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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Tennessee Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey says 'fellow Christians' should arm themselves
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 10/03/2015 12:59 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I met him and talked awhile about 9 years ago. Didn't like him but I gotta agree.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/03/2015 17:39 Comments || Top||


Officer suspended, refused to shoot skunk that bit child
A police officer in East Tennessee was suspended for three days for refusing to shoot a skunk that had bitten a child.

The Kingsport Times-News reports that Mount Carmel police Officer David Dean violated department policy July 27 when he gave his service weapon to fire Chief Ryan Christian, who killed the skunk so it could be tested for rabies.

Dean, Christian and animal control officer Eddie Seabolt responded to a report of a 6-year-old child who was bitten by the animal. Seabolt says it was Dean's responsibility to kill the skunk. Mount Carmel prohibits animal control officers from euthanizing animals.

In a written statement, Dean said he told Seabolt it's difficult for him to shoot animals unless they're trying to eat him.

The skunk didn't test positive for rabies.
Posted by: RJ45ACP || 10/03/2015 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It did however test positive for lead.
Posted by: Steven || 10/03/2015 2:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Officer David Dean
Wasn't a man to be mean.
He wouldn't shoot even a skunk
Until it had chewed off a chunk.
Posted by: Shuting Gurly-Brown7975 || 10/03/2015 3:32 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm not surprised. I was pulled over by a Mt. Carmel police officer 5 years ago for not moving to the left-hand lane when I saw he and another officer had pulled over a car in the right-hand lane. I asked if he say the 18 wheeler beside me in the left lane. He said it didn't matter (I drive a Smart Car)that it was a law in all 51 states to get in the left lane when a police car has someone pulled over in the right lane. I the had to pinch myself when another 18 wheeler flew by in the right lane and blew his hat off, all the while thinking, "51 states?". I the told him I knew the law and it also staed that if a driver is unable to move to the left lane he/she should slow down and move as far left as possible. He mumbled a few words and told me to go on after retrieving his hat.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/03/2015 11:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Yeah well, but DeaconMan would you kill the skunk or take it home to a nice warm blanket?

Skunks make fine pets actually, especially if deglanded as it were.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/03/2015 11:41 Comments || Top||

#5  Had a skunk fall into a window well once. I discovered no gov. worker will go near a live skunk. Animal Control - No, Police No, Fire - No, animal rescue - No, Hwy Dept - No unless they are dead and squished on the road - No No No No.
They all turn to wimps with skunks.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/03/2015 12:04 Comments || Top||

#6  Deacon, did the police officer ask you to identify yourself?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/03/2015 13:06 Comments || Top||

#7  Not this time.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/03/2015 13:08 Comments || Top||

#8  You should know a Smart Car is rare in his (red)neck part of the state.

Jus' sayin'
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 10/03/2015 13:11 Comments || Top||

#9  Just a word of advice. Don't go gunning for skunk in your bare feet on a gravel driveway.
Posted by: Sven the pelter || 10/03/2015 16:52 Comments || Top||

#10  Don't care what it is, it bites in anger/aggression all bets are off.

Friend almost stepped on one last night in my backyard. They had a quiet acknowledgement of each other and each politely went their way. Fortunately his blue heeler was insider, and who would have definitely drew first tomato juice.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/03/2015 17:39 Comments || Top||

#11  My dog Melvin tried to play with one. Baking soda, Dawn, and hydrogen peroxide pretty much took the smell out. Had to throw his leather collar away.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/03/2015 17:44 Comments || Top||

#12  I put one through a swather once, it ruined my afternoon.
Posted by: Classer || 10/03/2015 20:03 Comments || Top||


-Land of the Free
This Week In Guns, October 3rd, 2015


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

It has been 30 hours and we know pretty much what we are ever going to find out, save for the type of guns used in the Umqua Community College massacre.

ISIS bad guys say it was them what dunit and their liberals allies want to blame the gun and the NRA.

One of the rifles used , apparently was the Ruger 10/22 rifle, probably because ammunition at as low as .06 per round, is cheap. But one of the most effective weapons used, save for an actual firearm was one lone individual who refused to go into that good night on his knees. I write a lot about firearms here and post a lot on Facebook about guns as well, but none of that matters without the will to use that kind of power. In the absence of a firearm, one individual decided to use some kind of force.

President Obama decided to lecture the planet about firearms and gun control which went over well with his supporters, and not many more. Golden Throats such as Bill O'Reilly, I assume under some pressure from his staff went a half bridge too far in talking about gun control, but the Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlin in Oregon said more gun control would not have prevented the massacre. Recall that Oregon passed a universal background check law last spring among a lot of praise and huzzahs, and for all that effort, someone got a gun and killed a number of unarmed individuals.

Left out of the ginned up national outrage against guns was another 50 people shot in Chicago last week end, this also in a city with draconian gun control laws.

Speaking of protection for the AK crowd, Apex Gun Parts is selling 75 round drums for the Romak AK-47, and some Picatinney shrouds for Saiga rifles.

For the AR crowd, you can read about the different gas systems for the ARs.

One of the exemplars Obama held up as to gun control was Australia. Yeah, about that.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Prices for pistol ammunition were mostly unchanged while rifle ammunition prices were mostly lower.

Prices for used pistols were higher across the board while prices for used rifles were mixed.

New Lows:

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Pennsylvania: DPMS: $700
.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Florida: Rock River LAR8 Operator: $600
.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Florida: DPMS: $380

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Quality Made Cartridges, Store Brand, RNL, Reloads, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Quality Made Cartridges, Store Brand, RNL, Reloads, .25 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each After Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Freedom Munitions, Store brand, FMJ, Reloads, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ammo Mart, Store Brand, RNFP, Reloads, .21 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each After Unchanged (5 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Bud's Gun Shop, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Cased, .17 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Rush Creek Ammo, Store Brand, FMJ, Reloads, .16 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2015)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .28 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Surplus Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .27 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (3Q, 2015)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Wolf Polyformance, steel cased, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Wolf Polyformance, steel cased, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks))

.308 NATO 150 grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (3Q, 2015)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition Supply Company, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .39 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Cheaper Than Dirt!, Tulammo, Steel Cased, FMJ, .36 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (8 Weeks))

7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition Depot, Wolf WPA, steel case, FMJ, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf WPA, steel case, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (1Q 2015))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds (10 Box Limit): Natchez Shooters Supplies, Federal Champon, RNL .06 per round
Cheapest Bulk (2 Box Limit), 500 rounds: Target Sports USA, Aguila Superextra, RNL, .08 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $476 Last Week Avg: $515 (-) ($616 (25 Weeks), $476 (CA: $486 (9 Weeks)))
California (265, 271): Smith & Wesson M&P 15 Sport: $500 ($650 (35 Weeks), $400 (4 Weeks))
Texas (306, 328): Anderson Carbine: $550 ($700 (30 Weeks), $350 (25 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (184, 177): Smith & Wesson M&P 15 Sport: $450 ($700 (24 Weeks), $300 (12 Weeks))
Virginia (206, 205): DPMS (w/scope): $500 ($750 (30 Weeks), $500 (34 Weeks))
Florida (399, 392): DPMS: $380 ($650 (15 Weeks), $380 (CA: $450 (48 Weeks)))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $840 Last Week Avg: $829 (+) ($1,359 (23 Weeks), $829 (2 Weeks))
California (50, 50): Bushmaster Orc: $1,150 ($1,700 (38 Weeks), $850 (8 Weeks))
Texas (59, 66): DPMS: $800 ($1,500 (44 Weeks), $800 (8 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (37, 38): DPMS: $700 ($1,500 (30 Weeks), $700 (CA: $800 (37 Weeks)))
Virginia (52, 54): Palmetto State Armory: $950 ($1,650 (14 Weeks), $900 (44 Weeks))
Florida (78, 84): Rock River LAR8 Operator: $600 ($1,500 (45 Weeks), $600 (CA: $700 (6 Weeks)))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $520 Last Week Avg: $507 (+) ($626 (26 Weeks), $450 (13 Weeks))
California (44, 44): Saiga: $550 ($700 (29 Weeks), $320 (40 Weeks))
Texas (74, 75): Saiga: $600 ($750 (28 Weeks), $350 (46 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (46, 48): Century RAS-47: $400 ($750 (35 Weeks), $375 (20 Weeks))
Virginia (43, 42): I.O: $500 ($625 (31 Weeks), $350 (33 Weeks))
Florida (120, 111): Romak: $550 ($650 (24 Weeks), $300 (44 Weeks))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $360 Last Week Avg: $365 (-) ($489 (32 Weeks), $296 (14 Weeks))
California (8, 9): Marlin: $300 ($500 (7 Weeks), $180 (14 Weeks))
Texas (17, 20): Marlin: $425 ($550 (33 Weeks), $300 (38 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (16, 16): Mossberg 464 SPX: $325 ($450 (34 Weeks), $250 (39 Weeks))
Virginia (11, 11): Mossberg 464 SPX: $400 ($450 (18 Weeks), $350 (36 Weeks))
Florida (19, 16): Mossberg 464 SPX: $350 ($500 (30 Weeks), $250 (16 Weeks))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $405 Last Week Avg: $385 (+) ($450 (32 Weeks), $350 (6 Weeks))
California (164, 168): Taurus 1911: $425 ($600 (32 Weeks), $300 (10 Weeks))
Texas (234, 240): American Tactical Imports: $450 ($600 (43 Weeks), $325 (6 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (143, 150): Auto Ordnance: $350 ($550 (22 Weeks), $300 (16 Weeks))
Virginia (130, 124): Rock Island Armory: $350 ($550 (24 Weeks), $250 (41 Weeks))
Florida (369, 373): Rock Island Armory: $450 ($475 (15 Weeks), $250 (30 Weeks))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $291 Last Week Avg: $285 (+) ($336 (27 Weeks), $268 (5 Weeks))
California (152, 161): Sig Sauer SP2022: $400 ($450 (32 Weeks), $250 (37 Weeks))
Texas (268, 278): Hi Point: $225 ($355 (31 Weeks), $200 (4 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (215, 209): Diamondback FS9: $250 ($350 (49 Weeks), $200 (11 Weeks))
Virginia (182, 173): Smith & Wesson SW9VS: $299 ($400 (25 Weeks), $250 (11 Weeks))
Florida (431, 408): Beretta Egyptian M1951: $280 ($375 (41 Weeks), $220 (4 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $350 Last Week Avg: $348 (+) ($368 (21 Weeks), $300 (47 Weeks))
California (92, 95): Smith & Wesson SW40VE: $350 ($425 (6 Weeks)), $250 (38 Weeks))
Texas (106, 113): Smith & Wesson SW40VE: $300 ($425 (42 Weeks), $275 (24 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (90, 83): Kahr CW40: $350 ($350 (13 Weeks), $250 (33 Weeks))
Virginia (94, 82): Glock 23: $400 ($450 (21 Weeks), $275 (37 Weeks))
Florida (173, 171): Ruger P94: $350 ($400 (31 Weeks), $200 (6 Weeks))

Used Gun of the Week: (Ohio)

Enfield P14 Rifle Chambered in .303 British

Chris Covert writes for Rantburg.com. He can be reached at grurkka@gmail.com and on Twitter
Posted by: badanov || 10/03/2015 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The consensus out here is the ban wagon was wheeled out quick and hard so the topic is, again, about banning all firearms, a hot topic to hash over and over - and not talk about the murderer and his intentions. Or background.

Thank you for the O'really? link. Have not listened to him for years now, but know people do.

Also saw the re-publish at huffer of shawn the van driver - not sure where to start on that, though I'm sure it had been covered. The papers, your papers please and the At The Stroke of a Pen is the obvious, but it was the 40 hours of training (80 for CC) which shows his ass.

First, who can take a week bloc off from work except the affluent or well connected? Its nice that when he was in the service, he was paid to instruct people being paid to take instruction while somebody else paid for the ammo, electricity, coffee, toilet paper, food, weapons, and so forth. His background as perspective would eliminate nearly everyone from the choice of having a firearm - well except for criminals. And besides, do you take the training first then get your ticket, but you need your firearm to take the class - unless the class is all classwork and no range time, which the class is a total failure without range time. I don't care what he was, he is now somebody who feels they made it, and doesn't want anybody else to be able to make it. Fuck him.

I'm going to take a second to plug Mom and Pop's. If you are considering, or brand new, your Mom and Pop stores are a great resource of information (the ones I have been to at least) they like what they are doing, and people who like what they do talk to them. They are not bound by the big box constraints (on one hand, the clerks who are just register monkeys and act like they couldn't shut the water off to an overflowing toilet, and the others who are so swamped with customers that they simply cannot give you personal consulting time). Yes, you may pay an extra couple dollars but the knowledge those small shop owners possess is worth that, especially if you build that relationship by purchasing ammo and accessories from them. They will have suggestions, they will know which ranges are good or bad, probably even give a basic maintenance procedure on your new purchase.

But all that is useless unless you have the will to defend yours. I have no proven suggestions for that, as I have not had to, other than thinking about and giving myself permission that nobody will freely fuck with mine. Call it a long, personal prayer for guidance and strength, that I have more love and compassion for mine than the barbarian, that it is my instruction to care for mine first and foremost, and to do otherwise is immoral.

It is that last point where professional and volunteer responders get into a very personal entanglement. And if something is happening to you or yours, the barbarian made the first move, and by definition you are the first responder. I tugged on that knot by choosing that I may not win, but I will not lose. Suggestions?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/03/2015 11:59 Comments || Top||

#2  $18-$19 trillion national debt and Obama goes nuts over a school shooting where the security guard was unarmed? I call squirrel.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/03/2015 13:17 Comments || Top||

#3  Tyrannosquirrelus? Dammit, Mr. T ate Dave Barry stole my hapax.
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 || 10/03/2015 15:37 Comments || Top||

#4  When that barbarian shot up those nice people in the church, everything down to the size of his underwear was being reported faster than you could say shit stain. This is remarkably quiet coupled with the grabbers pressing the emergency bullshit release button.

I hate the concept of shelter in place. Hate it. Would you shelter in place if it were a fire.

Nearly every structure and vehicle built has a common design - how to get out if there is a fire. I'd say use your head. I'm sure a mass panic creates a number of headaches for the LEOs, and you sure do not want to be confused with the bad guy(s), as well as the many dangers of a stampede. May just have to go caveman.

Speaking of which, still chuckling at Modern Man. I realize that article is really a sad man's public confession (writing about himself in the 3rd person as a model male figure - sort of a reverse side of Gollum, no?) as is lower fruit than a strawberry for anyone who lives outside a cocktail party. Taking a look at this brave man who sleeps closer to the door to hold off the raider while the wife makes her escape....where? Presumably, our often crying cannot teach his kids to tend to their own devices who loves his dancing shoes and authentic soda pop is going to charge the gate bravely as he can and five seconds later its over. What was the wife's plan, to leave through the door where we had the last stand of the 0.300 - its blocked. Shelter in Place in the closet? Try to out-scream her husband? Window? What about the kid(s), she know what to do?

I'm guessing Modern Man lives in a nice little Roman Town, with a wall, and gates, trained professional security. Safe enough to walk around outside half naked just to pick up a subscription to his own newspaper job. But, if taking uberman at his word that the plan is to buy time for escape, has that escape been practiced? If not a gun, then a baseball bat or pepper spray, an everyday item which could be used in a pinch?

We at our fort have an escape plan (fire) and shelter plan (tornado) and intruder plane we practice and adjust, usually at the time changes. Big changes as a child grows from a crib to being able to open a window and climb out unassisted.

At the fire house it is what we call a low frequency high risk scenario, and they are inherently difficult to train for and injuries are usually grievous. They say practice as best you can, even if its sitting around the game table with an adult beverage, like a cup of coffee.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/03/2015 16:49 Comments || Top||

#5  swksvolFF: The only thing you can do is to plan, practice and hope that when the time comes to defend yourself against the barbarian, you can find your balls for real.
Posted by: badanov || 10/03/2015 18:28 Comments || Top||

#6  badanov, We have something going on out thisaways here at the moment, somewhere in between being armed in the house and rifle still in the case. Kids and I spent majority of the day in the basement.

Balls are so low I had to put a third shoe on. May stop by the club if I hear something better than the bamboo telegraph.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/03/2015 18:54 Comments || Top||

#7  $700 for an AR-10? That sounds like a great price. Having used both 5.56 and 7.62, if I don't have to lug the ammo (far) seems a no brainier. Is DPMS decent?
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 10/03/2015 20:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Yes, DPMS is an above average, respectable AR frame.

DPMS link.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/03/2015 20:28 Comments || Top||


Britain
200 Migrants storm Eurotunnel from Calais trying to get to Britain
Posted by: anon1 || 10/03/2015 13:29 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  an activist group with the surprisingly honest name *No Borders* thought to have been involved

they are not *left* or *progressive* they are just internationalists, they hate the nation state and think borders of any kind are bad.

This does not make them *progressive* they could not care less if the newcomers are gender-segregating homophobic religious fascists

Posted by: anon1 || 10/03/2015 13:33 Comments || Top||

#2  apologies for repeated story post - didnt see the other one on the list when i looked (must be going blind). This one mentions the *no borders* group at any rate which i thought interesting
Posted by: anon1 || 10/03/2015 13:35 Comments || Top||

#3  I seem to recall reading that when Britain agreed to build the chunnel that its use as an invasion route was considered and that an option was put in place to flood it from the British side if an invasion was imminent.
Posted by: Sven the pelter || 10/03/2015 15:56 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
UN chief pledges humanitarian support to NKorea
[AA.TR] United Nations leader Ban Ki-moon reaffirms humanitarian aid to North Korea while South Korean parliamentary report shows North needs support to cut high infant mortality
Posted by: Fred || 10/03/2015 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  That is just stupid.

"Quid pro-quo, Mr. Powers."
Posted by: Sven the pelter || 10/03/2015 16:18 Comments || Top||


U.S. Navy will patrol near man-made islands in South China Sea
Brief tease from this long article in Foreign Policy magazine. If you've been following the issue you know most of what is in the article already. If not it's a decent enough primer.
The United States is poised to send naval ships and aircraft to the South China Sea in a challenge to Beijing’s territorial claims to its rapidly-built artificial islands, U.S. officials told Foreign Policy.

The move toward a somewhat more muscular stance follows talks between Chinese President Xi Jinping and U.S. President Barack Obama in Washington last month, which fell far short of a breakthrough over how territorial disputes should be settled in the strategic South China Sea.

A final decision has not been made. But the Obama administration is heavily leaning toward using a show of military might after Chinese opposition ended diplomatic efforts to halt land reclamation and the construction of military outposts in the waterway. The timing and details of the patrols — which would be designed to uphold principles of freedom of navigation in international waters — are still being worked out, Obama administration and Pentagon officials said.

“It’s not a question of if, but when,” said a Defense Department official.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/03/2015 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Again, POTUS Obama has repor ordered the USN NOT to approach the 12-mile restriction around China's man-made sialnds in the SCS, + has formally turned PH President Aquino's request for US$300.0Milyuhn in vital MilAid for the PH Armed Forces, a move which many Perts argue has effectively guaranteed that the Manila will NOT be able to defend its interests in the SCS agz China.

IFF TRUE, CHINA W-I-L-L CONTROL THE SCS, NOT "MIGHT" CONTROL THE SCS.

NOT GOOD FOR GUAM-WESTPAC + USN PEARL HARBOR BB USS "OKLAHOMA".

NOT GOOD FOR THE 2015 US STATE OF OKLAHOMA EITHER VEE FRACKING-BLAMED LOCAL EARTHQUAKES = "FRACK-QUAKES".
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/03/2015 0:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Unless the Chinese object in tangible terms?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/03/2015 3:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Setup big pipe's that suck sand away from the toy islands.
Posted by: Sven the pelter || 10/03/2015 16:12 Comments || Top||


Economy
Jobs Report Shows Economy Unexpectedly Stumbling
"The job report was unambiguously soft," said Mark Zandi, chief economist for the forecaster Moody's Analytics. "Not only was the monthly job gain light, but there were surprising downward revisions to gains in previous months. Hours worked also fell, labor force participation declined, and wage growth stagnated."

September hiring fell well short of consensus expectations, and previous economic growth was weaker than thought, new Labor Department statistics say in a dismal monthly report that paints a picture of an economy in downshift mode.
We need more hoper-n-change!

Friday's job report for September said not only that hiring weakened but also that hours worked fell, the labor participation rate declined, and wage growth stagnated.
Employers added a disappointing 142,000 jobs in September, the Labor Department said Friday, and added just 136,000 jobs in August, a revision of an earlier estimate of 173,000.
You can forecast growth all you like, but the statistics will - if honestly reported - trump your rosy forecasts.

The unemployment rate held steady at 5.1 percent, but wage growth was flat for the month, meaning workers weren't taking home more.

In afternoon comments to the media, President Barack Obama said a slowing global economy was creating headwinds, and he called on Congress to pass a budget that eases up on austerity to stimulate more economic growth.

Congress this week passed a measure to keep the government funded just through Dec. 11, and the Treasury Department said Thursday that on Nov. 5 it will run out of extraordinary measures it has been using to pay bills and keep under a debt ceiling. After that point, the government might have to selectively default on some debt, a move sure to panic financial markets.

"This is not the way the United States should be operating," Obama said Friday, urging Congress to avoid another "manufactured crisis" that hits hiring and consumer sentiment.
Yeah, it's his job to manufacture crises.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/03/2015 11:35 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let's see, exporting jobs through tax stupidity, wide open markets to imports, shutting down coal, shutting down pipelines, carbon bull.... nah nothing there should effect jobs...

Hell they even moved the Oreo's factory from Chicago's Mexican slums to Mexico as illegal alien indentured servants from Mexico are still more expensive to employ than Mexican workers in Mexico.

Oh I left off poring billions into muslim refugees and liberation fronts.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/03/2015 12:10 Comments || Top||

#2  What recovery? Employment has been going down nearly every month Obama has been President. The US has hit another new generational jobs low at 62.4%.


BLS Labor Force Participation Rate
Posted by: Betty Hitler2611 || 10/03/2015 12:30 Comments || Top||

#3  Unexpectedly. You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/03/2015 13:16 Comments || Top||

#4  lowest since 1977, when I graduated HS
Posted by: Frank G || 10/03/2015 13:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Frank, I was just trying to start my own business in '77 but Jimmuh took the economy so far down the tubes in didn't work. Lucked out in '80 when I moved into computers but I don't see anything comparable coming along now.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/03/2015 16:06 Comments || Top||

#6  The "recovery," highly touted by the Obean administration, has always been bogus and one of rigged numbers.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/03/2015 18:38 Comments || Top||

#7  Graduated? Pictures or it didn't happen.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/03/2015 19:31 Comments || Top||


Europe
Eurotunnel services suspended as migrants storm tunnel
[The Telegraph] Eurotunnel services were suspended on Saturday after more than 200 migrants broke into its French terminal in a "massive and organised" assault.
The French authorities were attempting to contain the invasion and remove the migrants after the incident led to the suspension of all passengers and freight services through the tunnel.

A Eurotunnel spokesman described the latest incident at its Calais terminal as a "massive invasion and intrusion by a very large and co-ordinated group".

He added: "It's clearly an organised attack when it comes in such a large number; there are over 100 in this one group.
"They arrived together an in a well-organised manner, broke through the fences and all clearly knew where they were going. They are being gathered up by the police authorities."

Eurotunnel said train services were suspended for safety reasons after people were spotted on the tracks, but no passengers were trapped on trains as a result of the incident.

"While they are on the track we have, for safety reasons, to suspend the service. Once that's done we will be able to restart," said the spokesman, adding: "It's a very co-ordinated and well-managed process but it's a very large group of people and it's dark so it will have to be done very carefully."
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/03/2015 04:08 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There has to be a video to blame. Perhaps we'll learn more tomorrow from Susan Rice on the Talks.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/03/2015 10:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Seems to me that Casey Jones should just be given the High ball; at speed the nose of the train would act like a Union Pacific V plow in the mountains and easily clear the tracks...
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/03/2015 10:42 Comments || Top||

#3  They are using flash mobs to loot stores, this would be more of the same.
Posted by: Grunter || 10/03/2015 15:41 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Shahrukh Jatoi enjoying amenities at death cell in Karachi jail
[DAWN] KARACHI: Death row inmate Shahrukh Jatoi, convicted in the infamous Shahzeb Khan murder case, is reportedly enjoying lavish perks in Bloody Karachi
...formerly the capital of Pakistain, now merely its most important port and financial center. It is among the largest cities in the world, with a population of 18 million, most of whom hate each other and many of whom are armed and dangerous...
's central jail, DawnNews reported on Friday.

During the DawnNews programme, titled "Exposed", the anchor shared a video in which Jatoi was reportedly shown enjoying lavish facilities in his death cell, which is a clear violation of jail rules and procedures.

The reported amenities provided to Jatoi in his jail cell include TV, indoor gaming, air conditioner and other luxury items.

When contacted to comment on the video, IG Prisons Sindh Nusrat Mangan said that since he was not provided with the video beforehand and he has not seen it, he cannot comment on the authenticity of the footage.

Jatoi is reportedly enjoying B-category treatment at Karachi jail, despite not being entitled to one.

The IG Prisons said that he will personally look into the matter and "if any irregularities are being committed by jail administration", he will take action against them.

In the video it is shown that police personnel are deployed at the jail cell where Jatoi is held captive, however, the coppers are providing services to Jatoi rather than keeping an eye on him.

Former chief justice of Pakistain Justice (retd) Saeed uz Zaman Siddiqui, while talking to DawnNews said that according to jail manual an inmate on death row cannot be given A or B category facilities.

He went on to say that Supreme Court can take suo motu
...a legal term, from the Latin. Roughly translated it means I saw what you did, you bastard...
notice on the amenities reportedly provided to Shahruk Jatoi.

Siddiqui further said that jail authorities don't have the right to extend any sort of perks or facilities to the inmates.

Twenty-year-old Shahzeb Khan was bumped off on the night of December 24, 2012, when he was returning home along with his sister after attending a wedding.

Shahzeb, son of a DSP, was murdered reportedly after he had an altercation with one of the suspects' servant who had allegedly given verbal threats to the victim's sister.

Jatoi, Siraj Talpur, his younger brother Sajjad Talpur and their house servant Ghulam Murtaza Lashari were charged with killing Shahzeb in the city's Defence Housing Authority (DHA).

The case had attracted much media attention after the Supreme Court took a suo motu notice of the murder.
Posted by: Fred || 10/03/2015 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Science & Technology
MASSIVE GLOBAL COOLING process discovered as Paris climate deal looms
h/t Jerry Pournelle
As world leaders get ready to head to Paris for the latest pact on cutting CO2 emissions, it has emerged that there isn't as much urgency about the matter as had been thought.

A team of top-level atmospheric chemistry boffins from France and Germany say they have identified a new process by which vast amounts of volatile organic compounds (VOCs) are emitted into the atmosphere from the sea - a process which was unknown until now, meaning that existing climate models do not take account of it.

The effect of VOCs in the air is to cool the climate down, and thus climate models used today predict more warming than can actually be expected. Indeed, global temperatures have actually been stable for more than fifteen years, a circumstance which was not predicted by climate models and which climate science is still struggling to assmilate.

In essence, the new research shows that a key VOC, isoprene, is not only produced by living organisms (for instance plants and trees on land and plankton in the sea) as had previously been assumed. It is also produced in the "microlayer" at the top of the ocean by the action of sunlight on floating chemicals - no life being necessary. And it is produced in this way in very large amounts.
Betcha it won't stop new "cutting CO2 emissions" accords
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/03/2015 04:02 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A team of top-level atmospheric chemistry boffins from France and Germany say they have identified a new process

Winter?
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/03/2015 11:03 Comments || Top||

#2  people are stupid

centuries ago we had the tulip mania
we have had the tech bubble, the housing bubble, the Y2K scare....

large numbers of people are stupid. Small numbers of clever and ruthless people manipulate circumstance to fleece the dumb and disempowered.

Now there is an industry to support - green energy consultants, intellectuals, think tanks, solar panel manufacturers in china, and so on.

This ensures your taxes will be paying for man made global warming forever, even though it is BS and always has been
Posted by: anon1 || 10/03/2015 14:31 Comments || Top||

#3  Global warming is a bad joke. Occasionally worth a chuckle, but that's about it.

Global cooling, on the other hand, is a scary prospect. Wars, famine and pestilence. Worse if the left is running things.
Posted by: Iblis || 10/03/2015 15:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Global warming is a bad joke. Occasionally worth a chuckle, but that's about it.

Nothing these people do is a joke---not if you have to share a planet with them.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/03/2015 15:38 Comments || Top||

#5  large numbers of people are stupid

One snowflake alone is a dummy.
Imagine when millions get chummy:
The lightweight and flighty
Flow, massive and mighty,
A frozen rock-crushing tsunami!
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 || 10/03/2015 15:48 Comments || Top||

#6  "Reality doesn't fit the models notbecause we are frauds! Its because of this new 'cooling process'. Once we account for that, and bludgeon the data a lot more to fit our model, the hockey stick will be as good as new!"
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/03/2015 16:01 Comments || Top||

#7  With apologies to...

A tickertape blizzard, confetti,
Some hairs from Bach's wig, and a yeti...
Then stretti were streaming,
And bells, something steaming:
"You're too late for breakfast, Canetti!"

By lunchtime, Elias was ready.
To wrestle until he was sweaty:
"The strands are so many!
Why can't I catch any?
These noodles are Archie; I'm Betty."

At dinner, now peckish and petty,
Lamenting, a little unsteady,
"How can the whole bowlfull
Elude me? I'm doleful,
Beholding the might of spaghetti."
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220 || 10/03/2015 16:01 Comments || Top||

#8  Atmospheric carbon dioxide reaches 400 parts per million concentration. Whippy-do-da.

Plants everywhere are thanking us.

On the serious side, Dr. Roy Spencer has been arguing for quite a while that negative feedback loops (such as the one mentioned in the article) have not been included in the one-sided climate models that back the global warministas agenda.

Time is running out for the warministas. You can't keep science in check forever.

I was puzzled by the pope's support for the warminista's agenda until I remembered that what global warming is really about is wealth distribution from the western industrialized first world to the poor third world. I don't think that Jesus would support fraud as valid means to the end of helping the poor. Just one man's opinion.
Posted by: Sven the pelter || 10/03/2015 16:09 Comments || Top||

#9  I googled that 400 ppm on co2. The reading was taken atop Mauna Loa volcano in Hawaii. Guess what? Volcanoes spew CO2.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/03/2015 17:38 Comments || Top||

#10  One medium volcanic eruption spews more CO2, CO, Nitrous Oxide, particulates, goo and crap into the air than all of the camp fires, coal fires, power plants, automobiles, brush fires, wars, and airplanes that have ever occurred since the beginning of time. What we do to the atmosphere is not even a decimal point on what a volcano can and does to the environment multiple times a year. We could cut our CO2 emissions to zero and the number would stay around 350 to 400 ppb forever because of volcanos, people, algae in the ocean, and natural flora and fauna.

Posted by: Bill Clinton || 10/03/2015 17:56 Comments || Top||


Government
Hunting Klingons
h/t Instapundit
As the Cold War drew to a close with the fall of the Berlin Wall in November 1989, those at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, finally hoped to resolve many long-standing puzzles.

The most important of which was how officers in the field under diplomatic and deep cover stationed across the globe were readily identified by the KGB. As a consequence, covert operations had to be aborted as local agents were pinpointed and CIA personnel compromised or, indeed, had their lives thrown into jeopardy.

The problem dated from the mid-'70s, the very time that James Angleton, the paranoid head of agency counterintelligence, was at last ushered out of office, to the relief of conscientious officers hitherto cast under a dark cloud of suspicion, their promotion delayed or, worse still, denied, and in some cases entire careers wrecked.

But could Angleton have been right? Some consistently maintained so, notably the late Bruce Bagley. Their argument was simple. How could these disasters have happened with such regularity if the agency had not been penetrated by Soviet moles?

The problem with this line of thought was that it did not so much overestimate CIA security as underestimate the brainpower of their Russian counterparts.

A name soon emerged from the KGB undergrowth: that of Yuri Totrov, a veritable legend who soon became known with grim humor as the shadow director of personnel at CIA.

The Cold War over, a senior and very experienced officer was dispatched to Japan to seek out Totrov and offer him a vast sum of money for his "memoirs." Totrov's retort was typically blunt. "Have you not read what is on my file at Langley? It says, 'Not to be Pitched.'"

So how, exactly, did Totrov reconstitute CIA personnel listings without access to the files themselves or those who put them together?

...The difference between Totrov and his fellow citizens was that whereas others at home and abroad would assume the Soviet Union was somehow unique, he applied his understanding of his own society to a society that on the surface seemed unique, but which, in respect of how government worked, was not in fact that much different: the United States.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/03/2015 04:25 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ....but which, in respect of how government worked, was not in fact that much different: the United States.

The above must certainly be the absolute truism of the month.

As spy hunting goes, checking the comings and goings of people from an embassy is always a good place to start. However, espionage is not limited to collection and reporting. Journalists, academia, and the media are also potential sources.

Family backgrounds are of vital importance as well. The sons of plumbers, preachers, and policemen oftentimes follow in similar footsteps.

Posted by: Besoeker || 10/03/2015 5:14 Comments || Top||

#2  How could these disasters have happened with such regularity if the agency had not been penetrated by Soviet moles?

How could so many Obama programs and initiatives fail unless there were counter revolutionary saboteurs?

Like, maybe Snowflake, the alternative is that you're not as smart as you think you are.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/03/2015 9:24 Comments || Top||

#3  The above must certainly be the absolute truism of the month.

the alternative is that you're not as smart as you think you are.

Two comments, two laser beams on the root of the issue. Why I read the 'burg.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/03/2015 9:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Went to a Lit/Lat church once in Chicago for a wedding. In it's basement it had a hall of honor for it's members who had fallen working for the CIA. It was a long hall.

So if I was a KGB a good first test would be ... was the guy ever near that church?
Posted by: 3dc || 10/03/2015 11:59 Comments || Top||



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