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2019-06-02 Home Front: WoT
Judge finds Navy SEAL’s fair trial rights violated in war crimes case
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Posted by Fred 2019-06-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top
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#1 You start to get the impression that even military discipline can't overcome lawyerly crookedness.
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-06-02 01:31||   2019-06-02 01:31|| Front Page Top

#2 I would think that the prosecutors should be charged with crimes in this case and on trial themselves.
Posted by Silentbrick 2019-06-02 02:00||   2019-06-02 02:00|| Front Page Top

#3 ...should and out of the military's hands. Clear case to violate the accused's fundamental civil rights of due process and conspiracy to do so. Give it to the Civil Rights division. It seems to call for the 'relief' of the chain of command who let this run.
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-06-02 07:35||   2019-06-02 07:35|| Front Page Top

#4 The trial is sounding more and more like ... Breaker Morant(1980).
Posted by magpie 2019-06-02 09:39||   2019-06-02 09:39|| Front Page Top

#5 ...There was something off about this from the beginning. I have found it almost impossible to believe that Chief Gallagher was able to do all the things charged in the call-a-lawyer-before-you-shoot ROE we had over there. The sheer viciousness of his treatment at the hands of the United States Navy raises serious, serious questions, and now we have not only admitted prosecutorial misbehavior, but it was reported Friday that three prosecution witnesses have now decided that they will not testify.

The bottom line is that to a great extent, the USN seems to be unable to prosecute anything that doesn't involve a seaman recruit and a DUI. No one - NO ONE - will ever face justice for the Fitzgerald collision now, after the CNO made public comments that he should have known better to have made. The McCain collision may never be sorted out to the point where we know why supposedly trained sailors were unable to use the controls of their own ship.

This now starts to worry me that if we get into it with the Chinese, we may well get our asses handed to us, along with several thousand body bags.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2019-06-02 11:24||   2019-06-02 11:24|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm hoping that stories like this are aberrations. But I share Mike's fears that we may be neglecting basic military preparedness and functions in favor of some lawyerly fad of the day.
Posted by Tom 2019-06-02 14:07||   2019-06-02 14:07|| Front Page Top

#7 Having a US Army JAG Major sit in on Brigade staff meetings in AFG and tossing in his opinions was difficult for me to stomach as an old contractor sitting in the cheap seats. I don't remember the Albanian SF commander or his "S-2" paying much attention, ha.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-06-02 16:42||   2019-06-02 16:42|| Front Page Top

#8 The Army JAG Corps appears to be rather ignorant about Art 99. To wit -

(8) willfully fails to do his utmost to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy any enemy troops, combatants, vessels, aircraft, or any other thing, which it is his duty so to encounter, engage, capture, or destroy; or
(9) does not afford all practicable relief and assistance to any troops, combatants, vessels, or aircraft of the armed forces belonging to the United States or their allies when engaged in battle;
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-06-02 17:20||   2019-06-02 17:20|| Front Page Top

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