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Caribbean-Latin America
Mexico not worried about terrorists
At a plaza by the international bridge in Reynosa Mexican citizens are more concerned about celebrating their country's independence then they are wondering if terrorists are gathering here. Juana Rivas Martinez like many Mexican nationals plans to celebrate el diez y seis all month long marking Mexico's independence from Spain. "Well right now we're preoccupied with the fiesta," Juana says through a translator. So far, Martinez and even Reynosa police claim they have no news about terror cells living along the border. "We really haven't heard anything," said Reynosa police officer Roberto Cantu Aregulline. "We're continuing to collect our protection money like always."

Thursday, members of Congress went on the record in Brownsville that al Qaeda terrorists could be mobilizing across our border. But, it's a claim U.S. Border Patrol has not officially acknowledged. "We'll first of all the information has to be confirmed. If the information comes into us, we'll contact the FBI, we'll contact ICE, contact our counterparts in Mexico's," said Border Patrol spokesman Eddie Flores.

When asked if there was a communication gap about the intelligence Flores referred us to Department of Homeland Security Commissioner Robert Bonner who responded only by saying: "U.S. Customs and border protection is addressing the terrorist threat 24 hours a day. We have a multi-layered approach that encompasses working with our foreign counterparts, employing intelligence, technology, advanced information in the field and the most dedicated law enforcement workforce world wide." Border Patrol agents in McAllen tell us if they do get intelligence to support any of these claims, they will shift and adjust manpower immediately. But so far say they haven't seen anything to support the claims. And it seems neither have our neighbors down south.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 09/04/2004 1:47:47 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "We really haven’t heard anything," said Reynosa police officer Roberto Cantu Aregulline. "We’re continuing our protection like always."

What "protection"? Mexico is only a transit point, so there's no real reason for them to pay any attention to what's going on in their backyard. Whatever passes for border control in Mexico along the border with the U.S. is a joke. If terrorists are sneaking through, why should they care? As for their own citizens illegally crossing the border, well, with all the money they send back, shooting themselves in the foot would be rather stupid...
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 09/04/2004 3:48 Comments || Top||

#2  "Manana". Yep. If a team slips through the border and causes any havoc, be sure to understand the border will close tighter than you ever thought possible. All those unemployed will stack up on your side of the border trying unsuccessfully to get north will turn into the tinder long needed to burn out the corruption and xenophobia that is the governing body of Mexico. No politician on this side of the border will be in any position to bail you out then. Sleep well and put it off till manana.
Posted by: Don || 09/04/2004 16:49 Comments || Top||

#3  I guess we need to stop considering Mexico sovereign territory anymore and operate there if we need too. Same for Canuckland.
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 09/04/2004 17:01 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Top Chinese official to visit North Korea next week
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 13:26 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Colin Powell sent the Chinese a message this week, letting them know that *South* Korea had fiddled around with building nuclear something-or-other. This plays off the serious Chinese revelation that if the Norks get nukes, the South Korea, Japan, and even Taiwan will get them before you can say "Jark Lobinson." This puts the Chinese in the unpleasant position of *not knowing*--something the Chinese abhor a lot more than sitting on the Norks. It would be a drag to throw a few missiles at Taiwan, then all of a sudden sunrise comes early.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/04/2004 14:39 Comments || Top||

#2  We could save South Korea a lot of effort by just charging them a small annual fee for continuous targeting of the North Korean military facilities of their choice with some of our ICBMs.
Posted by: Tom || 09/04/2004 20:53 Comments || Top||


North Korea urges U.N. and Red Cross to stop South Korea from taking refugees
Posted by: Michael Sheehan || 09/04/2004 12:19 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Is this so they can get their stories straight?
Posted by: Douglas De Bono || 09/04/2004 22:32 Comments || Top||

#2  "they're on a diet, not starving, yeah.....that's the ticket! All adults should weigh less than 40 Kilos"
Posted by: Frank G || 09/04/2004 22:45 Comments || Top||

#3  The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. In this case, the other side of the fence is the south side.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/04/2004 23:24 Comments || Top||


South Korea sez they have no nuke program
Officials in South Korea continued Friday to try to assure the world that the nation had no nuclear arms program, with its top nuclear researcher saying government scientists had enriched a speck of uranium "smaller than a sesame seed" merely "to satisfy their curiosity." "Some misunderstood this experiment as a step to build nuclear weapons, but atomic energy experts would probably laugh at such claims," Chang In Soon, director of the Korea Atomic Energy Research Institute, the government laboratory where the experiment took place, told the Seoul newspaper JoongAng Ilbo. Acknowledging that his institute was not authorized to enrich uranium, he said the scientists performed the work using equipment that had been assembled for a different experiment.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 09/04/2004 2:23:19 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "smaller than a sesame seed"
Wonder how big a"Bunker Buster"that would make?
Posted by: Raptor || 09/04/2004 9:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Better hope George w. dosent read this articale,
we dont have enough troops to send right now!
Posted by: Roger || 09/04/2004 17:07 Comments || Top||


S. Korea admits it has enriched uranium
The South Korean government admitted to the International Atomic Energy Agency days ago that its scientists secretly produced a small amount of near-weapons-grade uranium, raising suspicions that the country may have attempted a secret program to counter North Korea's nuclear arsenal. The revelation, disclosed by the United Nations' IAEA on Thursday, could greatly complicate the confrontation with North Korea over its nuclear weapons program.
snip. Details. It seems to me it would make discussions simpler, if not easier.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/04/2004 12:51:49 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It seems that the SKors are just saying that they have the ability and technology to make nukes if they had to. They can come clean with the Cluseaus IAEA now, and everyone can be in a tizzy, and all the inspections can show that they have no current program, but they have made their point.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/04/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||


Europe
Russia angered by EU request
Russia has denounced as "blasphemous" a request by the European Union's Dutch presidency for an explanation for the bloody end to a mass hostage seizure at a school by Chechen gunmen.
Bot gonna get bopped?
But Dutch Foreign Minister Bernard Bot, who made the request in a statement on Friday on behalf of the EU presidency, said on Saturday he had been misunderstood and he would try to calm the row by talking to his Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov. "There obviously was a misunderstanding," Bot told a news conference after a meeting of EU foreign ministers in the Netherlands. "My words have been misinterpreted. I never said that I needed to be ... informed."
The only misunderstanding that's happening is your own misunderstanding of concepts like decency...
More than 320 people, almost half of them children, were found dead after troops stormed a school on Friday in the southern Russian town of Beslan, where Chechen separatists had held more than 1,000 hostages for 53 hours. In a statement issued in the name of the EU presidency on Friday, Bot said all countries should work together to stop such tragedies, adding: "We also would like to know from the Russian authorities how this tragedy could have happened." The Russian Foreign Ministry reacted with outrage to Bot's statement, and Interfax news agency said the Dutch ambassador had been summoned to the ministry to explain.
You got some 'splainin to do, Lucy!
"Mr Bot's elaborations are an absolute contrast with the wide international support and solidarity with Russia in these tragic days," a ministry statement said. "Inappropriate statements by the Dutch minister look odious ... and blasphemous. We expect explanations from the Dutch side."
I'd call that an appropriate reaction. Certainly it was the reaction here.
Bot said had only sought more information from Moscow and had not intended to criticise. "I will certainly set the record straight with my colleague Lavrov later in the day," he said.
...then I will endeavor to keep my job.
At Valkenburg in the Netherlands, where the EU ministers were meeting, Swedish Foreign Minister Laila Freivalds told reporters she understood the Russian reaction and Irish Foreign Minister Brian Cowen said it would be "a very premature and wrong judgment" to fault the Russian security forces.
Besides, they have all those tanks and we've already pissed off our American friends!
Posted by: MrO || 09/04/2004 4:11:25 PM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How did this guy get appointed the Foreign Minister? Aren't foreign ministers supposed to play good cop? This must be some kind of new EUnuch approach to foreign relations - a bad cop, bad cop strategy. If these guys will go hat in hand to Iran, why are they thumbing their noses to Russia?
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/04/2004 16:49 Comments || Top||

#2  "And may we remind you that an attack upon one NATO country would be viewed as an attack against all NATO countries. Right, Tony? Right, George?... C'mon, guys, this is no time to be playing around."
Posted by: Matt || 09/04/2004 16:54 Comments || Top||

#3  These are sophisticated Europeans who understand how to communicate with other cultures using nuance instead of the arrogance that comes so naturally to cowboys. When the Americans elect Kery, they too can look forward to being served by equally sensitive diplomats.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 09/04/2004 16:58 Comments || Top||

#4  [Among over 350 dead] of those who died from gunshot wounds, most were shot in the back as they fled the building, he said.
EMPAHSIS ADDED

Putin should ask Bot to explain that statistic. Equally important is how Putin must now sever all ties with Iran. If he cannot do that, some degree of blame must be assumed by him, if not for Beslan, then for the next terror attack that is sure to come. Iran's hive of terror relies on Putin's assistance. He knows it, we know it and the world needs to know it as well.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/04/2004 17:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Interesting press conference by Putin broadcast on Estonian TV this evening.
The highlights -- and my Russian is poor -- is that he mea culpa'ed on the threat to Russia, that the government couldn't see this coming.
Plenty of video of Putin, dressed like Johnny Cash, visiting children in the hospitals.
He also made a statement to the effect that the gloves are off on Islamic terrorism.
Posted by: Baltic Blog || 09/04/2004 17:11 Comments || Top||

#6  ZF---This is more like dumb cop/dumb cop on the part of the foreign minister. With dumbass ideas like that, the EU ministers better watch their schools. Their local crop of jihadis could start playing monkey see/monkey do. I am so upset over the murder and traumatizing of all these kids that I can hardly think straight.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/04/2004 17:14 Comments || Top||

#7  Actually, it COULD be taken as: "Could you tell us the mechanics of how they did it?", with an eye for forming an EU committee to look into countermeasures and develop a unified response, by which time any suggestions would be moot and implementation pointless since the entire continent would be under Sharia law by that time...
Posted by: Ptah || 09/04/2004 17:16 Comments || Top||

#8  The Euro politicians will be more and more on the hands of islam as more inhabitants (=voters) of their countries have the islam as a religion. So don't be surprised by the stupid statements of a Dutch politician that represents a country that will have an islamic majority within the next 100 years.
Posted by: Dutchgeek || 09/04/2004 17:21 Comments || Top||

#9  Actually, it COULD be taken as: "Could you tell us the mechanics of how they did it?"

Except that's not how it was meant.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/04/2004 17:21 Comments || Top||

#10  Robert Crawford---Why couldn't Bot just issue a statement of outrage, support, and sympathy, and go through quiet channels to ask about how things happen? Seems elementary, Watson.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/04/2004 17:26 Comments || Top||

#11  Dum ole me, but I thought it was stock in trade of diplomats to be clear, tactful, and resourceful in their communications. I just checked Babel Fish. The English translation of the Dutch word "bot" is "bone". Must be short for bonehead.
Posted by: GK || 09/04/2004 17:57 Comments || Top||

#12  Dear Mr Putin

As a citizen of Eurostan, I can assure you that its politicians do indeed suck as much ass as the aptly-named Mr Bot's statement would suggest. Please use every ounce of your KGB fieldcraft skills to undermine and destroy the EU, as it is not only a heinous waste of taxpayers money, (which could be spent on fine Russian vodka instead), but a major security threat to the whole non-Muslim world, especially Russia.

Best wishes

Allan U. McBar
Posted by: Allan U. McBar || 09/04/2004 18:53 Comments || Top||

#13  Der Dutch have actually been quite active pursuing Islamofascists. This asshat's problem is he is now in the EU heirarchy and doesn't speak for the Netherlands.
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 09/04/2004 19:10 Comments || Top||

#14  "My words have been misinterpreted. I never said that I needed to be ... informed."

So why you askin' about it?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 09/04/2004 20:43 Comments || Top||

#15  The EU and the UN both breed a certain strain of bureaucrat that indulges in the delusion of significance. Look for chaos in the UN and EU once Putin finally realizes what W has known all along: these bureaucrats are bugs that need to be squashed.
Posted by: Tom || 09/04/2004 21:10 Comments || Top||

#16  For the love of God - don’t let Michael Moore get within 1000 miles of Beslan. He must be drooling at the prospect of “Bowling for Beslan”.

Posted by: Bill Nelson || 09/04/2004 21:13 Comments || Top||

#17  "For the love of God - don’t let Michael Moore get within 1000 miles of Beslan. He must be drooling at the prospect of “Bowling for Beslan"
You might want to rethink that. What do you think would happen to Michael Moore if he went there and started spouting his version of the "truth"?
Posted by: Lurks Often || 09/04/2004 21:53 Comments || Top||

#18  He'd be flayed alive by the locals.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 09/04/2004 23:20 Comments || Top||

#19  C_L You mean he'd be filleted by the locals, then fed to those dogs they were talking about awhile ago.

Go there Michael, please!

As to Bernard "lobotomy-Bait" Bot. Join Michael Moor, PLEASE!
Posted by: BigEd || 09/04/2004 23:48 Comments || Top||


EU Mulls Relations With Iran
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 13:02 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Oh, what shall we do?"

The word you're looking for is "dithering."
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#2  I think "haggling" is better. As in the Iranians haven't come anywhere near the personal bribes that Saddam offered. How do you expect a Euromandarin to maintain themselves in the style to which they have become accustomed with under $20M Euro/year? Starvation! Unfair!
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/04/2004 13:30 Comments || Top||

#3  maybe they can have a technology exchange in return for unemployable, uneducated future jihadis? Oh, wait this would be part 2 of that trade, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/04/2004 15:53 Comments || Top||

#4  Dutch Foreign Minister Ben Bot, whose country holds the EU presidency. "We cannot accept ... the development of weapons grade uranium" by Iran.

But questioning Russia as to why so many lives were lost to Islamist terrorists is just fine ... despite of the tremendous loss of life anticipated by Iran's accession to nuclear weaponry. @sshole!
Posted by: Zenster || 09/04/2004 20:04 Comments || Top||

#5  Didn't Pakistan steal its enrichment technology from a Dutch company? Man, these EU guys are slow learners!
Posted by: Tom || 09/04/2004 21:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Could someone please explain to me why the EU still thinks its relevant?
Posted by: Capt America || 09/04/2004 23:03 Comments || Top||

#7  Can someone please explain to me why intelligent realists in this country still think "the West" means anything?

In the middle east, France is on the other side. They've broadcast that nonstop to every arab and persian leader during their whirlwind tour these past twn days.

As regards Iran, Jack Straw and the other dwarves are undermining our efforts to contain Iraq. It's too late to prevent Iraq going nuclear, and it's impossible to persuade even the most supportive Europeans that the mullahs, not the Israelis, are the greatest threat to middle eastern stability.

Time for us to face the sobering fact that, in this war, the crucial allies are not the western democracies. And regarding containment of a nuclear Iran, the ewstern democracies are worse than useless.

Look eastward. Get f***ing serious, finally, about creating a deep and serious strategic relationship with Russia and India within a larger US-Turkey-Israel relationship.
Posted by: lex || 09/04/2004 23:29 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Minister cautions against U.S. insults
Canadians who casually insult the United States are putting jobs and the long-term economic health of this country at risk, Industry Minister David Emerson says. Asked about Liberal MP Carolyn Parrish's recent gibe about American "idiots," Emerson said, "I think we need to have a national discussion so that we eliminate any doubt from people's minds that we have a very, very important stake in our relationship with the United States."
She hates us bastards...
"And if we value our communities and our jobs and the jobs for our kids and our grandkids, we better come to terms with that."
That's why she hates us...
Last week, Parrish (Mississauga-Erindale) told a small demonstration on Parliament Hill in support of Liberal MPs who oppose Canadian participation in the U.S. missile defence program: "Make sure people understand, we are not joining the coalition of the idiots, we are joining the coalition of the wise." Parrish refused to withdraw the remark when asked to do so later by Prime Minister Paul Martin.
We can't make you, but we can make you wish you had...

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Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 11:41:13 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Blame Canada" from the movie "South Park"
South Park Parents

Times have changed,
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents,
They just want to fart and curse. Should we blame the government, or blame society, or should we blame the images on tv No!
Blame Canada! Blame Canada

With all their beady little eyes,
their flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
We need to form a full assault, it's Canada's fault! Don't blame me, for my son Stan, He saw the darn cartoon, and now he's off to
join the klan! And my boy eric once, had my picture on his shelf, but now when I see him, he tells me to f*** myself

Well, Blame Canada!

It seems that everything's gone wrong since
Canada came along
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada! They're not even a real country anyway. My son could of been a doctor or a lawyer, it's a true, Instead he burned up like a piggie on a barbecue. Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire, or the doctor who allowed him to expire. Heck no!
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
With all their hockey hubaloo and that b**** Anne Murray too. Blame Canada!
Shame on Canada!

The smut we must stop
The trash we must smash
Laughter and fun
must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming us!
Posted by: BigEd || 09/04/2004 0:43 Comments || Top||

#2  http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=6070015§ion=news Quote from the article:

Parrish, who had to apologise for her "bastards" remarks last year, at first denied using the term idiots, and when reporters pointed out they had her remarks on tape, she said: "I don't mean Americans are idiots."

"The world respects Canada. If we were to join this then it will be giving credibility to what they're doing," she said.

Parrish then begged reporters not to use the remarks: "Please guys don't put that on tape," she said. "I already got into trouble once.... Really, please, I've had enough trouble."

Posted by: lex || 09/04/2004 1:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Is this talking hamster claiming that missile defense will gain credibility because of CANADIAN participation? Such a being should be extremely careful around the word "idiots". I feel sorry for thoughtful reasonable Canadians. A decent and impressive country that first disarmed militarily and then drank deeply of the European-style dependent, free-riding, know-it-all morally narcissistic kool-aid.
Posted by: Verlaine || 09/04/2004 1:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Another export from Canada, people. Many Canadians depend on jobs physically in the US. With great educations many Canadians find there is no work for them in their own counrty and they come to the US to work. (Don't show up there looking for a job they are quite protectionist.)
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 09/04/2004 2:20 Comments || Top||

#5  We could always trade her for Al Sharpton. No free country's idiots can be prevented from being heard, only from doing something stupid.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 09/04/2004 7:31 Comments || Top||

#6  Al Sharpton isn't an idiot - he's a bastard. The biggest opportunist in the Five Boroughs. He's the primary reason there's been Republican Mayors for the last three terms running, in an overwhelmingly Democratic electorate.

If you listen to the man speak, he's smart as a whip. He's just totally lacking in principles or scruples.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 09/04/2004 9:44 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Walter Russell Mead grades Bush foreign policy
RTWT; covers the whole world, but this section stuck out.
... The real problem was Germany. It is interesting that the Kerry people have not made U.S.-German relations more of a focus, because, in fact, what has changed is that Germany sided with Paris rather than with Washington in this latest round. There are a lot of factors there, but I think the reality is that even before the invasion of Iraq, when Gerhard Schroeder was re-elected chancellor on a pledge to oppose Bush's policies no matter what, the die was cast. Bush at that point had not taken a lot of the steps seen as so provocative later.

Another factor is that Europe, in the last 10 years, believed it was strong and getting stronger and more important [as a result of] the euro and the development of European institutions. The United States was going to have to pay more attention to Europe. And in the United States, very quietly, I think both Democrats and Republicans were thinking maybe in the future we'll pay less attention to them. The Europeans are not spending money on their military. They are not a source of threat, but they are also not particularly willing to do a lot to help us beyond their own immediate interests. And on probably our biggest long-term issue, the future of Asia, Europe has no real interest. You could look at a country like India, which is concerned about the Middle East and about the future of China, and argue that the connections between American and Indian interests are greater than the connection between American and European interests in the future.

This is a tectonic shift. I blame the Bush people for rubbing salt in wounds and being unnecessarily provocative. But I think the structural changes in U.S.-European relations are probably something no administration could control.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 09/04/2004 7:44:45 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Rubbing salt was a part of a resuscitation effort. Unfortunately, the corpse is mostly dead, rather than mostly alive.
Posted by: Zarathustra || 09/04/2004 9:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Grrrrrr. Mead makes an excellent case for discounting his opinions - his schizophrenia is running amok. He's almost honest, almost insightful, almost clear and almost worth listening to. He lays out arguments in one direction, then sort of apologetically concludes in the opposite. Repeatedly. Some of what he says, such as "rubbing salt in wounds", is just idiocy.

His observations on Clinton are a no-brainer - though you seldom encounter anyone willing to tell the ex-Emperor he's naked these days. He seems to be fighting some internal battle between deserving his reputation and playing the deluded cloistered Ivy League academic twitter. This must be a ploy to keep those cocktail party invitations coming in, but not lose all self-respect in the process.

A for effort / C- for achievement summed to an Incomplete. Must be nice to have zero deliverables and just sit in judgement on others - second-guessing, quibbling, splitting hairs. Grrrrr. Right. Well, sonny, some things just aren't microwavable. Have cake. Eat it too. Must be tenured.

Sorry, Mrs D - I appreciate the post. Mead's a head case, methinks.
Posted by: .com || 09/04/2004 10:38 Comments || Top||

#3  .com, no offence taken. I think the whole report card idea is sort of juvenile my self and that's why I didn't include it. But his thoughts on Eruope and Asia in the midle para are interesting and might stir up some comentary by the always well informed Ranters.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 09/04/2004 10:46 Comments || Top||

#4  The "Incomplete" thing does seems like a cop-out to me. However, note that Mead says he would have given Clinton the same grade at the end of his first term. On the whole, it sounds like an argument for a second Bush term.

What I found interesting was the remark that under Clinton, everyone thought that terrorism had been pretty much dealt with. Uh-huh.

As for the salt in wounds, that's just plain American talk, rather than Euro diplo-speak:
"You guys are old has-beens"
"We demand an apology!"
"Ok. We're sorry you guys are old has-beens"
Posted by: SteveS || 09/04/2004 14:40 Comments || Top||

#5  a Teutonic, not tectonic shift
Posted by: Frank G || 09/04/2004 15:09 Comments || Top||

#6  Good one, Frank!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/04/2004 15:20 Comments || Top||

#7  The euros are becoming more insular and more more deluded by their own propaganda telling them how important they are. They really aren't, and their own opinions are walling them off. The future lies to the east,and we need to be involved in it. A billion lying cheating Chinese and a billion underhanded Indians both bear carefull watching.
Posted by: Slumming || 09/04/2004 16:16 Comments || Top||

#8  The euros are becoming more insular and more more deluded by their own propaganda telling them how important they are. They really aren't, and their own opinions are walling them off. The future lies to the east,and we need to be involved in it. A billion lying cheating Chinese and a billion underhanded Indians both bear carefull watching.

I would have to agree that the Chinese are generally liars and cheaters, but the Indians deserve better than that. They will give you exactly what they said they would. Not one whit more. Does not mean that they will give you what you thought you were getting, but that is semantics . . .
Posted by: Jame Retief || 09/04/2004 20:14 Comments || Top||


Brace Yourself
Just an excerpt. Read it all...
Almost every day, al Qaeda suspects or affiliated terrorists are arrested somewhere in the world. Islamic fascists blow up Israelis, behead Nepalese, murder Russians children in schools and on the street, and kidnap French journalists (so much for appeasement). They want to destroy trains in New York as they did in Madrid. They seek to ruin democracy in Kabul and Baghdad and take down Russian airliners. Nearly each week they are caught forming cells in Europe and the United States — all akin in their desire for theocracy, incoherent demands, partiality for barbarous methods of killing civilians, and hatred of Western-style liberalism and freedom.

Now we learn that they may well turn their attention to targeted assassinations here at home — in the manner in which Osama bin Laden took out General Massoud of the Northern Alliance on the eve of the September 11 attacks, and like the various efforts to incinerate General Musharraf in Pakistan. The problem is not only that such efforts would be aimed at short-circuiting the nerve center of the United States, but also that previous reckless talk on the part of some cultural elites at home would only accentuate the turmoil.

The 2002 winner of the National Book Critics Circle Award, Nicholson Baker, is due out with Checkpoint — an extended dialogue on killing (in a variety of strange ways) George Bush. Last year, comedian Rick Hall played to full houses in the U.K., performing his newest composition, "Let's Get Together and Kill George Bush." A so-called pacifist group announced its sponsorship of a rather violent-sounding off-Broadway "guerilla comedy" entitled, I'm Gonna Kill the President.

This is stupid — and dangerous. Al Qaeda has announced its intentions play on perceptions of Western decadence and nihilism. Should the terrorists strike at our leaders, there will be a national accounting over the failure of those on the left to condemn such extremism. Alfred A. Knopf, for example, is promoting Baker's book as a cris du coeur — "in response to the powerless seething fury many Americans felt when President Bush decided to take the nation to war."

"Seething"? The radical Left is courting disaster and threatens to destroy the credibility of liberals who are apparently fearful of condemning the madness in their midst — this "cry of the heart" to save Saddam Hussein from the wrath of an imperialistic and bullying United States. When upscale protestors swear at delegates and parade obscene signs in New York while John Kerry goes windsurfing in shades and racing gloves, you have a recipe for disaster for wannabe populists.
Posted by: tipper || 09/04/2004 06:03 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lol! VDH certainly "gets it" - and it will be a hairy ride ahead. I guess the only real question will be one of degree: How bad will the meltdown get?

For the very first time since this election season got cranked up, I feel like there are enough non-morons to defeat the forces of darkness in November. But that will only be the beginning, not the end.

We will likely look back on this moment as the last time things made much sense - until we've cleared the decks and forced the rats overboard. It really will get crazy. It will probably be bloody, too.
Posted by: .com || 09/04/2004 6:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Is 60 rounds enough?
Posted by: badanov || 09/04/2004 7:25 Comments || Top||

#3  bad - Enough for what? Prolly depends on where you live, lol! In flyover country, that should do. In Boston, for example, you'll need quite a bit more, I'd guess, heh. Lotsa frags, body armor, and a reliable water supply would be good.
Posted by: .com || 09/04/2004 7:31 Comments || Top||

#4  "We will likely look back on this moment as the last time things made much sense - until we've cleared the decks and forced the rats overboard. It really will get crazy. It will probably be bloody, too."

I took a stroll through the DU boards last night, very disturbing. Lots of unhinged people talking about taking the "next step", "decisive action", "buy guns" etc. etc.

The projection going on was interesting as well. They believe that the media is biased towards the right and lots of other over the top things. Basically they feel that the "Right" is guilty of all the things they've been doing.

And they are INDIGNANT in the extreme. Lock and load. Watch your six RBer's.

CiT
Posted by: CiT || 09/04/2004 9:01 Comments || Top||

#5  For many of us lifelong Democrats, the very sight of Michael Moore perched next to Jimmy Carter at the convention in Boston says it all — the sorry coming together of conspiratorial anti-Americanism and self-righteous appeasement.

Having been a lifelong Republican, except for the brain-fart I had in 1992 voting for Perot, I can't imagine what it must be like for sincere, and decent Dems like Mr. Hansen, and Sen. Miller.
Posted by: BigEd || 09/04/2004 11:18 Comments || Top||

#6  I fully expect nationwide Rodney King style rioting after Bush wins. The closer the election, the more idiots in the street. I just pray he "steals" this election in a surprise landslide.
Posted by: Crikey || 09/04/2004 13:53 Comments || Top||

#7  "while John Kerry goes windsurfing in shades and racing gloves" I've been windsurfing for more than 20 years. It is Kerry's only redeeming feature (of course some of the dumbest people I have ever met are windsurfers...duuuuuude). But the gloves and shades combo says he is a dork. Only a dork would wear that combo.

I live in Marin County, CA. I have a GWB sticker on my car. Someone asked me this morning if it had ever been vandalized. I'll bet it will be when George wins!
Posted by: Remote Man || 09/04/2004 13:54 Comments || Top||

#8  Now we learn that they may well turn their attention to targeted assassinations here at home

Which is essentially what the briefing I got this week covered. Nothing on whether there would be intentional/unintentional coordination by 'domestics'.
Posted by: Pappy || 09/04/2004 15:26 Comments || Top||

#9  First... America's two parties are different from any others on the planet. They are not parties born of ideology rather parites born of evolution, grouping and compromise.

So...
If you where to look at parties as people (in a parent, adult, child sense) what would you see?

Republican: The core Republicans are actualized and know whom they are and what they believe. Self awareness is possible.

Democrats: The Democrats are a conglomeration of special interests that by definition can not achieve self actualization. Self awareness is not possible without a system crash.

This situation makes:
Republicans look more like adults
Democrats look more like spoiled children.


Neither of them are like modern parties elsewhere. The political agenda evolves and has no real relationship with pros and cons of issues.

I think Reagan was able to use the "adult-ness" or maturity of the Republican Image to attract the Religious Right and Southern Democrats to the Republican party. He took advantage of a patriarchal father image fit these folk prefered so he and they can say "because I told you so" in a Parent to Child mode.

This constrasted well with the disordered childlike democratic image seen by the pre-Reagan Moral Majority and Southern Dems as existing in a Democratic Party environment right out of "Lord of the Flys".
Posted by: 3dc || 09/04/2004 16:00 Comments || Top||

#10  #2 Is 60 rounds enough?
Hrmm......I was going to scoff but after checking my own ammo supply, clearly I don't have enough. I have more than sixty, but only for 1 gun and less than 30 for 1 pistol. Time to restock.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 09/04/2004 16:55 Comments || Top||

#11  Pork-based lubes for all weapons!
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 09/04/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#12  ..Let me tell you guys what I see coming.

Around the beginning of October, a group nobody's ever heard of is going to present 'proof' of a massive Republican plot to steal the election. The media will run with it and they'll hammer at it until we'll have a replay of last time, with the same result. Only this time, you will see at least two former presidents and a bunch of LLL leaders stand up and say for the good of the country, GWB must hand over the presidency to Kerry - and that is when the marches and riots will start...

I was happy to see those poll numbers today - but then I realized what it means for the Dhimmicrats. If they lose this time, and by the kind of margins those polls indicate, they are DOOMED.

And they'll pull the temple down around them before they let that happen.
Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 09/04/2004 17:41 Comments || Top||

#13  Mike---I am going to print out a copy of your comment and file it in my drawer at work. Then we'll watch through heavy lenses and compare notes in October.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/04/2004 17:47 Comments || Top||

#14  Crikey: I fully expect nationwide Rodney King style rioting after Bush wins. The closer the election, the more idiots in the street.

Relax. Liberals just aren't mentally equipped to riot. Too darned dangerous. It also takes time away from quaffing lattes, going to art movies and making love.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/04/2004 17:51 Comments || Top||


Goss Criticizes Senate's Abuse Hearings
EFL
... During one interview in May, the eight-term House Republican from Florida said he couldn't count the number of ongoing prison abuse investigations, but "we've got the circus in the Senate, which is always the likely place to look for the circus."

"Even though I say that lightheartedly, I do honestly question whether or not they have balance over there on this issue," said Goss, former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, who has declined interviews since President Bush nominated him last month.

The comments are interesting not only because they show Goss' more guarded approach to Congress' key oversight role on intelligence matters, but also because of the criticism of his Senate colleagues, who will decide whether to confirm him as Bush's intelligence chief... "Some people say I am a toady for the agency. Some people say I am too hard on the agency. It depends where you are coming from," Goss said in March, after he launched into a criticism about how the agency in the 1990s had developed a "nice-spies problem" and was afraid to do business with unsavory sources.
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Posted by: Super Hose || 09/04/2004 12:58:35 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: WoT
Why I Serve: Marine's Life-Long Dream Comes True
One man's story...
"After 9/11, there was a glut of imported steel, and the domestic steel mills slowly started going out of business," he said. "Unfortunately, my dad's business was one of them."

Before he went out of business, McStay's dad tried to downsize so he wouldn't have to leave as many workers without jobs. This alternative presented an opportunity for McStay to follow his dream. Since McStay didn't have a family, unlike many of the people who worked for his father, he decided it was time to visit the recruiters. "I still had my childhood dream in the back of my head, and decided I was going to join the military and help save the jobs of the workers who have families," he said. "I walked into the recruiters at 34 and signed up for the infantry."

When McStay's father found out about his pending future in the infantry, he placed a call to the head of recruiting in Ohio to talk the Marines out of putting his son in the infantry. His father was successful in getting the recruiting command to change his McStay's assignment to the air wing.

From the time McStay enlisted in the Marines, until a few days before leaving for boot camp, his father didn't say a word to him. "Right before I left for boot camp, my dad went on a business trip," he said. "When I was dropping him off at the airport, he said we needed to talk." His father gave him some advice, based on his experience as a Marine, which would help him make it through the hard times. "He gave me a lot of really good advice that has helped me throughout my two and a half years in the Marines," said McStay.

Over the past two years, McStay said, his father has come full-circle and is now one of his biggest supporters. "Now my dad is very involved in everything I do in the Marines," he said. Knowing that the Marines isn't going to be a lifelong career, McStay has found the service to be a teacher of life for him in some ways. "By being able to fulfill my childhood dream of becoming a Marine and serving my country, I have learned that life rarely turns out the way you expect," he said. "But at the same time, life will never give you more than you can handle.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/04/2004 03:46 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ah, now this is 24K gold. I certainly hope McStay follows through and becomes a teacher - no other public institution needs people like this more. May he pass along his intelligent and honest world view to his students. I have no doubt, whatsoever, that he will be popular and respected by them. Kudos to this terrific man!
Posted by: .com || 09/04/2004 9:24 Comments || Top||


Arrest of bin Laden closer than ever, U.S. official says
I thought they were going to trot him out for the convention?
A U.S. counterterrorism official said here Friday that nearly 75 percent of the al-Qaida terror network's senior leadership has been eliminated and the capture of its fugitive chief, Osama bin Laden, is closer than ever. Cofer Black, U.S. State Department coordinator for counterterrorism, told a select group of journalists that the arrests of hundreds of al-Qaida activists and members of its top hierarchy by Pakistan have brought the arrest of bin Laden closer. "If you are asking if we are close to getting OBL, the answer is yes," he said, when asked whether the large-scale arrests are leading to the capture of bin Laden, the prime suspect in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States. "Our president (George W. Bush) has said we will arrest Osama bin Laden. It is guaranteed," he said, adding it could happen tomorrow, in a week or a month from now.
Hopefully not longer, though I'll bet it is. And what's this "arrest" stuff?
Black, a former CIA agent, spoke after attending a meeting between Pakistani and U.S. officials on counterterrorism, in which they discussed matters relating to terrorism, narcotics and capacity building in the two fields. Black denied suggestions that Washington has tasked Islamabad with the arrest of bin Laden. "The United States does not give tasks to Pakistan. Pakistan is an independent and sovereign state," he said.

A statement issued by the Foreign Ministry said that during the two days of talks, both sides expressed their satisfaction with the level of cooperation and reaffirmed their determination to improve such efforts and work closely in the mutual interest of both countries. "Hundreds of al-Qaida killers have been removed from the scene and innocent people made safe," Black said, while lauding the role of President Gen. Pervez Musharraf and the Pakistani government in killing and arresting a large number of terrorists in an ongoing crackdown on terror.
Posted by: tipper || 09/04/2004 5:21:43 AM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Taking Osama alive would be the greatest boost for the America, our fighting men & others serving in Iraq & Afghanistan, plus the free world (except France & Germany of course)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 09/04/2004 5:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Hmmm, so there was a grain of truth in that Russian sourde report a few days ago (which resulted in discussion about the amount of salt necessary to include with digesting the article).

To state that the arrest is guaranteed is a bit odd.

I would speculate that the arrest is fait accompli, but there is an issue of timing of a official public acknowledgement.

I doubt it has anything to do with the US political scene, rather there are probably intelligence and preventive considerations.

Suppose that the rumors AQ cooked something for the time close to the US presidential elections are true, and the operation is in progress, then timed announcement may not only inhibit the operation but also put the terrorist in a panic mode and make then visible, and elimination of the threat may be easier.

Once again, emphasis on "speculate".
Posted by: Zarathustra || 09/04/2004 6:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Darn, sourde=source.
PIMF.
Posted by: Zarathustra || 09/04/2004 6:02 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe they got him already for some time....?
Posted by: Dutchgeek || 09/04/2004 6:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Easy - don't get caught up in the conspiracy game -- or watch too many Hollyweird movies. :^)
Posted by: .com || 09/04/2004 6:14 Comments || Top||

#6  It would be extremely tough to keep that info hush hush, in light of all the mass media-men looking for the grand scoop.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 09/04/2004 6:21 Comments || Top||

#7  .com, just speculating (emphasis).

Not much a conspirational tilt. If I were in position to know, I would probably find ways to make as much capital of it as possible. Incl. timed release of information, especially if that may save a bunch of lives.

As for Holyweird flicks, a nice try. My TV is powered off for more than a year and I don't go to theaters either, except twice a year with my 8 yr old daughter to watch some kiddie movie.
Posted by: Zarathustra || 09/04/2004 6:26 Comments || Top||

#8  Mark, sure, extremely tough, but not impossible.
Part of the job of intelligence services is to provide some handy misdirection to set scoopers on a false trail if that is truly necessary. (I would agree, in this case).

Example: Operation Bodyguard.
Posted by: Zarathustra || 09/04/2004 6:45 Comments || Top||

#9  Well, just another example of some dumbass running his mouth again. Now the LLL will claim that we've had him forever and saving him for the elections. Or that we don't get him and Bush is a failure. Nice job asshat the LLL wins either way you slice it.
Posted by: 98zulu || 09/04/2004 7:02 Comments || Top||

#10  I would not call Cofer Black a dumbass running his mouth. He speaks you listen.
Posted by: Anonymous5668 || 09/04/2004 7:13 Comments || Top||

#11  That doesn't make his guarantee and less dumb. I suspect he is a Democrat.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 09/04/2004 7:19 Comments || Top||

#12  98zulu, el cubos would always find some angle suitable to their agenda, no matter how you slice it. It is a state of mind (I know, I know... how I can speak of mind where there is really no such a faculty present, but say I speak in similes).

Cofer Black is a counterterrorism disinfo expert and coordinator with international ct agencies.
Some CB's quotes: "All I want to say is that there was 'before' 9/11 and 'after' 9/11. After 9/11 the gloves come off."
"I know that we are on the right track today and as a result we are safer as a nation. 'No Limits' aggressive, relentless, worldwide pursuit of any terrorist who threatens us is the only way to go and is the bottom line."

I could find any party affiliation info.
So, I would tend to conclude the man knows what he is doing.
Posted by: Zarathustra || 09/04/2004 7:43 Comments || Top||

#13  I could find any party affiliation info.
is supposed to be
I couldn't find any party affiliation info.
Posted by: Zarathustra || 09/04/2004 7:52 Comments || Top||

#14  maybe Bush has a thick pair of lips floating in a jar, sitting on the desk in the oval office, with a DNA identifier tag on the label? I can dream, can't I?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/04/2004 9:50 Comments || Top||

#15  I'm inclined to go along with Mark Steyn. Bin Laden died at Tora Bora in December 2001.
Posted by: Parabellum || 09/04/2004 10:04 Comments || Top||

#16  Personally, I suspect pressers like this are designed to disrupt enemy operations - if they suddenly suspect that the hard-to-contact Great Leader is in our hands, and is ordering them into ambushes and capture, they can't trust anybody.

It fatally disrupts any surviving command-and-control, for a brief period of time while they figure out if he's missing or out of physical contact. This flailing about might actually lead us to him or other high-value targets, if we're listening properly.

But, this is a short-term effect. After a while, they're figure out it's bullshit. I'm worried about the timing. It suggests that whatever's left of the central organization of AQ is on the move, with something big. Since we've had a rolling wave of attacks on the Chechnyan front, it might be that end of the war. Or it could be a European or American attack for which the loud and nasty Chechnyan operations are designed to act as preliminary diversions.

We made it through the conventions without any attacks. That's good. The only thing coming up before the elections would be a run on Sept. 11 redux. There's too much time to the election for a "we've got Bin Laden!" balloon to have any air in it by the time of a scheduled attack, if they're launching it now.

Of course, they might actually have Bin Laden. But I can't imagine they would had been able to resist marching him out for the conventions, if they did. Nah, he's still sitting in eastern Iran somewhere.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 09/04/2004 10:36 Comments || Top||

#17  O.K. now this is officialy getting silly: From Haaretz flash:

"19:53 State Department official: don`t be surprised if bin Laden caught tomorrow"
Posted by: Heysenbergmayhavebeenhere || 09/04/2004 13:39 Comments || Top||

#18  Are you certain about that, Heysenberg?.......
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/04/2004 13:56 Comments || Top||

#19  Absolutely not, but Ill gladley eat my words and open a nice chablis if the beard is dragged through the streets of New York tommorow
Posted by: Heysenbergmayhavebeenhere || 09/04/2004 13:59 Comments || Top||

#20  #18 Are you certain about that, Heysenberg?.......

Bwahahahahahahaha!
Posted by: Zenster || 09/04/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||

#21  Datum for you guys:

Disinformation is an important part of counter-terror ops.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/04/2004 16:19 Comments || Top||

#22  Maybe OS, but it also has a domestic political impact. I think all the mouthing off we've gotten for the last year about capturing OBL is nothing but cheap talk. Leave it to the Pakistanis. Our people should not be being quoted for attribution about guarantees unless they guy is already in custody.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 09/04/2004 16:23 Comments || Top||

#23  can you IMAGINE the squealing from McAuliffe, Kerry, DU, et al if they do produce OBL or evidence he's got his raisins before the election? The resulting explosion ould be spectacular!
Posted by: Frank G || 09/04/2004 16:26 Comments || Top||

#24  Uh-huh.

"The police expect to make an arrest soon."

Where have I heard that before, and under what circumstances?
Posted by: mojo || 09/04/2004 21:06 Comments || Top||

#25 
I think maybe someone turned Bin Laden in for the $25 million reward. If so, the secret could be confined to a very small number of people.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 09/04/2004 22:25 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Campaign to Divest Investments from Terror-Supporting Countries
From DivestTerror.org
.... each and every one of us actually can play a pivotal role in winning the War on Terror. How? By demanding that our public and private pensions plans, college endowments, individual retirement account managers, 401(k) plans, and other investment vehicles exploit the leverage represented by investments in publicly traded companies that operate in terrorist-sponsoring states. In a unified front, we should all be saying "This is my money and it will not go to support terror." DivestTerror.org is a nationwide campaign aimed at some 400 public companies worldwide that are providing revenues, technology and moral cover to governments that sponsor terrorism. .....

Doing so will allow each and every one of us to help wage the war on Terror by opening new divestment fronts through our universities, local communities and states, individual retirement accounts, churches and unions. ....
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 09/04/2004 11:20:42 PM || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: UFO TROLL || 09/05/2004 0:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Go fuck yourself, UFO.
Posted by: .com || 09/05/2004 0:23 Comments || Top||

#3  .com, why are you feeding this creature?
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 09/05/2004 1:07 Comments || Top||

#4  With her terror on Palestinians Israel has spawned terrorism against the US which Moslems view as just retalliation -- Zionist War Crimes, The Case for Prosecution video presentation should be viewed by every US taxpayer as it will clearly identify Israel as the perpertrator.
Posted by: UFO || 09/05/2004 0:13 Comments || Top||


Siege Prompts Self-Criticism in Arab Media
I suppose it's a start. Let's see how long it lasts. Or how prevalent it is.
Muslims worldwide are the main perpetrators of terrorism, a humiliating and painful truth that must be acknowledged, a prominent Arab writer and television executive wrote Saturday, as Middle East media and officials expressed horror at the bloody rebel siege of a Russian school. Unusually forthright self-criticism followed the end of the hostage crisis, along with warnings that such actions inflict more damage to the image of Islam than all its enemies could hope.
A little late for that, isn't it, bub?
Arab leaders and Muslim clerics denounced the school seizure as unjustifiable and expressed their sympathy.
They occasionally do that. They never do anything else...
Russian commandos stormed the school Friday in Beslan, Russia; it had been taken over by rebels demanding independence for Chechnya. Russian officials said Saturday that the death toll was in the hundreds — many of them children. Images of terrified young survivors being carried from the scene aired repeatedly on Arab TV stations. Pictures of dead and wounded children ran on front pages of Arab newspapers Saturday. "Holy warriors" from the Middle East long have supported fellow Muslims fighting in Chechnya, and Russian officials said nine or 10 Arabs were among militants killed. "Our terrorist sons are an end-product of our corrupted culture," Abdulrahman al-Rashed, general manager of Al-Arabiya television wrote in his daily column published in the pan-Arab Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper. It ran under the headline, "The Painful Truth: All the World Terrorists are Muslims!"
Yes, we do have something very nice for you in Kevlar, Mr. al-Rashed.
Al-Rashed ran through a list of recent attacks by Islamic extremist groups — in Russia, Iraq, Sudan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen — many of which are influenced by the ideology of Osama Bin Laden, the Saudi-born leader of the al-Qaida terror network. "Most perpetrators of suicide operations in buses, schools and residential buildings around the world for the past 10 years have been Muslims," he wrote. Muslims will be unable to cleanse their image unless "we admit the scandalous facts," rather than offer condemnations or justifications. "The picture is humiliating, painful and harsh for all of us," al-Rashed wrote.
I would suggest offering to hunt down and kill the people who do that sort of thing. Not only would the civilized world not have to expend our resources doing it, but the Learned Elders of Islam would have a harder time presenting it as a crusade on our part. No one in the west is ever going to respect Islam again unless something like that happens. I suspect it will, when the tide's been turned and we're slaughtering them in droves. There'll be lots of people eager to switch sides then, if we let them...
Contributors to Islamic Web sites known for their extremist content had mixed reactions on the hostage crisis, with some praising the separatists.
I'm sure there were all sorts of verbal and intellectual acrobatics involved. I'm not going to bother looking them up to see what they were, because they're nothing but sophistry. Murdering children is wrong. Period. No arguments in favor accepted.
Others wrote that people should wait until the militants had been identified before implicating Arabs in the drama.
Ah, you knew that was coming.
"There's no way Arabs or Moose limbs could have done such a thing! It hadda be Zionists!"
Ahmed Bahgat, an Egyptian Islamist, wrote in his column in Egypt's leading pro-government newspaper, Al-Ahram, that hostage-takers in Russia as well as in Iraq are only harming Islam. "If all the enemies of Islam united together and decided to harm it ... they wouldn't have ruined and harmed its image as much as the sons of Islam have done by their stupidity, miscalculations, and misunderstanding of the nature of this age," Bahgat wrote. The horrifying images of the dead and wounded Russian students "showed Muslims as monsters who are fed by the blood of children and the pain of their families."
Yeah. I'd say the mask, usually not very securely seated, was all the way off this time...
Mohammed Mahdi Akef, leader of Egypt's largest Islamic group, the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, said in general, kidnappings may be justified, but killings are not. He said the school siege did not fit the Islamic concept of jihad, or holy war. "What happened yesterday is not jihad because our Islam obligates us to respect the souls of human beings; it is not about taking them away," Akef told The Associated Press.
And then, there's this guy...
Ali Abdullah, a Bahraini scholar who follows the ultraconservative Salafi stream of Islam, condemned the school attack as "un-Islamic," but insisted Muslims weren't behind it.
"Nope. Nope. Wudn't us. I asked around..."
"I have no doubt in my mind that this is the work of the Israelis who want to tarnish the image of Muslims and are working alongside Russians who have their own agenda against the Muslims in Chechnya," said Abdullah.
I knew the Jooooooos would get stuck in there somewhere.
An editorial in the Saudi English-language Arab News put some blame for the bloody end to the school siege on Russian President Vladimir Putin, saying he couldn't afford to lose his "tough-man image."
Shoulda just kept right on negotiating, even as the kiddies were being slaughtered, huh?
But it added that "the Chechens, with the choice of their targets, had put themselves in a position where no one would shed tears when the punishment came. They reached a new low when they chose toddlers as bargaining chips."
But the cries will go up when the punishment does come, you betcha. The kiddies will have been dead for a month or two, already fading from mind. You can see how worked up people are over the Nord Ost killings right now...
Heads of state from Egypt, Lebanon, Kuwait and Yemen offered their sympathy Friday to Russian officials and to the families of people caught up in the hostage drama. A prominent Muslim cleric also denounced it. "What is the guilt of those children? Why should they be responsible for your conflict with the government?" Egypt's top Muslim cleric, Grand Sheik Mohammed Sayed Tantawi, was quoted as saying during a Friday sermon in Banha, 30 miles north of Cairo. "You are taking Islam as a cover and it is a deceptive cover; those who carry out the kidnappings are criminals, not Muslims," Tantawi, who heads Al-Azhar University, the highest authority in the Sunni Islamic world, was quoted by Egypt's Middle East News agency as saying.
Okay, so how long will it last?
30 days, max...
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/04/2004 6:04:12 PM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Russia, Iraq, Sudan, Saudi Arabia and Yemen

Does anyone notice a country missing from this list?

Bueller ... Beuller ?
Posted by: Xbalanke || 09/04/2004 18:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, some people are getting a clue. The pictures may serve as cluebats. Events, however, are happening fast. So the Muslims better clean up their act, or it WILL be done for them. A couple more groups of schoolkids attacked by these Islamist dirtbags and there will be demands for REAL HELL TO PAY. Nothing will inflame people more than seeing innocent children maimed or killed (except when Israelis get it done to them. There the perps get a pass, or so it seems.).
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/04/2004 18:35 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm waiting for Muslims the world over to catch the bus to Beslan -- and Chechnya -- to assist in hunting down and ruthlessly exterminating those responsible for this act.

Waiting...
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 19:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Fred---
**crickets chirping**
**teutonic tectonic plates moving**
**sun turning into a red dwarf**

Nothing yet.....
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/04/2004 19:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Until the muslim world starts "seething" about murder...
Posted by: anymouse || 09/04/2004 19:51 Comments || Top||

#6  Red Sox Win World Series **

Nothing yet....
Posted by: Shipman || 09/04/2004 20:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Our terrorist sons are an end-product of our corrupted culture,"
If you don't get your sons under control (in a paternal society, I might add), their product will be the end of your corrupted culture. Cultures have been subdued for far less.
Posted by: Tom || 09/04/2004 20:43 Comments || Top||

#8  fatwa in 4. . 3. . 2. .

sure hope Mr. al-Rashed has his affairs in order.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 09/04/2004 20:44 Comments || Top||

#9  "this is the work of the Israelis"
This is from a Bahraini scholar. Sounds more like Gentle.
Posted by: Tom || 09/04/2004 20:47 Comments || Top||

#10  Muslims already coming with the conspiracy theories....
But then again, if you can believe that Muhammed was an enlightened man who knew truth, you can believe anything!
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 09/04/2004 21:46 Comments || Top||

#11  One more attack like this and we may see a traditional Russian solution to Chechen "rebels". Round up ALL the Chechens and EXTERMINATE them. There is historical precedent in that part of the world and these fools are dangerously close to precipitating it.

Actually, probably no great loss.
Posted by: RWV || 09/04/2004 21:52 Comments || Top||

#12  I can't imagine RWV's posed Chechen extermination, but I do think that the world is fast approaching a tipping point beyond which most major powers will have open season on all extremist Muslims. The terrorists are losing the benefit of the doubt in most of the civilized world. We'll soon see whether Putin is a Bush or a Kerry...
Posted by: Tom || 09/04/2004 22:05 Comments || Top||


'Islam is not responsible for Muslim failures'
Former Malaysian prime minister Dr Mahathir bin Mohamad, in his keynote address at a conference in Karachi, said that the root cause of backwardness among the Muslim Ummah was deviation from the teachings of the Holy Quran and the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). "Islam is not responsible for our failures and misfortunes, it is because we have deviated from its true teachings,'' he said.

Therefore, he said, it was imperative for Muslims to acquire knowledge and hone their skills to build their capacity to defend the Ummah and Islam, serve suffering humanity and ensure the rule of justice to enable Muslims to effectively face global challenges. "This will also help develop our countries, defend our territory, people and dedicate our lives to the service of Islam and the Ummah," he said. "Muslims should practice tolerance by eschewing differences in order to become united and strong again." His address was delivered at the International Conference on "Muslim Ummah in the Modern World Challenges and Opportunities" organized by Shura Hamdard Pakistan.

He felt the task was difficult and would obviously take time, but it would be enough if only a few Islamic countries tried to practice and implement the fundamental teachings of Islam. "There is only one challenge facing the Ummah - admitting truth that we have strayed from the teachings of our religion. It is our fault, not Islam's, and it is for us to correct," he said. Dr Mahathir Mohamad maintained that differences in interpretations could not be so severe that Muslims began to accuse each other of not being Muslims. "If we accept accusations against others for not being Muslims, then there will be no Muslim left in the entire world," he said.
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Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 11:29:26 AM || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That headline gave me a good laugh.

Muslims need look no further than the Taliban to see Islam and sharia applied to the letter.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 09/04/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Musharraf: "Muslims should also compel and urge the West to improve its concept and image of Islam and its followers".

Based on what? Does he think we are suicidal?
We are already improving our concepts and true image of Islam. I guess, in the opposite direction than what he has on mind.
Posted by: Zarathustra || 09/04/2004 11:45 Comments || Top||

#3  Somebody should give Mahatir the Coton Mather "You don't Believe Enough" award.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 09/04/2004 11:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Well the russian school massacre has convinced me about what is Islam is.
Posted by: capt joe || 09/04/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#5  " . . . our failures and misfortunes" Yeah, that's what killing innocents in Russia and elsewhere is . . . a Moslem "failure" and "misfortune"!

" . . . he said it was imperative for Muslims to acquire knowledge and hone their skills to build their capacity to defend the Ummah and Islam (their #1 goal), serve suffering humanity (that'll be the day) and ensure the rule of justice (they don't even know what that is) to enable Muslims to effectively face global challenges . . . " "Global challenges, huh?" Like what? I'm not sure I want to know.

"If we accept accusations against others for not being Muslims, then there will be no Muslim left in the entire world,” he said. " Does that mean it's tough to find those shining-star examples? Is Islam that low on "good guys"?

"He said Muslims of great Islamic civilization built cannons, siege machines, catapults, warships and superior steel blades to defend themselves and instill fear in the enemy." They always go back to the violence thingy. Makes their mama's proud.

"Muslims should also compel and urge the West to improve its concept and image of Islam and its followers.” In your dreams. I think Islam should "compel" their own followers to improve themselves into example of prosocial, contributing members of society.

Posted by: ex-lib || 09/04/2004 12:17 Comments || Top||

#6  I wasn't aware of any problems with islam. Seems its full steam ahead. But other than destroying it outright, just work on the true meanings more and more.
Posted by: Lucky || 09/04/2004 12:21 Comments || Top||

#7  So what did he say it was? The food?
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/04/2004 12:36 Comments || Top||

#8  "Muslims should practice tolerance by eschewing differences in order to become united and strong again.”

This has got to be a translation error. Tolerance through eschewing (ie, "avoiding and staying away from deliberately") differences? Tolerance through uniformity?

That doesn't even make sense in Orwellian terms.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 09/04/2004 12:59 Comments || Top||

#9  The attendees of the Global Big Losers Convention fly in on their magic carpets American/European/Russian planes and meet to debate why they're always fucking things up compared to everyone else. The only two things they all have in common are i) they're losers, and ii) they're Muslims. So what's the answer they come up with? What radical realisations have their best minds come up with? Moderation? Secularism? People Power? No: more Islam. And more doing things by the old book. Why do they bother?
Posted by: Bulldog || 09/04/2004 13:00 Comments || Top||

#10  They say that when you keep doing the same thing over an over, expecting the results to be different, it's a sign you're a nut...
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 13:03 Comments || Top||

#11  It's simply amazing. You can look at dozens of different Muslim societies, living in different climates with completely different histories. They have cultures that differ (a bit, at least), and contact with different cultures -- Europe, India, China, Africa, Russia.

Yet they're almost universally violent, misogynist, bigoted, and impoverished. The rare exceptions are glaring, and often seem intent on shoving themselves into the same cesspool.

Factor out the differences -- history, culture, climate -- and you're left with Islam. And the more "fundamental" the form, the worse the situation.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/04/2004 13:42 Comments || Top||

#12 

"Muslims should practice tolerance by eschewing differences in order to become united and strong again."

Mitch and ex-lib, the way I'm parsing this is that the "tolerance" applies only to other Muslims (i.e., within "Islam and the Ummah"), not anybody else. C.F. the last paragraph:

"...differences in interpretations [of Islam- ed.] could not be so severe that Muslims began to accuse each other of not being Muslims. "If we accept accusations against others [read it: "other Muslims" - ed.] for [of] not being Muslims, then there will be no Muslim left in the entire world.."

Or in other words, Muslims shouldn't waste time and resources fighting each other over doctrinal differences when there are so many infidels, crusaders, and jews to kill. The next step will be to blame the infidels, crusaders, and jews for corrupting Islam. So you see, Islam can't be responsible. [Retch...]

Posted by: Old Grouch || 09/04/2004 14:13 Comments || Top||

#13  Later thought: Is this a move to try to tie the "moderate Muslims" to the extremists in the name of Islamic unity? (What's Mahathir's rep?) Looks like they're choosing sides... scary.
Posted by: Old Grouch || 09/04/2004 14:32 Comments || Top||

#14  #13 Is this a move to try to tie the "moderate Muslims" to the extremists in the name of Islamic unity?

Uh ... aren't the moderates currently tied to the extremists by a common bond of complete and total silence regarding their "glorious victory" atrocity in Beslan?

Such brave "freedom fighters" terrorists they were too:

[Of the over 350 dead] ... those who died from gunshot wounds, most were shot in the back as they fled the building, he said.
EMPHASIS ADDED

Oh, I get it, just another bit of anomalous conduct by the inadequately faithful. I'm not sure that I really want to see what comes of Muslims being even more faithful than the murderers at Beslan.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/04/2004 15:05 Comments || Top||

#15  What's Mahathir's rep?

Mahathir is a "moderate" who nonetheless regularly mouthes anti-Semitism and Islamic superiority.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/04/2004 15:08 Comments || Top||

#16  At least the Nazis only wanted to annihilate Jews, Slavs, communists, gypsies, homosexuals, artists, intellectuals, and the disabled. Islam wants to annihilate everyone, including itself. This is the main reason why I support the space program, because it offers the possibility of us eventually building a very large and secure psychiatric unit in space, complete with its own mosque, and perhaps even a population of android infidels for all the patients to smash up.
Posted by: Ploog || 09/04/2004 17:35 Comments || Top||

#17  You left out the handy dandy rail gun for shooting muslims into the sun..errr, paradise.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 09/04/2004 19:02 Comments || Top||

#18  Let's see . . .

Christians and Jews have been very successful in various lands, in various professions, at various times.

As Robert Crawford points out, Muslims are universally violent, misogynist, bigoted, and impoverished regardless of location, vocation or era.

Maybe they just need to convert!?

Posted by: PlanetDan || 09/04/2004 20:36 Comments || Top||

#19  “Islam is not responsible for our failures and misfortunes, it is because we have deviated from its true teachings,’’ he said.

Ha...haha..ahahaaa...HAAAHHAAAHAAA....HAAAHAHAAA......

HAAAAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 09/04/2004 20:50 Comments || Top||

#20  #16 Islam wants to annihilate everyone, including itself.

And your point is?
Posted by: Zenster || 09/05/2004 1:09 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
JI still active in Southeast Asia
JEMAAH Islamiah's connections to cells beyond South-east Asia, attempts to refresh the skills of Afghanistan veterans in the region and bids by small groups to act independently explain why terrorism remains a concern, Indonesia expert Sidney Jones said. Significant strides have been made by countries in the region to disrupt JI and other militant groups but many top leaders are still on the run, she highlighted at a talk here yesterday. Stamping out the JI in a short timeframe would be impossible, for the group - which seeks to establish an Islamic state - has a long-term plan in place.

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Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Ebadi unfazed by threats and hardliners' control over Iran
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 13:37 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I guess they don't give the Nobel Peace Prize to just anyone. You have to be exceptionally dense, a pure socialist, and remarkably foolish. An icon of either hatred or ridicule. If she thinks the NPP will protect her from the Mad Mullahs when she crosses the "red lines", well, she's as deluded as I thought she was - from her "let's see if I can alienate everybody on every side" statements upon receiving the thing. I do not wish her ill, but I have no sympathy for her - she's punked herself.
Posted by: .com || 09/04/2004 14:56 Comments || Top||


Iranian women rally against French headscarf ban in schools
I hope they weren't wearing any kind of loud colors or anything. And no ankles, the brazen hussies!
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 1:31:34 PM || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  sluts! Some aren't wearing black!
Posted by: Frank G || 09/04/2004 15:45 Comments || Top||


Lahoud Gets New 3-Year Term Despite UN Motion
That worked well, didn't it?
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 11:16:45 AM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:


Terror Networks
"The Choice is in Your Hands: Either You're with the Muslims or with the Infidels
From MEMRI...
The London daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat reported that the extremist Islamic movement Al-Muhajiroun had announced a convention in London, titled "The Choice is in Your Hands: Either You're with the Muslims or with the Infidels," to mark the third anniversary of the September 11 attacks. The organization had planned a similar anniversary event a year ago, called "The Magnificent 19 [Suicide Attackers]," but had cancelled it at the last minute. The following is a summary of the report:

Al-Muhajiroun leader Omar Bakri, a Syrian residing in London, told the paper by phone that the convention would feature Al-Qa'ida "surprises," with the screening of a never-before-shown video. He said that the convention will focus on "the anniversary of the division of the world into two great camps — the camp of faith and the camp of unbelief," and would take place September 11, 2004 from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m.

Bakri added: "On this day, we will talk about the ramifications of these [9/11] operations for Afghanistan and Iraq
 We want the world to remember this operation 
 that lifted the head of the [Muslim] nation." Bakri called 9/11 "a cry of Jihad against unbelief and oppression," and said that the aim of remembering it is to "revive the commandment of Jihad among the youth of the [Muslim] nation."

Bakri said that the convention will also feature a lecture about the Islamic religious roots of "slaughtering the infidels," that is, beheading foreigners in Iraq and Saudi Arabia, and that there will be films by Al-Qaida, the Tawhid and Jihad organization, and the Brigades of the Two Holy Places in the Arabian Peninsula, and that there will also be a film on the most recent operations in Chechnya. He added that one of the speeches, by Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, known to be Al-Qaida's military commander in Iraq, will be translated.

Another lecture, he said, would be dedicated to the memory of three Al-Qa'ida commanders: Abd Al-Aziz Al-Muqren (Abu Hajer), killed in June 2004 by Saudi security forces; his predecessor Yousef Al-Ayyiri, killed in June 2003 in a clash with Saudi security forces, and Abu Hafs Al-Masri, a top Al-Qa'ida military officer, killed in the U.S. attack on Kandahar in late 2001.

According to Bakri, the anticipated criticism of Al-Muhajiroun for the organization's insistence on memorializing 9/11 will be "a simple sacrifice in comparison with what we must actually do — that is, support the Jihad led by bin Laden."

Attorney Anjam Choudry, secretary-general of Al-Muhajiroun in Britain, said, "A large hall has already been secured for the convention, but the announcement came only two days ago for fear that the British police would try to cancel it, as happened with the previous convention."
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#1  Finaly, common ground. But where do we go from here?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 09/04/2004 16:12 Comments || Top||

#2  They seem to be saying what we've suspected all along. Where are Gentle and Anti and all the rest now? Refute this if you dare.
Posted by: The Doctor || 09/04/2004 16:24 Comments || Top||

#3  too busy making reservations via Infidels'hotels.com
Posted by: Frank G || 09/04/2004 16:27 Comments || Top||

#4  This little convention would make a humdinger of a roach hotel, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/04/2004 16:29 Comments || Top||

#5  Perhaps it would be best for the TV camera's to remain on during the convention when all the subhuman Islamic death cult members are ground up and fed to pigs. I'm pretty sure that you don't go to Paradise when you're pig dung.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 09/04/2004 16:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Can you say "target-rich environment"? I knew you could! MOAB to the rescue.
Posted by: Spot || 09/04/2004 16:41 Comments || Top||

#7  This place absolutely should be bombed. Either by military means, or by a lone wolf in London, this convention should be bombed. On the 3rd anniversary of our darkest hour, are we going to allow our enemies, the people who are funding & supporting a worldwide network of murder, to gather and glorify their craft? We will never win the WOT by allowing this kinda shit to take place. We need more aggresive tactics. I'm afraid at the rate we are going, in 10 years, we may see a "Magnificent 19" tribute at Ground Zero.
Posted by: Destro || 09/04/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#8  I can understand the outrage; but I often wonder if these mad Mullahs are a front. They attract certain scumbags to these meetings and we or the Brits get intelligence on what these swine are planning. Plus if these islamonazis get busted; then they wonder who ratted them out. Maybe they are spies and this is an act to attract Al Qaeda or potential Al Qaeda so they can be stopped.
Posted by: Kyrieleandra || 09/04/2004 17:14 Comments || Top||

#9  Kyrieleandra---I was thinking of that angle, too. But I am also outraged that the UK lets these guys even into the country. Think about how much resources have been wasted on Stumpy playing footsie with him. He should have been booted back to Yemen and that would be the end of him. We've GOT to get on the offensive. On defense, we are always be a step behind. Same for the US.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/04/2004 17:19 Comments || Top||

#10  Any similarity between this and George W Bush's "You're either with us or with the Terrorists" is totally coincidental and illusory.

/Gentle
Posted by: Ptah || 09/04/2004 17:19 Comments || Top||

#11  I'll take "With the Infidels" for $1,000, Alex.

While bombing the location is a bit much, spot checking the identity of and fingerprinting every single person attending or promoting this event certainly seems like a sane proposition.

Of course, hoping for the odd accidental building collapse isn't out of bounds either.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/04/2004 17:22 Comments || Top||

#12  hmmmm Gentle and Anti have been laying low, haven't they? Pro'lly waiting for the funerals to be over

(/angry SOB)
Posted by: Frank G || 09/04/2004 17:24 Comments || Top||

#13  They will harp in on the Russians-oppressing-Chechens card after all the kids are buried and the story fades. Too much heat and anger now, Frank.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/04/2004 17:28 Comments || Top||

#14  remember that....
Posted by: Frank G || 09/04/2004 17:31 Comments || Top||

#15  Alaska-Sometimes it seems like it takes a scumbag to cathc a scumbag. IT seems like many Muslims want to live in their own enclaves and not mix. I could be wrong. It just seems it would be easier to infiltrate terrorists organizations by setting up fronts that appear to be condoning this ruthless behavior. There is the old saying about keeping your enemies close and this is a way of doing that...even though it is upsetting to us.
Sometimes when I watch WW2 stuff I am amazed by the ingenuity used to twart the Germans and Japanese. It gives me hope that Islamofacists won't be successful for long; because we will find a way to outsmart them.
Posted by: Kyrieleandra || 09/04/2004 17:47 Comments || Top||

#16  why that pile of human excrement is still breathing is a mystery to me.
Posted by: anymouse || 09/04/2004 19:12 Comments || Top||

#17  I was in NYC and saw the security for the RNC. It was great.

Having said that, I'm sure security can't be perfect all the time, and large gatherings of people can be blown up by others who disagree with their beliefs.

[he says, hopefully]
Posted by: PlanetDan || 09/04/2004 20:40 Comments || Top||

#18  It's really funny there are no 'protesters' marching in the streets of Manhattan in light of the Islamic inflicted bloodbath.....but then again protesting little children shot in the back by imported Arab Muslim gunmen does not fit into the far-leftist Kerry agenda.

The Bush election team need to ball ultra-hardball over the September 11th weekend on this issue plus the Kerry crowd's appeasement policies regarding death cult jihadists, and nail those that continue to tell us (Islamic) 'terrorism is being inflated by Bush.....etc ..bla, & bla and more bla.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 09/04/2004 23:26 Comments || Top||


Is Islam Happy With These Photos? (Russian School via BBC)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 09/04/2004 02:44 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mark, I think that Islam's answer would be long-winded, barely coherent and include references to conditions in Gaza.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/04/2004 2:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Hell is prepared for Allan's Moon Martyr Sado-fascist Murderers and their fellow Muslim cowards who empower and encourage them, either through words and deeds, or silence.

The true martyrs are those that suffer and die at the hands of the true infidels.
Posted by: Atropanthe || 09/04/2004 2:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Super, I think the long Islamic windedness would stray so far from facts it may never even come close to the Russian slaughter by imported Arab gunmen.

Atropanthe, point VERY well taken. The 'Sado-fascist Murderers' (proper term) of al-Qa'ida's Terrorist Inc., have acted in the same beast like manor as willing S.S. butchers in any of the Nazi death camps during the Shoah.

Will the radical Left at least condemn these acts of revolting savagery?

What type of horrors will it take for united, international, swift action against known pockets of all aspects of al-Qaida's terrorist leadership, including Iran, Syria, Lebanon, as well as North Korea, Cuba and even terrorist promoters like Hugo Chavez?

As far as that Shi'ite gang leader in Iraq, the hell with deals, (appeasement) that bastard should pay for murdering American servicemen and those of other Coalition nations.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 09/04/2004 6:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Of Course Islam is happy with these photos; they show abject horror, grief and suffering.
But then again, Islam will never be satisfied now, will it?
Because Islam is the beast, and submission won't end until death, and mutilation and satan has claimed his own.
I've got a plan of my own. Its called submission, so call it islam if you have to.
I say we come down on these babykillers, these childmurderers so hard, so ruthlessly, so relentlessly, that they'll be bending over backwards to appease us.
Islam is about murder. It starts with the soul and then with the body, but it doesn't care much about the order, as long as the beast is fed.
Posted by: an dalusian dog || 09/04/2004 13:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Or to quote my good friend Mr. Muckfordoo," this ain't nothin but some Satan"
Posted by: Annie War || 09/04/2004 13:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Is Islam Happy With These Photos?

I've yet to hear any Muslim clerics or organizations make a single statement of anything approaching unhappiness with this turn of events. So, I'd have to say "yes," Islam appears to be quite happy with the Beslan atrocity.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/04/2004 17:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Oddly enough, the fact that the terrorists were Islamic is more clearly reported in the Arab and Islamic press than the MSM in the US.
Posted by: mhw || 09/04/2004 21:22 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Cute-n-Vivacious Irshad Manji Stirs Controversy in Netherlands
From The Institute for the Secularization of Islamic Society, an interview of Irshad Manji, the author of The Trouble With Islam, on the occasion of the books translation into Dutch.
What is the trouble with Islam?
The problem with Islam today, in a word, is literalism. Literalism is a commitment to strict exactness of words or meanings in reading or interpretation. Every religion has its share of literalists. But the difference is that only in Islam today literalism is mainstream. .... It's a dangerous supremacy complex, because when abuse happens under the banner of religion most Muslims, included those with University degrees, have no clue how to challenge Islam. They don't have to think and critical thinking skills need not apply. We were never able to question the Koran.

What are your recommendations for breaking Islam out of its current state?
We urgently need an 'Operation Ijtihad'. Islam was not always so close minded. .... Ijtihad is the Islamic tradition of critical thinking and independent reasoning. Now we have to re-discover it precisely to update Islam for the 21st century. The opportunity to update is especially available to Muslims in the West, because it's here that we enjoy precious freedoms to think, express, challenge and be challenged without fear of state reprisal. In that sense, the Islamic reformation has to begin in the West. ...

You call yourself a 'Muslim-refusenik'. What does it mean?
This does not mean that I reject to be a Muslim, but I refuse to join an army of automatons in the name of Allah. This is why the spirit of my book is about questioning. It challenges Muslims worldwide to end human rights violations committed against women and religious minorities in the name of Islam. It also calls for an end to anti-Semitism which has no basis in the preaching of the Koran.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 09/04/2004 11:47:06 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Caucasus
Terrorists posed as construction workers; got into school in July
Terrorists who took 1,000 hostages in a school near Chechnya staged a well planned attack after first scouring the area and then disguising themselves as workers rebuilding a gym, officials said yesterday. The head of the North Ossetian security service said that he was certain now that the guerrillas had located their point of attack well in advance and had not simply rushed into the school on Wednesday, the first day of the academic year, on the spur of the moment. "We found a large amount of explosives and mines and their number says that this attack was planned in advance," security chief Valery Andreyev was quoted as saying by Interfax. "The armaments were hidden on the school grounds," he said. He gave no other details but other sources fleshed out the story. One source was quoted as saying the militants first scouted out two other schools before settling on School Number One — the main one in Beslan — because it was undergoing major reconstruction work over the summer. The school needed everything, including a new floor for its gym.

The hostage-takers herded their captives into the gym on September 1 and kept them there for three days without food or water, suffocating in overwhelming humidity and heat and surrounded by home-made explosives. "Some of the teachers (who were taken hostage) recognised a few of the rebels because they worked on the school construction project... At at that point they were working on the safes," Ismel Shaov, spokesman for the interior ministry, said. "They brought in a lot of explosives while they were doing their work." One official said the hostage-takers had settled on the building in July. They posed as workers and brought in bombs, mines, rocket launchers and other weapons disguised as building material. "The bandits snuck in a large amount of arms, munitions, missiles and explosives hidden by planks, cement and other construction material," the source said. They then stashed the weapons away in a case in the basement under the new gym floor before it was laid down, Russian news reports quoted security officials as saying.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 09/04/2004 8:55:28 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This answers a thought that kept bothering me. How did these guys have the amount of explosives and gun power they were exhibiting, if they just kinda drove up in a truck and jumped out?

What &*&^%^*& to plan this around childern returning to school
Posted by: Sherry || 09/04/2004 21:23 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Hindu students protest repression of minorities
Bangladesh Chhatra Jubo Oikya Parishad, an organisation of Hindu students, yesterday protested the repression of minorities and attacks on temples at different places of the country. At a rally in the city, the Parishad leaders also demanded arrest of and punishment to the attackers. They also called for repeal of the fifth and eighth amendments to the constitution, saying that these were aimed at curbing religious freedom. Hundreds of students joined the rally at the Central Shaheed Minar with a call to ensure safety of the minorities. "Fundamentalist and communal forces are resorting to repression of minorities and attacking temples across the country, but the government has failed to arrest the culprits," said Nirmal Kumar Chatterjee, general secretary of the Parishad. He said the fanatics had destroyed idols at Doshana Gatra Temple in Gopalganj on August 28, at Toper Bari Temple in Dhamrai on August 30 and at Daspara Temple in Sreepur.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 09/04/2004 8:24:16 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: North
Egyptian oppn backs call for reforms and end of Mubarak era
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 13:38 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fred - Is this a calculated gamble that Mubarek is too feeble to defeat them, in spite of the article's assertion?

And did he ever pick a successor after that bit about his son not being up to snuff to run such a mess as Egypt?

Sounds like we're approaching the end of the farce in Egypt, to me. Lessee, that's $2Bn / yr in foreign aid we can put into the reorg & training of the new more mobile military. Mebbe a few armed UAV's can be squeezed out, too.
Posted by: .com || 09/04/2004 14:44 Comments || Top||

#2  "opposition's jail cells ready?"
"yes sir"
"start the roundup...call it ....reform"
Posted by: Frank G || 09/04/2004 15:21 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Egyptian officials set to hold Gaza talks with Arafat
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 13:30 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I didn't even bother to read the article. People who still think that Arafart is a relevant player in the Palestinian problem are only deluding themselves. Arafart is one of the roots of the problem, if not THE root of the problem, and there will be little to no progress toward any kind of solution as long as the Master Terrorist is still breathing.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 09/04/2004 15:48 Comments || Top||

#2  That's why I didn't bother to post the article. It's background noise.
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 16:17 Comments || Top||

#3  He's relevant. He's the essence of the Palestinian Spirit.
Posted by: Anonymous6092 || 09/04/2004 20:27 Comments || Top||

#4  LOL 6092!
Indeed the embodiment of the pali peoples quest for they're ancient olive groves and town homes.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/05/2004 7:25 Comments || Top||

#5  and Paris suites for Sooooooha
Posted by: Frank G || 09/05/2004 8:09 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
Darfur-Bound African Force Lacks Arms, Funds
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 13:15 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As far as African troops go, the Tutsis of Rwanda seem to be the most competent. I believe they have sufficient small arms, but lack transport. It will be interesting to see what the Janja(dick)weed does when faced with armed soldiers, instead of starving women and children. I think they will run away as almost all mooslimbs have done for the last century.
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 09/04/2004 13:50 Comments || Top||

#2  The question about the Rwandans is "what happens when the mechanizeds come out"? After all, the real advantage of government backing for the janjaweed isn't so much small arms or even militiamen as it is air cover and armored vehicles to deploy munitions.

Your optimism I believe is predicated both on the janjaweed fighting merely as an unorganized mass of infantry and upon the African force having sufficiently loose rules of engagement to effectively neutralize a janjaweed deployment or pursue retreating janjaweed.
Posted by: Edward Yee || 09/04/2004 15:15 Comments || Top||


New Somalia President to Be Sworn in September 22
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 13:05 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine
Arafat Says He Will Schedule Elections
Any day now...
Palestinians launched a voter registration drive Saturday, a first step toward long-overdue elections, and Yasser Arafat promised that voting for parliament and president would take place this winter. Arafat was one of the first of some 1.8 million eligible voters to register, presenting his passport at a polling station in his headquarters in the West Bank city of Ramallah. The Palestinian leader, confined to the compound by Israel for more than two years, gave the building as his address.

The last Palestinian general elections were in January 1996. Arafat has stood in the way of elections since then, arguing voting could not take place with Israeli soldiers occupying West Bank towns and cities. Critics say Arafat is trying to avoid elections at a time when his popularity is sinking amid widespread frustration over government corruption and his handling of the conflict with Israel. Legislator Hanan Ashrawi said Saturday that Arafat now appears committed to a vote. "We just need to work out the practical steps, including legislation," she said. "It is safe to say that the political will is there." Ali Jarbawi, head of the Palestinian Election Commission, said the registration drive would take five weeks, with a possible extension of two weeks. Once registration is completed, the law requires a three-month waiting period before elections for parliament and president of the Palestinian Authority can be held.
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 12:56:45 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Afghanistan/South Asia
Shias protest against US and Israel
Various Shia organisations demonstrated against the United States and Israel on Friday. A protest rally was taken out from Krishan Nagar after Friday prayers to condemn US aggression in Najaf. After passing through various roads, the rally ended at Karbala Gamay Shah where the protestors burnt US and Israeli flags. The speakers said US forces were killing Iraqis and they had no regard for human rights. "Iraqis must be allowed to choose their representatives through free and fair elections," they said. They said the Najaf issue was solved because of the peaceful Shia ideology. "Shias will not allow US forces to desecrate holy places in Iraq," they said. The speakers said if the US forces could attack Hazrat Ali's shrine, they could also attack other holy paces. They asked Muslims to fight the anti-Muslim forces before they attack their holy places. They criticised the Organisation of Islamic Countries (OIC) and Arab League for not doing anything to stop US aggression.
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 11:27:53 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  For the record, I consider schools to be holy places.
Posted by: Matt || 09/04/2004 11:51 Comments || Top||

#2  I have a difficult time comprehending Pakland's Shias. The local Deobandis and Wahhabis bump them off for fun, so they protest against the USA.

I guess it makes sense. Not a lot of sense, but sense.
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Didn't Suliman the Magnificant brag that he had destroyed something on the order of 30,000 churches? And, I will note, that mosques have been intentionally built on top of the Jewish temple, several prominant Hindu temples, and several destroyed churches. Oh, and the Basilica at Constantinople was converted into a mosque.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/04/2004 13:39 Comments || Top||

#4  I think we should people the playing fields of stadiums throughout Islam with shias and Wahabis and make them fight to the death. In order to demonstrate to those who truly abhor war see who it is that never stops thinking about war; because even if the big bad West was ever, god forbid, to be subdued, they would immediately start fighting amongst theyselves.
Shias vs Wahabs, Wahabs vs Cornholios, or Deobandi vs Sufis, or
Salafi vs fill-in-the-blank.
Miserable cannibals... Stinking filth...ridiculous "civilization", baby killers, child murderers...racist MoFos. Sexist freakshow...
Vomit pigs. Spawn of Satan..Burn our cathedrals? Blow up our places of education? A "mosque" ain't nothing but a slaughterhouse; I say we direct that flow, you know, for their own freaking good.
Posted by: Annie War || 09/04/2004 14:07 Comments || Top||

#5  ...Having said that, this pretty well makes the case for interment ironclad; how else to pre-empt the jihadi scum in this country with plans for the same thing (as in Beslan, Chechneea) in our schools, our veterans hospitals, our churches (as in yugoslavia, Iraq), our synagogues, our public places...?
Its not that we who must surrender our civil liberties; we will volutarily give up some of the things we would otherwise be at liberty to do; for we recognise that we are in a state of war.
It is muslims in this country who must be compelled to forfeit civil liberties they disdain, civil liberties they condemn in the name of shri'a, civil liberties they take for granted, or don't wish to even appreciate, much less understand. Beeeecoz
They have a choice to make, and if they don't, and insist on not making the decision between loyalty to this country or islamic compulsion, then it is incumbent that we of this country will be compelled to make the choice for them.
Happy now A-hose?
I'm pretty well disgusted with the respose of Irans http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040904/wl_afp/ (medias label, not mine) "president" Mohammed Khatami, who expressed "sadness and remorse" to Vladimir Putin. "remorse" eh? Then do you plan to stop the Iranian state sponsored terror you have exported since before the beginning of the "Islamic democratic republic of Iran"?(or whatever you call yourselves). Hmmm?

I didn't think so...

"President" Mohammadasahatter Katami, lets get this one straight, We will support our brother, our sister Israel, for this fundamental reason: Israel is a democratically elected government, and, as in Afganistan, and now in Iraq, it is therefore the solution , not the problem, to achieving peace and prosperity for all, not you or your "government."
Posted by: Annie War || 09/04/2004 15:05 Comments || Top||

#6  My goodness, Annie! I am wordless.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/04/2004 15:57 Comments || Top||

#7  Fred; from what I have read, most Shias believe that the Wahabis/Deobandis/Americans are in league against them, pointing to the close relations between KSA and US. It also is not safe to be seen as supportive of Americans in Pakistan, so it help to be just as anti-American as everyone else.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 09/04/2004 19:44 Comments || Top||

#8  to condemn US aggression in Najaf

Me? I think we had too little US aggression in Najaf. We let too many of Tatr's boys go.
Posted by: Xbalanke || 09/04/2004 22:12 Comments || Top||


Centre interfering in NWFP govt's affairs, says Qazi
Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) Chief Qazi Hussain Ahmed said on Friday that the federal government was illegally interfering in the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) government's affairs and that the religious alliance would foil all such plots. The JI chief said there was no pressure group or accountability group within the MMA and that this was just propaganda by the MMA's opponents. He said he would call Deputy Speaker Ikramullah Shahid and MMA Provincial Information Secretary Mufti Kafayatullah to settle the matter.

Mr Hussain, who was talking to reporters at Masjid Mohabbat Khan, criticised the countrywide crackdown on religious seminaries, saying the action was being taken at the behest of the United States. "The US and its allies want to defame Islam and Muslims and the crackdown on religious institutions is part of that drive," the JI chief said. Mr Hussain asked the government to change the pro-US policies, warning that the religious alliance would launch an agitation against the government if it did not change its pro-US policies. The MMA leader said the provincial government was bound to enforce the Hasba Act as the law would solve the problems of the people and ensure implementation of Sharia. He said the Hasba Act was neither a parallel judicial system nor contrary to the country's laws or Holy Quran and Sunnah.
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 11:26:45 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Separate province for Pakhtuns?
Mahmood Khan Achakzai, chairman of the Pakhtunkhwa Milli Awami Party (PkMAP), on Friday said that Pakistan was a multi-nation state where each nation should have equal rights and control over its own resources. Mr Achakzai said that Pakhtuns wanted to live in a separate province. He demanded a new constitution because he believed the 1973 Constitution was an impediment in their way. Mr Achakzai said his party wanted equal rights for every "nation" in the country and that each "nation" should have control over its own resources. "That's what the UN Charter says," he added.
We're halfway to what we want. They get a separate nation, now all we need is the razor wire and moat for the border.
The nationalist leader from Balochistan strongly opposed the role of the army and intelligence agencies in the country's politics. "Unless they (army and intelligence agencies) stay away from politics, Pakistan can never stop experiencing internal political crises and external threats," said the PkMAP chief while speaking at a Peshawar Press Club programme. Mr Achakzai, whose party is part of the Pakistan Oppressed Nations Movement (PONM), urged all religious and political parties to get together at one platform to struggle for a separate Pakhtun province with a name other than the North West Frontier Province (NWFP). He said the army and the intelligence agencies blackmailed and bribed politicians to change their loyalties and join other parties, which was earning Pakistan a bad reputation. "The country has seen three prime ministers in three months at the behest of a general which is dangerous politics," he said. He added that his party wanted democracy and supremacy of parliament. Mr Achakzai said the 1973 Constitution did not exist anymore as it had now been transformed into the Legal Framework Order (LFO) by a uniformed president. "It's martial law and the chief martial law administrator and his corps commanders are ruling the country. It's dangerous for the survival of the country," said Mr Achakzai. The Pakhtun nationalist held the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) leaders Qazi Hussain Ahmed and Maulana Fazlur Rehman responsible for accepting the 17th Amendment and strengthening the hands of President General Pervez Musharraf. "The general was all alone and had no way out of the situation but the MMA provided him safe passage by accepting the LFO in the form of the 17th Amendment," he said.
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 11:24:16 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Actually the Pakhtunkhwa movement weas traditionally a secular, liberal movement that was opposed to both the Islamic Fundamentalists and the Military establishment, which is why the latter two worked together to crush it.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 09/04/2004 19:41 Comments || Top||


Bangladeshi Politician Blasts 'Hostile Media' in India
A key component in Prime Minister Khaleda Zia's four-party ruling alliance has found "a dangerous conspiracy against Bangladesh" in a hostile media campaign raging in neighboring India.
Truth hurts, eh?
Matiur Rahman Nizami, who heads the Jamaat-e-Islami party, told a crowded news conference in Dhaka yesterday that he believes all terrorist acts, including bombings and grenade attacks, are "targeted against Bangladesh, democracy and Islam".
Targeted against Bangladesh, sure, targeted against democracy, you betcha, targeted against Islam ... ... ...
Although he would not precisely name the conspirators, Nizami said they were deeply concerned over the e-mail threats to kill opposition leader Hasina Wajed and Prime Minister Zia as well as "instigations" by Indian newspapers — the Statesman, the Hindustan Times and the Hindu. "The Statesman in its editorials on Aug. 26 and 29 directly urged the Indian government to interfere in Bangladesh. There is no doubt that the matter is very serious," Nizami said.

He also accused a part of the media of launching deliberate campaign to brand Bangladesh correctly as a den of fundamentalist forces. Nizami said his party would stand against any Islamic groups if their links to the grenade attacks on the Awami League rally in Dhaka on Aug. 21 were proved. "We don't believe they have any links, but if their involvement is proved through investigation, we will take a firm stand against them," he told reporters at Jamaat's central office. Nizami, however, said "known enemies of Islam" were using some organizations to stage subversive acts "in the name of Islam and damage the image of Islam" and Islamist parties. He said those who launched the grenade attack at Hasina's rally were "neither friend of the government nor the opposition". "They are enemies of Bangladesh, democracy, humanity and the religion of Islam," Nizami said.
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 11:17:43 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: Horn
Qaradawi Says Global Aid Agencies Proselytizing in Darfur
A prominent Egyptian religious scholar yesterday accused international aid agencies operating in Sudan' war-torn Darfur region of using relief distribution to convert the region's Muslim population to Christianity. Sheikh Yussef Al-Qaradawi made the charge during a sermon at Khartoum's Martyrs' Mosque, where he led the Friday prayers. He charged that the West was conspiring against Muslims the world over, including in Darfur. "We are in a big battle with our foes," said Qaradawi, adding that it was a military, political as well as religious battle, in a sermon that was carried live by state television. "They are conspiring against us religiously," he added. Qaradawi said there was a host of non-governmental organizations operating in Darfur under cover of "charity", but in reality they were actively preaching the Gospel and converting the local population to Christianity.

He added that of the 53 international agencies in Darfur, only four had Islamic affiliations and called on Muslim nations to mobilize and come to the aid of the region's people. The sheikh, a regular guest on the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera satellite channel's religious talk shows, arrived in the Sudanese capital late Thursday at the head of a delegation of Islamic scholars to try to mediate an end to the 18-month conflict in Darfur.

Qaradawi urged Darfur's Muslims not to "attack each other" and not to allow their "enemies and the enemies of your nation" to use the conflict as an excuse to interfere in Sudan's internal affairs. Muslims were capable of handling their own affairs, he said. "We are not slaves to anyone, but Allah," he added. Qaradawi and members of his delegation were expected to meet religious and political leaders in Khartoum before traveling to Darfur.
Posted by: Fred || 09/04/2004 11:11:35 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Arab Muslims mass raping black Muslims: Silence
Arab Muslims killing tens of thousands of black Muslims: Silence
Arab Muslims driving millions of black Muslims from their villages: Silence
Christians bring these black Muslims aid: Arab Muslims scream "TIME TO MOBILISE"

Maybe the Arab Muslims can use some of that jihad money on humanitarian aid for once though.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 09/04/2004 11:41 Comments || Top||

#2  If Islam is as superior as they say, Christian prosletyzing will just confirm the Muslims in their own faith, rather than otherwise. Why are the Mullahs, then, concerned?
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/04/2004 12:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Where are the Muslim charities administering to Darfur's Muslims? Are they too busy expanding in Christian countries and advocating jihad to administer to needy blacks in Africa?
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/04/2004 14:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Okay, lemmie get this straight: Muslims attack Muslims, and the Muslim government doesn't do a thing to stop the attacks or disarm the Muslim attackers. Muslim Cries for help go unheeded in the Arab League, and the other Muslim countries worry more about Sudanese sovereignty than human lives being lost. Of the NGO's that DO respond, the CHRISTIANS, fer cryin' out loud, outnumber the Muslim ones TWELVE TO ONE.

NOW this Arab Muslim Learned Scholar is worried that Muslims, who are attacked by Muslims and not being protected or helped much by Muslims, are going to ask why, if Islam is superior to Christianity, that its the CHRISTIANS that are giving a damn about them?

That they may become Christians because being on the receiving end of Jihad sucks more than being on the receiving end of compassion?

That, if they're going to be Muslims being killed by Muslims, they may as well become Christians and be killed by muslim to register contempt for their attackers, their government, and their religion in the only way they know how?

Make way for the Clue Train! ((c) Misha @nicedoggie.net)
Posted by: Ptah || 09/04/2004 19:47 Comments || Top||

#5 
of the 53 international agencies in Darfur, only four had Islamic affiliations

I'm surprised there are as many as four.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 09/04/2004 22:12 Comments || Top||

#6  Why ain't this mook on a whack list. Shits like him are more dangerous than any doofus with an AK.
Posted by: Old Fogey || 09/04/2004 22:30 Comments || Top||


Russia
Putin Promises Tougher Response to Terror
Posted by: Lux || 09/04/2004 11:10 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Right now, the one single thing that Putin can do to maintain any credibility is shutting down all further collaboration with Iran. Russia should issue orders for all of their citizens to withdraw and publicize the exact extent of nuclear equipment and processes supplied to the mullahs plus any known locations of same.

If Putin is unable to do this, then he must begin to accept personal blame for the Beslan atrocity.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/04/2004 15:43 Comments || Top||

#2  Bush should tell Vlad to shop his proposals to Gerd and Jacques. Then talk to us, knowing that he's either with us or the Euros. Choose.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 09/04/2004 16:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Zenster, it's obvious that Israel is behind world-wide terrorism and thorough investigations should be conducted by the Russians. If attacks on Russia tie Israel into the loop, Putin should issue a warning to Israel that any future attacks will be punished tenfold.
Posted by: UFO || 09/04/2004 16:16 Comments || Top||

#4  DFTT
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 09/04/2004 16:19 Comments || Top||

#5  LOL - UFO - your own words condemn you to trolldom!
Posted by: Frank G || 09/04/2004 16:20 Comments || Top||

#6 
Too right, Mrs. Davis!
Posted by: Zenster || 09/04/2004 18:08 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Cofer Black coming to Bangladesh
Washington's special envoy on counter-terrorism Joseph Cofer Black arrives here tomorrow on a two-day trip probably to discuss bilateral collaboration to combat terrorism. The former head of CIA counter-terrorism and now US State Department's coordinator for counter-terrorism is coming to Dhaka following the US State Department's recent observation on stronger terrorist presence in Bangladesh.

Black's visit is also seen as a sequel to US Assistant Secretary of State Christina Rocca's visit in May, when she noted, "Bangladesh is going off its tolerant track record," and Congressman Joseph Crowley's in January who said, "Intolerance is taking hold in some parts of Bangladesh."
Seems to happen whereever itinerant preachers of a certain type intersect with oil money from select princes.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Dan Darling || 09/04/2004 1:53:19 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Al Qaeda operatives arrived in Bangladesh (Cox's Bazaar) in 1992. They have trained Rohingya rebels active in Burma's Arakan State, and they are also known to be making trouble in India's far east. Bangladesh has just reacted by placing three Islamic charities on their hit list, but the actions may be coming too late. It seems that the AQ terrorists have found a home to replace Afghanistan.
Posted by: Tancred || 09/04/2004 11:53 Comments || Top||



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