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2016-03-23 Home Front: WoT
Yes, America, it's war. Here's how we can stop losing and start winning
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Posted by Besoeker 2016-03-23 08:40|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 So we work with moderate Muslims. After we have those two on our side, how does that help?
Posted by Rob Crawford 2016-03-23 08:49||   2016-03-23 08:49|| Front Page Top

#2 Shut down our borders to illegal immigration. Limit legal immigration to cooperating countries in the fight.
Posted by Airandee 2016-03-23 08:57||   2016-03-23 08:57|| Front Page Top

#3 Are we voting?
Stop private offshore cash flow.
The rest will follow.
Posted by Wardoof 2016-03-23 09:04||   2016-03-23 09:04|| Front Page Top

#4 Provide initiatives which promote human rights, the democratic process, education, agriculture, cultural exchanges, financial assistance, clean water, nation building and the like.
Posted by Besoeker 2016-03-23 09:08||   2016-03-23 09:08|| Front Page Top

#5 I don't see powerpoint presentations on that list.

And finally, a military component which does not, repeat does not, require thousands of American combat forces, but rather gives our allies every inducement and all the arm twisting necessary so they put their own boots on the ground. And which supplies them with whatever they need to do the job

Absurd.
Posted by swksvolFF 2016-03-23 09:28||   2016-03-23 09:28|| Front Page Top

#6 In August 1988 Al Qaeda was formed in Afghanistan and its members then declared war on the West. A decade later AQ and its satraps met in Afghanistan and specifically declared war on the USA. In effect, for more than a quarter-century dedicated Islamists have been at war with us while our political leaders and the catamites that inhabit Foggy Bottom have dithered and refused to acknowledge that we are at war with a committed enemy.
Posted by Skunky Ulomoling4702 2016-03-23 09:44||   2016-03-23 09:44|| Front Page Top

#7 I don't give one single fuck about "moderate Muslims" and I'm more than a little tired of having other people pretend that they are somehow magically part of the solution.
Posted by Crusader 2016-03-23 10:26||   2016-03-23 10:26|| Front Page Top

#8 1. Assassinate or arrest preachers that preach Jihad. Eventually you will see replacement preachers who find the more peaceful sections of the Quran to their liking.

2. Remove any tax-exempt status from Mosques and consider them under whatever tax laws cover political organizations. Tax the crap out of them.

3. Let the Saudi's know that the West is at a breaking point and Mecca is likely to be targeted if they don't stop funding Jihad-encouraging mosques around the world. If they ignore the threat carpet bomb the empty roads into Mecca and destroy the ports that service haj. If that message is ignored carry through with threats against Mecca or the Royals.
Posted by rjschwarz 2016-03-23 10:52||   2016-03-23 10:52|| Front Page Top

#9 Just as the politically incompetent lead to the rise of Trump, the same incompetent people are going to result in the rise of Jacksonian solutions for problems like this.

Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.
Posted by Procopius2k 2016-03-23 10:55||   2016-03-23 10:55|| Front Page Top

#10 That whole boots on the ground thing is going to be interesting. Relatively few of the countries in the region are into that. Egypt is pretty good about putting its army to work, the Kurds will fight to the death, and Saudi-controlled Arabia just demonstrated that it could get something done in Yemen. But Iraq, Afghanistan, Tunisia, Lebanon, and so on just don't have the ability, martial ardor, and willingness to come together to defend flag and country.

And let's not even mention first world countries that have no excuse, like Germany, Belgium and Italy. If Belgium won't fight Islamic terror, why should we expect the Libyans to do so?

So the notion that we'll give our allies 'every inducement' to fight on their own against terrorism is likely to come up short.
Posted by Steve White 2016-03-23 11:03||   2016-03-23 11:03|| Front Page Top

#11 We should plan our answer to things like this via this adage, "What would the Romans do?"
Posted by Silentbrick 2016-03-23 11:04||   2016-03-23 11:04|| Front Page Top

#12 If we do have to use our military don't tie both its hands behind its back and hobble it's ankles with a stupid Rules Of Engagement.

Treat Terrorists and illegal combatants exactly as the Geneva Convention specifies. The get zero Geneva Convention protections. Same goes for countries which do not to follow the GC or sponsor organizations which do not follow the GC (I'm looking at you Iran!).
Posted by CrazyFool 2016-03-23 11:44||   2016-03-23 11:44|| Front Page Top

#13 Dunno about "flag and country" but they'll fight well enough for their tribe iff there's a clear threat to their tribe from Daesh. And that's a dynamic thing, and we're no good at the Great Game.
Posted by james  2016-03-23 11:53|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com  2016-03-23 11:53|| Front Page Top

#14 Shoot, the Temple of Janus would have its doors closed by now.

Well said Steve White.
Posted by swksvolFF 2016-03-23 12:38||   2016-03-23 12:38|| Front Page Top

#15 And let's not fool ourselves--not one damn thing of any substance will be done in response to this, just like not one damn thing of any substance was done after the Paris bombing. The "leaders" of the free world are pussies who care only that their checks they draw from the rest of us continue to clear the bank.
Posted by Crusader 2016-03-23 13:38||   2016-03-23 13:38|| Front Page Top

#16 Let slip a map that shows Kurdistan covering the trouble-areas. Then help the Kurds in any way possible to make that happen.
Posted by rjschwarz 2016-03-23 14:46||   2016-03-23 14:46|| Front Page Top

#17 Start at home. Put 50 calibers on the border and shoot anyone crossing illegally.

You must be new here, and so don't know that we do not say things that can be construed as a physical threat to Americans or American politicians.

-- trailing wife for the moderators at 4:33 p.m. ET


Obey the first Commandment.
Posted by Unelet Protector of the Sith2424 2016-03-23 16:00||   2016-03-23 16:00|| Front Page Top

#18 not one damn thing of any substance will be done in response to this

Of course not. That might help actually solve the problem which politicians are loath to do. Have you ever seen a problem or crisis which was actually solved by a politician lately? War on Drugs - no -worse off. War on Poverty - no -worse off. War on Terror - no -worse off. War on BLANK - no -worse off.
Posted by CrazyFool 2016-03-23 17:05||   2016-03-23 17:05|| Front Page Top

#19 Are the others optional? Oh pls, pls especially the one about coveting your neighbors ass? I've never stolen but I have coveted, fin I had a neighbor and Lord if he had a wife. But I've never cheated a partner, I'll trade bags with you anytime.
Posted by Shipman 2016-03-23 17:09||   2016-03-23 17:09|| Front Page Top

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