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2014-03-01 Europe

CNN airing new image of Russian tanks in Ukraine

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Posted by Uncle Phester 2014-03-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 2S3s 122mm self propelled artillery

Posted by badanov 2014-03-01 00:08|| http://www.chriscovert.net 2014-03-01 00:08|| Front Page Top

#2 Sevastopol, naval infantry from the base perhaps. Bad, aren't 2s3 are 155mm SPArty? Usually a regimental level asset from what I remember.

Based on the number and spacing of the road wheels and tracks in the pic, those are 2s1 122mm SPArty. Naval infantry more likely to use those,they have a pt76 amphib chassis (hence the road wheel config as a giveaway). Saw/killed some of those back in GW1 that belonged to Tawakalna division.

Ukraine operates those too, they have a few hundred of them. So how does CNN they know they're Russian? Not enough detail in the photo where I could see that, and I don't exactly trust the military acumen of CNN reporters (tanks? snort).

Posted by OldSpook 2014-03-01 00:59|| 2014-03-01 00:59|| Front Page Top

#3 Poland's military has worked side by side with Ukraine's military. Look for them to form an alliance.

Posted by Omavising Ebbemp9815 2014-03-01 01:02|| 2014-03-01 01:02|| Front Page Top

#4 Sevastopol has amphib ships tthere along with a naval infantry brigade and an independent NI battalion, so 2s1 battery in the pic could come from there.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-03-01 01:09|| 2014-03-01 01:09|| Front Page Top

#5 My guess is the Russians will be acting fast in the hours and days to come. I suspect the Ukrainians are on their own, with the rest of the FSU satellites taking copious notes and securing their own defenses. The EU will shrug and say nothing. Champ has "more flexibility" to do nothing, now that the election is long over. Besides, he needs a calm Romania and Black Sea air corridor for his AFG pullout.

If I am wrong, WWIII has just started.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-03-01 01:18|| 2014-03-01 01:18|| Front Page Top

#6 2S1s. You're right, OS.

Posted by badanov 2014-03-01 05:01|| http://www.chriscovert.net 2014-03-01 05:01|| Front Page Top

#7
Any prudent person (e.g. someone not from flyover hinterlands) can tell that these are armed with large calibre AK47's. Therefore, Russian.

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2014-03-01 09:22|| 2014-03-01 09:22|| Front Page Top

#8 Tanks; CNN says so. You can tell by the large capacity AK47 assault shotguns - even have bayonet pistol grips. They could be uncontested Russian tourists or Tea Party laying seige to women.

(not making light of the situation; the lack of serious reporting. Bring up the subject of braised duck and the sobs are on point)

Posted by swksvolFF 2014-03-01 10:11|| 2014-03-01 10:11|| Front Page Top

#9 A part of me is aghast nothing is being done in Washington. The other part is hoping we don't get involved, since Ukraine has good example of how to run an insurgency in...well, yeah.

Anyway it was obvious from Champs statement that he'd do nothing. Turkey is more likely to do something, or Poland. This might also be the start of an entirely new regional block aimed at defense against Russian Incursion.

More importantly I see this as the dissolving of the treaties and alliances left over from the Cold War, and the forming of new ones. With the US left out in the open with few allies worth a damn.

Posted by Charles 2014-03-01 10:57|| 2014-03-01 10:57|| Front Page Top

#10 Bonehead commentator:"not sure if they are Russian"

We'll, FFS what else would they be? Siberian tourists?

Posted by Mojo 2014-03-01 11:17|| 2014-03-01 11:17|| Front Page Top

#11 This is CNN

Posted by Beavis 2014-03-01 16:06|| 2014-03-01 16:06|| Front Page Top

#12 Mojo, the Ukranians uniforms and equipment are nearly identical to the Russians, so I am suspect of any troop identification by any nonprofessional. Let's see a good war correspondent report, that will give us something. In all likelihood, the insignias should indicate Russian. But the photo posted in the article link, there is only enough info to identify the vehicles, not the nationality. The 2s1 122 SP in that pic are operated by both sides (per Janes Ukraine has 400+) and they are from common stock of the former Soviet Union.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-03-01 17:35|| 2014-03-01 17:35|| Front Page Top

#13 Beavis, Exactly! To the captive press, this isn't about principle, liberty, foreign policy, national security or national prestige. It's all about how this affects Obama. After all Obama is what matters, to his cult of personality.

CNN: "Is Putin is bullying Obama?" Roflmao, what next playing the race card? What useless pieces of sh** these so called "journalists" are.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-03-01 17:43|| 2014-03-01 17:43|| Front Page Top

#14 OS I'm just utterly amazed CNN would post that the 'leader' of the free world was being bullied.

My G-d in Heaven, please let this nightmare be over

Posted by Beavis 2014-03-01 18:05|| 2014-03-01 18:05|| Front Page Top

#15 "Bullying" being the new buzzword for the cultural elite...

Posted by Pappy 2014-03-01 22:40|| 2014-03-01 22:40|| Front Page Top

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