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Afghanistan
Two Pakistani drivers killed in Taliban attack
(KUNA) -- Suspected Taliban attacked a truck convoy supplying food items to NATO forces killing two Pakistan drivers and injuring another in southeastern Afghanistan, officials said on Saturday. Separately, several Taliban have reportedly been killed in an air strike by NATO forces in one of the country's central provinces, a local governor claimed. In the first incident, a convoy of five trucks, all Pakistanis, came under small arms fire in Afghanistan's southeastern Paktia province. Two drivers were killed while a conductor was injured in the attack, police chief of the province Hanan Raufi told KUNA.

Raufi said the assailants fled to nearby mountains after the attack. However, they had formed special teams to chase and arrest them. He said Taliban were involved in the killing of the drivers but the ousted militia did not claim responsibility so far. Burning of vehicles supplying fuel, foodstuff and other logistics to the NATO forces, is common in the southern and eastern parts of Afghanistan. Two drivers were killed in a similar incident in Ghazni province about a week back. Separately, a local governor claimed the NATO and Afghan forces had killed more than one dozen Taliban in an air strike in Kapisa province, situated some 35 kilometres northeast of Kabul. Taliban rejected the government's claim and said the troops had killed civilians in the air raid. The militia's purported spokesman Dr Hanif said they had attacked the NATO and Afghan forces in Tagab area of the province and killed several soldiers. The claims could not be confirmed from any independent source.
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7 Taliban militants killed in S. Afghanistan

(Xinhua) -- Afghan and NATO forces killed seven Taliban insurgents and injured 30 others on Saturday in Helmand province of southern Afghanistan, the provincial police chief told Xinhua. Nabi Jan Mullahkhil said the conflict, which lasted for hours, occurred in Zanboba area of Gereshk district.
Over 2,600 people, mostly Taliban militants, have been killed in this volatile country this year.
The forces carried out an operation to wipe out militants in the area after locals complained Taliban activities were rampant there, he added. There were no casualties of the troops and civilians, he said.

Helmand, famous for its gigantic opium product, has been a hotbed of Taliban insurgents, who clash with government and foreign forces frequently. Due to rising Taliban-linked violence this year, Afghanistan has plunged into the worst spate of bloodshed since the Taliban regime was toppled down nearly five years ago. Over 2,600 people, mostly Taliban militants, have been killed in this volatile country this year.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  nothing better than dead taliwhackers.
Posted by: anymouse || 11/05/2006 15:19 Comments || Top||

#2  yes there is: more than seven :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 11/05/2006 16:52 Comments || Top||


Africa North
Egypt detains 29 people in crackdown on Islamists
Egyptian authorities, engaged in a crackdown on Islamist opposition, detained 29 people before dawn on Sunday, all but seven of them members of the Muslim Brotherhood, security and Brotherhood sources said.

Fifteen of the Brotherhood members were involved in student union elections at the University of Helwan in Cairo, said the banned group's lawyer, Abdel Moniem Abdel Maqsoud. Police also rounded up seven other Brotherhood members involved in the group's campaign for forthcoming trade union elections, along with seven of their friends who were not affiliated with the group, the lawyer said. An Interior Ministry spokesman declined to comment.

The Muslim Brotherhood is Egypt's strongest opposition group, despite being banned since 1954. Members elected as independents hold 88 seats in the 454-member parliament, dominated by the ruling National Democratic Party. Hundreds of students, mostly Brotherhood members or sympathisers, protested last week inside several universities nationwide against decisions by the universities' administrations to block Islamist candidates from vying for student union seats.

Riot police, dressed in black and armed with batons, have been heavily present outside these universities to prevent campus demonstrations spilling over to the streets. The government controls state universities, which block Islamist candidates at student union elections every year.

Abdel Maqsoud said the arrested students had been involved in efforts to set up elections for a parallel student union free of government interference. The Brotherhood said authorities had also disqualified hundreds of its candidates standing for trade union seats, and arrested more than 20 of them last week. Police detain Brotherhood members periodically, and often without charges.

The U.S.-based rights group Human Rights Watch said last month that Egypt had intensified its crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood with a new round of "arbitrary arrests".
Posted by: ryuge || 11/05/2006 12:44 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  arbitrary arrests work fine when there's such a plethora of suspects
Posted by: Frank G || 11/05/2006 15:29 Comments || Top||

#2  "detained 29 people before dawn on Sunday, all but seven of them members of the Muslim Brotherhood"
That doesn't sound arbitrary to me.
Posted by: Darrell || 11/05/2006 16:21 Comments || Top||


Arabia
German held over suspected al-Qaeda links freed in Yemen
Yemeni police have freed a German national arrested along with seven other foreigners in October for alleged links to the al-Qaeda terrorist network and for attempts to smuggle weapons to Somalia, a police source said on Saturday. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the man was handed over to two German diplomats late on Thursday. "He was released after investigations by security interrogators established that the man was not involved in the weapons smuggling activities," the source told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa.

The source would not provide further details, and German embassy officials in Sana'a refused to comment. The man was among a group of eight foreigners arrested in Sana'a on October 16. The other suspects are three Australians, a Briton and a Dane, another unidentified Westerner and a Somali. "Initial investigations suggest that the men belonged to the al- Qaeda organization," an interior ministry statement said last week. Security sources have told dpa that all the seven Westerners are Muslims who have been studying Arabic at private schools in Sana'a.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Yemen Court Acquits 19 Charged With Terrorism Plot
An appeals court in Yemen on Saturday acquitted 19 people suspected of being members of Al Qaeda on charges of conspiring to commit terrorism; six were convicted on lesser charges of possessing forged documents. The defendants, including five Saudis, had been charged with plotting attacks against United States interests in Yemen on behalf of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the former terrorist leader in Iraq who was killed in June. The state security court acquitted the men in June, but the Yemeni prosecutor challenged the court’s verdict on appeal.

The presiding appeals court judge said Saturday that there was insufficient proof that the men collectively made up an armed unit, quashing the basis of the case. However, he found six of the men, including one Saudi, guilty of possessing forged passports and other official documents. Two of the men, both Yemeni, were sentenced to three-year terms, and the rest were sentenced to time served and were released.

Membership in Al Qaeda is technically not illegal, while involvement in Iraq’s insurgency is seen as outside the jurisdiction of the courts.
The trial was one of several highly publicized cases involving people suspected of being Qaeda members in Yemen this year, part of the government’s crackdown on militants. When the initial trial opened in February, most of the men expressed either sympathy or allegiance to Al Qaeda, and acknowledged having fought in Iraq. The men joked with the judge, who promised to make their stay in prison easier and noted their objections to how they were being treated.

Militants in Yemen may only be charged with crimes committed there. Membership in Al Qaeda is technically not illegal, while involvement in Iraq’s insurgency is seen as outside the jurisdiction of the courts.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yemen is an important ally in the war on terrorism and a recepient of USAID
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/05/2006 4:39 Comments || Top||


Britain
British paratroopers on standby

BRITISH defence chiefs have put a parachute regiment battalion on standby to jump into Afghanistan should fighting escalate with the Taliban, The Sunday Times said. It would be the first time that British paratroopers have jumped into action since the Suez conflict 50 years ago, said the weekly British newspaper.

Citing senior defence sources, the broadsheet said 600 troops from 2nd Battalion, the Parachute Regiment, were on standby to fly to Afghanistan within 12 hours and carry out an airborne landing within 24 hours.

Top British diplomats warned last week that a planned assault on opium producers was likely to result in heavy fighting, the newspaper said. Therefore, military planners have drawn up a contingency plan in which a parachute battalion would jump from six Hercules C-130 transport aircraft to reinforce British Royal Marines in southern Afghanistan.

Britain has around 5,000 troops in the war-shattered central Asian country.
Posted by: Oztralian || 11/05/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Airborne leads the way, even in the UK.
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/05/2006 0:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Um maybe its me but 12 hour standby notice? Isn't that violating a bit of OPSEC?
Posted by: Valentine || 11/05/2006 2:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Good Training.
Posted by: closedanger@hotmail.com || 11/05/2006 6:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Excellent graphic.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/05/2006 7:45 Comments || Top||

#5  I figured the story would be about dropping them into London. :/
Posted by: RJB in JC MO || 11/05/2006 9:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Paris, RJB.
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/05/2006 10:53 Comments || Top||

#7  12 hour standby is SOP for any airborne unit on alert, so no OPSEC issue.

The enemy may know its a 12 hour standby, but they don't know WHICH 12 hours it is :-)
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/05/2006 10:56 Comments || Top||

#8  I'd rather they acted in Iran if we need them -- there should be prioritized lists of objectives in WW IV too.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/05/2006 10:59 Comments || Top||

#9  I don't want a single trooper in Iran. I want nukes, lots of nukes. There is not one single thing in Iran worth dieing over. there are thousands of reasons to kill for. The logic is easy. They want to meet allah, we can arange it.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 11/05/2006 17:11 Comments || Top||

#10  I'm OK with that, 49 Pan.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/05/2006 17:22 Comments || Top||

#11  Would you be satisfied with Daisycutters and such, 49 Pan? It's just that there'd be less fussing later.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/05/2006 20:52 Comments || Top||

#12  I don't want a single trooper in Iran. I want nukes, lots of nukes. There is not one single thing in Iran worth dieing over. there are thousands of reasons to kill for. The logic is easy. They want to meet allah, we can arange it.

Listen to trailing wife, folks. Why give Islam any excuse to retaliate with atomic weapons? That would be insanity and remove all indignation for us, were we to be hit with a terrorist nuclear attack. I'm truly surprised you haven't gotten this by now. MOABs and JDAMS will destroy Iran just as well without the lingering fallout. Everything else you say, 49 Pan, I agree with. No boots on the ground, just boots up mullah ass.

Trust me, I understand the visceral satisfaction that would arise from watching mushroom clouds sprout like pistachio trees throughout Iran. Don't think I haven't considered it as well. Now is simply not the time.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/05/2006 23:27 Comments || Top||


Europe
German deputy threatened after attack on headscarves
A Muslim woman who sits in the German parliament has been given a police bodyguard after she received death threats over her public appeal for other Muslims to abandon headscarves. Turkish-born Ekin Deligoz, 35, has occupied a Greens party seat since 1998, the year after she was naturalized as a German, but she only gained national attention last month when she assailed the scarf as a symbol of backwardness and submission to male dominance.

That has turned her life upside down. After anonymous hate calls by phone, Berlin assigned two federal policemen to protect Deligoz at all times, even when she goes out for walks with her husband and child or to do the shopping. 'It's the little things that have changed,' she said wistfully this week.

Recalling the 2004 murder of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh by an Islamist, German authorities believe they cannot be too careful. But Muslims in Germany worry that they are once again being portrayed in the media as violent and incapable of debate.
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Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It is funny to me that the Muslim populations in western societies don't grasp that every time one of their members says, "call us the religion of peace or we will kill you", that they are creating their own hell. I know they think (because our University Professors and papers say so) that we are paper tigers. Maybe they should pick up a few history books and really start to get a grasp on the scenario that they are setting up for themselves.

Throwing rocks at police or troops is only fun until they start shooting back.
Posted by: anon || 11/05/2006 5:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Muslims in Germany worry that they are once again being portrayed in the media as violent and incapable of debate.

No shit.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/05/2006 7:57 Comments || Top||

#3  I know they think (because our University Professors and papers say so) that we are paper tigers. Maybe they should pick up a few history books and really start to get a grasp on the scenario that they are setting up for themselves.

The problem is that they look at the history of the last 30 years and have every reason to believe the West is so decadent and riven with self-hatred that it really is a paper tiger now.

Thank John Kerry and Jane Fonda for their work on behalf of North Vietnam. Thank Ramsey Clark. Thank Jimmy Carter, big time. Thank Reagan for the withdrawl from Lebanon. Thank the Church commission for gutting intelligence actions.

Thank Clinton, for turning a blind eye to the sale / theft of military and other technologies while campaign monies flowed to him and Gore from Chinese sources. Thank him for appointing a head of the Los Alamos lab who was more concerned with putting down "white boys" than in maintaining security there. Thank him for gutting immigration controls too.

Thank Gore and Kerry for doing everything they can to undermine confidence in our democratic processes since the 2000 election.

I was a Democrat for 30 years, but I cannot emphasize how important it is to get out and vote R this year. Hold their feet to the fire afterwards, but if you don't want MORE of what has encouraged and abetted Islamofascism, then for the sake of all that is holy and sane, for this election at least, get out and vote R on Tuesday.
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2006 8:07 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Rocket attack plan was approved by Al-Qaeda
A little-known Al-Qaeda affiliate in the restive North Waziristan tribal region gave the go-ahead for the attempted rocket attacks in and around the federal capital last month, a senior investigator has said. According to Dawn newspaper, the investigator said that the Al- Qaeda affiliate, the Islamic Jihad Group (IJG) based in Mirali in North Waziristan, had approved the plot before the Pakistani masterminds executed it in early October. "While the fingers were in Islamabad, the tail was in Mirali," the investigator said requesting anonymity.

Investigations and interrogation of the suspects have led the government to conclude that the IJG leader, Yakhyo aka Nadzhmiddin Kamilidinovich Janov, an Uzbek militant said to be residing in Mirali, a subdistrict of the North Waziristan tribal region, had given the go-ahead to the plotters to carry out the attacks, the investigator said. All those involved in the botched-up plot have since been rounded up, including its mastermind and his two close associates. Eleven people have been formally charged in the rocket attack case, including the masterminds -- Khalil, Ali Ahmad Gondal and Munir.

The IJG is an offshoot of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan and is believed to be closer to Al-Qaeda than its mother organization, investigators said. It was formed after its founding members, Yakhyo and his deputy, Mansur Sohail aka Abu Huzaifa, also an ethnic Uzbek, fell out with the IMU leader over operational and administrative matters, investigators said. While the IMU is based in Wana, South Waziristan, the IJG leadership has moved to neighboring North Waziristan due to security reasons, they said.
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200 kg RDX recovered in Doda by J&K police
In one of the biggest hauls in the state, a special task force of the Jammu & Kashmir police on Saturday seized 200 kg of RDX and 60 detonators from a terrorist hideout near a school at Ramban in Doda district. The police also recovered 25 kg of fuse wire. They said two militants were arrested but the prime suspect, Kari, a deputy division commander of Hizb-ul Mujahideen, was absconding. The seized material was probably to be used to cause explosions in Jammu after the opening of civil secretariat and other offices in the winter Capital of the state, they said.

In a separate incident, security forces gunned down a Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorist in Mendhar area of Poonch district. Security forces also recovered one 0.12 Bore rifle, 15 rounds of AK assault rifle's ammunition and three kg explosives during a search operation in Basantgarh area of Udhampur.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  a terrorist hideout near a school
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/05/2006 6:24 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Islamic State of Iraq's Mujahideen Military Operations, Oct 17 - 28
From Jihad Unspun

In The Name Of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. O Allah! Make our shots hit their intended targets and fasten our feet firmly to the ground. All praise be to Allah, The Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds. Peace and prayer be upon our prophet, Muhammad, his family, and his companions.

This news report details the military operations made by the Mujahideen from the Islamic State of Iraq for the period of October 17th– 28th, 2006, all praise and gratitude be to Allah1. Liquidated a prominent leader in the Dajjal army and twenty five of their guards in the north of Baghdad on Saturday October 21, 2006. He was one of the members of the death squads that were torturing and killing Muslims and throwing them on Baghdad streets, all praise and gratitude be to Allah.
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Posted by: Slurong Ulase9706 || 11/05/2006 08:52 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Strangely enough, I suspect there's a fair element of truth in these claims. Some is 'wishful thinking' at most, but they probably really did 'liquidate' a bunch of Shia. Good chance that we'd have pureed some of the same ones too. Odd war; can't tell the players without a scorecard.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/05/2006 15:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Does anyone know what the Dajjal Army is?

Al
Posted by: frozen al || 11/05/2006 15:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Dajjal is the anti-Christ. It is used as a denegrating term for the Madhi Army and by extension any Shiite, Iraqi Army or government personnel.

In muslim end times lore the Madhi is supposed to defeat the Dajjal Army (Jews and Christians led by the Dajjal who claims to be Jesus) with the help of the real Jesus (Isa) who just happens to be a muslim. Think of the Madhi as the Skipper and Isa as his loyal little buddy Gilligan.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2006 15:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Yup, so basically we've got the Antichrist (the mahdi) along with the false prophet (isa/muslim Jesus) against the dajjal (aka Jesus).

See, islam and Christianity DO have something in common.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/05/2006 15:45 Comments || Top||

#5  In The Name Of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. O Allah! Make our shots hit their intended targets and fasten our feet firmly to the ground.

Oh definitely! Please stay exactly where you were when you fired off those shots.

Posted by: Ptah || 11/05/2006 16:07 Comments || Top||

#6  In The Name Of Allah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. O Allah! Make our shots hit their intended targets and fasten our feet firmly to the ground.

This reminds me of a France-Echos editor who had posted two prayers side by side... a christian "Marie pleine de grâce" (Ave Maria I think), and a muslim one who basically said "render allan's ennemies barren, make their wimmen bear no children, make their wells dry up, etc, etc...".

Two different divinities, methinks.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/05/2006 16:14 Comments || Top||


Saddam Hussein sentenced to death
U-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu!!!!
Iraq's High Tribunal on Sunday found Saddam Hussein guilty of crimes against humanity and sentenced him to hang, as the visibly shaken former leader shouted "God is great!"

His half brother and former intelligence chief Barzan Ibrahim, and Awad Hamed al-Bandar, head of the former Revolutionary Court, were sentenced to join Saddam on the gallows.

“ Before the trial began, Ramsey Clark handed the judge a memorandum in which he called the Saddam trial a travesty.

Judge Raouf Abdul-Rahman pointed to Clark and said in English, "Get out." ”
After the verdict was read, a trembling Saddam yelled out, "Life for the glorious nation, and death to its enemies!" He initially refused Chief Judge Raouf Adbul-Rahman's order to rise. Two bailiffs lifted Saddam to his feet and he remained standing through the sentencing.

As the proceedings finished, clashes broke out between police and gunmen in north Baghdad's Azamiyah district, which is dominated by hardliners from among Saddam's fellow Sunni sect. In contrast, celebratory gunfire rang out in many other parts of the city.
Nothing like a little gun sex to celebrate the verdict ...
The verdict was immediately condemned by the head of the second largest Sunni bloc in parliament, who predicted it would spark even greater bloodshed between Sunnis and the country's majority Shiites, who were heavily persecuted under Saddam's more-than two decades of authoritarian rule but now largely control the government and security forces.

"It was not wise and the government, not the court, has gone to the extreme with issuing this sentence, even in advance," Salih al-Mutlaq told the al-Arabiya satellite television station. "This government will be responsible for the consequences, with the deaths of hundreds, thousands or even hundreds of thousands, whose blood will be shed," Al-Mutlaq said.

Saddam and his seven co-defendants had been tried by the Iraqi High Tribunal over a wave of revenge killings carried out in the city of Dujail following a 1982 assassination attempt on the former dictator.

Saddam faces additional charges in a separate case over an alleged massacre of Kurdish civilians. It wasn't clear when a verdict would be announced in that other case, or when Saddam's sentence would be carried out. Before the trial began, one of Saddam's lawyers, former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark, was ejected from the courtroom after handing the judge a memorandum in which he called the Saddam trial a travesty.

Judge Raouf Abdul-Rahman pointed to Clark and said in English, "Get out."

Guarding against violence, Baghdad was placed under a total curfew, with shops shuttered and pedestrians and vehicles almost completely absent from the streets of the city of six million people. Iraqi security forces and US troops mounted additional patrols, but no major incidents had been reported. "There is close cooperation between Iraqi and coalition forces in maintaining the curfew," Said police Maj. Mahir Hamad Mousa of the al-Khansa station in Baghdad's Jadeeda district ."We have fully prepared for this duty," he said.

The guilty verdict for Saddam is expected to enrage hard-liners among Saddam's fellow Sunnis, who made up the bulk of the former ruling class. The country's majority Shiites, who were persecuted under the former leader but now largely control the government, will likely view the outcome as a cause of celebration.

Even with the verdict imminent, Saddam's lawyers and some Sunni politicians had called for the court proceedings to be suspended.
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2006 06:34 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As I said in the earlier post, every effort must be made to insure that he doesn't evade the justice of the court through someone slipping him an 'herbal tea'.
Posted by: DanNY || 11/05/2006 6:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Saddam still has right of appeal + importance of date of execution as per any possible Dem takeover after 2008. IMHO, any plans by Radical Islam for so-called "Amer Hiroshima(s)" new terror events, espec against targets Dubya-GOP, is now paramount iff Amer's enemies intend to PC save Saddam's life.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/05/2006 7:10 Comments || Top||

#3 
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2006 7:19 Comments || Top||

#4  But is it going to be live on TV?
Posted by: phil_b || 11/05/2006 7:27 Comments || Top||

#5  Contents: rope, tree, deposed former tyrant, karmic retribution.
Assembly required.
Posted by: Mike || 11/05/2006 7:37 Comments || Top||

#6  Can they put that turd Ramsey Clark next to him?
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/05/2006 7:55 Comments || Top||

#7  Time to dig out your old They Might Be Giants records:

She wants to see you again
She wants to see you again
Slowly twisting in the wind
Twisting twisting in the wind
Posted by: Mike || 11/05/2006 8:09 Comments || Top||

#8  Joe is right -- the new Iraqi constitution mandates an automatic appeal of all death sentences.

This is going to drag on for a while. The Ba'athists may attempt (again) a dramatic rescue of him. They will certainly go after the Shias, and v.v., with greater intensity.

The key to how this unfolds is, I think, the Kurds. They want him dead and they want him dead as a criminal and they are willing (so far) to stay in a more-or-less unified Iraq to see that happen.
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2006 8:16 Comments || Top||

#9  "Get out!"

I just love it.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 11/05/2006 8:26 Comments || Top||

#10  ..Isaiah - a far better prophet than Mohammed ever was - said it best:

[15]Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
[16] They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
[17] That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
[18] All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
[19] But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
[20] Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.
[21] Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
[22] For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.
[23] I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 11/05/2006 8:46 Comments || Top||

#11  Can we also tell Ramsey Clark "Get Out" when he tries to return to the US?

What's he doing defending Sadam in the first place?
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/05/2006 8:46 Comments || Top||

#12  Just the latest in a series of dictators he has defended.

He hates the West so much, he will ally with ANYONE he sees as opposed to it, while convincing himself that he is the true defender of justice and fair play.
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2006 8:51 Comments || Top||

#13  In addition to defending Saddam, Clark has:

* co-founded A.N.S.W.E.R. and is associated with the Workers World Party

* said that history will show Slobodan Milosevic was right, and praised Milosevic and Saddam as courageous commanders fighting bigger countries

* defended massacres by Saddam on the grounds that when you have a war going on you need to act firmly

* affiliated with VoteToImpeach in an attempt to bring down the Bush administration
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2006 8:57 Comments || Top||

#14  Good. Now let us see if they actually go through with it.
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/05/2006 9:04 Comments || Top||

#15  Swing, Sammy.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/05/2006 10:11 Comments || Top||

#16  Wonder where he will be put in the ground?

Anyone else noticed that three of Sammy's lawyers have been killed. Clark has been left alone. Hum.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/05/2006 10:17 Comments || Top||

#17  Interestingly, Ramsey Clark was also AG under democrat President lyndon johnson.

He also worked on the blind sheik's defense team with the felon colabarator Lynn Stewart. In fact, the fbi had tried to get the translator to wear a wire so that they could get Clark also, but he declined and Clark continues to work against America.

In and of itself, defending criminals or terrorists is not anti-American. ramsey clark is anti-American because he hates and works agianst America at every possible turn.
Posted by: Lanny Ddub || 11/05/2006 10:30 Comments || Top||

#18  Judge Raouf Abdul-Rahman

This guy should be a lock for the Chuck Norris Cojones Award.
Posted by: Matt || 11/05/2006 10:45 Comments || Top||

#19  I would rather him rot in ail for the rest so we can forget about rather than make him into a Martyr!!!

I think invading Iraq has made Iran stonger.If i Could turn back time i would have hoped Bush invaded Iran as they are the bigger regional threat imho.
Posted by: Slinetle Unasing8609 || 11/05/2006 11:32 Comments || Top||

#20  "I'm swiiiinging in the rain"

/Gene Kelly
Posted by: Saddam Hussein || 11/05/2006 11:41 Comments || Top||

#21  Convicting Hussein for the death of 148 people feels like getting Capone on tax evasion charges, but hey whatever works. Die, bitch.

[recommended pic for future Hussein-related posts: can somebody lift a screencap of Hot Shots, at the end where the bomb falls on Hussein while he's in his lounge chair drinking a cocktail?]
Posted by: Vegas Matt || 11/05/2006 11:46 Comments || Top||

#22  On March 2, 1967, President Johnson appointed him to be Attorney General of the United States, an appointment probably influenced by Johnson's expectation that Clark's father, Associate Justice Tom C. Clark, would resign from the Supreme Court to avoid a conflict of interest. Johnson wanted a vacancy to be created on the Court so he could appoint Thurgood Marshall, the first African American justice. The elder Clark resigned from the supreme court on June 12, 1967.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsey_Clark
Posted by: Darrell || 11/05/2006 11:50 Comments || Top||

#23  OT: Hey, we've got a little Army of Matts forming here.
Posted by: Matt || 11/05/2006 12:14 Comments || Top||

#24  I'd love to see the video of the court bailiffs yanking Saddam up from his seat to face justice. A little hanging to go before the big one.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/05/2006 13:32 Comments || Top||

#25  "It was not wise and the government, not the court, has gone to the extreme with issuing this sentence, even in advance," Salih al-Mutlaq told the al-Arabiya satellite television station. "This government will be responsible for the consequences, with the deaths of hundreds, thousands or even hundreds of thousands, whose blood will be shed," Al-Mutlaq said.

The usual veiled terrorist threats. "Opposing our will shall cause the death of millions!" (And it will all be your fault!) So, just exactly what do they have in mind for Saddam? A spanking?
Posted by: Zenster || 11/05/2006 13:34 Comments || Top||

#26  Allahu akbar!
Posted by: gorb || 11/05/2006 13:41 Comments || Top||

#27  Arab-Americans celebrate the news in Dearborn, MI.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/05/2006 14:21 Comments || Top||

#28  So What. What it has to do with us? Our young nen and women are killed there for what?
Posted by: Annon || 11/05/2006 15:40 Comments || Top||

#29  Oh, maybe because Saddam posed a serious threat to us? What with his links to a variety of terror activities around the world.

You know, that sort of thing.
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2006 15:45 Comments || Top||

#30  About 6,000 US soldiers were killed in post-war Germany. The same question--for what?

If you can answer that one, then you can answer yours.

If you can't, then any further elaboration is meaningless.
Posted by: twobyfour || 11/05/2006 15:49 Comments || Top||

#31  U-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu!!!!

I'll wait until Amnesia International confirms the hanging with a sternly worded rebuke.
Posted by: Ptah || 11/05/2006 16:09 Comments || Top||

#32  "Life for the glorious nation, and death to its enemies!"
I don't think that's gonna mean what he thinks it means.
Posted by: Darrell || 11/05/2006 16:11 Comments || Top||

#33  Now serving number 56.
Step right up.
A short drop with a sudden stop.
Posted by: Capsu 78 || 11/05/2006 16:44 Comments || Top||

#34  I got an e-mail from a lefty that gives the compulsory, "Saddam deserves it, BUT"...(wrings hands) "oh the bloodshed that the evil Bush has wrought on the peaceful kite flying folk of Iraq .

I was tempted to write back ... but what is the point? For people like him, it's all about hating Bush, hating Cheney, and blaming Israel, America, Christians, and Rethuglicans.

For him and others like him, it is just a game where NPR and the MSM tells them what to say to be cool, and they repeat it.
Posted by: anon || 11/05/2006 16:49 Comments || Top||

#35  What we need is the Hangman from "Blazing Saddles". "Everyone is equal in my eye."
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 11/05/2006 16:50 Comments || Top||

#36  #4 But is it going to be live on TV?
Sorry, this one will be on Pay Per View.
Ramsey Clarke should be on the undercard, but not if means we would need to have Jimmy Carter as a ref. Participant, OK just not a ref.
Posted by: Capsu 78 || 11/05/2006 17:04 Comments || Top||


Journalist, five civilians killed, 4 Russians, 9 Iraqis wounded in violence
(KUNA) --
  • Three armed militants have murdered a reporter of a satellite television channel in Al-Aazameya in northern Baghdad, the Iraqi Press Freedom Watch said in a statement on Saturday. The independent press organization said Ahmed Al-Rasheed, 29 years, a former reporter of Addyar satellite channel and employed as a reporter by Al-Sharqia television channel recently, was shot dead by unknown militants late on Friday. The attack is part of recent escalating violence against reporters and media personnel, according to the organization that registered up to 155 murders of Iraqi journalists.

  • Meanwhile, unknown gunners, riding an Opel car, shot dead three civilians and injured five others west Baghdad on Saturday, according to security sources. Earlier in the day, four Iraqi civilians were injured in two separate car bombings that targeted U.S. patrols in Mosul, north Iraq, said a police source.

  • Also during the day, four Russian experts were slightly injured in a mortar attack in Basra, south Iraq, Saturday, according to Russian Itar-Tass News Agency. A mortar shell targeting a British military position in Basra, hit the working site of the Russian experts in Nagabiay thermoelectric station on outskirts of the city. Russia has evacuated most of its workers in Iraq since last June, when four of its diplomats were killed in Baghdad.

  • Director of operation room of Mosul police headquarters Colonel Abdul-Karim Al-Gabouri told reporters the security authorities released Sheikh Saleh Hammudi, chief of Iraqi Muslim Scholars Society Saturday, after a one-day detention.

  • A car bomb also exploded in Babel governorate, south Baghdad, killing two persons and wounding three others, a security source told KUNA on Saturday.

  • Masked gunmen carrying automatic rifles and RPGs attacked a public market and a residential area in Al-Zaafarana, south Baghdad. The attackers exchanged fire with policemen in the area and injured several civilians, according to police sources.

  • A U.S.-backed Iraqi special force broke into Sadr City Saturday and arrested a leader and two members of a group accused of perpetrating murder and abduction operations in the city. Four days ago, a siege around the district was lifted according to instructions by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki.

  • The U.S. army said in a statement that its troops arrested eight persons including three bodyguards of Falluja governor, west Baghdad, on suspicion of supporting insurgents.
The wave of car bombings and mortar attacks in Baghdad and other Iraqi cities came hours ahead of issuing court sentences against ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and his advisers in Al-Dujail case.

The Kirkuk police operation room reported 2,293 terrorist operations in the city in the first ten months of 2006, including abductions, car bombings, explosions and mortar attacks. The attacks led to 1,602 casualties, including 112 deaths among Iraqi police and army troops, and 92 civilian deaths as well as 1398 injured, including 334 police and army troops and the rest were civilians, according to the local police statistics.
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Iraqi police kill 53 terrorists, capture 16 others
(KUNA) -- The Iraqi police said Saturday they killed 53 terrorists and captured 16 others in southern Baghdad. Brigadier Abdulkareem Khalaf, a spokesman of the interior ministry, said the police forces attacked a group of terrorists in Tuwaitha area. Forces of the second brigades of the national police force besieged the terrorists and clashed with them for five hours. The Iraqi forces killed 53 terrorists and arrested 16 others during the operations, as well as seizing large quantities of weapons and explosives, added Khalaf.

The Iraqi government has tightened security measures a day before a special court is to announce the verdict against Saddam Hussein and seven of his henchmen on the case of Dujail.
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#1  Woohoo! The police did it themselves it seems!
Posted by: gorb || 11/05/2006 13:57 Comments || Top||


Sniper Attacks Adding to Peril of U.S. Troops
KARMA, Iraq, Nov. 3 — The bullet passed through Lance Cpl. Juan Valdez-Castillo as his Marine patrol moved down a muddy urban lane. It was a single shot. The lance corporal fell against a wall, tried to stand and fell again.

His squad leader, Sgt. Jesse E. Leach, faced where the shot had come from, raised his rifle and grenade launcher and quickly stepped between the sniper and the bloodied marine. He walked backward, scanning, ready to fire.

Shielding the marine with his own thick body, he grabbed the corporal by a strap and dragged him across a muddy road to a line of tall reeds, where they were concealed. He put down his weapon, shouted orders and cut open the lance corporal’s uniform, exposing a bubbling wound.

Lance Corporal Valdez-Castillo, shot through the right arm and torso, was saved. But the patrol was temporarily stuck. The marines were engaged in the task of calling for a casualty evacuation while staring down their barrels at dozens of windows that faced them, as if waiting for a ghost’s next move.

This sequence on Tuesday here in Anbar Province captured in a matter of seconds an expanding threat in the war in Iraq. In recent months, military officers and enlisted marines say, the insurgents have been using snipers more frequently and with greater effect, disrupting the military’s operations and fueling a climate of frustration and quiet rage.

Continued on Page 49
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#1 
Posted by: Shipman || 11/05/2006 7:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Lord Haw-Haw, Ship?

If so, utterly appropriate
Posted by: N guard || 11/05/2006 8:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Omygod, they're undefeatable! How could anyone stand to those Mighty Lions of Islam? Doomed! No way out!
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/05/2006 13:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Hé hé, NYT.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/05/2006 13:33 Comments || Top||

#5  I found this particular NYT piece pretty reasonable. Well documented; actual people and events. Not even a ridiculous amount of spin - it is a fact that snipers are a problem and that 'easy' solutions have not been found. NYT does not claim it is a catasrophic or hopeless problem, nor that it leaves the Marines quivering in terror; it's just what war is.
On the other hand, I found at least four statements I would call genuinely sympathetic to the good guys.
1) "the Iraqi snipers have showed unexceptional marksmanship"
2) "the sniper fired from the other side of a canal, among civilians"
3) "shot in the back as he helped a small girl across a street. The plate saved him"
4) "the snipers fired from among civilians. The marines did not fire back."
I am not familiar with the author - Chevers? - worth looking for again.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/05/2006 15:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Most "snipers" are not.
Posted by: pihkalbadger || 11/05/2006 15:51 Comments || Top||

#7  'easy' solutions have not been found

Systems will be going over soon that will help address this issue. Not in every case, but in many of them. I can say no more!
Posted by: Remoteman || 11/05/2006 16:53 Comments || Top||

#8  Good to know, Remoteman, even if we don't know anything more than we did before. Thank you! ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/05/2006 17:54 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
IAF destroys Kassam rocket launchers in n. Gaza
The IAF destroyed launchers in the northern Gaza Strip used earlier Saturday to fire Kassam rockets at Israel. Seven Kassam rockets landed Saturday evening in the western Negev. One of the rockets landed inside Kibbutz Sa'ad; several people suffered shock. There were no other reports of injuries or damage.
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Palestinians attack soldiers with bomb near Nablus
Palestinian assailants attacked soldiers operating near Nablus with explosives. The soldiers were not harmed.
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IDF nabs Fatah fugitive northwest of Ramallah
IDF soldiers arrested a female Fatah fugitive northwest of Ramallah on Saturday night. The IDF said that the woman planned to carry out a suicide bombing, but no explosives belt was found in her possession. The suspect was detained by security forces for interrogation.
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IDF nabs 3 fugitives after W. Bank siege
As the IDF concluded a 19-hour siege on a Gaza Strip mosque, three Islamic Jihad fugitives were arrested in the West Bank on Friday after the IDF razed a Bethlehem building in which the men had been hiding. An 80-year-old Palestinian woman was killed when she was caught in the crossfire between the fugitives inside the building and IDF soldiers and Border Police that were surrounding the building, Palestinian sources said. Two other residents were reported wounded. The troops repeatedly called on the fugitives to surrender and fired an anti-tank missile at the home in order to try and force them out.

One of the border policeman was wounded in his eye by shrapnel and listed in light to moderate condition. Israel Radio reported that two IDF companies had been sent to the area to reinforce the Border Police unit. Meanwhile, Palestinian youths rioted in the vicinity, throwing stones and Molotov cocktails at soldiers. The troops returned fire, wounding five of the rioters.

Elsewhere in the West Bank on Friday, IDF troops operating in Nablus killed an Aksa Martyrs Brigades commander - Ahmad Sanakra, 14 - and seriously wounded his brother.The army said that the two were attempting to wire a car with a large amount of explosives.
A 14-year-old is an al-Aqsa Martyr commander? I hope that's a typo.
They start training them early, just see the photos at LGF.
In Ramallah, the IDF arrested the Abdel Rahman Zidan of Hamas, the PA's Public Works and Housing Minister. PA Prime Minister Ismail Hanieh called the arrest an attack on Palestinian legitimacy and an attempt to destroy the PA.
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#1  July 7th 2005....IOF noticed two Palestinian gunmen in the alleys and immediately opened fire at the two gunmen. One of the gunmen, 18-year-old Khaled Mohammed al-Musaimi, was killed instantly by a live bullet to the head. The other gunman, 18-year-old Ahmed Mohammed Sanakra, was wounded by shrapnel to the abdomen
Same one, not so lucky this time, perhaps?
Posted by: Classer || 11/05/2006 7:53 Comments || Top||


7 Kassams land in western Negev; no casualties
Seven Kassam rockets, fired from the Gaza Strip, landed in the western Negev throughout Saturday night. Six of the rockets fell in open territory near the Gaza-Israel border fence, while one landed in a kibbutz in the area, causing slight damage to a building. No casualties were reported.
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Death toll rises to 44 in Israel's Gaza offensive
(dpa) - Palestinians killed in the Gaza Strip on Saturday boosted the death toll to at least 44 by Palestinian accounts since the start of Israel’s large-scale ground operation. More than 150 others have been wounded, according to Palestinian health officials Saturday. In the latest incidents, a 12 year-old girl and 17-year-old boy were killed Saturday night by Israeli gunfire in the northern Gaza Strip town of Beit Hanoun, medics said.
I don't think the Paleos have any sympathy left in that area for another week or two, after the Ladies' Rescue Brigade incident. It'll take a while for that to fade from the international community's attention span.
Two Islamic Hamas members were also killed Saturday afternoon after an Israeli aircraft struck a group of militants with a missile east of Jabalia refugee camp in northern Gaza Strip, medical sources said. Palestinian eyewitnesses said that an Israeli army drone fired a missile at two Islamic Hamas militants east of the refugee camp while they were trying to launch a homemade rocket from northern Gaza Strip at Israel. Medics said that the two men, brothers aged 25 and 23, were dead on arrival at Kamal Odwan Hospital near Jabalia. No further injuries were reported.
That's too bad, though I suppose to be fair no further injuries were required.
In the central Gaza Strip, another group of Islamic Jihad militants escaped unharmed after an Israeli aircraft targeted their car, said eyewitnesses. The group managed to jump to safety before the rocket struck the car.
"Mahmoud! The American-made Apache helicopter has launched a missile!"
"Where was the missile made, Ahmed?"
"I don't know! Jump!"
Earlier Saturday, Moaweya Hassanein of the Palestinian Ministry of Health told reporters that he expected the number of casualties to mount as the Israeli army operation continues. “The Israeli army is using all kinds of weapons and ammunition against the Palestinians,” said Hassanein, adding that the Israeli army killed “women, children, paramedics and ambulance drivers.”
"They fire missiles from their American-made Apache helicopters with wild abandon! With my own eyes I have seen the pathetic, crushed bodies of the women, the children, the paramedics, the ambulance drivers, the puppies, the kittens, the baby ducks! Even fluffy bunnies are not safe from their lust for blood!"
However, an Israeli army spokesman said that most of those killed were militants and had been involved in launching homemade rockets from the Gaza Strip at Israel. Israeli army operations continued in the northern Gaza Strip for the fourth consecutive day, mainly in the town of Beit Hanoun.
"We're from DPA! We know you're lying! We're not taking your statements at face value!"
"Avner! Stomp his ducky!"
"[QUACK!]"
Palestinian medics at al-Awda Hospital in the northern Gaza Strip said one Palestinian was killed on Saturday morning by Israeli aircraft strikes, and rescue teams found the body of another Palestinian, who was killed two days ago.
"Mustafa! Send out a rescue team! I haven't seen Mahmoud for a couple days now!"
Dozens of Israeli army tanks, bulldozers and armoured vehicles stormed the town on Wednesday, completely seizing it. A curfew was imposed on the town, and Israeli soldiers are conducting house- to- house searches.
[KNOCK KNOCK!]
"Who's there?"
"It's the Zionists! Open up!"
"You shall not enter my house, built on sacred land, infidels!"
"Avner! Stomp the duck!"
[QUACK!]
"Open up or the fluffy bunny gets it!"
In northern Gaza City Saturday morning, a senior Islamic Hamas movement militant was killed in his car in an Israeli airstrike, eyewitnesses said. Eyewitnesses said that Louai al-Bourno, 32, was killed immediately when his car was directly hit by a missile.
"Aaaaiiiieee! It is a missile! It was made in... made in... [KABOOM!]"
The ruling Islamic group Hamas said it mourned al-Bourno, who was a commander in al-Qassam Brigades, the movement’s armed wing, and an expert in manufacturing homemade rockets.
"Yeah, buddy. Things just ain't gonna be the same without old al-Bourno around!"
"There, there, Your Immensity! Don't take it so hard!"
The Israeli army said the aim of the operation into the northern Gaza Strip was to rein in Palestinian militants and prevent them from launching homemade rockets at Israel. Several Palestinian militant groups said they will not stop launching rockets at Israel, and vowed to carry out more revenge attacks.
"Yar! Y'll never stop us from launching rockets in yer general direction, Zionists!"
Okay, how's about we stand right here near your buddies then.
In the West Bank, an Israeli army force killed Saturday morning the commander of Islamic Jihad armed wing in the West Bank city of Bethlehem, Palestinian security sources and eyewitnesses reported.
[KNOCK KNOCK!]
"Who's there?"
"It the Zionists! Open up!"
"Youse'll never take me alive, infidels!"
"Hokay. [KABOOM!]"
Meanwhile, negotiations to swap Cpl. Gilad Shalit for Palestinian prisoners are threatened because Israel insists on selecting the prisoners it would release if the deal is achieved, local Palestinian media reported. The Maan news agency quoted an unidentified source as saying Israel is sticking to a condition that it can select the Palestinian prisoners to be released, while the captors of the Israeli soldier are demanding the same right. According to the source, the negotiations sponsored by Egypt were still in the early phases and were unlikely to be concluded soon. The Palestinian minister of foreign affairs in the Hamas-led government, Mahmoud al-Zahar, warned in a statement that the continuation of Israeli attacks on northern Gaza Strip, “would endanger the life of the captive soldier Gilad Shalit.”
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#1  Go ahead, kill your hostage, then see what happens.
Posted by: Perfesser || 11/05/2006 6:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Almost any body count could be there and nobody would care.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/05/2006 11:33 Comments || Top||


Olde Tyme Religion
"Obsession: The Threat of Radical Islam."
Malkin.

Closer to home, Fox News airs the first half of the documentary, "Obsession: The Threat of Radical Islam." The trailer is here in case you missed it.

Maybe it's not too late.
Posted by: Elmoluse Snoth5568 || 11/05/2006 08:16 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  An eye opener for most of them.

Islam - turning the world into a militant state, one country at a time.

So peaceful, loving, and soulfull.
Posted by: closedanger@hotmail.com || 11/05/2006 8:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Very good, on the money all the way through.

The people who need to watch it were watching the Comedy Channel.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2006 9:17 Comments || Top||

#3  Yes, I think airing it on FNC is preaching to the choir, it would have been much more useful as an educational tool if it had been aired on the very same channels which would/will NEVER broadcast it.
Now, is that sad, or ironical?
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/05/2006 9:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Every cut and run liberal should be tied to a chair and forced to watch this film. I'm still willing to bet they would come out hating Bush.

Wonder what the terrorist over at CAIR will have to say about this coverage. Good for Fox!
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/05/2006 10:09 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm not sure they were only preaching to the choir. It always surprises me how many people do not grasp that Islam is a war against us that is being conducted state by state or even know what the word Caliphate means. Many of those are FOX watchers too. True - most probably didn't see the show, but it will filter back to them.
Posted by: anon || 11/05/2006 10:10 Comments || Top||

#6  I agree with #5

There are a lot of fox viewers, even movement conservatives who do not understand the threat.

Also, even more importantly, this was, to my knowledge, the first time a major media outlet has given any significant time to apostates from Islam (I've written the WPost over 4 times asking politely for this kind of coverage).

Consider also that a lot of the holding company that owns Fox is held by Saudis (although the kind of secular Saudis who would be executed under a true and vigorous sharia system).
Posted by: mhw || 11/05/2006 10:43 Comments || Top||

#7  Nothing but good news here. The American viewing public will need to sit through over 100 airings of "Obsession" for it to even begin to sink in. This was the first of those 100. When "Obsession" is finally running on PBS we will know that there has been some progress made.

Nor was it preaching to the choir. I know people who voted for Bush and yet have ZERO comprehension of what is really going on with Islam's assault on the West. Rest assured that I'm trying to get them to sit still long enough to watch a copy of the film.

Consider also that a lot of the holding company that owns Fox is held by Saudis (although the kind of secular Saudis who would be executed under a true and vigorous sharia system).

Much of the Arab world does not regard the Saudi Royals as true Muslims. They are referred to as "Gulfies" and seen as a bunch of spoiled jet-setting hedonistic rich kids. The Saudis maintain a veneer of respectability through their pact with the Wahhabi devils. These fanatics are so puritanical that they would just as soon take the ornately decorated mosaic walls of Mecca's shrine and whitewash them over to prevent idolatry.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/05/2006 13:09 Comments || Top||

#8  The royal family is split. While most fit your description, there is a true believer group centered around Nayaf and they run, among other things, the interior ministry. He is extraordinarily powerful in the Kingdom, arguably more powerful than the king. He spends a few months each year in the desert in a Bedouin tent. Don't make the mistake of thinking he is a decadent fool -- he is the source of most of the Wahabist funding.
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2006 13:40 Comments || Top||

#9  there is a true believer group centered around Nayaf and they run, among other things, the interior ministry. He is extraordinarily powerful in the Kingdom, arguably more powerful than the king.

Off him them first.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/05/2006 13:43 Comments || Top||

#10  You can try. He runs the internal security apparatus, controls who gets to make hadj, represents the kingdom at WTO and other international meetings and has the strong backing of the most fanatical tribes. I don't doubt that there have been attempts on his life by others in the royal family. He's alive and in some cases their oldest sons aren't. Try to take him out and it will be your wife, kids, brothers who die. You might even get the DVD of their agony.

He's ruthless and as I've said, very very powerful.
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2006 13:46 Comments || Top||

#11  Nothing that couldn't stop an insertion team or a cruise missile. Nayaf's control of the Haj alone makes him into a facilitator of Wahhabist indoctrination that is poisoning the minds of millions each year. Saudi Arabia's massive petrodollar wealth is funneled into flying passenger jet loads of neophytes from all around the MME (Muslim Middle East) and Asia for programming while in Mecca during the Haj. As gatekeeper for this mind-control fiesta, Nayaf immediately needs to assume room temperature.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/05/2006 13:57 Comments || Top||

#12  Cruise missile, maybe. Insertion team, almost certainly not.

Nayaf controls the internal security apparatus in the Kingdom -- the police, the morals police, the spies, the intelligence gatherers. Reports are that a lot of people with a lot more local cover and opportunity have not been able to kill him. I seriously doubt that an American team would get a chance, unless he felt he could both survive the incident and use it to his advantage.
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2006 14:37 Comments || Top||

#13  So, let's cut to the chase, lotp, would you prefer that Nayaf continues to steal oxygen from far more deserving organisms like lice, ticks and cockroaches?
Posted by: Zenster || 11/05/2006 14:52 Comments || Top||

#14  Who said anything about preferences? I'm simply pointing out that your proposal is less than practical. It's one thing to sit at a keyboard and say that this very powerful official in another country should be "taken out". It's quite another thing to execute that, even if we assume that we would take the decision to accept the international consequences of assasinating a senior member of another government.
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2006 14:56 Comments || Top||

#15  Who said anything about preferences?

I did. Do you really think that we have the time to go about removing all of the terrorism sponsoring tyrants in the same excruciating fashion that America ousted Saddam Hussein?

It's quite another thing to execute that, even if we assume that we would take the decision to accept the international consequences of assasinating a senior member of another government.

Decapitation of governments that sponsor terrorism is one of the few actions that will ever deliver the required results within the time span necessary. Just as how only a program of summarily executing jihadist Islamic clergy will make any significant dent in pro-terrorism propaganda and the recruiting of new jihadis.

Governments that indulge in massive human rights abuses (a description of the leadership in nearly all Muslim majority nations), are not entitled to honorable sovereignty. They exist solely by the force of might and are the rightful target of any free nation who feels the urge to remove them.

Disregarding the routine violation of political and religious dissidents' human rights, the way MME (Muslim Middle East) countries abuse the vast majority of their women populations is sufficient reason alone to topple their governments. Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons and its destabilizing effect upon the entire MME is one of the few examples that exceeds the urgency of stopping Abject Gender Apartheid. That Iran is also a premier sponsor of international terrorism only cements the case against them.

Do you honestly think there will ever be any sort of global concensus that avoids the perceprtion of American unilateralism as we go about protecting ourselves from Islam's assault upon the West? Russia, China and France, all by themselves, will incessantly interfere with any attempts to overthrow terrorist sponsoring nations. Do you suggest that we sit idly by and await how many more 9-11 atrocities due to their stubborn opposition?

Iran and Syria, along with, perhaps, North Korea, sit at the forefront of our fight against terrorism. Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are the next tier of facilitators that must be removed thereafter. This is not blue-sky thinking, this is a realistic appraisal of how America and Europe are going to withstand the onslaught of Islamic terrorism.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/05/2006 15:29 Comments || Top||

#16  What is outrageous here is not the Fox covered this, good on them for so doing, but rather the absolute absence of mention about the show anywhere else. Even for an opposition paper like the Slimes or the WaPo, a comment about such a powerful piece should have at least raised their PC "racism" hackles. The willing suppression of coverage is very, very scary. We are on the edge of a Dem return to power and even more PC BS coming out of DC, with what little spine the Republican have left being spent as they draw the wrong reaction to the election (yet again).
Posted by: JustAboutEnough || 11/05/2006 15:29 Comments || Top||

#17  I'm sure we know when Najaf's out playing Bedouin. We know when he's not. A large thermonuclear blast over Riyadh during the "not" period will do a world of good in every respect. The house of saud will become the house of glass. The few survivors will pray for death. Pass the word that if there's EVER a nuclear explosion in the US, it won't matter who it's from, Mecca gets an even larger bomb. Send the word to Qom that unless there are major changes in Iran, they will also see a 3AM sunrise. These people only understand power. Show them the ultimate power, and the will to use it, and they will shut up - or die.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/05/2006 16:51 Comments || Top||

#18  "These people only understand power."
I think they'll see some shortly after Tuesday. I sure wouldn't want to work at an Iranian nuke facility.
Posted by: Darrell || 11/05/2006 16:54 Comments || Top||

#19  Old Patriot, while I also foresee a nuclear scenario, it is under different circumstances. It still remains important that America retain the moral high ground in terms of first use of nuclear weapons. We should not initiate their deployment, even against the sponsors of terrorism. Only in response.

What seems absolutely cut in stone is that Islam simply cannot stop itself from eventually committing some sort of astounding atrocity that will absolutely require nuclear retaliation. In the case of Saudi Arabia, I agree with you; Hit Riyadh first and reserve the shrines of Mecca and Medina as playing cards in further negotiations.

As for Iran, the mullahs long ago exhausted all patience that they might have once deserved. Tehran or Qom could go and it would mean squat. The Iraqi Shiites have their own shrines.

Pass the word that if there's EVER a nuclear explosion in the US, it won't matter who it's from, Mecca gets an even larger bomb.

Whether we hit Riyadh or not, this message needs to be sent anyway. Islam must have some sort of loaded gun pointed at its head before it will even begin to consider reining in their terrorist minons. We must make clear that there is a drastic price to pay for not doing so.

Without significant and genuine reform, Islam will bring upon itself the Muslim holocaust. I can only hope America's leadership will have the backbone when that time comes. Any inaction at that point will doom the West.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/05/2006 17:15 Comments || Top||

#20  Based on tales Anonymoose and others have told, it doesn't sound like warning them will do any good -- they simply are not capable of believing that we would actually do so, and anyway Allah will not allow us to harm his favourite sons. Nothing less than the actually being on the receiving end -- repeatedly -- will effect that particular lesson.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/05/2006 21:04 Comments || Top||

#21  Word, tw. We must make it so.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/05/2006 21:43 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Jihadis strike karaoke lounges in southern Thailand
Six people, including two police officers and four civilians, were wounded as bomb explosions tore through two karaoke lounges in a hotbed of the Muslim insurgency in southern Thailand, police said Sunday.

The homemade bombs exploded within minutes of each other Saturday night at lounges in Tak Bai district of Narathiwat province, scene of an anti-government rally two years ago in which 85 Muslim protesters died at the hands of security forces, said police Lt. Thepsin Sahadhud. Police rushed to the scenes of the explosions when another homemade bomb planted on the roadside exploded, Thepsin said. "The third bomb was apparently targeted at police, but fortunately no one was injured from the third bomb," he said.

One bomb was hidden under a sofa in the James Bond lounge, shaking, not stirring injuring two police officers, while the second went off at the Regency Karaoke lounge, located about 50 meters (yards) away, police said. Four persons were hurt in the second lounge.

In a separate incident late Saturday, Doming Mudo, 45, a local administration official, was shot dead in Pattani province, said police Col. Somchit Nasomyon.
Posted by: ryuge || 11/05/2006 00:42 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just because the people can't sing to well they don't need to blow them up!
Shezz talk about touchy!
Posted by: 3dc || 11/05/2006 0:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Looks like Thailand will be drawn into civil war in he next 6 months.
Posted by: Glang Omang4829 || 11/05/2006 3:10 Comments || Top||

#3  Ya know after watching "Obsession: The Threat of Radical Islam on FOX tonight these @!$@% Dealt the BLOWS that they can understad
Posted by: p4k || 11/05/2006 4:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Ya know after watching "Obsession: The Threat of Radical Islam on FOX tonight these @!$@% they need to be Dealt the BLOWS that they can understad
Posted by: p4k || 11/05/2006 4:39 Comments || Top||

#5  Thank God there was a coup. I don't know what these terrorist would of done if the new goverment did'nt let them alone.
Posted by: plainslow || 11/05/2006 7:37 Comments || Top||

#6  The relgion of pieces.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/05/2006 7:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Ah sp, "religion" my bad. How about the death cult of Muhamhead.

It would be interesting to see the historical movement. Just how the hell did Thailand end up with Muslimes? With the bloody history of India and Islam one might think Thailand might have taken note.

But then there is London, Paris and shaking my head, the USA. The disease spreads where ignorace is confused with tolerance.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/05/2006 7:53 Comments || Top||

#8  The key word isn't "karaoke", but "lounge". Wanna bet there were men and women in the same room? And that alcohol was served? Maybe even some pork products?
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/05/2006 9:04 Comments || Top||

#9  Like Frank says; For every one of these attacks just off an imam or cleric and watch them come to a seething screeching halt.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/05/2006 13:39 Comments || Top||


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7 Taliban militants killed in S. AfghanistanJapan, S. Korean ministers set for nuke talksGerman deputy threatened after attack on headscarvesPakistan's MMA warns of jihad against US if killings not stoppedIraqi police kill 53 terrorists, capture 16 othersDeath toll rises to 44 in Israel's Gaza offensiveUK Christians ask if force is needed to protect their religious values
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#2  AMTRAC sleeper for me next trip.
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#3  Blonde(ll)s have more fun!
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