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2006-04-03 Home Front: Culture Wars
Mexican Labor Strike Planned For May 1st (Mon) or 5th (Fri)
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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-04-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11139 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Oh gee darn. I guess I won't go to La Feista on the 5th.
Posted by DarthVader 2006-04-03 00:20||   2006-04-03 00:20|| Front Page Top

#2 Illegal Immigration

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Posted by RD 2006-04-03 01:18||   2006-04-03 01:18|| Front Page Top

#3 These people are in the same alternate reality that sees the reestablishment of the Caliphate. Why is it that the people with the least power talk the loudest?
Posted by RWV 2006-04-03 01:29||   2006-04-03 01:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Don't fergot about GORBACHEV, whom in TIME.com and other news blogs seems surprised that Fascist = Half-a-Communist/Totalitarian Russia is regressing back into "dictatorship", that somehow a Commie-controlled/domin national Govt.- Bureaucracy is not still a Commie govt!?
Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-04-03 02:45||   2006-04-03 02:45|| Front Page Top

#5 "Freedom Wraps", and "Sunrise Beer, a new dawn".
No more tacos and Corona!
Posted by Skidmark 2006-04-03 05:56||   2006-04-03 05:56|| Front Page Top

#6 I agree with the Mexica movement. We should turn the land over to its original residents.....and all start speaking Apache, Tohono O'odham, or another Native American language.

Oops, sorry, I guess they didn't mean FBI's (full-blooded Indians). My bad!
Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-04-03 08:18|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]  2006-04-03 08:18|| Front Page Top

#7 That's fine. My gardener's Vietnamese.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2006-04-03 10:43||   2006-04-03 10:43|| Front Page Top

#8 On the radio in Phoenix, it sounds like the moderates are trying to assert control. For the next protests, they are telling the protestors to get rid of the Mexican flags, no signs in Spanish, enough of the Aztlan bulldada (which is mostly an L.A. thing), and behave themselves. There were also some traffic problems last time, so they are now coordinating with the police.

There are a lot of conservative Mexican-Americans in Phoenix, who are established and prosperous, agree that the flow across the border has to be severely restricted, but are very concerned that they are being singled out for harassment not because they are illegal, but because of their ethnic group.

The thing that really set them off was the suggestion that 11 million people be deported. That would be as violent as trying to force all Mormons out of the US. And there is no way to put a reasonable face on it.

Fortunately, it will not happen, no way. The vast majority are de facto American citizens, whether other American citizens like it or not.

Any arguments about keeping an open border shows the only real split among them. Half want an open border, the other half don't.

Locally, the Mexicans are still agitated because of an insane and illegal "roundup" that went on in the Metro Phoenix city of Chandler some years ago.

Hundreds of local police, INS, and other federal law enforcement did a sweep of the whole city, stopping people on the street to demand papers.

They entered homes and conducted searches without search warrants because a Mexican had been seen in their backyard, usually a gardener. They entered businesses and forced every brown-skinned person out on the street to check their identities. Some people were stopped multiple times.

Anyone found without papers was detained for hours at best, or loaded on buses and driven to the border.

I knew an Irish guy with red hair and a tan who was deported to South Nogales after being held at gunpoint with an M-16, and had to call his father to bring his wallet down so he could get back into the country. He had been picking oranges with some Mexicans when the INS arrived.

The resulting $35M lawsuit was settled for $400K with the agreement of the city of Chandler to totally retrain its police department, and to change all city policies to explicitly follow constitutional procedures in the future.

And yes, out of a city of several hundred thousand people, they did find about 400 illegals. Most of these were clustered in a few public sites, hoping to work as day laborers, as they do every day.
Posted by Anonymoose 2006-04-03 11:13||   2006-04-03 11:13|| Front Page Top

#9 We have to demonstrate to the nation, one more time, that its economic stability depends on us

The lesson they will learn is that everyone is replaceable.
Posted by 2b 2006-04-03 11:19||   2006-04-03 11:19|| Front Page Top

#10 IF they decide to "strike" on May 5, then I really hope that they are looking for a new job on May 6. You can tell this is being pushed by Gringo-Mexicans because May 5 is not a big deal south of the border. I mean really what country hasn't beaten the Phrench in a battle?
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-04-03 11:25||   2006-04-03 11:25|| Front Page Top

#11 Only the Frogs would celebrate being on the wrong end of a massacre:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/legion/ecameron.htm
Posted by mojo">mojo  2006-04-03 11:37||   2006-04-03 11:37|| Front Page Top

#12 The Alamo maybe mojo?
Posted by Hupineque Glerelet1305 2006-04-03 11:47||   2006-04-03 11:47|| Front Page Top

#13 There's a DVD out called A Day Without a Mexican. Check it out, it's pretty funny.

Posted by DoDo 2006-04-03 12:01||   2006-04-03 12:01|| Front Page Top

#14 "Only the Frogs would celebrate being on the wrong end of a massacre"

With all due respect, mojo, you are a fool.

It was not a massacre. It was a battle. Sixty-five Legionnaires stood off 2,000 Juarists for an entire day, so that a gold train would not fall into the latter's hands. Seven survived.

The French do not celebrate Cameron. The French Foreign Legion does. There is a difference. They do not celebrate being defeated; they celebrate that the legionnaires died doing their duty.
Posted by Fordesque 2006-04-03 12:27||   2006-04-03 12:27|| Front Page Top

#15 "We May Die, but Never Will Surrender" - The Battle of Cameron
"Disasters have a way of spinning noble myths, as if it benefits the survivors to find something worthwhile in the midst of a catastrophe. Sometimes these magnificent moments, if ever they existed at all, have to be dug out of the rubble, and dusted off. At that point they can be held high for everyone to see and proclaim as significant."

"Such incidents fade from memory, pushed off the pages of history books by more monumental occurrences. There is no theme for historians to discuss, and the battle is hardly a watershed as events go. For the Legionnaire there remains a plaque with a few words on it, and a celebration on the anniversary of the battle. Perhaps the Legionnaires understand that such encounters are not usually commemorated outside of the Legion, and therefore people would know very little about Cameron. There is tangible evidence of the day that saw 65 Legionnaires stand off 2,000 Juarists; a relic preserved by the Legion - Danjou's wooden hand found shortly after the battle. It is a reminder of the only theme truly associated with the events of April 29, 1863: courage."
Posted by Steve">Steve  2006-04-03 12:54||   2006-04-03 12:54|| Front Page Top

#16 Sounds like a movie to me.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-04-03 12:57||   2006-04-03 12:57|| Front Page Top

#17 With all due respect, mojo, you are a fool.

Or a provocateur. Hard to tell sometimes.

Sixty-five Legionnaires stood off 2,000 Juarists for an entire day, so that a gold train would not fall into the latter's hands. Seven survived.

And...who ended up with the gold?
Posted by mojo">mojo  2006-04-03 15:11||   2006-04-03 15:11|| Front Page Top

#18 i suspect around here most of the folks who work in Mexican restaurants are Salvadorans, or Guatemalans, so it shouldnt slow down the mixing of margaritas at all.:)
Posted by liberalhawk 2006-04-03 15:41||   2006-04-03 15:41|| Front Page Top

#19 total BS.

1st, plenty of the immigrants, legal and illegal, in the southwest are not hispanic. Certainly LA has plenty of Asian immigrants.
second = as my previous comment points out, many hispanics are NOT Mexican. I doubt the Salvadorans or Guatamalans in LA want to be part of Aztlan, or mourn the defeat of 1846.

Third, most Mexican-Americans arent too keen on it either. The Aztlan/La Raza people are a small group, trying to take advantage of the whole immigration tussel.
Posted by liberalhawk 2006-04-03 15:45||   2006-04-03 15:45|| Front Page Top

#20 Liberalhawk, a "small group" may grow to dominate a Revolution, be they bolsheviks, national socialists, Robespierrists, or Aztlan. Indeed, I would suggest that the most radical rise to the top in a revolutionary setting. Aztlan might have been a joke at one time, the current demographic time bomb makes it demonstrably less so nowadays...
Posted by borgboy 2006-04-03 16:23||   2006-04-03 16:23|| Front Page Top

#21 Per the demographic timebomb: the prevalent philosophy of "one man, one vote" will insure the morphing of our political/cultural heritage. En cinquenta anos, la idioma y la cultural del suroeste cambiara...
Posted by borgboy 2006-04-03 16:30||   2006-04-03 16:30|| Front Page Top

#22 In cinquenta anuses, the language and the cultural one of the southwest changed...

I still don't understand it.
In most countries one is obliged to learn thew national language and speak it to natives.
Not to use your "home"language as a weapon.
Posted by jim#6">jim#6  2006-04-03 17:10||   2006-04-03 17:10|| Front Page Top

#23 En cinquenta anos, la idioma y la cultural del suroeste cambiara...

In fifty anuses? Yeowch!
Posted by eLarson 2006-04-03 17:25|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2006-04-03 17:25|| Front Page Top

#24 Why don't they just take the whole week off? I think the biggest drawback would be that my neighbors lawns won't get mowed.
Posted by Bob 2006-04-03 18:59||   2006-04-03 18:59|| Front Page Top

#25 "And...who ended up with the gold?"

The gold train made it to its destination.

As an aside, Danjou's wooden hand was all that was ever found of him. The body disappeared.
Posted by Fordesque 2006-04-03 19:35||   2006-04-03 19:35|| Front Page Top

#26 the Aztlanazis are loudmouthed asshole University aides and students. Once tthey're forced into the general world nobody listens to or buys their shit. Only the echo chamber of Academia
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-04-03 20:19||   2006-04-03 20:19|| Front Page Top

#27 FrankG, have you ever thought what Southern California would be like if it had stayed part of Mexico? Without a Mulholland to bring rivers from the desert, LA would still be a little port city like Ensenada. Without a Roosevelt to build an aquaduct to support the Pacific Fleet, SD would still be a desert. These people just want the fruits of other peoples vision, capital, and sweat. If the Aztlan idea is so great, why is so much of Mexico a shithole?
Posted by RWV 2006-04-03 20:56||   2006-04-03 20:56|| Front Page Top

#28 like Israel if the Palestinians had retained control....
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-04-03 21:03||   2006-04-03 21:03|| Front Page Top

#29 although Mulholland did do a number on the Owens Valley ranchers....
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-04-03 21:05||   2006-04-03 21:05|| Front Page Top

#30 Voz de Aztlan is a bunch of Marxist die-hard loons like ANSWER. Like ANSWER it can mobilize a lot of idiots at first, but soon the idiots catch on and stop coming to the rallies.

Last time they called a strike, it had zero impact. KFI covered it and it was a joke.
Posted by 11A5S 2006-04-03 21:17||   2006-04-03 21:17|| Front Page Top

#31 Barking mad.
Posted by Glosing Hupesh7946 2006-04-03 22:08||   2006-04-03 22:08|| Front Page Top

#32 Joe,

Have you got any extras?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-04-03 22:12||   2006-04-03 22:12|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Listen to Dogs 2006-04-03 19:57||   2006-04-03 19:57|| Front Page Top

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