014-01-31 15:27|| Front Page Top

#16 Found a likely official source, speech 19 Sept 2013, actual translation/quote was:
We can see how many of the Euro-Atlantic countries are actually rejecting their roots, including the Christian values that constitute the basis of Western civilisation. They are denying moral principles and all traditional identities: national, cultural, religious and even sexual. They are implementing policies that equate large families with same-sex partnerships, belief in God with the belief in Satan.

I expected more accuracy than this from Breitbart.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418  2014-01-31 15:45||   2014-01-31 15:45|| Front Page Top

#17 A recent comment on Putin from "Spengler":
The Saudi monarchy is fighting for survival, against Islamists like the Muslim Brotherhood organized on the model of 20th-century totalitarian parties, and against Iran. Iran is fighting for survival; after its fertility rate fell from 7 children per female in 1979 to just 1.7 today, today’s youth bulge will turn into an unsupportable elderly dependent ratio. Egypt is fighting to pay the grocer’s bill every day. It is not within America’s or anyone’s power to reverse this decline. Putin understands this and exploits their struggle for survival... we watch helplessly as Russia pursues [policies] in its own interest... Putin has more brains and insight than anyone in the American foreign policy establishment, and he is winning by laps rather than lengths... a bit of reflection on why Russia runs circles around us might also be in order.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418  2014-01-31 16:14||   2014-01-31 16:14|| Front Page Top

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