Anthropologists stepped into a hornet's nest, revealing research that suggests the original inhabitants of America may in fact have come from Australia.
The claim will be extremely unwelcome to today's native Americans who came overland from Siberia and say they were there first.
But Silvia Gonzalez from John Moores University in Liverpool said skeletal evidence pointed strongly to this unpalatable truth and hinted that recovered DNA would corroborate it.
"This is very contentious," Ms Gonzalez, a Mexican, said at the annual meeting of the British association for the Advancement of Science (BA). "They (native Americans) can not claim to have been the first people there."
She said there was very strong evidence that the first migration came from Australia via Japan and Polynesia and down the Pacific Coast of America.
Skulls of a people with distinctively long and narrow heads discovered in Mexico and California predated by several thousand years the more rounded features of the skulls of native Americans.
One particularly well preserved skull of a long-face woman had been carbon dated to 12,700 years ago, whereas the oldest accurately dated native American skull was only about 9,000-years-old.
"We have extracted her DNA. It is going to be a bomb," she said, declining to give details but adding that the tests carried out so far were being replicated to make sure they were accurate.
She said there were tales from Spanish missionaries of an isolated coastal community of long-face people in Baja California, of a completely different race and rituals from other communities in America at the time.
These last survivors were wiped out by diseases imported by the Spanish conquerors, Ms Gonzalez said.
The research is one of 11 different projects in America, Africa, Asia and the Middle East being funded over a four-year period by Britain's Natural Environment Research Council.
The projects, focusing on diet, dating and dispersal of people down the millennia in the face of climate change, aim to rewrite anthropology.
"We want to make headlines from heads," said Professor Clive Gamble of Southampton university. "DNA will give us a completely new map of the world and how we peopled it."
I don't care one way or the other; somebody got here some way, and it's perfectly possible more than one somebody got here more than one way. The Westerm Hemisphere is huge, particularly for people traveling by foot and/or animal (as far as I know, no one in the Western Hemisphere invented the wheel).
Right now, though - speaking as one who majored in geology in college - I'm a little more interested in making sure we aren't wiped out by a disease.
A disease called islamonazism.
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BRUSSELS - By the year 3000, Brussels will be a coastal capital and Antwerp will have disappeared into the sea, warned a report out on Wednesday.
The study into the effects Belgium could suffer from global warming was carried out by the Catholic University of Leuven (UCL) and was commissioned by the environmental group Greenpeace.
A team of 20 experts, headed by climatology professor Jean-Pascal van Ypersele, warned Belgium would not escape the green house effect.
The researchers predicted that the country will see milder winters in the years to come, but that summers would become more humid, with many more heatwaves like 2003.
By the end of century, temperatures may rise between 1.7 and 4.9 degrees in winter and 2.4 to 6.6 degrees in the summer - the kind of temperature increases that haven't been recorded for the last 10,000 years.
Increased flooding, storms and coastal erosion were also predicted. The experts said an increase of one metre in the sea-level around Belgium would see 63,000 hectares of land disappear.
That problem could be tackled in the short-term, stated the report, through schemes to add extra sand to beaches.
One such project is currently under way in Ostend, for example.
The experts also said new species were proliferating in Belgium and would continue to do so, such as the arrival of oysters in the North Sea, which until now have preferred warmer waters.
Van Ypersele said some of the effects of climate change would be welcomed but added: "Looking at a horizon of 2030, 2050 or beyond, we can see that the potential negative effects significantly outweigh the few positive effects."
Greenpeace said it hoped the government would look at the report's findings and realise the importance of using more renewable energy sources and of developing a long-term environmental strategy.
#3
The obvious solution is to slowly and methodically build a permanent sea wall, like in the Netherlands. Optimally, there are several advantages to doing this. The first is to design a wall that can be improved over time--larger and taller. Then you build secondary sea walls to actually reclaim land from the sea--also acting as "area surge barriers", for agriculture or other low human density projects. Between the two, even a tidal wave would be hard pressed to flood the main country.
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Ooooh yummy! Fresh oysters in "New Venice" (formerly Brussels) in the year 3000! I can hardly wait. More Greenpeace money well spent.
What a waste of "experts." As they say over at Fark: "...and still no cure for cancer."
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Mmmmmm suikerwafels...
So plant more trees to soak up the CO2: evergreens on the north side - to block the wind - deciduous species on the south - to let the sun warm them in winter (and mangroves along the coast, perhaps?). Once upon a time all of northern Europe was forest and swamp, and we didn't hear whining about global warming then, did we!
Oh, yes, and turn down the sun -- it hasn't been this excited in 1000 years.
This is a bad one:
Powerful Hurricane Ivan charged west through the Caribbean on Wednesday after killing at least four people and smashing homes in a devastating punch to the tiny spice island of Grenada and glancing blows to nearby islands. Ivan's 140 mph (225 kph) winds prompted storm alerts for the Dutch islands of Aruba, Bonair and Curacao, the north coast of Venezuela and Colombia's Guajira peninsula and parts of Haiti and the Dominican Republic. The latest storm in a very busy Atlantic hurricane season, Ivan roared into the southeast Caribbean on Tuesday, churning right over Grenada and delivering side swipes at Barbados, St Vincent and the Grenadines and Tobago.
Grenada, a volcanic island of 90,000 people that is a major producer of nutmeg, cloves and other spices, was worst hit. The storm killed at least three people and devastated the capital, St George's, destroying the island's emergency operations center and the home of Prime Minister Dr. Keith Mitchell, the Caribbean Disaster Emergency Response Agency said. A helicopter took off from a nearby British Navy ship and flew over the island on Wednesday to assess damage and to find out if the airport was usable, said Donovan Gentles, CDERA's Preparedness and Response manager. The island had suffered "total devastation," Gentles said.
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Time for Hurricane Ivan to devastate the Pankisi Gorge.
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Samira Bellil, a prominent campaigner for the rights of French Muslim women who gained fame with a book recounting gang rapes she suffered as a teenager, has died of stomach cancer, her publisher Editions Denoel said Wednesday. She was 31. Bellil's 2002 autobiographical narrative, ``Dans l'Enfer des Tournantes'' (In the Hell of Gang Rape), explores the violence she endured during her childhood in a tough Parisian suburb, from drugs to gang rapes at the age of 13. The book was the final step in her fight to regain a sense of self-worth having been rejected and abused for bringing charges against her aggressors and refusing to suffer silently, according to her publishing house.
Born in Algeria, Bellil grew up in Seine-Saint-Denis outside Paris, a heavily immigrant region where gangs flourish. Bellil was active in the movement ``Ni Putes Ni Soumises'' (Neither Whores Nor Submissive), which fights for the rights of women in the suburbs, where men and the law of silence sometimes rule. The group campaigned in favor of a law implemented last week that bans girls from wearing Islamic head scarves in public schools. The group expressed its profound sorrow at her death and paid homage to her fighting spirit and generosity. ``All her life, Samira showed an unfailing readiness to fight in battling against the infamy of barbarous machoism and violence,'' the organization said in a statement. ``Her strength allowed numerous girls to resist to achieve their emancipation.'' The minister for victims' rights, Nicole Guedj, praised Bellil's courage. `The memory of her courage and the force with which she dared to denounce the reality of gang rapes will be with me in my willingness to fight the humiliations suffered by women who are the victims of sexual violence,'' Guedj said in a statement. Jean-Louis Borloo, minister for social cohesion, and Catherine Vautrin, deputy minister for integration, praised Bellil's commitment.
A European commissioner has warned that the European Union may implode if Turkey is allowed to join. Frits Bolkestein, the internal market commissioner, expressed concern that if Ankara was admitted to the EU, the defeat of Turks in Vienna more than 300 years ago could turn out to have been in vain.
Thank goodness no one in Europe has a long memory.
The commission is due to report next month on Turkey's eligibility and heads of government are scheduled to make a decision in December. Mr Bolkestein laid bare tensions in the EU over whether to open accession talks with Ankara. The Dutch rightwing liberal said Turkey would have to undergo huge changes before being ready for entry, fundamentally altering its identity, and that the accession of a country of 68 million people, with perhaps 83 million by 2010, would transform the EU. He added: "After Turkish entry the EU will simply be unable to sustain its current agricultural and regional policy. Europe would implode."
And the inability to sustain the current ag policy is a problem because ...
Yesterday, his spokesman insisted that Mr Bolkestein did not want to prejudge the outcome of the debate within the commission.
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But the US, which sees Turkey as an ally in its "war on terror", has been pressing the EU to allow earlier entry, and the Turkish government has been pushing through reforms of its legal system, including the abolition of the death penalty
Now there is a "says who" statement if I ever saw one!
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It's funny how the self-appointed morally superior Europhiles go quiet and shuffle their feet when it come to letting Turkey join the club. Expecially when their favourite tactic when trying to shout down Eurosceptics in debate is to label their opponents 'racists' / 'xenophobes' / 'little Englanders' (in the UK, at least). The Brussels visionaries want a whites-only empire, or fear all will inevitably fail. What confidence they must have in their own project...
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If the Turks join the EU I'm going to buy some serious weaponry and live in armed compound in the north. Like the Turks - don't (apart from Murat's Islamofascist ilk) mind them at all - but we will be flooded. Can't happen, won't happen - not with our current benefits system anyway. Find other means to keep them on side in the WoT - but not free migration - we'd be being boomed before you knew it.
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If the Turks join the EU I'm going to buy some serious weaponry and live in armed compound in the north. Like the Turks - don't (apart from Murat's Islamofascist ilk) mind them at all - but we will be flooded.
Don't worry Howard, you won't experience it anyway, it'll be a pleasure for me to shoot your WASP (White Anglosakson Protestant) arse to hell.
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Quite.
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...and that's 'Saxon' - like the heavy-metal band of old.
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At the risk of sounding a philistine - artist/title?
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The confessions of a clown: Fallujah, Ramadi, Bakuba and Samarra are in control of the Sunnite resistance, Najaf and Sadr city are still in control of the radical Shia leader Muqtada al-Sadr
Bwahahaha the mighty American army!
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Howard, Jacques-Louis David: The Death of Maurat.
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Why is Washington producing so much lies?
In search of truth: http://pixla.px.cz/pentagon.swf
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Murat, the lie in the URL you posted was not produced by Washington. Just by some conspiracy theorist.
This has been debunked number of times. See Snopes.
Oh, sorry, I forgotten, you are not interested in truth. You need to indulge in hallucinations, else your parallel universe bubble may burst and you would be hurled crashing into the actual reality. You would not be able to survive. That image I posted reflect exactly what would ensue.
#22
GJ, the Turks are already in. A sizable bunch of'em. But I don't think they are the speahead of EUeewww doom. It's the other mooslimes, in Fwance, but also in UK, that are probably a carrier of troublez.
You probably don't need any external factor to facilitate the end of EUnuchistan. They can manage themselves pretty well in that direction. Patience.
#23
Turkey is no more a US ally than Pakistan is. If we didn't float over boatloads of greenbacks, they would have nothing to do with us. Just like whores.
The US is recommending Turkey's admittance even because of Ankara's treacherous behavior just to put France and Germany's panties in a bunch.
We should really stir things up by also recommending a free Kurdish state. Gotta give a little to get a little so they say.
#24
You need to indulge in hallucinations, else your parallel universe bubble may burst and you would be hurled crashing into the actual reality. You would not be able to survive.
ROTFLMFAO!
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Why is Washington producing so much lies?
Haahaha, Washington couldn't hold a candle to your bullshit, pal.
#26
If treated right, Turkey can help us greatly vs Iran. Turkey's more important to us than France and Germany combined.
Help Turkey get into the EU and foster the nascent Turkey-Israel-India alliance. Add Russia to the mix and you've got a real and viable replacement for NATO.
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lex: Forget about Turkey, they've proven that they are not to be trusted. Oh sure, they'll take our money, but don't ever expect them to actually contribute. As long as the islamist party runs the show, they are useless.
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Um, guys, Murat just threatened one of the regulars:
Don't worry Howard, you won't experience it anyway, it'll be a pleasure for me to shoot your WASP (White Anglosakson Protestant) arse to hell.
Ban his ass.
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I don't see this Murat going quietly with a bottle of poison. I see him misconnecting the blue wire and taking his friends with him.
I liked the other Murat better. He was the A team. This Murat's on the B team.
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I'm beginning to reconsider the "two Murats" theory. I think they're the same person, but he's so hopped-up on jihad he's letting his stupidity show.
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RC..maybe. But I've always secretly believed that the real Murat stopped posting shortly after the Turkish bombs that blew up in frot of the banks.
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one, two, who cares....you clone the village idiot and you'll get another idiot. A loser in the full sense of the word
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No offence intended to the 'original', one-and-only, Murat, but why would anyone want to impersonate him? He always was something of a nut; he's just got nuttier...
I think he might've fallen in with a bad crowd. Forgotten who his real friends are.
Is that right, Murat? You've fallen in with a bad crowd?
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At the risk of sounding a philistine - artist/title? - Howard UK
Saxon toured with Iron Maiden on the Piece of Mind tour. I liked them before that, but during the concert the hyper-repetition of the songs really got to me. They were well known for their hatred of Duran Duran who was huge at the time.
Now currently residing in the where are they now file...
#36
Anything that would bring about the end of the EUewwww is OK by me--let the Turks come on in
Jen, I sincerely hope you're not advocating the bombing of the UK, or the flooding of the UK with Turkish migrants? (I eat at a Turkish cafe every day and generally think they're A-OK but I do think unrestricted immigration, as would happen under current EU rules, isn't in the UK's best interests.)
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So there.
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Howard, I would NEVER want harm to come to Britain or her citizens!
(Believe it or not, I don't think of the UK as being in the EUeeewwww!)
#46
When you think EU you deliberately don't think about EU but rather about whatever part of Europe it is that you hate. So that ofcourse makes the EU hateful to you.
Poland is a full member of the EU -- deal with it. And Italy is not "one foot in, the other out", she's inside the EU with not only both feet but its whole body.
You parade your biased ignorance as if it was a medal.
#47
now that was just a nasty comment, kinda like mine, huh, Aris? Poland and Italy are indeed full members, but as Jen said, "When I think".... So now you criticize thoughts. Thought crimes, coming to the EU nearest to you! ;-)
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I criticize stupidity and wanton ignorance, yes, which is far better than letting it go uncriticized. Is that considered bad form where you come from?
Kinda like *which* nasty comment of yours? There've been a number. But the main difference between us is that you tend to use your nasty personal comments when the other person is right and you are seeking an escape. I use them when they piss me off for being arrogantly stupid.
#49
Aris, I base my thinking on the EU on the concept of sovereignity, because none of the EU members have signed that AWFUL Constitution and surrendered their rights as sovereign nations--Thank God! (Horrors for you!).
France, Germany, Belgium and you and any other sheeple in the EU who act either as masters or their slaves already live in this Socialist mindset and superstate.
Right thinking 'Muricans hope and pray that the smarter countries like Britain, Poland and Italy will reject that EU Constitution and forget there ever was such a folly as the EU.
Nationalism=Good. EU=Soviet Union Lite+Evil.
Hope that helps.
#50
As the matter stands the EU constitution is not likely to pass. Probably the French will vote against it, too, and the Germans are claiming their right to a referendum (up to now not possible because of constitutional reasons).
Right now the EU is not able to speak with one, majoritarian political voice. 25 states are simply too much for that.
Let's give it another ten years. We definitely need some consolidation time. The EU is no folly, it's present state is highly debatable.
It needs a good deal of more democracy before it can go any further.
Turkey in the EU is a no starter. Everybody sees the elephant in the room here.
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OK by me provided it is preceded and followed by this announcement:
"I'm John Kerry and I approve this obnoxious propaganda message."
Besides who watches 'regular' tv that also votes?
#2
Don't undersetimate the impact on this trash. The FEC should ban it until AFTER the election. I would hope the GOP would also file a court injunction in that it violates campaign laws.
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I watched a bootleg DVD of this movie. I really don't think it will make a diffrence in the election, if it is indeed shown on TV. It's just preaching to the choir. The anti-war propoganda in this film could backfire for the Dems, though. Moore really goes out of his way to trash our soliders.
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According to a little snippet in the local paper, Moore is looking to submit his latest piece of trash for consideration of Best Picture. he said he wanted to be "supportive of my teammates in non-fiction film", and also added that he wanted to "give others a chance".
Wow. Guaranteed a win in the documentary category, were ya?
#7
The discussion's pretty ugly there now; I remember slashdot before it became the DU for perl script weenies
A few facts:
1) Microsoft's ASP is a direct copy of perl cgi programs, done under the BSD license.
2) I am a perl/postgresql script weeny, but I stopped meta-moderating because of the extreme leftwing bias prevelent in moderation.
Phil you are correct; slashdot is a collective of leftwingers. Go to slashdot and set your preferences to -1 (raw and uncut) nested for the comments and see just how many anti Mike Moose comments are moderated flamebait or some other adverse category. Slashdot's moderation system is totally borken, IMO, and I refuse to participate.
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Badanov: I perhaps should have been more clear; I didn't mean everyone who's ever messed around in perl.
However, it seems that slashdot in particular is full of people who have two years of college and have started to learn perl, and have concluded that they're WISER than everyone else and therefore entitled to run society.
They also don't realize that they have more free time than most of us out here in the real world with real jobs, and gleefully use their free time to rearrange the debate on slashdot at will. Of course, they live in their own little bubble, and don't realize that even in this country there are people with lives and opinions different from their own.
I am weary of both the editorial staff and the majority of participants there.
I think the point where they first jumped the shark was in the endless discussions following the Columbine shootings.
And keep in mind as you're reading all of this that I am user number 1277 there; the site is now up to 800,000 or so (?) registered users. And IMHO, it's become useless.
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I hope they give him best picture. It would make such a fine statement about the movie industry, the left and be a record for history just how stupid some of our friends and neighbors have been.
EFL The Navy launches an investigation into Kerry and we get this:
President Bush ranked in the middle of his Air National Guard flight class and flew 336 hours in a fighter jet before letting his pilot status lapse and missing a key readiness drill in 1972, according to his flight records belatedly uncovered Tuesday under the Freedom of Information Act.
So what? He wasn't in Texas in 1972: The records show his last flight came on April 1972, which is consistent with his pay records that show Bush had a large lapse of duty between April and October of that year, a time he says he went to Alabama to work on an unsuccessful Republican Senate campaign. Bush skipped a required medical exam that cost his pilot's status in August 1972.
The Pentagon and Bush's campaign have claimed for months that all records detailing his fighter pilot career have been made public, but defense officials said they found two dozen new records detailing his training and flight logs after The Associated Press filed a lawsuit and submitted new requests under the public records law. "Previous requests from other requesters for President Bush's Individual Flight Records did not lead to the discovery of these records because at the time President Bush left the service, flight records were subject to retention for only 24 months and we understood that neither the Air Force nor the Texas Air National Guard retained such records thereafter," the Pentagon told the AP. "Out of an abundance of caution," the government "searched a file that had been preserved in spite of this policy" and found the Bush records, the letter said. "The Department of Defense regrets this oversight during the previous search efforts."
The records only back up what Bush has been saying. He left Texas with permission and did his Guard time in Alabama. So he missed a few drill dates, in the Guard this is no big woop. You make up the time later, that's one of the reasons people stayed in the Guard, flexibility. It's not the active force where you have to be available for duty 24/7. Just go ask a Guard member.
Begala & Caraville didn't waste anytime did they?
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Good move! Drag this up for the ?tenth? time and see if the story still has legs. I doubt it. You can't prove something by nothing. If there isn't an official record of the "lapse" in guard service, that doesn't prove a lapse. It should prove that the LLL press claims of "AWOL" and "Desertion" are just wet dreams from the left. This won't last the 24-hour news cycle.
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Doesn't the NYT have stockholders to answer to? If I owned stock in these companies - I'd be dumping it pronto. They are about as valuable as National Horse and Buggy was 100 years ago.
I wish I knew how to capitalize on stock that is certain to move downward. There is a way. I could be RICH!!
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B: Selling short is what you're looking for. If the NYT were a public company Wall Street investors would have shorted it a long time ago (say around the time of Howell Raines/Jayson Blair).
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Of course, the interesting thing is that a drunk retard like Bush could place in the middle of his flight class. Guess it must have been all those family connections that kept him from crashing in a notoriously unforgiving airplane.
If this is the best the LLL can do on 9/8, they have basically raised the white flag. Wonder who they'll run in '08?
#6
Actaully the NYT is starting to sound like the National Inquirer.
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NYT is a public company. It's trading range for the last twelve months is 52wk Range:40.25 - 49.23. With a current price of $41 and a market cap of $6billion. It's price 5 years ago was about $39.
So, it's near it's 12 month low and the price has gone up 5% in 5 years. Not a stellar performance but the 10 mutual funds that own 60% of the stock must be crazy or supporting their political fantasies as opposed to their fundholders interest. FYI the funds are:
Price (T.Rowe) Associates
Barclays Bank Plc
State Street Corporation
A I M Management Group Inc.
Morgan Stanley
Massachusetts Financial Services Co - Other
Vanguard Group, Inc. (The)
Private Capital Management, Inc.
Mellon Bank, N.A.
American Century Investment Management Inc.
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Jonathan, for although more risky, buying put options is another good strategy (in this case, since the decline will likely be a long lived one, LEAPS)
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Hmm, I obviously heard wrong; I swore I read somewhere that the Sulzbergers controlled the NYT themselves. As for buying put options -- naw, I have a hard enough time dealing with the (embarassingly) modest investments I have.
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I was a Reserve Training Officer on a ship that was home-ported in Norfolk. For me the assignment was one of 10 to 20 collateral duties. I received no formal training on any aspect of the required administrative tasks that went with any of these sundry collateral hats I wore. While I was only the active duty liaison for Reservists that came to train on my ship (as well as all the Sea Cadets, Lawyers, VIP's...), I am sure that my records were not up to snuff. I cannot even fathom what type of administrative compliance there must have been for Reservists in the Texas Guard during the 70's.
Even several years after I retired from active duty in the mid 90's, I had to make a trip to Cleveland with my DD214 to prove to the Veterans Administration that I had actually been in the military at all. They had no record of my service.
I'm sure all the paperwork for all personnel getting out of the military is straight today, now that we have computerized records. [/sarcasm]
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The MSM is doing this to divert attention from their allies the baby-killing gang raping Islamics of he Russian School murders.
How many of your brothers died in the Twin Towers on 9/11/01? How many more would you like to see die in future attacks before John Kerry would actually respond? Is it more or less than 1? How many do you think John Kerry would accept? Considering his statement that future attacks will be responded to I have to think Kerry's number is > 1.
#5
I R A Union member and we can (and do) think for ourselves. Did you know that 40% of Union members are Republicans? This guy is probably a party hack or a Kerry staffer. I know this becuase only they get the union hats. Where as we rankand file types get only the T-Shirt.
#6
No so typical of the violent socialist types.
I am sure he will be seen in court. Enjoy the rest of your totally fucked up life caused by your union goon act. I hope someone goes out of their way to screw your ass over mister thug.
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Update: The heckler was one of the SBVFT so that is going to play well with Vets (NOT!). And he is filing suit for assault! Enjoy the ride downhill Johnny destination NOWHERE!
#10
Not that it matters to us so much, but the hand grabbing the guy's neck probably doesn't belong to the guy in yellow. Sometimes things are too obvious. If you zoom in you can see the hair on the top of the head of the guy who is probably actually doing the grabbing. No face. Sorry to play the defence lawyer.
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Michael L. Russell of Foster, Ky was the name of the heckler.
"You said you committed atrocities!"
That was about all he got to say before a union sheet metal worker sitting next to him got him in a headlock. Russell, a Teamster member who got an invitation through his union, tried to continue his speech, but 600 Kerry supporters shouted, "Ker-ry! Ker-ry! Ker-ry!" to drown him out.
Cincinnati police and U.S. Secret Service officers escorted Russell from the building. He was not arrested.
And he has been in the past a spokesman , as Sarge said, for SBVT. This fact may have helped in preventing his arrest.
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Cyber Sarge, I'm sure 40% of students in college are Republican as well, but all the teachers are for Kerry.
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Super Hose...I'm a college teacher and I'm a Republican and most definitely for Bush...of course, I think I'm one of very few or at least one who isn't ashamed or worried about getting harassed for saying I am.
The sad thing to me is that most of my students are declared democrats yet when we talk about social issues their beliefs follow more the republican platform. But don't tell them that. They'll swear up and down that is the democrat platform.
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Cyber-Sarge, As a Union Member do you think it is fair that mandatory union dues be given to the democrats (or republicians) of the opposite party then the member?
I dont mean to heckle or anything (I have a lot of respect for you) but really want to know how you feel about mandatory union dues (for example taken from a republician like yourself) being given to the democratic party.
As for this thread -- I wonder if the guy in yellow is a union member or a employee of the union.
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The Union I belong to SEIU allows me to choose that my dues do not go towards their PAC. My opinion is not islotated. When the Union hacks came back from the Statewide convention and announced the Union endorsed Kerry tou could have heard a pion drop. No ovation, no chants, dead silence. We have elections every two years and I bet that some of the old guard gets the heave-ho next time around.
In the mid 1960's thousands of young American men left their families, homes and jobs and went to fight for their country in Southeast Asia. These brave men went from their farms, factories and offices to the rice paddies of Vietnam to fight for freedom in what they believed was a patriotic and noble cause. Many of them never returned. Others were shot down and captured behind enemy lines. They were forced to suffer years of brutal treatment at the hands of the Communist captors.
Their horrifying days of darkness, starvation and torture were made worse by the actions of a young American Officer named John Kerry. As these American heroes suffered in inhuman conditions, John Kerry sat comfortably in the warm glow of television lights to tell a Senate Committee that these same men were 'war criminals'.
The story of these valiant POWs is compelling and powerful. Stolen Honor is THEIR story. It's the story the media won't tell you. It's the story John Kerry doesn't want you to hear. "Stolen Honor" investigates how John Kerry's actions during the Vietnam era impacted the treatment of American soldiers and POWs. Using John Kerry's own words, the documentary juxtaposes John Kerry's actions with the words of veterans who were still in Vietnam when John Kerry was leading the anti-war movement.
NRO's the Corner reports: "17 POWs whose accounts of the effects of his betrayal are depicted in a new documentary, Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal. The former POWs spent between 5 and 8 years in captivity and include two Medal of Honor winners. Each one has been awarded at least one silver star. The 45-minute documentary will be shown tomorrow morning in Washington, following a press conference with former Senate Majority Bob Dole and some of the former POWs. Clips from the documentary are available on the documentary's website, stolenhonor.com."
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Former President Jimmy Carter is accusing fellow Georgia Democrat Zell Miller of "unprecedented disloyalty" for the senator's speech at the Republican convention. In a letter sent over the weekend, Carter also called Miller's speech "rabid and mean-spirited." Don't remind anyone of how I sat next to Michael Moore during the Dem convention. That would shoot all kinds of holes in my argument.
"By now, there are many of us loyal Democrats who feel uncomfortable in seeing that you have chosen the rich over the poor, unilateral pre-emptive war over a strong nation united with others for peace, lies and obfuscation over the truth and the political technique of character assassination as a way to win elections or to garner a few moments of applause," Is he the one in the early stages of Alzheimer's?
Carter's office declined to release the letter Tuesday, but Miller's office confirmed the contents. Miller responded Tuesday by repeating his contention, made in the convention speech last week, that the security of his family outweighed any loyalty to the party where he has spent a lifetime. Enjoy a cheeseburger or two with Michael Moore. While you are at it, talk about the relevancy of your Nobel Peace Prize. Continued on Page 49
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Carter apparently places loyalty to Party above loyalty to the nation.
Not a really shocking revelation, is it?
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Carter was one of the WORST Presidents America has ever had to endure. Think there was a direct correlation between his horrible job as a Democratic President and 12 consecutive years or Republican Presidents? Which, by the way, would have streched even longer if Perot hadn't been the spoiler in the Bush/Clinton election.
He started to reshape his legacy with Habitat for Humanity (a noble cause). Then when he (IMHO, wrongly) won the Nobel Peace Prize. THAT went straight to his head. He then cock blocked Clinton in North Korea, then got snookered. The ego maniac then broke precedence with tradition to start bad mouthing a sitting President. (Clinton, not to be outdone jumped on the bandwagon shortly thereafter)
Now, the spineless bastard shows how shallow he really is and PROVES that the Democrats are loyal to THE PARTY first, then the country.
Zell Miller is an inspiration. He, McCain, and Lieberman are the only politicians that are willing to go against the party to do the right thing for the country.
Lastly, I saw an interview with Carter, who was TOTALLY out of his mind. Saying his 4 years were an example of statemanship bar none. What an idiot. Carter is just another good example of an Oxygen Thief(TM).
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Kerry is Carter Lite. With all due respect, Jimmy Carter always tries to balance his bad decisions with moral responsibility, with which one can agree or debate. John Kerry bases all his decisions on what makes John Kerry look good right now.
Notice that the letter was not released, which suggests to me that the Kerry machine would rather let the media mislead speculate on the actual content.
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98Zulu, I think you have your chronology wrong. Carter didn't get the noble price until Bush was President, the committee wanted to show their disdain for Bush and elevating Carter was the best way. He was cock-blocking Clinton before he got the prize.
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Carter probably bears more responsibility for the WoT than any other American. If he had dealt properly with Khomeini instead of being a LLL, the Arabs wouldn't have started drawing the worng conclusions about the U. S.
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Question: Who cares what Peanut Head Carter thinks?
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tu3031...I was active duty during the Carter administration and what I remember is not great. We were constantly without parts for the aircraft and having to cannonball (borrow) from other aircraft down for other problems. And I think it was during his administration that we were told we might not get paid one month because the budget had not been approved. Lots of sour airmen on that one. We did but at the last moment.
During the Iran situation we went on full alert (and not a drill) but everything was wishy-washy about what we were doing or what was going on. They'd put us on alert then take us down and then back up.
He definitely did not strengthen the military!! I for one was so happy when Reagan defeated him.
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Heh. Ol' Jimmuh sure do love those poor people. Lord knows, he created a whole lot of 'em.
From NRO - Kerry Spot: A CONNECTION THE KERRY CAMPAIGN WOULD PREFER WAS GLOSSED OVER
Tonight on CBS News' 60 Minutes II, Ben Barnes, a Democrat and the lieutenant governor of Texas in 1968, "will explain his role in securing for the 22-year-old Yale graduate Bush a coveted place in the state's Air National Guard." Ben Barnes has raised more than $500,000 for John Kerry's presidential campaign, according to no less a source than CBS News!
If one of Bush's top fundraisers - say, Robert Wood Johnson IV, Chair & CEO, Johnson Company and owner of the New York Jets, who has raised $380,437 for Bush - were one of the key witnesses of the Swift Boat Vets for Truth, what impact would that have on that group's credibility? Is Ben Barnes telling the truth, or is he just trying to guarantee a good return on his investment in John Kerry?
"I'll take partisan democrat for $500, Alex"
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His story has too many hole sin it to float. #1 Bush entered the guard in 1968, a full year before BB became Lt Gov. This guy is also a Kerry staff member. Did CBS apply for 527 status? They should!
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Well, Barnes was somebody in Texas politics before becoming Lt. Governor - he was apparently Speaker of the House in Texas at one time. Someone with influence, you know.
Nevertheless, this story is being sold with the half-lie that he was Lt. Governor at the time of Bush's entry into the ANG. Not too swift. And the fact that he's a Kerry moneyman is definitely a knife between the ribs of his credibility.
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More on Ben Barnes here:
Under Oath, Barnes Testified He Had No Contact With Bush Family Concerning National Guard. "Ben Barnes, then the speaker of the Texas House, said in 1999 that Sidney Adger, a Houston businessman and longtime friend of the Bush family whose son also won a slot in the 147th, had asked him to help get Mr. Bush into the Guard. Mr. Barnes, who acknowledged a role only after he was questioned under oath, also said that he had spoken to the head of the Texas Air National Guard on Mr. Bush's behalf, but had no contact with anyone in the Bush family. And there is no direct evidence that Mr. Bush's family pulled strings to get him into the 147th.
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What actually happened in 1968 is that a close family friend of the Bushes telephoned Ben Barnes, then the speaker of the Texas House...This friend told Barnes that Congressman Bush's son needed a spot in the Texas Air National Guard. Barnes called the general in charge of the Texas Air National Guard, Brigadier General James Rose, and recommended George W. for a pilot position.
From Shrub: The Short but Happy Political Life of George W. Bush by Molly Ivins and Lou Dubose, 2000, Random House, New York.
This is on page 4 of this book, which, as you'll note, was published in 2000. Barnes testified under oath about this because he was subpoenaed in a civil trial in 1999. Y'see, by this time Barnes was "top lobbyist" for GTECH, a private company which runs the Texas State Lottery. The plaintiff was the former executive director of the lottery, who alleged Barnes had arranged with (then Gov.) Bush to have him fired, and this was a quid pro quo for keeping quiet about how Bush got into the TANG thirty years before.
The book goes on to say It's a story with more subplots than a Mexican telenovela... No kidding. Look, folks, by the time that you get to alleging that so-and-so knew somebody-or-other who may have spoken to someone-else about something thirty years before, your story's pretty much dead as a mackerel.
Oh, and the denouement to this story? There ain't one. The trail, such as it is, stops cold. Feller named Sid Adger, who could have spilled everything, had conveniently died in 1996, just three years before the civil trial. I question the timing...
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You know, now that I think about it, what's really funny about this story is that (if it's true) the Democrat Texas Speaker helped a Republican Congressman get his son a safe berth (if it was) in the TANG, along with (the book says) the sons of Lloyd "Democrat" Bentsen and John "Democrat" Connally and several black members of the Dallas Cowboys (who no doubt vote Democrat now).
So what is the lesson here?
1) The Democrats are every bit as corrupt of the Republicans.
2) Them rich people take care of their own (and their football team).
3) Bush got out of Vietnam!
If I were John "Rich Democrat" Kerry, I don't think I'd count on that last lesson to be the one to sink in.
In my book, that's reason enough to vote for Bush.
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And we should care about this . . . why?
I can just see the Scrappleface or Onion headline now: U.N. & KERRY CHALLENGE BUSH VICTORY; CLAIM REST OF WORLD WANTED KERRY TO WIN.
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WOW! I am changing my vote to.....BUSH! I was going to vote for Kerry before I wasn't. If France, Spain, or the UN don't like it they can come here and kiss my @$$. I bet this will really play well in the heartland!
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Yeah, I always did think they liked us better when they could just take our money and shit all over us with no repercussions.
Kerry will once again make that possible.
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The most negative attitude toward the U.S. came from France, Germany and Mexico, where roughly 80 percent of those surveyed thought that the foreign policies of President Bush had made them feel worse about the United States...
MEXICO? What the...? If they feel this way about Bush even though he's bending over for Vincente over immigration, then screw em, there's no reason not to send every last one of them, sick or not, pregnant or not, back across the border.
Another pattern that became apparent in studying the data was that those people with higher education and more income were more strongly in favor of Kerry, Kull said.
Sure. They're no dummies. They know a handout man when they see him. "Keep in mind that most people probably know very little about John Kerry," Kull said.
Keep in mind that most people probably know very little about George Bush other than what the MSM spoon feeds them.
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Personally, I will be voting for a candidate for the office of the President of the United States of America, not the Grand Poobah of the Planet. As far as I can tell, only one candidate this election year can tell the difference.
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If the UNiks get their way for world government, Seafarious, we will never get to vote for the Grand Poobah of the Planet. He/she/it will be selected by the Regional Governors, who will be selected by the District Governors (former nations) who may or may not be elected by a vote of the people, or may be selected by the state governors.
We are the world. We are the Children.
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You know Ranterâs? I have thought this through and I think we are being entirely too selfish. If the rest of the world wants Kerry then they can have him. I suspect he will be available sometime after November 2, 2004.
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fine. Learn English, pay taxes and petition for admission to the union. Then you can make noise about who and what you want. Until then perch on it.
Was Dem presidential hopeful John Kerry seen this weekend waving a gun which would have been banned if legislation he co-sponsored became law? Kerry co-sponsored S. 1431 last year ("The Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003) which would have banned a "semiautomatic shotgun that has a pistol grip." Opponents of the bill successfully argued how nearly all guns have "pistol grips," inluding millions of Browning Auto-5 shotguns produced since 1903. Photos show Kerry's hand resting on the "pistol grip," as loosely defined in the bill. [Section SEC. 2; (H) (ii) and (b)(42): "The term 'pistol grip' means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip."]
Kerry was presented with the semiautomatic shotgun during a Labor Day stop in Racine, West Virginia. "I thank you for the gift, but I can't take it to the debate with me," Kerry told a cheering crowd as he held up the device. But Kerry's gun bill would have also banned any "gift" transaction!
[It is not clear if Kerry completed the required paperwork (Form 4473) before he claimed the gun.]
Developing...
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"The term âpistol gripâ means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip."
Yeah, they tried to slip that one in when they thought no one was looking. Saying one thing, but giving the gun-grabbers a definition loose enough to ban pretty much anything they wanted to.
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[It is not clear if Kerry completed the required paperwork (Form 4473) before he claimed the gun.]
Kerry's got such a problem with simple forms, doesn't he?
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I think the point was made on the radio yesterday: what if Bush had made the same statement about bringing a gun to the debate. Do you think there would have been more coverage in the MSM?
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It'd get 24/7 on EVERY broadcast and cable network. For months. And we'd hear nothing BUT coverage about the statement.
(We'd still hear about Abu Ghraib, of course...)
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This time its Winter Soldier, not the Swifties. The below is from a sworn affidavit.
8. During the Winter Soldier Investigation, John Kerry and other leaders of that event pressured me to testify about American war crimes, despite my repeated statements that I could not honestly do so. One event leader strongly implied that I would not be provided transportation back to my home in Baltimore, Maryland, if I failed to comply. Kerry and other leaders of the event instructed me to publicly state that I had witnessed incidents of rape, brutality, atrocities and racism, knowing that such statements would necessarily be untrue.
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Here's more for the duplicity of Kerry and VVAW (another part of his sworn affidavit):
In April 1971, I attended a VVAW protest in Washington D.C. known as âDewey Canyon III.â During this event I was present when protestors, including John Kerry, threw medals and ribbons over a fence outside the U.S. Capitol. I witnessed a man holding a bag of ribbons and medals and handing them out to other protestors. I saw that many of the ribbons and medals were not those that would be received by veterans of combat in Vietnam.
It's one of the things that annoys me most about the more hardcore conspiracy theorists: they won't come out and SAY anything they'll have to defend. They just hint, and disproving all the hints isn't enough to disprove the hinted theory; it's a very clever rhetorical trick.
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Another observation I'd like to make is that their facts aren't meant to be links in a chain of deductive or inductive logic: they're meant to work on an emotional response instead, and they rely on the emotional response continuing against all reason, even after most of the links have been shown to be false or cut away.
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Congrats TGA! Youdaman!
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09/08/2004 9:05 Comments ||
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AMEN TGA! This goes directly to the "Bush was AWOL" conspiracy. Bush has records that he was in and attended Guard drills, but he can't account for every moment of his time. He has payrecords that show service, but there are gaps in training. If you had never served with a guard unit you would have to rationalize theat this represents AWOL. Also since he missed his physical, there had to be some reason (possibly drugs) why he missed that particular physical. There are many RATIONAL reasons for there to be a gap in (documenting) drills and missing a flight physical. However the conspiracy crowd needs to take the most damaging rational and run with it.
Please say you're coming to America to observe the "observers" during the election. And that you'll be coming through Richmond. :-p
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The Kerry campaign strategy invokes the image of a really, really, fat girl saying she should be prom queen cause her size 8 opponent's butt is too big.
And though it resonates with those who are jealous of the potential prom queen - Fatty Patty is ultimately campaigning against herself.
Ya'd think that she might try the "but I have a better personality approach" - but since her personality sucks..it's the best that Fatty Patty can do can keep herself alive in the race.
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Have they already launched the "November 1971/Kansas City" torpedo? Living in Illinois (amongst the bluest of blue states) I don't get to see much in the way of advertising.
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More allies? From where? How?
How long would it have taken? How long was he planning to allow Saddam to flout the 14 UN resolutions?
How long was he willing to allow the butchery of Iraq's people to go on?
How long was he willing to retain the sanctions that Saddam was allowin to starve the people of Iraq?
How long was he willing to allow the French to rob the people of Iraq blind in the Oil for Palaces graft program?
How long was he planning to wait and allow Saddam to pay $25K to suicide bombers in Israel?
How would he have fought the war differently?
Kerry reminds me of an obnoxious richie-rich little league bench-riding prick who claims he can do it all better in order to try to pull down the poorer kid who is the starte, but has no ability when confronted with having to make the play on the field or hit when at bat (and then blames the coach, his bat, his glove and the "sun was in my eyes", etc). And his obnoxious old man (the press) is there bellowing at the coach to get his son in the game.
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"How would he have fought the war differently?"
Good question. Since Tommy Franks has taken responsibility for the overall warfighting strategy, and since it's clear that tactical decisions (e.g., the Thunder Runs, the Marine assault into Baghdad) originated with the commanders on the scene, I suppose you have to infer that Kerry would have (1) overridden Franks or replaced him, even though Franks had just demonstrated his command ability in the campaign against the Taliban, and/or(2)interfered from the White House with field-level tactical decisions.
So basically Kerry would have refought Vietnam.
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So basically Kerry would have refought Vietnam.
I'm sure he knows a hotel in Paris where he could hold peace talks.
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I should add that it would only be fair for Kerry to build into his statement about fighting the war differently the assumption that he had successfully opposed all of the weapons procurement he voted against as list by Zell Miller in The Speech. "And then I would have ordered the First Spitball Deployment Brigade to approach Baghdad from the south. In a sensitive way, of course."
Also, I wonder how having a hypothetical Franco-German division along in the drive to Baghdad would have actually affected operations. The Brits and Aussies were positive contributors, to say the least, because they fight hard and, literally, speak the same language. How many operational orders would the French government have phoned in to Saddam?
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Kerry would be Carter with a New England accent and a really rich wife.
The dissident LTTE group, led by Karuna, on Wednesday over-ran a post of the mainstream LTTE in Pullimalai located in a LTTE - held area in Batticalao district, and killed three LTTE cadres, a military official told Hindustan Times.
A little LTTE on LTTE action, whose turn to make popcorn?
The official said that four to five other cadres were injured. The mini camp is believed to have housed about 15 LTTE cadres. The attack is significant in as much as it had taken place within a LTTE-controlled area and not in a government troops controlled area. It shows that the LTTE's defences can be punctured. It is part of the series of killings that is taking place in Batticaloa district and Colombo involving the Prabhakaran and Karuna factions. They are on a war of attrition.
Excellent, the more attrition, the better.
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Someone should bitchslap this c*cksmoker. Or perhaps someone should notify the Secret Service.
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I've got 3 words for this loser:
Pa-the-tic.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
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Abject desperation from the LLL/pop-culture media empire.
They bet on the commies and lost. More recently they sold their dhimmi asses to the Islamofascists, and they are getting nothing in return. In five years they'll be living under bridges and begging for spare change outside porn theaters.
Kerry is going to drag them all down with him.
The ghosts of FDR, Sam Rayburn, and Harry Truman wait in the wings, conjured up Zell Miller.
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Nada--That's exactly what I thought when I heard this! Remember when the Apollo 11 astronauts were put in that quarantine capsule after returning from the moon--and Nixon was outside the capsule greeting them?
Nice job, guys! Feel free to take more of my tax money and waste it!
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a parachute that was to slow its fall failed to deploy
"Roberts, did you pack the chute like I told you to?"
"Sure, boss, it's right here. Why?"
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Dar -- I remember seeing footage of the Apollo mission and the quarantine, and I also remember all the worry warts talking about not bringing back any samples from Mars. I think it's a legit worry, but man, we've become a risk averse society.
I love this kind of stuff, so it's tragic they potentially lost $260Million worth of time and samples. At least the Mars Rovers are working well.
Here's a link with some video footage. Kinda humorous listening to the MSNBC reporter. Kept talking about, "Yeah, now the first parachute deployed. Okay, here's the second one," and the people in the newsroom are saying they don't see anything but a tumbling silver thing. Isn't MSNBC the ones who got Martha Stewart's trial results all screwed up, too?
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BigEd -- been watching the hurricanes the last week or so, and didn't realize about mars. kinda far away. did you watch the video link? the scrap metal also had a little fire going in it, too.
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This spacecraft had one of the longest lives in space of any "collect and bring back" mission IIRC. There's a lot that goes into firing the chute releases ... if the metal weathered a little too much, it could cause this sort of misfire.
Later missions had a little different design, I'm told ....
Maoists attacked a party meeting of their former ally Janamorcha Nepal injuring its 24 members, including five central leaders in Dullu village in Nepal's Dailekh district. Party General Secretary and former Parliament member Navaraj Subedi was among those injured in the attack by a group of 150 Maoists, said sources in Janmorcha Nepal, a communist faction which was once a close ally of Communist part of Nepal-Maoists. The condition of Yamuna Bhushal, central member of the party, who sustained injuries, is said to be serious. The party had earned the ire of Maoists for organising programmes to "expose" the rebel's "anti-people" activities.
"Who you calling "anti-people"? BANG!
The Maoists used Khukuri (knife), stones, batons and guns while attacking the party workers and looted their belongings, the party sources said.
And a fun time was had by all.
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More red-on-red action.
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I guess you can't be communist enough to some people either...
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