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2019-01-24 -Land of the Free
Uncle Sam Wants Your DNA: The FBI's Diabolical Plan to Create a Nation of Suspects
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Posted by Besoeker 2019-01-24 04:06|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 Personally, I believe that birth certificates shouldn't be classified as legal documents till there's a verification of the DNA for anyone listed as father.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-01-24 07:06||   2019-01-24 07:06|| Front Page Top

#2 Personally, I consider the short tandem repeat test they use in legal DNA definition to be a farce, but then there's always somebody willing to testify that they're an expert, so there.
The FBI once had a guy testify that he was an expert in evaluating laundry lines that show up in jeans, and could identify a masked suspect on that basis. Got a conviction.
Posted by ed in texas 2019-01-24 08:36||   2019-01-24 08:36|| Front Page Top

#3 #1 LOL
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-01-24 08:38||   2019-01-24 08:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Thought-provoking. It could be argued that a DNA is similar to a BAC test; it is just collecting evidence. On the other hand it could be argued both are invasions of privacy.

Some years ago, as an accident reconstructionist, I was asked to obtain a DNA test in a double-fatality where both driver and passenger were "blind drunk." There was a question as to who was driving the car. They wanted me to try to establish that through concentrations of blood splatter using DNA. The attorney was trying to determine who to sue. I declined and said this was not in my wheelhouse and I didn't have the expertise. At the time, I didn't think too much about the ramifications beyond the capability of doing or not doing.

I worry that we might be heading towards living the reality of the Tom Cruise movie "Minority Report."
That is, where probable cause, due process, rights to privacy and the right to not self-incriminate get tossed.
Posted by JohnQC 2019-01-24 10:03||   2019-01-24 10:03|| Front Page Top

#5 Is it really all that much worse than a fingerprint?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-01-24 11:33||   2019-01-24 11:33|| Front Page Top

#6 Should regulate that DNA evidence should only be used to exclude people from suspicion.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2019-01-24 11:37||   2019-01-24 11:37|| Front Page Top

#7 TL;DR. Did they mention that we all leave samples of our DNA on our stool specimens, discarded paper cups, cigarette butts, used chewing gum, etc. etc. I sure wish someone would get one of Obama's old drinking cups for analysis. Might answer some questions.
Law enforcement and the judiciary being what they have become, we are all unindicted felons anyway. We are already a nation of suspects, regardless of the evidence or the "rule of law".
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2019-01-24 11:57||   2019-01-24 11:57|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm ambivalent.

The argument that the ability to more easily I.D. "bad guys" (and "gals") with a (very) high level of confidence is compelling. But Scientia potentia est, and I don't believe that the government is here to help me.

Definitions have become subject to flexibility and "context" as re-Tweeted and "liked" on FB. This is much more than annoying.

Not sorry I'll be "checking out" soon (enough).
Posted by Anomalous Sources 2019-01-24 21:27||   2019-01-24 21:27|| Front Page Top

#9 Plus the gov could develop perfect bugs to get just you. Designer targeted deniable diseases.
Posted by 3dc 2019-01-24 23:52||   2019-01-24 23:52|| Front Page Top

#10 Imagine if Obama/Hillary had access to Trump's DNA and just decided to quietly make him sick and die before the election. It's quiet believable after what we have currently seen with deep state and the FBI.
Posted by 3dc 2019-01-24 23:54||   2019-01-24 23:54|| Front Page Top

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