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2016-09-22 Science & Technology
Lord Christopher Monckton of Brenchley: Breaking news: Major climate science error exposed!
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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-09-22 06:11|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top

#1 I was involved in creating many models in my 30+ year software career and have always suspected this kind of thing.

Given the lying about data that has been documented and the bizarre collection techniques (put the thermometer over an AC in a parking lot, really) there were so many other issues that it never really bothered me since I certainly am not knowledgeable enough to understand it.

Until two things were done I will always remain a skeptic. 1) complete disclosure of ALL data and meta-data; 2) a release of ALL programming (aka models) with full documentation.. Then let anyone/everyone audit the results and discuss the findings.
Posted by AlanC 2016-09-22 07:46||   2016-09-22 07:46|| Front Page Top

#2 the error discussed is in the climate modeling, not in the temperature measurement (although the latter has numerous issues also)

Posted by lord garth 2016-09-22 08:47||   2016-09-22 08:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Any time you make a mathematical model of something, you are leaving out things that are assumed or hoped to be unimportant. In climate modeling, they sometimes leave out things that are hard to model, like cloud cover, only to find out that they are in fact important. Plus, the climate is not really just one system, but several (sun, atmosphere, oceans, land, clouds ) that interact in complex ways* that are not completely understood, and not well modeled.


*OK, the oceans, etc. don't affect the sun.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia  2016-09-22 09:31||   2016-09-22 09:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Still won't stop them from pushing this bullshit as hard as they can to control our lives.
Posted by DarthVader 2016-09-22 10:01||   2016-09-22 10:01|| Front Page Top

#5 First, assume a spherical cow...
Posted by Blackbeard Forkbeard8974 2016-09-22 11:15||   2016-09-22 11:15|| Front Page Top

#6 ...and if the cow's in California, regulate its farts...
Posted by Raj 2016-09-22 11:28||   2016-09-22 11:28|| Front Page Top

#7 Could be the first step, knowing teh whole fraud will collapse before long and giving everyone involved an "I was fooled too" angle to avoid any repurcussions.

If so the next fraud requiring big government fixes must be about ready to go.
Posted by rjschwarz 2016-09-22 18:09||   2016-09-22 18:09|| Front Page Top

#8 The left's drive to establish this bullshit is non-stop. I found myself in front of a "Reader's Digest" earlier today at an appointment. "Reader's Digest" once was a bastion of conservative thought (or it seemed that way to me).

Within its pages was a denunciation of Exxon for funding an opposition to "global warming".
Posted by Crusader 2016-09-22 23:34||   2016-09-22 23:34|| Front Page Top

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