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2015-08-06 -Lurid Crime Tales-

Rodent research using Planned Parenthood parts.

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Posted by Besoeker 2015-08-06 02:32|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top

#1 i like family planning. I think contraception is a social good. Empowering women to use contraception is the only reliable cure for poverty.

With time to get an education and to educate fewer children, it lifts the floor of the entire village in poverty struck third world conditions.

Having 3 kids instead of 11 is a world of difference. Women don't usually want to be kept permanently pregnant like breeder cows, given a choice they usually prefer fewer kids.

the best form of contraception is the implanon stick - inject it in the arm for 3 years of guaranteed no pregnancy.

and stem cell research is terrific. It will lead to cures for many diseases and problems, perhaps even regrow spinal cords for quadriplegics.

Posted by anon1 2015-08-06 09:01|| 2015-08-06 09:01|| Front Page Top

#2 Having 3 kids instead of 11 is a world of difference.

Back before social security, medicare, et al, your family was the old age pension system (as in honor thy father and mother). With high infancy mortality rates, the only way to make that insurance system work was to insure you have enough kids to survive to adulthood to care for you in old age. That's why the actuarial table reflected a time when men outlived women on the average. Complication of child birth coupled with that high infant mortality rate meant shorter life spans. They face the same problem today in third world countries. Introduce modern medical practices, as a sonogram, and they start aborting females by the bucketful for that very reason, to have someone to take care of them in their old age.

Posted by Procopius2k 2015-08-06 10:26|| 2015-08-06 10:26|| Front Page Top

#3 Abortion should never be used as a form of contraception.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2015-08-06 10:38|| 2015-08-06 10:38|| Front Page Top

#4 The total fertility rate around the world, according to the CIA World Factbook -- a wonderful resource -- is already considerably closer to three than eleven, anon1. The highest is Niger at 6.89 children per woman, while about half the countries listed are below the replacement number of 2.1, a terrifying thought.

Agreed that stem cell research is terrific. But subcutaneous fat is full of stem cells, it turns out. There's plenty of that available in the industrialized countries, and there would be plenty of willing donors, if asked -- no need to kill born-alive babies in order to acquire the valuable cells, which at any rate are no longer stem cells once they've differentiated into organs.

Separately, in response to Besoeker's link about New Hampshire, a native writes about the situation there, which I found illuminating:

But What Will Poor People Do If Planned Parenthood Is Defunded?.

Posted by trailing wife 2015-08-06 10:57|| 2015-08-06 10:57|| Front Page Top

#5 >below the replacement number of 2.1, a terrifying thought.

Why terrifying? It's people deciding what the rate should be that's terrifying. Population marxists should be dismissed as soundly as economic marxists are.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2015-08-06 11:03|| 2015-08-06 11:03|| Front Page Top

#6 Bright Pebbles: you are right, women should choose for themselves how many kids they want, not governments. But they should also have the social freedom to be able to choose, access to contraception and the power to use it - three things often missing. especially when religion and tribalism come into it

ahh Procopius - v. interesting i recall The Dictator (sascha baron cohen) - so, is it a boy or an abortion?

trailing wife - I am not sure those factbook figures are very accurate, having travelled a bit in africa and the middle east... In the West many women don't have kids. Many are picky and choose no husband rather than a poor choice. But in say, Oman, the picky women who don't want kids/husband are forced to marry. So one man has 4 wives. And then they are forced to breed. 9 kids per wife. So measuring per woman (the number comes down a bit with miscarriages/stillbirths factored in) you get say 5 per woman but that is from 4 women - and every woman has to pretty much. Social coercion. It's not unusual for one man to have 27 children from 4 wives there, and with medical and education paid for by the gas industry, they all survive to adulthood unlike africa.

Deacon Blues: Good point, abortion should never be used as contraception. That's what the pill, implanon and IUDs and condoms are for.

I have no problem with first trimester abortions for women who were raped, for genetic deformities and for emergencies where clearly the woman will be a completely unfit parent and may self-harm (eg: teenagers or chronic drug abusers).

But this is not the same thing as using it as a contraceptive.

Posted by anon1 2015-08-06 11:50|| 2015-08-06 11:50|| Front Page Top

#7 Forgive my plain speak, but wymen were made to have babies, not have big pharma chemicals impede the natural order of things. Negative impacts appear to take their toll on replenishment rates, culture, and yes, the female psyche. Been watching this process for a very long time. It's just my untrained observation of nature.

By the way, men are supposed to be hunters, gatherers, and family providers. Not all is well there either, and chemicals are also to blame.

There I said it !

Posted by Besoeker 2015-08-06 14:23|| 2015-08-06 14:23|| Front Page Top

#8 Just keep the frickin' government out of it. The government screws up everything and taxes me to do it. Let people do what they are going to do. DO NOT tax me to pay for anybody's abortion. I don't want the blood on my hands. I don't want to pay for poor women to have birth control pills and I don't want to pay to support their fatherless children either. What ever happened to people being responsible for themselves and suffering the consequences if they don't?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2015-08-06 15:56|| 2015-08-06 15:56|| Front Page Top

#9 Mr. Gu.

A darkly appropriate name.

Posted by swksvolFF 2015-08-06 18:05|| 2015-08-06 18:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Stem cells? I'm all for it. FETAL stem cells? No. Consider the source. Autologous stem cells is where the best results come from. Fetal, not so useful on top of the huge moral problems with their use.

Posted by OldSpook 2015-08-06 21:40|| 2015-08-06 21:40|| Front Page Top

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