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2019-05-09 China-Japan-Koreas
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Posted by 3dc 2019-05-09 01:03|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [406 views ]  Top
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#1 "in a network we don’t have confidence in and is not backdoored by the #NSA" he said in a correction.

It's not that the Chinese are spying. We don't know that. But we do KNOW FOR A FACT that the NSA uses backdoored equipment to spy. Not even on our enemies - to spy on civilians and friends.
Posted by Herb McCoy 2019-05-09 02:49||   2019-05-09 02:49|| Front Page Top

#2 It's not that the Chinese are spying. We don't know that..

Earth to Herb...Earth to Herb...come in Herb....

Sorry Captain - it appears our signal cannot reach Planet McCoy.
Posted by Bangkok Billy 2019-05-09 06:54||   2019-05-09 06:54|| Front Page Top

#3 I think we've all been backdoored by the NSA.
Posted by Skidmark 2019-05-09 10:19||   2019-05-09 10:19|| Front Page Top

#4 Why not just use the magical portal arch system they copied from the middle east?
Posted by Omorong Black8889 2019-05-09 10:39||   2019-05-09 10:39|| Front Page Top

#5 #3 - you just never feel the digital hands on your shoulders
Posted by Frank G 2019-05-09 10:47||   2019-05-09 10:47|| Front Page Top

#6 Herb, I've been looking for a tin foil hat that looks good, wears well and wasn't Made in China. Know where I can get one?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-05-09 10:56||   2019-05-09 10:56|| Front Page Top

#7 It's not that the Chinese are spying. We don't know that.

We *do* know the Chinese are spying - extensive espionage campaigns, both military and industrial. A couple of intel professionals (was it CIA?) were nabbed just a couple days ago for spying for the ChiComs. There have been reports of computer motherboards with silicon back doors.

The Million Dollar Question: if you were the Chinese, and had the opportunity to backdoor national and international telecom networks, would you take it? I sure as hell would.
Posted by SteveS 2019-05-09 11:08||   2019-05-09 11:08|| Front Page Top

#8 Herb says Commies wouldn't do it. Only US Intel would. Only a Commie Symp would deny the first and say the second is 100%
Posted by Frank G 2019-05-09 11:11||   2019-05-09 11:11|| Front Page Top

#9 and yes, the second IS 100%.
Posted by Frank G 2019-05-09 11:39||   2019-05-09 11:39|| Front Page Top

#10 Nope, I said that we don't know. An entirely different thing. But good on you all for deliberately misstating what I said. It's what the Left does.

However we do know for a fact that US equipment is backdoored by the NSA. You know, the Deep State? The unelected government that's a threat to us all? The Chinese aren't nearly the same level of threat to the American people. They're just nationalists who want what's best for their people. They actually take stances that give them an advantage in trade negotiations. Would that our own government had done the same 20 years ago.
Posted by Herb McCoy  2019-05-09 12:50||   2019-05-09 12:50|| Front Page Top

#11 Are you shitting me?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-05-09 13:12||   2019-05-09 13:12|| Front Page Top

#12 I'll give him credit. He is a much more sophisticated troll than most that have visited Rantburg in the past. It is true that we have some people in our government who have sinister intentions and a sophisticated troll would use that to make propaganda points. But we're dealing with it. We now have a president who recognizes the danger that China poses. We have elections that allow us to choose such a man. Further, we ourselves are sophisticated enough to recognize when Chicom advocates attempt to soft pedal the danger. You wanna talk about unelected governments that threaten us?

Where is this evidence of yours that NSA has installed back doors in all American made telecomm equipment? Post a link. Tell us where to look for it. And if it's true, and if elections fail to solve the problem, we still have the Second Amendment. That's more than you can say for the Chinese.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-05-09 14:09||   2019-05-09 14:09|| Front Page Top

#13 So which Intelligence Agency do we have that isn't covered in mud and suspicion? Military Intelligence perhaps?
Posted by rschwarz 2019-05-09 14:43||   2019-05-09 14:43|| Front Page Top

#14 They are not the only ones.

We had a ZTE phone. After noticing some some "suggested" purchases on Amazon were items we were talking about over coffee, never online. All listening features were turned off.

Warnings to all.
Posted by Woodrow 2019-05-09 15:03||   2019-05-09 15:03|| Front Page Top

#15 Lol I'm not a troll you little man. I'm a patriotic American who loves his country and hates the NSA who spies on us despite a law telling them they can't.

The evidence? WTF were you in a coma when the Wikileaks came out? Snowden, ever heard of him? Exposed NSA spying on us?
Posted by Herb McCoy  2019-05-09 17:34||   2019-05-09 17:34|| Front Page Top

#16 I thought we were talking about back doors in telecomm equipment. How do you know that NSA installed back doors on all American and European made telecomm equipment? Huawei's back door would give the Chicoms access to the Brit intel computer network. You know, the emails and the databases. So Pompeo is telling the Brits he doesn't want to share those secrets with the Chicoms. Kinda makes sense to me. But it sounds like you wouldn't mind.

No, I'm not pleased with NSA spying. But it's a whole separate issue and it does NOT excuse the Chinese.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2019-05-09 18:23||   2019-05-09 18:23|| Front Page Top

#17 Stop making things up and telling me that's what I think! Jesus!
Posted by Herb McCoy  2019-05-09 21:15||   2019-05-09 21:15|| Front Page Top

#18  Stop quibbling, guys. Each is right in his own way. But the Chinese are spying on America, just not for the same reasons that the federal agencies and many depts. of the NSA are. They were meant to be used against terrorism and jihad, and incidents like Heavensgate maybe.

China spies on all countries and their industry and universities, wherever they see innovation or an economic competitor rising, they'll either try to buy it off or steal it. That's all it's about. And maybe they also want AOCs and Bernies to gain more power in US politics. The Chinese are being ripped a new one by 'the Man' anyway.

Also, what the deep state does is beyond putting bugs or chips in mass produced home electronics. It's more nuanced and networked throughout every major and minor database of the government. What the system was meant to do is important for national security. In the right hands, it's an acceptable compromise.

It's replacing the blues in control of all that information that should matter to us all.
Posted by Dron66046 2019-05-09 23:26||   2019-05-09 23:26|| Front Page Top

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