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Arabia
Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?
Abdullah Al-Mutairi • Al-Watan
In the shop next to my house, there is a home delivery service which is run by an Indian. He is a good man, hardworking and devoted to his job. I talk to him whenever he delivers something to my house and he talks to me about the time he spent working in Abu Dhabi and of his dream to live in London. Last week I asked him to deliver a newspaper to my house. When he delivered it to me, he asked me whether I wrote in it. I told him that I did and he asked me to write about why young Saudis hate foreign workers, particularly Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. He asked, “Why do they throw rocks at us when they see us in the street?” He said that in India they were taught to love others because that is the teaching of the Prophet Muhammad (PTUI peace be upon him). I was moved by his words and promised him that I would write on the subject.
You could write a book on the subject. I'd suggest starting with the theme of tribalism evolving into a peculiarly Arabian form of racism born of xenophobia. I'd imagine the Indian was happier in Abu Dhabi, since the Gulf Arabs are more cosmopolitan than the sand Arabs, but still not ecstatic, since Soddy Arabia exports more than oil. The peculiar arrogance of the Arabs has come to be something of a cultural characteristic, with the fixation on everybody being a supervisor and the manual labor being done by the expats. Societies that are xenophobic generally aren't convinced of their own superiority, but are instead afraid that the foreigners' culture is actually superior to their own, which is why they need to keep it at arms' length — or conquer it.
I took his question to my students and started a discussion in class. The students agreed that they had harassed foreigners, particularly South Asians, in the street. One said that seeing a worker in the street was a perfect chance for them to beat him up and then run away. Some admitted searching for foreign workers to beat up, throw eggs at and generally abuse. I asked my students why they behaved in this way, what was the reason. Some said it was just fun, nothing more or less. Some said it was because those people were weak and unable to fight back. Some said that their favorite pastime was to catch cats, kill them and skin them. I was shocked and disturbed by all this violence and wondered what was causing it.
He's describing a society of sadists. I don't know how representative his students are, but in the civilized world they'd be regarded as socially retarded.
The classroom discussion ended but my questions would not go away. Is this violence only committed by children or can we see it at other levels in other forms? How do older people deal with foreign workers? Do the workers feel that we respect them? Sadly, the rude and sarcastic way we often refer to them sprang to my mind. Can such relationships be called humane? Are they based on equality? Are they in keeping with the tenets of Islam?
They're in keeping with the Arab conviction that they're a master race. Islam purports to accept everyone as equal who bonks his head five times a day, but in practice, as we've seen, it's enamored of violence, glorifies violence, and indulges its violent streak on whoever's available. If there aren't any infidels nearby, Shias will do. If only Sunnis are to be found, then the non-Arabs are convenient targets. If there aren't any non-Arabs around, then the Gulf Arabs are in trouble. And if there aren't any Gulf Arabs around, then it's tribe against tribe.
Do we adult Saudis who sponsor and employ foreigners fulfill the conditions of their contracts — which both we and they have signed? How many housemaids never get a day off? I remember a worker in the school where I work who was on the job every day and who had not been paid for six months. I remember another unpaid worker who asked humbly and politely for his dues and received nothing but curses and insults. It seems to me that our children’s violent behavior has its origins and roots in the behavior and attitudes of adults. My Indian friend’s question should have thus been directed toward all ages and not just at the young.
Actually, he took it in the right order. The adults he's describing are the children he described, only grown up. The attitudes are imbibed from the earliest age.
Are these things related to education? Can we blame this shameful behavior on a lack of education? The answer came all too quickly to my head. I remembered one of my colleagues, a teacher who belongs to a certain tribe. He believes that a student lacking a tribal name is a man with no roots and hence of no importance.
It's not just education, though the education they receive reflects the culture. Rather, the problem lies with the culture itself.
Then I remembered a preacher who visited the school after 9/11 and warned the students against dealing with non-Muslims. I also remember a sheikh in a mosque who would not allow a foreigner to pray next to him — simply because the man was not Saudi. It is not difficult to come up with examples of our relations with people in our country who belong to different religions and cultures. And I will not discuss our own relations with other Saudis. Many of us will not allow our daughters to marry someone just because he is from a certain place or because, for some reason, we look down on him.
It's that tribal thing I mentioned earlier. Within the tribe itself, there are clans and families...
Behind all these examples are beliefs and thoughts toward “others” which glorify us and our egos and degrade them and theirs. Such a situation is fertile ground for the idea of hate and infertile ground for the idea of love. Those brought up to love people will not throw rocks at them and curse them. Those brought up to love people will not degrade those who are different from them? Where is love in our lives?
Arab love itself is a different creature entirely from the Western concept. While romantic love does exist, there is a persistent religious and culturally-based denial of it.
Has it given way to hate?
Is it hatred, or is it the simple denial of the humanity of anyone not a member of the clan?
What answer can I give my Indian friend? Is he going to understand that it will take a long time to change this culture of hate? I do not think that it will be easy since so many of us do not want to and so many believe they are unique and the best in the world.
That's the misplaced arrogance I was talking about earlier.
I remember when I was in England last summer, arriving at the front door of the house where I was staying. I saw a little girl standing outside the house next to mine. I wondered if she would curse me or throw stones at me or whether she would just look away in disgust. Instead, she carried on watering the flowers in the small garden; then she looked up and waved at me, with a big smile on her face. Could that have happened here?
Posted by: john || 04/03/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Probably persistent acid reflux in combination with non-muslims breathing and stuff.
Posted by: Phosh Uneath3161 || 04/03/2006 2:06 Comments || Top||

#2  While not to argue it never happens, I personally have never observed any of this alleged sort of widespread behaviors or attitudes in America or England.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/03/2006 2:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Those people who skin cats, throw stones at strangers, rape their housemaids and don't pay their dues to their servants (1) who according to the haddiths are the best of Muslims (and of men of course).

(1) Since that is in fact stealing anyone wondering why those Saudis are not amputated?
Posted by: JFM || 04/03/2006 9:24 Comments || Top||

#4  I should import some Saudi teens to kill and skin the ferrule cats around my place. Just a summer job, but they may want to get out of the desert.
Posted by: wxjames || 04/03/2006 9:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Shoud have read

Those people who skin cats, throw stones at strangers (even Muslims), rape their housemaids and don't pay their dues to their servants (1) are those people who according to the haddiths are the best of Muslims (and of men of course).

(1) Since that is in fact stealing anyone wondering why those Saudis are not amputated?
Posted by: JFM || 04/03/2006 10:43 Comments || Top||

#6  (1) Since that is in fact stealing anyone wondering why those Saudis are not amputated?

Because the Saudi law against slavery is, at best, an empty gesture meant to appears the rest of the world.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/03/2006 11:01 Comments || Top||

#7  Hey Joseph - You Okay?
NO CAPS > A.C.R.O.N.Y.M.S. = NoSymbols OWG==NewMedication???

Posted by: Admiral Allan Ackbar || 04/03/2006 12:18 Comments || Top||

#8  I happen to like cats, I catch anyone skinning a cat and he won't live another 5 minutes.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 04/03/2006 13:30 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm impressed that a Saudi wrote this and that Arab News printed it. It generally limits the scope of the problem to foreign muslims but the picture is bigger than that and I think most readers will make the connection to non-Muslims (the bit at the end about the little girl helps there) without being affronted too badly that they simply ignore.

I applaud the attempt at lest, for all the good it'll do. I think the violent members of the herd still require significant culling before Arabia stops seething and reforms.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 04/03/2006 13:36 Comments || Top||

#10  hmm... I posted this article to a UK based forum and now the forum has no content.

If I was conspiricy minded I would think it touched a raw nerve.

I am not so I think they just had a database crash.

Posted by: 3dc || 04/03/2006 13:38 Comments || Top||

#11  If you feed it, it will grow.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 04/03/2006 18:54 Comments || Top||

#12  Between the statue thing in Egypt and this piece and a couple of other outspoken muslims on the same topic (see MEMRI for these - too many to link), I'm thinking some muslims have figured out Step 1. Bravo - keep thinking guys and maybe Step 1 will lead to Step 2. The beginning of rational thought?
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 04/03/2006 19:56 Comments || Top||

#13  lame ass culture inherits incredible oil wealth by geographical acident and that makes them the master race, huh? 7th Century bass ackward inbred idjits. I think they refuse to look in the mirror cuz it'll scare the bejesus outta them how little they actually have going for them. Wait'll the oil's gone, Gomer
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 20:10 Comments || Top||

#14  :-) meow loser
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 22:36 Comments || Top||

#15  is this the same thin-skinned whiner from yesterday?
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 22:58 Comments || Top||

#16  I thought comment #1 was clever and funny. Am I missing something?
Posted by: ex-lib || 04/03/2006 23:32 Comments || Top||

#17  What's LTDs all about? He sounds kind of mental. Haven't been here for awhile. Thanks.
Posted by: ex-lib || 04/03/2006 23:34 Comments || Top||

#18  Listen to Dogs, Frank is actually a certified engineer. Braindead he isn't. What's your degree, sirrah?
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/03/2006 23:41 Comments || Top||

#19  Listen to Dogs likes to point out that other people aren't following the rules he intuited, ex-lib. Mostly he fights with .com... or those he thinks is .com being anonymous. *shrug* I guess he went too far when he attacked Frank G. for no apparent reason.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/03/2006 23:44 Comments || Top||

#20  Check out the SinkTrap.

Mods, since this is a home IP at Shaw Cable, you should notify their abuse email.

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Posted by: Glosing Hupesh7946 || 04/03/2006 23:46 Comments || Top||

#21  no redeeming qualities?
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 23:52 Comments || Top||

#22  Mods? Deodorizer needed in the sinktrap....yikes!
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 23:55 Comments || Top||

#23  The problem is: Wahabism. They have supremacist attitudes to both disbelievers and Muslims. Blacks are universally referred to as "slaves" ("abds") in the Saud terrorist entity. In 1998, the US Congress reported Saud financing of over 80% of US mosques. Sauds pay; local jihadis play.
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 04/03/2006 2:32 Comments || Top||

#24  FrankG:
Who do we blame for your gutter language? Were your parents back-woods pigs like you? Why don't you stick to the SciFi forums like other security guards? Give everyone her a heart-attack by actually posting an article. It will show us that you can read, Bubba.
For the intelligent, see this post on yet another trial of an abandoner of Islam. Time to put Islam and the WOT cock-roach class who dhimmi up to Muslims, on trial:
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/4/4/courts/13856498&sec=courts

How many open-minded, WOT-abaters will actually read this? Will .com end his adult tantrum and come back here under his own name, to puke up Hanritty's daily comments?
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 04/03/2006 22:31 Comments || Top||

#25  Do you carry a big Maglite, Bubba? Or are you handicapped like Robert Crawford? Why don't you run a similar lame website for dirt-for-brains ill-breds like yourself.

If you want to jump off a bridge, I'll give you cab fare to get there you walking slum.
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 04/03/2006 22:52 Comments || Top||

#26  I recall throwing "whiner" at Cock-Sucker #1. Where is the tantrum boy faggot?

How many people who matter actually read these threads? No more than 2 dozen glances. You actually give a fuck about getting the boot out of here. If you want to join something big, try death. That forum is full of good for fertilizer pigs like you.
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 04/03/2006 23:10 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Retired General: "crucial time in the nation"
Posted by: lotp || 04/03/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When has there not been a crucial time in the nation? Other than that afternoon in 1832, I mean.
Posted by: Fred || 04/03/2006 0:09 Comments || Top||

#2  The link at the Daily Times isn't working.

Fred, the last time I checked, their nation didn't even start until 1947 or so...
Posted by: Phil || 04/03/2006 0:17 Comments || Top||

#3  I just checked the link... it was a paper in TN. Sorry.
Posted by: Phil || 04/03/2006 1:29 Comments || Top||

#4  book:
Shadow Warriors: Inside the Special Forces. Tom Clancy with Gen. Carl Stiner, U.S. Army retired, and Tony Koltz. Putnam's Sons, 548 pages; appendices; bibliography; index; $29.95.
Reviewed by Gen. Frederick J. Kroesen, U.S. Army retired
Posted by: RD || 04/03/2006 1:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Optimism means 140,000 US troops backed by Carrier groups and rapid deployment forces,

Pessimism means 140,000 US troops backed by Carrier groups, rapid deployment forces and USS Jimmy Carter
Posted by: JFM || 04/03/2006 9:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Optimism means 140,000 US troops backed by Carrier groups and rapid deployment forces, close to everything pre-emptible. Pre-emption (Bush Doctrine) is another positive.
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 04/03/2006 2:52 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
The Real Culprit in Our Worldwide Image Problem
JAMES LILEKS
SecDef Rumsfeld, speaking before the Army War College the other day, graded the way the United States made its case to the world on the war against Islamists. "D plus," he said. "Maybe a D."

He's right. And it's worse than he thinks. Despite the beliefs of some that the Bush team pumps out doublespeak propaganda 24/7 via Fox News mind-control rays, the administration has been unable to persuade millions of Americans that death-cult totalitarians are an existential threat to the civilized world. You'd think the case would be self-explanatory, no? Us equals democracy, whiskey, sexy, as a liberated fellow once summed it up. Them equals theocracy, blood, the burqa. Everyone clear?

Apparently not. It doesn't help that the most vocal and famous elements of the left appear less concerned about the peril posed by the raving nutters, and think Bushies have embarked on some strange, inexplicable crusade to be mean to everyone who doesn't fall down Sunday morning and speak in tongues.

American actors like Gary Busey and Billy Zane appear in anti-U.S. movies for Turkish audiences; piercing intellects like George Clooney spend their time reminding us how the corpse of Joe McCarthy is the real threat to democracy; Western "peace" activists rescued by Spec-Ops from a sword-assisted skull removal couldn't bring themselves to thank the troops, lest anyone suspect that guns might be occasionally useful after all.

You'd call them useful idiots, but it's hard to see the "useful" part.

Most telling event: Yale admits a Taliban spokesman to study in the name of understanding his cultural perspective. The military can't recruit on campus because it discriminates against gays, of course.

But you want to talk about Brokeback Mountain? It's when the government pushes a stone wall on you for being gay. If our institutions of higher learning lack the intellectual courage to tell a Taliban mouthpiece to get lost, how can we expect the rest of the smart set to make the case for the West?

Divided we may be, but that hasn't always stopped liberal democracies from presenting a united front. In World War II the left was squarely behind Hitler-whupping, because they hated fascists, and because -- whew! -- Uncle Joe got on the right side of that issue in the end. But the hard fuming left was a marginal element in the larger culture; isolationism on the right was perhaps a larger force. It, too, came around.

Both recognized that America, for all its flaws, was something worth defending, particularly since the alternative was an illiberal nightmare. If anyone suggested that America lacked the moral standing to face off with Adolf because some drinking fountains in the South were off limits to "Coloreds," they got a hard look and rolled eyes. Look, pal, we'll fix America after we've saved it.

That sentiment now seems rather antique.

We have an ill-timed failure of confidence in the West, just when we need to assert what sets us apart from the bloody run of human history. Old Europe has a bad case of clay feet and gives constant examples where this sort of cultural timidity leads. In his heart the average Frenchman believes his values have more to offer the world than those of an Algerian village, but he can't say so. He's paralyzed by the official dogma of cultural egalitarianism. No one believes it, but they're better people for pretending they do.

If an excitable imam of a smoldering Paris suburb demanded the use of Notre Dame to call the faithful to prayer, you suspect the French would deconsecrate the place and turn it into a dance club. (As long as no one's happy, everyone must be satisfied.) They will sell themselves the rope with which they are hanged, and console themselves with the fact that it's made of organic hemp.

And how would you grade their ability to convince the enemy they had no faith in their own civilization? A, no doubt. A plus.
Posted by: Steve || 04/03/2006 10:54 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The religion of "sword-assisted skull removal"!
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 04/03/2006 18:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Remember Curtis LeMay
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/03/2006 22:26 Comments || Top||

#3  I believe most Americans and Rightists for the want the Rogues to end up like postWW2 Germany and Japan - the Left, however, has no probs with the GOP-Right taking the lead in the WOT as long as the GOP-RIght [and democratic America] loses in the end. i.e. America either "volunteers" to give up its sovereignty and endowments, or else is militarily forced to, and be ruled by a coalition of world states that wierdly and mysteriously ends up being dominated by Russia-China, aka Commie Asia, aka Mackinder's World Island. THE LEFT > WAR IS SOCIALISM, EMPIRE IS SOCIALISM. AMERICA CANNOT RULE ITS OWN EMPIRE NOR EVEN HAVE ITS OWN BRAND OF "SOCIALISM" - just as the Clinton-led Dems may be POTUSES becuz they, NOT Dubya andor the GOP, survived "Amer Hiroshima(s)", ASIA = ASIANISM/ORIENTALISM and Communism will rule becuz democratic sovereign America no longer exists. The Commies and Totalitarianists win by default = by force = by necessity, at no costs or at minima costs to Russia-China, as the greatest single/ultimate threat to free America is from within, our society and NPE, notsomuch from the outside. i.e. wars on foreign soil(s). THE FLIP-FLOP DIALECTIC POLICRATIC LEFTIES STAND FOR EVERYONE AND NO ONE, EVERTHING AND NOTHING - in their Holocaust-happy, Regulation-happy, Universal Policratic/Governmentist, Perfectionist Totalitarian Utopian world, "FASCISM" in any form ultimately leads to [LEFT-BASED]COMMUNISM, since MARXISM-LENINISM teaches that "the REVOLUTION/
FINAL CONFLICT" for Proletarian Utopia WILL COME FROM THE RIGHT. And now you another reason why the seemingly agenda-less DemoLeft are RINOS and CINOS, and why Mother Cindy, when she calls for "occupied NOLA" and by extens "occupied America = Amerika" to be liberated/saved from Dubya, is in reality calling for a Stalin-style PURGE of COMMUNIST-LEFTSOCIALIST AMERIKA's FASCIST MINORITY FROM THE COMMIE-LEFTSOCS MAJORITY. By using the label "FASCIST", etc against Dubya and the GOP, the Dems are indirectly belabeling America as a SOCIALIST NATION, NOT A WESTERN OR DEMOCRATIC CAPITALIST ONE - like the true-blue, John Wayne-style, mano-o-mano pols they are, the Dems don't call themselves COMMUNISTS, i.e. the logical or normal ideo antithesis to FASCISTS, BUT INSTEAD BELABEL THEMSELVES, IN FEEL-GOOD, SUPER-PC MANNER, AS "ANTI-FASCISTS" OR ANTI-FAR RIGHT/
CONSERVATIVES, espec the former. True Rightists are not afraid to tell the truth, even iff in the end its conclusions are wrong/problematic, Lefties are! Lefties have no probs deceiving or killing you, etc. as long as they don't get the blame for anything.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/03/2006 23:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Our problem is: our leaders want Islamofascists to give up arms and seek electoral solutions, notwithstanding the fact that the enemy has been doing that since Maududi (Pakistan founder of Jamaat-i-Islami) fatwahed for same as a tactical means to achieve strategic annihilation of democracy. Take away the dhimmi-prop and al-Taqiyah and Muslims cede all sovereignty to their fictitious deity. By including Islamofascists in our democracy solution, their refusal to participate is not morally wrong; it is incorrect. We need to end all respect for what Muslim believe, and start telling them what to think. Once our (or their) dhimmi class is out of the way, we will act as superiors and Muslims will be treated as inferior savages.
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 04/03/2006 19:17 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Gerecht: Can the Shiite Center Hold?
EFL. WSJ.
The various, often mutually hostile, Shiite parties, are likely to plow ahead, however fitfully, to some political deal with the Sunnis and the Kurds, who both now know that the Shiites will no longer passively watch their women and children slaughtered and their holy sites desecrated. Sunni and Kurdish fear of Shiite power--a fickle but growing alliance between Sunni Arabs and Kurds was inevitable--is politically overdue and healthy for all concerned. This is a tightrope act, but the Sunni Arabs must internalize the fact that they cannot leverage the insurgency into power. If they continue to try, they will only convert Shiite "sheep" (the traditional Arab Sunni view of Arab Shiites) into rampant "lions," unstoppable by even the most revered, peace-promoting divines.

And what is most likely to curtail the violence is the U.S. military--not political dialogue among the Sunni and Shiite Arabs and Kurds. Dialogue is important--the all-critical, viscerally anti-U.S. and seriously anti-Shiite Sunni Clerics Association is slowly moving toward reconciliation with a Shiite-led Iraq. But only the U.S. military has the capacity, as recently shown in Tal Afar and brilliantly reported by The New Republic's Lawrence Kaplan, to secure territory against insurgents and holy warriors. The successful operation in Tal Afar is a blatant negation of Gen. John Abizaid's "light footprint" strategy that views large numbers of U.S. soldiers as part of the problem, not the overwhelming part of a counterinsurgency solution. The current approach to counterinsurgency--transfer responsibility to the Iraqis as quickly as possible--will seriously stress Iraq's ethnic and religious divisions, perhaps to the breaking point. Do we really want Shiite and Kurdish soldiers taking the lead in killing Sunnis? Unless heavily monitored by Americans for the foreseeable future, these soldiers could well utilize Algerian-style tactics against the Sunni Arabs. It is astonishing that Shiites have not unleashed more vengeance against their former Sunni Baathist masters and current Sunni tormentors.

It is no coincidence that Shiite militias have grown more powerful and more aggressive as U.S. forces have increasingly adopted an Iraqi-centered strategy. Such an approach will not, anytime soon, curtail Sunni attacks. Counterinsurgency warfare is the last thing you'd expect a newly minted army to undertake. Shiite militias, incorporated within the government and outside it, will not be inclined to stand down: They will react even more harshly to continuing attacks on their community. The Iraqification program has actually started to fuel the very violence that Iraqification in theory was supposed to stop. This gradual, perhaps rapid, U.S. withdrawal could well unhinge the Shiite community, giving victory to the militant minority.

We are now in the unenviable position of having to confront radicalized, murderous Shiite militias, who have gained broader Shiite support because of the Sunni-led violence and the lameness of U.S. counterinsurgency operations. The Bush administration would be wise not to postpone any longer what it should have already undertaken--securing Baghdad. This will be an enormously difficult task: Both Sunnis and Shiites will have to be confronted, but Sunni insurgents and brigands must be dealt with first to ensure America doesn't lose the Shiite majority and the government doesn't completely fall apart. Pacifying Baghdad will be politically convulsive and provide horrific film footage and skyrocketing body counts. But Iraq cannot heal itself so long as Baghdad remains a deadly place. And the U.S. media will never write many optimistic stories about Iraq if journalists fear going outside. To punt this undertaking down the road when the political dynamics might be better, and when the number of American soldiers in Iraq will surely be less, perhaps a lot less, is to invite disaster.

The Iraqis and the Americans will either save or damn Iraq in the coming months. Quite contrary to the purblind charges of Michigan's Democratic Sen. Carl Levin, the Iraqis really are doing their part--better than what anyone historically could have expected. The real question is, will Gen. Abizaid and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld do theirs?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/03/2006 11:03 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


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The World Will End In Three Months
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UFO CULT GATHERS IN NEW YORK FOR APOCALYPSE

CLEVELAND, Ohio, April 3, 2006: The Church of the SubGenius has announced that the end of the world will take place on Tuesday, July 5, 2005. In preparation for the fulfillment of this doomsday prophecy, the Church is requesting that all of its members participate in a bizarre religious ceremony taking place in upstate New York, during the final weekend before the arrival of the apocalypse.

Since its inception in 1953, Church founder J.R. "Bob" Dobbs has predicted that a fleet of flying saucers will arrive at the beginning of July to destroy the worldwide Conspiracy against the Church of the SubGenius, while all ordained SubGenius ministers will be rescued by escape vessels piloted by the Alien Sex Goddesses, also known as the Xists.

The Church is inviting all of its members worldwide to gather together for the final hours in Sherman, New York from July 1 to July 5, at a clothing-optional outdoor campground called Brushwood Folklore Center. The first gathering at this compound took place in 1996, and the event has increased in size and participants each following year. 1998 was designated the first true "X-Day," and each successive year has added one to the total. This year's celebration in 2005 is X-Day 8, or X-Day VIII.

The Church has been engaged in a massive recruitment campaign to increase the numbers of its membership before the arrival of the Xists. According to Church records, the organization currently has approximately 100,000 members worldwide. SubGenius recruitment has been especially dedicated among the ranks of people who refuse to conform to the norms of society, including disbelievers, blasphemers, pranksters, rebels, hackers, pornographers, geeks, and outcasts.

The Church is seeking performers and producers from the adult entertainment industry in particular, because sexual freedom has been an important part of Church doctrine from the start. X-Day will be a celebration of pornography and adult entertainment, and certain parts of the event will be restricted to adults only. Only ordained ministers of the Church of the SubGenius are allowed at the event, but the Church is accepting memberships at its standard rate of $30 up until the final hours of July 4.

The Church of the SubGenius has been no stranger to controversy since its foundation, and the upcoming X-Day celebration promises to be no different. In the late 1980s, members of the Church were accused of spreading a virus in Macintosh computers known as the "Peace Virus." Numerous articles have been written on the Church in such noteworthy publications as the New York Times, Washington Post, Wired Online, Boston Globe, U.S. News and World Report; and broadcast reports have been produced by CNN and NPR. In April 1999, officials of the city of Cambridge, Massachusetts shut down an official SubGenius Devival gathering in the belief that the Church was affiliated with the Trenchcoat Mafia (the organization blamed for the Columbine high school shootings), though authorities later realized the association was mistaken. In its January 1, 2000 issue, a Time magazine poll declared J.R. "Bob" Dobbs the biggest fraud of the 20th century.

In addition, a new controversy took place in the early months of 2006 when one of the Church's highest level initiates, Reverend Magdalen, came into conflict with the United States legal system. She found her religious affiliations questioned in court, and her case has become a cause celebre for free speech advocates nationwide. This case has been covered in Boing Boing, Fark, The Wild Hunt, and Wikinews (Wikipedia's news reporting service).

Detailed information about X-Day can be found on the World Wide Web at the X-Day Web site.
I've deleted the contact information. Go to their website if you wish.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 04/03/2006 14:17 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Will there be giant floating heads?
Posted by: Jonathan || 04/03/2006 14:54 Comments || Top||

#2  The end of the world will take place nine months ago? Holy Shit!
Posted by: Mad Mad Mullah || 04/03/2006 14:58 Comments || Top||

#3  If it's gonna be all over on July 5th, why the hell would I wanna waste thirty bucks to join?
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/03/2006 15:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Well, now I'll defintely keep my money...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/03/2006 15:02 Comments || Top||

#5  Clothing optional sounds nice .... until you realize they all are old, ugly and/or fat, like most nudist areas.

ewwwww.....

I call on the Swiss Bikini team to join!
Posted by: DarthVader || 04/03/2006 15:20 Comments || Top||

#6  DV:

What about the women's bikini snowboarding team?





Posted by: BigEd || 04/03/2006 15:41 Comments || Top||

#7  Can I drive my Fnord there?
Posted by: Secret Master || 04/03/2006 16:01 Comments || Top||

#8  :> SM
Posted by: 6 || 04/03/2006 16:30 Comments || Top||

#9  Well, guess I don't need to worry about that balloon payment on my mortgage.
Posted by: Mike || 04/03/2006 17:33 Comments || Top||

#10  Sure it's not June 6, 2006?
Posted by: Jules || 04/03/2006 18:30 Comments || Top||

#11  I read an interesting statistic once that showed the number of UFO sitings pretty much dropped to near zero after Sept 11. Folks had real issues to fill their nightmares rather than delusions of little green men.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 04/03/2006 18:52 Comments || Top||

#12  I think the SubGeniuses have got it wrong (as a subgenius would be wont to do). The aliens are comming to obliterate them from earth. And what a good bunch to select. This year, last year - if they can get their press release right - what does it matter?
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 04/03/2006 19:16 Comments || Top||

#13  what about the number of abductions and anal probes? (.....and why do they always anally probe older single men with drinking problems and drawls?)
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 19:58 Comments || Top||

#14  Frank, STOP with the visuals!!

ferchristeaks its close to suppertime!
Posted by: RD || 04/03/2006 20:03 Comments || Top||

#15  Rjschwartz: I don't know if that's true, but it may be a reporting bias rather than an actual reduction in the number of UFO's (even if they exist); I don't know if you really follow the fringe UFO sites, but some of them were very fast and vehement to jump on the conspiracy theories about 9/11. (There's one in particular I won't mention that basically devolved into nonstop antisemitic frothing-at-the-mouth).

(And the less I say about Alex Jones or David Icke the happier we'll all be, I suspect).
Posted by: Phil || 04/03/2006 20:05 Comments || Top||

#16  sorry RD - I just report it as I hear it
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 20:43 Comments || Top||

#17  "....and why do they always anally probe older single men with drinking problems and drawls?"

You sound worried, Frank.

Posted by: Dave D. || 04/03/2006 20:56 Comments || Top||

#18  I see strange lights at night, DD
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 21:02 Comments || Top||

#19  Frank don't drawl no more -- he's got AutoCAD now.
Posted by: Very SubGenius || 04/03/2006 21:05 Comments || Top||

#20  LOL
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/03/2006 21:19 Comments || Top||

#21  even I'm LOL
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 21:39 Comments || Top||

#22  I'm not
Posted by: Art Bell || 04/03/2006 21:40 Comments || Top||

#23  Knock off the JD a bit, down to a quart a day or so, and maybe you won't have these anxieties about being cornholed by aliens...
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/03/2006 21:45 Comments || Top||

#24  Good lord guys! Get the tin foil hats back on. Everyone knows the end of the world is June 6th and the aliens promised to take Me and Tracy Lords, as well as 500 strippers to their planet! Geeez get it right, and skip the anal probe stuff! LOL!!!
Posted by: 49 pan || 04/03/2006 21:50 Comments || Top||

#25  you're a Dr.? Or just stayed in a Holiday Inn Express?
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 21:51 Comments || Top||

#26  "The World Will End In Three Months"

What, again?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 04/03/2006 22:35 Comments || Top||

#27  it's a cyclical thang
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 22:39 Comments || Top||

#28  Time to grab a chick, any chick or chicks, even Helen Thomas or Hillary, plus pet dog, and run/head to the hills.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/03/2006 23:06 Comments || Top||

#29  No, Joe...hold on there...Helen and Hillary do not qualify...
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 23:07 Comments || Top||

#30  SubGenius Instructional Video
You must watch it.
Posted by: 3dc || 04/03/2006 23:53 Comments || Top||

#31  ROFL!!!

Wonderful video! LOL!
Posted by: Glosing Hupesh7946 || 04/03/2006 23:59 Comments || Top||


UMKC prof's book probes making of human bombs
He hasn't got a clue
Posted by: tipper || 04/03/2006 11:37 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Hasn't got a clue" is being pretty damn generous.

From the article:

"What could possibly compel a person to strap a bomb to himself, walk into a restaurant or onto a bus and detonate his charge, with the express intent of killing both patrons and himself?"

A barbaric, primitive, totalitarian murder cult called Islam.

Posted by: Dave D. || 04/03/2006 12:28 Comments || Top||

#2  The promise of 72 c*nts in Paradise, numbwit.
Posted by: Ptah || 04/03/2006 12:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Allan said it. I believe it. That settles it.

Boom.
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/03/2006 12:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Virgins works as well and isn't as unnecessarily offensive.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/03/2006 12:53 Comments || Top||

#5  yes. mohammad atta and his cohorts were desperate when they took over US airliners and killed Americans. what else could they do?

Or the scores of suicide bombers in iraq. they have no other recourse! They're desperate!

COME ON! Paleos aren't desparate. They're the product of a sick, uncivilized culture. They vote in a group who wants to destroy the only possible partner they have in creating their own country. They worshipped a leader who they knew was corrupt and stealing food from their children's mouths. They continue to support strategies that do not in the least serve their interests.

what about all the other societies that were TRULY desperate throughout the ages? Why didn't they resort to such heinous tactics?

Is it that difficult to conclude that paleos are the product of a despicable culture? Must this asswipe be simply another apologist? Haven't we all seen through that veil of lies by now?
Posted by: PlanetDan || 04/03/2006 12:53 Comments || Top||

#6  Virgins works as well and isn't as unnecessarily offensive.

But not nearly as descriptive. Let's be honest -- "virgin" implies a complete person, someone you can get to know as an individual, and only describes their inexperience in one aspect of life. The houris promised to shahids are described in terms of two things -- their eyes and their constantly regenerating hymens.

I think Ptah's term was perfectly apt.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/03/2006 13:29 Comments || Top||

#7  But not particularly pleasant for the women here to read.
Posted by: lotp || 04/03/2006 15:49 Comments || Top||

#8  And we do appreciate the touch of class and culture the fairer gender adds. So let's not gross them out unless there is some positive reason that makes it necessary to do so.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/03/2006 15:58 Comments || Top||

#9  "Vaginas" would have done Ptah, we're all relative adults here. Your choice of word is an epithet againt women and out of context here. Women have little to do with this virgins in heaven thing for the males - don't curse them.

But receptacles, only receptacles for the martyr's jism. Yup. just like the one's on earth.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 04/03/2006 19:29 Comments || Top||

#10  While I'm not at all fond of the particular epithet in question, I'd wager that all of us would be revolted far more intensely by eavesdropping on the average Islamist's mind for a minute's thought about women in general.

Yes, I am a staunch advocate for civility hereabouts. I'd also like to point out how infrequently Ptah ever descends to such vulgarity. That said, I'm outta here.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/03/2006 20:29 Comments || Top||

#11  quit trying to sugar-coat it, dammit
Posted by: Frank G || 04/03/2006 20:29 Comments || Top||

#12  Meanwhile, back at the article...
"Reaching a win-win solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the only way to take the steam out of the culture of martyrdom, Hafez believes."
But of course he has no prescription for how to reach a win-win when the Palestinians are hell-bent on exterminating the Israelis. He's about as useless as Jimmy Carter.
Posted by: Darrell || 04/03/2006 20:33 Comments || Top||

#13  Islam proves that being ruthlessly violent to your children during their tender years will assure that logical thought processes are replaced by blind obedience and assinine beliefs.
Posted by: wxjames || 04/03/2006 21:54 Comments || Top||

#14  Reaching a win-win solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Since we Jews worship life, whereas Paleos (and ROPers in general) worship death, I do believe that a win-win solution is possible.
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/03/2006 22:25 Comments || Top||


The Twilight of Objectivity
Posted by: tipper || 04/03/2006 03:41 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Listen to Dogs,
I think you missed the gist of the article.
The sub line was what it was about:
"How opinion journalism could change the face of the news."
Posted by: tipper || 04/03/2006 10:07 Comments || Top||

#2  "Objectivity" was an artifact of the two world wars (the government had a monopoly on all of the lead stories and if the news outlets didn't self-censor, the government would cut off all access) and the fair time doctrine (which died when it became apparent that cable, satellite, etc were providing more than enough bandwidth for everyone to express his opinion). Before WWI all newspapers were partisan. The pendulum has swung back to where it was a century ago.

The bi-partisan consensus is dead. Long live rancorous debate.
Posted by: 11A5S || 04/03/2006 10:33 Comments || Top||

#3  ltd ot? oh no.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/03/2006 10:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Someone has advocated the EXPLICIT return of newsmedia to partisian support, like in France, where newspapers are explicitly labelled left and right wing.

Lefties seek for, and thrive, in environments with default assumptions, one of which is that the media are impartial. Declaring themselves is like the vampire coming out into the sunlight...
Posted by: Ptah || 04/03/2006 12:42 Comments || Top||

#5  11A5S, yes pre-WW1 all papers were partisan but the news groups such as AP and Rueters were strictly non-partisan in order to sell their stories to as many of those partisan papers as possible. So international news generally was non-partisan.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 04/03/2006 18:58 Comments || Top||

#6  Plus ca change, plus ca reste la meme.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 04/03/2006 19:46 Comments || Top||

#7  Erasmus proved that the more learned the academic, the more ignorant. For further proof, I submit 2 of the most learned jackasses ever to pollute Academia: Fred Halliday and Graham Fuller. Fuller claims to speak 16 languages, but that doesn't give him insight into offering solutions other than the West dhimmi up to Islamofascism. Before Martin Kramer took a hard line on the "what threat?" mentality, he wrote this on those 2 clowns:
http://www.geocities.com/martinkramerorg/IslamicThreat.htm

Paul Johnson and Niall Ferguson openly advocate a return to Imperialism and Colonialism, over those cultures that need to be re-worked by their superiors. They don't get invited to the same Anti-CLASH conventions where John Esposito, Karen Armstrong, Bernard Lewis, Fuller, ad nauseum, etc can be found.
Posted by: Listen to Dogs || 04/03/2006 4:42 Comments || Top||



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