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Africa Subsaharan
Zimbabwe police, soldiers banned from quitting service
Zimbabwe police and soldiers have been banned from resigning from their jobs until they have served for at least 10 years, as top commanders battle to stem a tide of young officers leaving because of poor pay and working conditions, ZimOnline has learnt.

Poor salaries and working conditions have eroded morale among junior police officers and soldiers. For example, a soldier or policeman who has just finished training takes home about Z$9 million which is many times less than the $28 million the government's Central Statistical Office says an average family of six people requires for basic goods and services per month.

Sources at the discharge sections of the army and police headquarters in Harare said a combined total of 3,000 troops and police officers had left the security forces since January. At least 500 police officers had tendered their letters of resignation in the month of February alone before the Joint Operations Command (JOC) decided in the first week of this month to ban further resignations by officers who have not done 10 years on the job, the sources said. The JOC comprises the commanders of army, air force, police and prison service. It is chaired by Zimbabwe Defence Forces commander General Constantine Chiwenga.

In a memo to police provincial commanders dated March 6, 2006 and written after the JOC meeting, Police Commissioner Augustine Chihuri instructed that "only those members (of the police force) who have served for 10 years and above should be allowed to leave."

Chihuri also ordered his provincial commanders to thoroughly check and verify the stated reasons for resignation and said junior officers wishing to go and further studies either in Zimbabwe or abroad should provide proof including acceptance letters from the intended places of study before their requests to be allowed to leave can be processed. Several police officers and soldiers have in the past duped their commanders to grant them temporary leave of absence to study abroad but once outside the country have refused to return after finding menial but better paying jobs in countries such as Britain and the United States.

An official at the army's public and press relations office refused to discuss the ban on resignations saying the amry never discloses to the Press the number of people joining or leaving because this was a security matter. "I cannot talk about that …. it is a security matter," the official said. Police spokesman Wayne Bvudzijena would not take questions on Chihuri's memo to provincial police commanders but still insisted officers were free to leave the police force whenever they felt they could no longer work for the organisation.

Chihuri last year told a special committee of Parliament that dissatisfaction was rising among his officers because of poor pay and warned the legislators that the country was running a huge security risk by underpaying its police.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/25/2006 13:05 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Who can you trust?
Posted by: john || 03/25/2006 20:05 Comments || Top||

#2  That sounds like an EXCELLENT plan! Keep pissing off those that have the training AND access to weapons and are versed in all sorts of tactics. Then when they overthrow the gov't, all can act surprised! I mean, c'mon, they are getting 9 MILLION Zimbucks; that should buy some sort of loyalty. (Sarc key busted)
Posted by: USN Ret. || 03/25/2006 23:30 Comments || Top||


Zimbabwe: Zanu PF Calls For MDC Leader's Detention
The ruling Zanu PF yesterday called for the detention of opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai for allegedly inciting violent protests aimed at overthrowing President Robert Mugabe, charging the mass action call constituted treason. The agitation in Zanu PF came as opposition leaders urged the nation's soldiers and police to disobey orders to crush any show of dissent against the government.

“The time has now come for the security forces to make that historic choice of either being with the people or against them,” Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) spokesman Nelson Chamisa said.

The MDC spokesman, who was elected unopposed at the party’s historic congress held weekend, said nonpartisan troops had nothing to fear under any new government, but warned that those who had been perpetrators of violence against ordinary Zimbabweans for expressing their democratic rights would be arrested, tried and jailed.

Home Affairs Minister Kembo Mohadi accused Tsvangirai of trying “to cause unrest and civil commotion” under the guise of fighting for political rights. Mohadi’s call follows another threat from the ruling Zanu PF party to Tsvangirai calling on him to desist from advocating war following his call for mass protests. The MDC has shook Mugabe's government with the threat for fresh protests to push Mugabe out of power. Mohadi said the MDC was led by “punch-drunk” puppets sponsored by the West to subvert Zimbabwe's national sovereignty.

Tsvangirai warned President Mugabe, charging “the dictator must brace himself for a long, bustling winter across the country.” The former trade union leader called on more than 15 000 supporters at a weekend conference to take part in a “sustained cold season of peaceful democratic resistance.” But Mohadi warned that the government would crush any protests.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Bangladesh
Two housewives killed for dowry
Two housewives were killed for dowry in Comilla and Munshiganj on Wednesday midnight and Thursday. A man allegedly strangled his wife at village Shahababad under Brahmanpara upazila in Comilla on Thursday. The victim is Aysha Begum, 27, daughter of Seraj Ali of the Barershor area under the upazila.

The police, quoting local people, said Aysha’s husband Sumon Miah, 30, beat his wife to death when she expressed her inability to bring dowry of Tk 45,000 from her poor parents. The man later hanged the body to prove that the death was an incident of suicide.
Didn't fool anyone since this is apparently a common rouse.
Family source said Sumon got married with Aysha seven year back and have two sons, but her in-laws were unhappy over the marriage and used to torture her.

Sumon fled the scene after the incident. The police recovered the body and sent it to hospital morgue for post-mortem examination. A case was filed with the police.

Meanwhile, a man killed his pregnant wife at village Madhyapara under Sirajdikhan upazila in Munshiganj Wednesday midnight. The deceased is Ayesha Akter Shila, 22. Locals said Ibrahim, husband of Shila, often tortured her for dowry. On Wednesday midnight Ibrahim and his family members beat her severely for the same reason.

She died on the spot. Later to prove it an incident of suicide they hanged the body from a ceiling of their house. A case was filed with the police. The police arrested her husband Thursday morning in this connection.
Posted by: Steve White || 03/25/2006 01:08 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sumon and Ibrahim are awaiting their full Yale scholarships.
Posted by: Hupeater Sninens8424 || 03/25/2006 9:14 Comments || Top||

#2  very cold Hupeater Sninens8424!
Posted by: RD || 03/25/2006 11:13 Comments || Top||

#3  What a barbarous religion and culture. If you’d stop selling your daughters like breeding cows, writing cheques you can’t cash, sold to the lowest bidder then wiping your hands as a job well done. Knowing she’s dead the minute you don’t cough up the cash, and not caring ‘cause it saves you the job of killing her. Such a problem, girls are.

Plopping kids into the world with stunning regularity – kids born of parents thrown together – a slave and a master – no love, no respect. And in this void atmosphere are taught the same values and the hate goes on.

I’m developing, against all efforts not to, a strong hatred of and outrage against islam. I have truly had it. And despair at the lack of general understanding and refusal to object. Honestly, I’m starting to foam at the mouth – tho’ that might just be the Tubourg.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 03/25/2006 11:26 Comments || Top||

#4  "hung herself...., oh, and she also beat herself to death"
Posted by: Frank G || 03/25/2006 12:24 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Chavez sez no plan to suspend oil shipments
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said on Friday his government had no plan to suspend oil supplies to United States but would prefer to give priority to energy deals with Latin American neighbors. Speaking to regional central bank representatives, Chavez took a softer line after earlier harsh rhetoric and threats to cut off U.S. petroleum supplies should Washington "cross the line" in their heated diplomatic dispute.

Venezuela, the world's fifth-largest oil exporter and a key U.S. crude supplier, has signed energy pacts with Latin American neighbors, China and India as Chavez seeks to break his nation's traditional economic reliance on the United States.

Chavez' comments came a day after the U.S. ambassador to Caracas said Venezuela had suspended a threat to restrict or ban flights by U.S. airlines after the two governments agreed to negotiations to end a dispute over aviation rights. But on Friday the Venezuela government said lifting the threat depended on how well talks went next week with U.S. officials in Caracas.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  El Caudillo needs the money to support the French style bureaucracy that he is building in order to maintain power.
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 03/25/2006 2:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Exactly. The only way to get rid of this asshole is to cut off the money.
Posted by: TMH || 03/25/2006 22:18 Comments || Top||


Europe
Belarus opposition defies ban, calls for rally
Belarus's liberal opposition, its four-day protest snuffed out by police, defied a ban and called a new rally on Saturday to denounce what it calls the rigged re-election of President Alexander Lukashenko.

Alexander Milinkevich, defeated opposition candidate in the March 19 poll, urged supporters to mass "no matter what" from 1000 GMT in October Square -- site of the tent camp cleared away by police in the early hours of Friday. If authorities sealed off the square, he said, protesters would move to a different location which he refused to disclose.

Demonstrators are demanding a re-run of the poll which handed Lukashenko five more years in power in the ex-Soviet state that he rules with an iron grip. The official tally gave him 83 percent to just 6 for Milinkevich.

It was not immediately clear what support Milinkevich could expect for Saturday's demonstration, which will also mark the independence day of a short-lived Belarussian republic in 1918. Stiff legislation against illegal assembly and unrelenting police action had kept opposition activity to a minimum in recent months. Most protests attract only dozens of activists. But authorities have handled this week's protests with comparative tolerance and police may simply divert protesters away from the city center and avoid confrontation.

The United States and the European Union issued separate statements denouncing the police action and announcing plans to impose restrictions on Belarus, including a travel ban in the aftermath of the election. But Russia, Lukashenko's main backer, expressed sympathy.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Do not settle for being beaten in your homes there in Belarus. This whole thing will unravel pretty quick.
Posted by: newc || 03/25/2006 7:57 Comments || Top||


French youth labour law talks fail
France's prime minister and the country's unions have failed to break the deadlock over a youth labour law at a first meeting called to discuss a crisis that has triggered mass protests and riots. Employers' groups also met with Dominique de Villepin on Friday to tell him the contract might not be the best way to reduce unemployment and warn him the violence was endangering the economy.

Villepin said the 90 minutes of union talks, in the run-up to a national strike on Tuesday, were "an important first step" and he hoped for more discussions in the coming days. But he made it clear he would not heed their call to dump the CPE First Job Contract. Jacques Chirac, the president, who has prodded his prime minister to renew dialogue with unions, said Villepin was ready to take account of protesters' views but condemned rioting by youths which marred demonstrations in Paris and some provincial cities.
Posted by: Fred || 03/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No Sphrockets, always a good sign.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 03/25/2006 8:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Quelle surprise.

Take a closer look at the tioting youths. The ones who join in only at the end of the manifestations. The ones who start the fires and the riots and the destruction. Notice something? Notice something not many media outlets are reporting?

It's the November guys. It's your muslim yout'. Proxy war, sweeties. N'est-ce pas?
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 03/25/2006 11:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Crap - rioting youths.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 03/25/2006 11:50 Comments || Top||

#4  This is actually like the violence last May, in which white niddle-class students protested some policy or other, and were shocked to find themselves assaulted, robbed and more at the hands of north African immigrants who taunted them with racial slurs.
Posted by: lotp || 03/25/2006 11:56 Comments || Top||


EU leaders impose sanctions on Belarus
The European Union agreed on Friday to impose sanctions on Belarus leaders, including President Alexander Lukashenko, over a presidential election it condemned as flawed. The 25 EU leaders also deplored overnight police action to break up peaceful demonstrations in Minsk against the conduct of the poll and demanded the release of some 200 protesters who were detained.
Posted by: Fred || 03/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But not on Palestine.
Posted by: gromgoru || 03/25/2006 20:52 Comments || Top||

#2  If only he'd had a Pogrom.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 03/25/2006 21:11 Comments || Top||

#3  It's too late?
Posted by: Snise Angomosing6920 || 03/25/2006 22:08 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Fed-up church members stand guard, beat robbery suspect
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For two months, they spent their nights as volunteer security guards in their burglary-plagued house of God.

The vigilance paid off early Friday when a suspected burglar broke through a window and encountered a half-dozen church members wielding baseball bats and broom handles.

When police arrived, at about 1 a.m., they found the man battered and bound with rope on the roof outside a second-story window.

Evangelical church whose members are poor immigrants from Mexico and Guatemala. No charges are being laid against the church members.

Posted by: lotp || 03/25/2006 09:01 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wonder if they pointed out the would be robber that in their faith two thieves accompanied their master that day. Or as the Romans would say - nail'em up. It deters repeat offensives.
Posted by: Hupeater Sninens8424 || 03/25/2006 9:09 Comments || Top||

#2  "... no charges are being laid against the church members."

No charges for beating the robber. And no charges for immigration violations? In this case, I guess it's a fair trade.
Posted by: Glenmore || 03/25/2006 9:22 Comments || Top||

#3  There is no evidence that these men are here illegally, Glenmore. Just my opinion, but I don't think it's the evangelical Christians from latin America that we need to worry about.
Posted by: lotp || 03/25/2006 10:08 Comments || Top||

#4  There's almost never evidence any immigrants are here illegally; law enforcement either can't ask, can't follow through if they do find out, can't cooperate with other agencies who have authority to act, won't follow through even if they do have authority. I actually agree that immigrants such as these, legal or not, likely pose no threat (unless you're a robber), nor do many/most others, but we ignore the immensity of the illegal immigrant phenomenon at our great peril.
Posted by: Glenmore || 03/25/2006 11:32 Comments || Top||

#5  No, no, it's your OWN cheek you're supposed to turn.
Posted by: Perfessor || 03/25/2006 14:02 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Hudood Ord ineffective in controlling crime: report
The Hudood Ordinance has not been effective in controlling crimes falling under its ambit, concluded a report by the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII). The number of registered cases shows that the number of Hudood-related crimes has not decreased, the report added. According to the CII report, 361,035 cases were registered during the last five years under the Hudood Ordinance. As many as 75, 943 cases were registered in 2001 and 82,545 in 2002. Similarly 67,063 cases were registered in 2003 and 77,420 in 2004. However, the number of cases registered under the Hudood Ordinance by the end of August 2005 was 58,064, the report said.

In 2001, people were convicted in 47,518 cases while 13,266 were acquitted. In 2002, 46,874 were convicted and 12,753 acquitted. Similarly, 44,146 people were convicted and 16,748 were acquitted in 2003. At least 36,511 were convicted and 13,212 acquitted in 2004. However, 18,776 people were convicted and 5,904 acquitted in 2005 by August.

On the other hand, the number of cases registered under Zina Ordinance has also increased during the last five years and the rate of conviction in Zina cases remained low compared to acquittal rates, the report said. In 2001, at least 356 people were convicted while 1,123 acquitted. In 2002, as many as 388 people were convicted and 1,320 acquitted. Similarly, 316 people were convicted while 1,318 acquitted in 2003 and 345 were convicted and 1093 acquitted in 2004. At least 127 people were convicted and 533 acquitted in 2005 up to August, the report said. The report further said 1,501 Zina cases had been registered so far which were pending in different courts.

The report said that the ordinance had remained controversial since its enforcement with a considerable critical literature questioning the punishment of Rjam, ambiguity about Zina-bil-Jabr, traditional criminal procedure and definition and identification of Hudood crimes. The report said that there are three schools of thought about the ordinance. There were those who wanted to retain the status quo, those who wanted it be repealed and those who welcomed amendments. Those who favoured status quo argued that Hudood laws were divine and only westernised elements of Pakistani society were seeking its repeal. Others argued that Hudood laws were not divine and were framed by jurists.
Posted by: Fred || 03/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Theres Water Under The Desert – But Its Hardly Being Used
This should be an interesting factor in the Israeli-Pal water wars.

The one place in water-short Israel where natural groundwater is available and not being fully exploited is – of all places – in the mostly uninhabited Judean desert.

This surprising conclusion arises from a thorough hydrological mapping study done as an M.Sc. thesis at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem by Leehee Laronne Ben-Itzhak, under the supervision of Prof. Haim Gvirtzman of the university's Institute of Earth Sciences. The study provides detailed information regarding the nature, volume and path of what is called the Judea Group Aquifer, an underground water reservoir beneath the Judean desert. A report on the study was carried in a recent issue of the Journal of Hydrology

This aquifer begins in the Judean mountains and flows in a generally northeasterly direction towards the Dead Sea, with outflows at four springs adjacent to the Dead Sea – the Tsukim, Kane, Samar and Ein-Gedi springs. There is also some sub-surface flow into the Dead Sea.

The rain-fed aquifer contains an average yearly volume of some 100 million cubic meters of water, of which only about 20 percent is currently used, said Prof. Gvirtzman, with the rest flowing into the Dead Sea. The water potential of the Judea Group Aquifer is sufficient to supply 5 percent of the current total freshwater usage in Israel, said Gvirtzman, and could at least meet the potable water needs of the towns of Maale Adumim, Bethlehem and Hebron at much lower cost than at present.

Currently, he says the water coming to Maale Adumim is brought sometimes hundreds of kilometers from Lake Kinneret via the National Water Carrier. Why do that when there is water literally beneath the town? asks Gvirtzman.

In addition to the mapping survey carried out by Ben-Itzhak, who is now working on her Ph.D. theses at the Weizmann Institute of Science, another study is currently being done by a second graduate student, Eldad Levi, also working under Prof. Gvirtzman, who is analyzing the interface between the fresh and saline groundwaters at various points in the Judea Group Aquifer, using a novel remote sensing technique called the deep time-domain electro-magnetic method.

"These two studies have practical implications regarding future possibilities of groundwater development for the benefit of both Israelis and Palestinians residing in the area and for conservation of nature reserves located along the Dead Sea," says Gvirtzman. "The government has allocated these waters to the Palestinians, who are unfortunately doing nothing to fully exploit this available water source," he added.

As for the impact of drawing more water away from flowing into the Dead Sea, which is rapidly becoming depleted, Gvirtzman says that in any case the current groundwater flow into the Dead Sea is totally inadequate to halt that problem and that dramatic steps would have to be taken to resolve the situation.
Posted by: 3dc || 03/25/2006 12:29 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The government has allocated these waters to the Palestinians, who are unfortunately doing nothing to fully exploit this available water source,"

Well, what do you expect from a culture that devotes all its energies to death and destruction? Not much left for creation is there?
Posted by: DarthVader || 03/25/2006 14:59 Comments || Top||

#2  wow! surprising the Paleo moderate intellectuals™ didn't discover this in their societal pursuit of knowledge


/sarcasm
Posted by: Frank G || 03/25/2006 19:23 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Towards a new test of general relativity?
Scientists funded by the European Space Agency have measured the gravitational equivalent of a magnetic field for the first time in a laboratory. Under certain special conditions the effect is much larger than expected from general relativity and could help physicists to make a significant step towards the long-sought-after quantum theory of gravity.

details at link
Posted by: 3dc || 03/25/2006 11:32 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hard to tell about this. They mostly cite themselves, even on the theory. I'm not convinced.
First of all, their experimental results need to be confirmed. Then we get to interpretation, where I would think there are a lot of other possibilities out there, but maybe they can rule them all out.

If their interpretation turns out to be correct, they get to play the waiting game (there are four of them, so they have to wait for the first to die, before the remaining three can be awarded a Nobel prize)

Interesting that the USAF have part funded this.
Posted by: Jake-the-peg || 03/25/2006 14:28 Comments || Top||

#2  I have a little trouble with their explanation that the graviton acquires a mass when inside a superconductor. Gravitons (if they exist) aren't charged, so there's no direct effect due to being in a superconductor. Is this supposed to be some fancy coupling to Cooper pairs? I'm not up to speed on superconductor theory, so I can't back-of-the-envelope this one, but I'm suspicious.
Posted by: James || 03/25/2006 16:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Interesting that the USAF have part funded this.

Not so, really. The US military has expressed a deep interest in potential new drive field technologies, particularly "Heim Theory" as detailed in New Scientist in February.

This looks to me like it might be a low-power test of Heim Theory, but I'm hardly a physicist and few of them currently understand Heim Theory (though it does deal specifically with rotating magnetic fields inducing an accelartive field).

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 03/25/2006 16:48 Comments || Top||


Area 51: Aviation Icon Dies at 84
Posted by: Bernie || 03/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  From one test pilot to another: Rest in peace my friend, you have done your share. NSDQ!
Posted by: 49 Pan || 03/25/2006 21:29 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Immigration Rallies Draw Thousands Nationwide
Hat tip: Drudge. EFL.
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Thousands of people across the country protested Friday against legislation cracking down on illegal aliens immigrants, with demonstrators in such cities as Los Angeles, Phoenix and Atlanta staging school walkouts, marches and work stoppages.

Congress is considering bills that would make it a felony to be illegally in the United States, impose new penalties on employers who hire illegal immigrants and erect fences along one-third of the U.S.-Mexican border. The proposals have angered many Hispanics.
I wonder how many of these 'hispanics' were legal residents or had green cards.....
The Los Angeles demonstration led to fights between black and Hispanic students at one high school, but the protests were largely peaceful, authorities said.

In Phoenix, police said 10,000 demonstrators marched to the office of Republican Sen. Jon Kyl, co-sponsor of a bill that would give illegal immigrants up to five years to leave the country. The turnout clogged a major thoroughfare.
Only 10,000?
"They're here for the American Dream," said Malissa Greer, 29, who joined a crowd estimated by police to be at least 10,000 strong. "God created all of us. He's not a God of the United States, he's a God of the world."

Kyl had no immediate comment on the rally.

At least 500 students at Huntington Park High School near Los Angeles walked out of classes in the morning. Hundreds of the students, some carrying Mexican flags, walked down the middle of Los Angeles streets, police cruisers behind them.

In Georgia, activists said tens of thousands of workers did not show up at their jobs Friday after calls for a work stoppage to protest a bill passed by the Georgia House on Thursday.

That bill, which has yet to gain Senate approval, would deny state services to adults living in the U.S. illegally and impose a 5 percent surcharge on wire transfers from illegal immigrants.
Both of which are damn good ideas....
Supporters say the Georgia measure is vital to homeland security and frees up limited state services for people legally entitled to them. Opponents say it unfairly targets workers meeting the demands of some of the state's largest industries.

Teodoro Maus, an organizer of the Georgia protest, estimated as many as 80,000 Hispanics did not show up for work. About 200 converged on the steps of the Georgia Capitol, some wrapped in Mexican flags and holding signs reading: "Don't panic, we're Hispanic"
Maus: eah... well we only have 200 illegal aliens here but tens of thousands didn't work - beleve us!
AP Reporter: Okay. No need to verify....

and "We have a dream, too."

Jennifer Garcia worried what would the proposal would do to her family. She said her husband is an illegal Mexican immigrant.

"If they send him back to Mexico, who's going to take care of them and me?" Garcia said of herself and her four children.
Perhaps you should have thought of that before you married an illegal?
"This is the United States. We need to come together and be a whole."

Anyone notice that...
1) They did not identify which of their 'protesters' they talked to were legal residents or citizens. (Personally I think they all were illegal aliens).

2) They did not interview anyone who agrees with the bill (and there are a lot of them -- most legal immigrants for example). They want to leave the impression that nobody supports it.

3) No mention of the existing legal means of immigration. They want the impression that there are none.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 03/25/2006 07:15 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I have a suggestion for all those assholes marching and shouting "MEXICO": GO TO MEXICO AND STAY THERE!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 03/25/2006 9:10 Comments || Top||

#2  See its nothing to do with 'immigration'. Its an invasion with the support by our own domestic quislings and useful idiots. Its not about christian compassion. Get you head out of your ass GWB. Its about being played by someone else. These people marching in the streets have zero loyalty to America.
Posted by: Hupeater Sninens8424 || 03/25/2006 9:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Sounds like a backfire building up to me.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 03/25/2006 9:54 Comments || Top||

#4  "They're here for the American Dream," said Malissa Greer, 29, who joined a crowd estimated by police to be at least 10,000 strong. "God created all of us. He's not a God of the United States, he's a God of the world."

Oh I see, it's Human Right for all humans to live in America. And God says so. Rules be damned.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 03/25/2006 10:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Okay, now we've seen they can draw a crowd. I saw the footage of these slugs surrounding Kyl's office. He's doing his job. Did they have a permit? Was this approved by local LE? Do they have a right to attempt intimidation?

They advertise these events well in advance so the party faithful, professional goons, and "activists" can get organized for the circus. The forces of Law and Order should do the same. INS should target as many "events" in as many places as they think they can handle with local LE assistance. Plan it out, get your ducks lined up, borrow prison busses, box them in and sweep the demonstrators up.

This is a classic target-rich environment. Once you've made a sweep of such demonstrations - and deported or jailed the illegals and trouble-makers - the entire mass demonstration bit will dry up and you'll have gotten some of the real bad actors off the streets.

Then send them a Thank You note for making it so easy.
Posted by: Grim Grin || 03/25/2006 12:49 Comments || Top||

#6  nice PR move with the Mexican flags, idiots. We also need to repeal the "born here = citizen" statutes...illegals cross just to have children born here (free emergency room care, citizen children = harder to deport)
Posted by: Frank G || 03/25/2006 13:36 Comments || Top||

#7  "Don't panic, we're Hispanic"

Just not organic.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 03/25/2006 13:44 Comments || Top||

#8  Wake Up. We are at a tipping point about losing our country. When these thieves take control, how tolerant do you think they will be treating the Anglos who let them steal the county back as they see it? Timew for some strightforward racial profiling here. If you think there are only 10 million illegals here you are delusional. Triple that number, and the jobs that Americans don't want apparently include construction and transportation as well as service industries.. Get a clue, Southern California is already lost. If you doubt that, I challenge you to drive in L.A. and turn on the radio, AM, and seek the channels. more than 75% are not in English my friends....
Posted by: Hupager Elmavigum9647 || 03/25/2006 14:13 Comments || Top||

#9  Please join http://www.RightMarch.com/
now, if you haven't already. Together, we are making a difference. Today there are thousands of us, tomorrow, millions.
Take back America. It's that easy.
Posted by: wxjames || 03/25/2006 17:09 Comments || Top||

#10  And tell your friends about rightmarch.
Posted by: wxjames || 03/25/2006 17:10 Comments || Top||

#11  Don't you know? Rules are for Republicans and laws are for Gringos. If you are a Democrat or a Mexican, the rules and and the laws don't apply.
Posted by: RWV || 03/25/2006 21:58 Comments || Top||

#12  Of course they don't want to be thrown out now. They have it so good. We support their hordes of kids in our schools , hospitals, etc. Our roads are polluted and we can't drive. Noooo, they don't wannt to be thrown out. They want their rights as American citizens. Oooppss. Forgot. They are no such thing. They're illegals. Soon to be felons. I want to have one right also. I want to have the right to hunt them. I want a bounty on their heads. I want it to be legal to round them up. Do you think we'll have that right ? Or do we only have the right to donate our paychecks for their support?
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 03/25/2006 22:29 Comments || Top||



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