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2015-10-03 -Land of the Free

This Week In Guns, October 3rd, 2015

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Posted by badanov 2015-10-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 The consensus out here is the ban wagon was wheeled out quick and hard so the topic is, again, about banning all firearms, a hot topic to hash over and over - and not talk about the murderer and his intentions. Or background.

Thank you for the O'really? link. Have not listened to him for years now, but know people do.

Also saw the re-publish at huffer of shawn the van driver - not sure where to start on that, though I'm sure it had been covered. The papers, your papers please and the At The Stroke of a Pen is the obvious, but it was the 40 hours of training (80 for CC) which shows his ass.

First, who can take a week bloc off from work except the affluent or well connected? Its nice that when he was in the service, he was paid to instruct people being paid to take instruction while somebody else paid for the ammo, electricity, coffee, toilet paper, food, weapons, and so forth. His background as perspective would eliminate nearly everyone from the choice of having a firearm - well except for criminals. And besides, do you take the training first then get your ticket, but you need your firearm to take the class - unless the class is all classwork and no range time, which the class is a total failure without range time. I don't care what he was, he is now somebody who feels they made it, and doesn't want anybody else to be able to make it. Fuck him.

I'm going to take a second to plug Mom and Pop's. If you are considering, or brand new, your Mom and Pop stores are a great resource of information (the ones I have been to at least) they like what they are doing, and people who like what they do talk to them. They are not bound by the big box constraints (on one hand, the clerks who are just register monkeys and act like they couldn't shut the water off to an overflowing toilet, and the others who are so swamped with customers that they simply cannot give you personal consulting time). Yes, you may pay an extra couple dollars but the knowledge those small shop owners possess is worth that, especially if you build that relationship by purchasing ammo and accessories from them. They will have suggestions, they will know which ranges are good or bad, probably even give a basic maintenance procedure on your new purchase.

But all that is useless unless you have the will to defend yours. I have no proven suggestions for that, as I have not had to, other than thinking about and giving myself permission that nobody will freely fuck with mine. Call it a long, personal prayer for guidance and strength, that I have more love and compassion for mine than the barbarian, that it is my instruction to care for mine first and foremost, and to do otherwise is immoral.

It is that last point where professional and volunteer responders get into a very personal entanglement. And if something is happening to you or yours, the barbarian made the first move, and by definition you are the first responder. I tugged on that knot by choosing that I may not win, but I will not lose. Suggestions?

Posted by swksvolFF 2015-10-03 11:59|| 2015-10-03 11:59|| Front Page Top

#2 $18-$19 trillion national debt and Obama goes nuts over a school shooting where the security guard was unarmed? I call squirrel.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2015-10-03 13:17|| 2015-10-03 13:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Tyrannosquirrelus? Dammit, ~~Mr. T ate~~ Dave Barry stole my hapax.

Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2015-10-03 15:37|| 2015-10-03 15:37|| Front Page Top

#4 When that barbarian shot up those nice people in the church, everything down to the size of his underwear was being reported faster than you could say shit stain. This is remarkably quiet coupled with the grabbers pressing the emergency bullshit release button.

I hate the concept of shelter in place. Hate it. Would you shelter in place if it were a fire.

Nearly every structure and vehicle built has a common design - how to get out if there is a fire. I'd say use your head. I'm sure a mass panic creates a number of headaches for the LEOs, and you sure do not want to be confused with the bad guy(s), as well as the many dangers of a stampede. May just have to go caveman.

Speaking of which, still chuckling at Modern Man. I realize that article is really a sad man's public confession (writing about himself in the 3rd person as a model male figure - sort of a reverse side of Gollum, no?) as is lower fruit than a strawberry for anyone who lives outside a cocktail party. Taking a look at this brave man who sleeps closer to the door to hold off the raider while the wife makes her escape....where? Presumably, our often crying cannot teach his kids to tend to their own devices who loves his dancing shoes and authentic soda pop is going to charge the gate bravely as he can and five seconds later its over. What was the wife's plan, to leave through the door where we had the last stand of the 0.300 - its blocked. Shelter in Place in the closet? Try to out-scream her husband? Window? What about the kid(s), she know what to do?

I'm guessing Modern Man lives in a nice little Roman Town, with a wall, and gates, trained professional security. Safe enough to walk around outside half naked just to pick up a subscription to his own newspaper job. But, if taking uberman at his word that the plan is to buy time for escape, has that escape been practiced? If not a gun, then a baseball bat or pepper spray, an everyday item which could be used in a pinch?

We at our fort have an escape plan (fire) and shelter plan (tornado) and intruder plane we practice and adjust, usually at the time changes. Big changes as a child grows from a crib to being able to open a window and climb out unassisted.

At the fire house it is what we call a low frequency high risk scenario, and they are inherently difficult to train for and injuries are usually grievous. They say practice as best you can, even if its sitting around the game table with an adult beverage, like a cup of coffee.

Posted by swksvolFF 2015-10-03 16:49|| 2015-10-03 16:49|| Front Page Top

#5 swksvolFF: The only thing you can do is to plan, practice and hope that when the time comes to defend yourself against the barbarian, you can find your balls for real.

Posted by badanov 2015-10-03 18:28|| http://www.chriscovert.net 2015-10-03 18:28|| Front Page Top

#6 badanov, We have something going on out thisaways here at the moment, somewhere in between being armed in the house and rifle still in the case. Kids and I spent majority of the day in the basement.

Balls are so low I had to put a third shoe on. May stop by the club if I hear something better than the bamboo telegraph.

Posted by swksvolFF 2015-10-03 18:54|| 2015-10-03 18:54|| Front Page Top

#7 $700 for an AR-10? That sounds like a great price. Having used both 5.56 and 7.62, if I don't have to lug the ammo (far) seems a no brainier. Is DPMS decent?

Posted by Whiskey Mike 2015-10-03 20:00|| 2015-10-03 20:00|| Front Page Top

#8 Yes, DPMS is an above average, respectable AR frame.

DPMS link.

Posted by Besoeker 2015-10-03 20:28|| 2015-10-03 20:28|| Front Page Top

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