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2015-03-10 Home Front: Politix
Obama criticizes Republicans for Iran letter over nuclear negotiations
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Posted by Fred 2015-03-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Iran 

#1 "I think it's somewhat ironic to see some members for Congress Ted Kennedy wanting to make common cause with the hardliners Yuri Andropov in Iran the Soviet Union. It's an unusual coalition."

FIFY, your highness!
Posted by Raj 2015-03-10 00:15||   2015-03-10 00:15|| Front Page Top

#2 So dumb to send the letter to Iran.
Posted by dk70 the scantily clad 2015-03-10 01:31||   2015-03-10 01:31|| Front Page Top

#3 Nothing the Democrats haven't done before, mate...
Posted by Raj 2015-03-10 01:33||   2015-03-10 01:33|| Front Page Top

#4 I understand that raj but with this issue overwhelmingly in our favor this letter creates a ridiculous distraction. Send the letter to Obama or run it in the nyt or wapo. Keep pushing on having the senate ok any deal. Instead of talking about the expected crappy deal, the focus will be on the shiny new distraction.
Posted by dk70 the scantily clad 2015-03-10 01:39||   2015-03-10 01:39|| Front Page Top

#5 dk - I think regardless of the manner in which that letter is sent out, it will be called a distraction by Obama and the buttboy national media. I'd rather have some level of resistance by the supposedly opposition party instead of them constantly caving on funding all of Obama's schemes to trash this country.
Posted by Raj 2015-03-10 01:54||   2015-03-10 01:54|| Front Page Top

#6 an equal branch on Government exerting their legitimate powers? How unpatriotic
Posted by Frank G 2015-03-10 06:59||   2015-03-10 06:59|| Front Page Top

#7 Open, signed, public letters, having no input from ValJar and his shadow government are so.......unobamic.
Posted by Besoeker 2015-03-10 07:12||   2015-03-10 07:12|| Front Page Top

#8 I seldom agree with Zero, but I don't think it appropriate for Senators to intervene in foreign affairs negotiations, and even less as a group than as individuals. Better they should do what they are supposed to - debate on the Senate floor and cut off funding.
Posted by Glenmore 2015-03-10 08:18||   2015-03-10 08:18|| Front Page Top

#9 Unlike Pelosi who actually went out and visited our enemies.
Posted by CrazyFool 2015-03-10 08:26||   2015-03-10 08:26|| Front Page Top

#10 It is and always has been common that the Senate is involved with major FP negotiations. Usually the President follows the law and knows that the Senate must ratify any treaty so it behooves him to line up the proper support, negotiating to insure that the treaty the president sends to Congress will be accepted.

L'etat cest moi, of our current regime doesn't believe in limited, check and balance gov't, common feeling among Dems, forced the 'pubs hand in the same way that Clintoon did with his Kyoto treaty. The Senate then was quite clear that no way no how was that being approved.

Dictator wannabes get shot down in different ways depending on the details.
Posted by AlanC 2015-03-10 08:41||   2015-03-10 08:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Mr. 'Executive Orders' bitch'n about appropriate exercise of Constitutional powers. How quaint.
Posted by Procopius2k 2015-03-10 08:48||   2015-03-10 08:48|| Front Page Top

#12 Where were the other spineless, gutless seven?
Posted by jvalentour 2015-03-10 09:55||   2015-03-10 09:55|| Front Page Top

#13 Yeah, and I remember the Black Caucus visiting Cuba shortly after Obama got elected back in April, 2009 and calling for a lifting of the embargo and stating what a nice guy Fidel was. Then again, a letter was sent to SOS Hillary by 76 Senators in 2010 criticizing the Obama administration for a confrontational stance towards long-standing ally Israel. Donks get over your feigned self-righteous indignation you hypocrites.

Congress could have demanded that the Constitution be adhered to by requiring the Senate to ratify Obama's treaty (or some call it capitulation; others call it the "look for a mushroom cloud over Israel or America" treaty) with Iran.

I only wish my Senators (Corker and Alexander) had signed the letter. Who they playing ball with?
Posted by JohnQC 2015-03-10 10:20||   2015-03-10 10:20|| Front Page Top

#14  I seldom agree with Zero, but I don't think it appropriate for Senators to intervene in foreign affairs negotiations, and even less as a group than as individuals

Well, they do get to approve treaties; an executive action with regards to a nuclear agreement with Iran does not rise to an enforceable treaty.

For history, see the U.S. agreement with South Viet Nam and Congress' reaction to later events. Hint: it wasn't a treaty.
Posted by Pappy 2015-03-10 11:31||   2015-03-10 11:31|| Front Page Top

#15 A competent President conducting diplomacy with integrity and with our (and our allies') best interests in mind would consult with the Legislature and our allies. Instead, we get a narcissist ic sociopath with an Anti-Israel and Anti-American streak looking for a Legacy™ at any cost.
Posted by Frank G 2015-03-10 11:38||   2015-03-10 11:38|| Front Page Top

#16 Pappy, that's pretty much what the letter said.

That unless the Senate approves the executive action is only applicable while the executive is in office. After that all bets are off, and btw the Congress can pass laws regarding anything in the agreement that negates the effect.
Posted by AlanC 2015-03-10 12:39||   2015-03-10 12:39|| Front Page Top

#17 Better they should do what they are supposed to - debate on the Senate floor and cut off funding.

Well, they're no damned good at that so they might as well send a letter. If it pisses off Obama and the Iranians I'm all for it. You certainly can't trust Obama to come up with a good deal. He never has before.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2015-03-10 13:00||   2015-03-10 13:00|| Front Page Top

#18 Another way to spin this: An international coalition ranging from Iranian hard-liners to US Senators opposes this stupid-ass agreement.
Posted by SteveS 2015-03-10 13:31||   2015-03-10 13:31|| Front Page Top

#19 CONGRESS; LETTER TO NICARAGUA: 'DEAR COMANDANTE'
Posted by  Hupineger Glomomp52169  2015-03-10 14:12||   2015-03-10 14:12|| Front Page Top

#20 When all is said and done what is the point of telling Iran that most anything that would be agreed to by Obama (and ignored by Iran) will be reversed. Let them both waste their time.
Posted by rjschwarz 2015-03-10 14:32||   2015-03-10 14:32|| Front Page Top

#21 The Dems did it too is not a good excuse. I hold the Republicans to a higher standard. Voicing their displeasure is ok. Sending letters to Iran was dumb. The Senate should have used their powers in the process and and taken the "Proposed treaty" to the floor for a vote, like our constitutional process calls for. The real issue here is McConnell is just playing politics and his intentions was, is, and always will be for the betterment of Mitch McConnell, not the American people. Note his railing on illegal aliens and his capitulation in the end. All this drama is nothing more than drama in DC, with no real desire from either side to do do anything responsible.

All the while our enemies grow stronger and more lethal.
Posted by 49 Pan 2015-03-10 15:20||   2015-03-10 15:20|| Front Page Top

#22 Let them both waste their time.

But they aren't just wasting time, rjschwarz. They're together running out the clock until iran gets its functioning nuclear weapons, keeping Israel from doing anything effective to stop it in the meantime. Iran doesn't actually care if an agreement is reached, so long as the effort is not actually stopped. Even an increase in sanctions is acceptable as an interim step -- it'll really only harm the common people, and what care the Mullahs for such as they?
Posted by trailing wife 2015-03-10 15:45||   2015-03-10 15:45|| Front Page Top

#23 Re: Terrorists/Terrorist Sponsoring States

No Negotiations.

No Deals.

Nuke related facilities will be destroyed before this is possible:

Posted by Ebbomosh Hupemp2664 2015-03-10 16:05||   2015-03-10 16:05|| Front Page Top

#24 The Dems did it too is not a good excuse. I hold the Republicans to a higher standard.

And that is one of the reasons you lost the republic. For the Donks its all about power. They only go through with the rituals and formalities to keep the masses in line and to fork over their sons and daughters to keep them in power. Till the fight is over, you use everything you got to win.

At the start of WWII most nations denounced the indiscriminate bombing of civilian populations and torpedoing of unarmed merchant ships. By the end, everyone was doing it. It's what you do with the power after you win that matters. Use the standards the other side has employed against them.
Posted by Procopius2k 2015-03-10 16:08||   2015-03-10 16:08|| Front Page Top

#25 681 days; 7 hours; 57 minutes; and 12 seconds til he's gone
Posted by Total War  2015-03-10 17:08||   2015-03-10 17:08|| Front Page Top

#26 ^^^^ I still don't think I will make it. During his trip to Atlanta today I had to watch this fool land and them licking his ass during lunch. At 36 I thought I was having my first heart attack.
Posted by chris 2015-03-10 22:01||   2015-03-10 22:01|| Front Page Top

#27 It was not necessary to draft this. It is good you show support for Israel but drafting resolutions means more.

It is not illegal, but it is a poisoned atmosphere.

The Iranians were aware by what was transmitted via twitter.

Do not play democrat games if you may avoid it. I know your Hearts were in the right place but take a look about... you do not need to be in the news cycle this way. The hillary hemorrhage has just begun so be quiet and handcuff as much stupid legislation as possible.
Posted by newc 2015-03-10 23:36||   2015-03-10 23:36|| Front Page Top

#28 Also, you should have shut the government down and that other useless department and appendages.


I shut it down every 3 days
Posted by newc 2015-03-10 23:41||   2015-03-10 23:41|| Front Page Top

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