A morality teacher at a mosque who hit one of his young pupils with a metre-long stick was convicted of common assault yesterday. Mohammed Abdullah, 44, of Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, hit the 11-year-old boy with a stick after he found that the pupil had drawn a rude picture during a class in April. The child, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, suffered bruising and swelling around his neck. Abdullah, who works as a cleaner and was teaching on a voluntary basis, was released on bail by Peterborough magistrates and is due to be sentenced on October 12. The child told Peterborough magistrates court he thought he would be killed in the attack. "I thought he [Abdullah] was going to kill me when he hit me that hard. I literally couldn't breathe. He said: 'Don't tell your parents. If you do, we'll hit you'." The boy said that Abdullah had used a stick which was about one metre (3ft) long and 5cm in diameter. He said the top had been wrapped in sticky tape to create a handle. "He hit me on one of my arms, then he poked me in the chest with the stick and pushed me down," the boy said. "It was very hard - it winded me. He told me: 'I hit you for your own benefit. Take it like a man.' "I fell backwards and on to the ground. He pulled me back up to my knees with my ears. He held me with one ear and hit the stick on my neck."
Abdullah, who denied common assault, said he had grabbed the boy around the shoulders to restrain him as he attempted to leave the class 10 minutes early. He told the court he had been a voluntary teacher in the class for about two years. Although he had no formal qualifications, he had been trained by another teacher and supervised by the headteacher. He said he had taught morals to children aged between eight and 12. He taught them how to be clean, how to worship Allah, and how to behave with their parents. Towards the end of the lesson, he noticed some of the boys giggling. He discovered the child had drawn a picture showing a man's penis. The boy claimed it was a caveman with a club. "I got him by the hand," he told the court. "My fingers were on his shoulders. If he was really very bad, I would take him to the headteacher and the parents would be called. I am not a violent man. I have no record of violence." But magistrate Peter Marshal said the bench had found the boy to be a credible witness and his injuries were consistent with the assault. The boy's father said later that there should be a system of regulating teachers in mosques and other religious schools.
ULSTER is included on a possible terrorist "hit-list", at the centre of a major international security exercise to be launched next spring. Security experts think Northern Ireland could be a possible "backdoor" target for an al-Qaida attack on Britain.
"Patrick, he rather looks as if he's not from around here."
"Faith, Sean, and was it the turban that gave it away?"
"Might we call the constabulary office in Belfast, Patrick?"
"And spoil the fun, Sean? Don't be a silly fellow."
According to a well-placed source, the security services here, including MI5, have been working on the planned exercise involving Britain, the United States and Canada for the past two years. The Irish republic has also been kept informed. Code-named "Atlantic Blue", it will involve personnel drawn from military, police, rescue and security services on both sides of the Atlantic. Dublin's task force on emergency planning has also been consulted, since any attack on Northern Ireland might involve terrorist overflying of the Republic's airspace. The planned scenario is a supposed terrorist attack firstly on the United States, which then spreads to the UK. Use of suicide-mission aircraft, as in the 9/11 attacks, with chemical, biological and radioactive attacks are all on the schedule.
Although the central focus of the UK part of the exercise is obviously on world-prestige targets in London, Northern Ireland also figures as a possible focus for a sneak attack, perhaps designed to divert defence attention from a main thrust on the British capital. Ulster targets, on which a special MI5 working group has been advising on security in the event of an al-Qaida attack, include Belfast's two airports, parliament buildings at Stormont, and several prominent Belfast high-rise skyscrapers. It is also understood, that with the discreet agreement of the Dublin government, the RAF has also been taking part in regular "familiarisation", exercises in southern Irish airspace. A UK security source suggests that, should a civilian airliner be hi-jacked in the Republic for use as a September 11 bomb, the RAF would be called in to shoot it down.
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Don't piss the Red Hand Gang off... just a word of warning.
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"â¦the RAF would be called in to shoot it down." Works for me I never fly.
Seeing how xenophobic (esp with "aisaians") Northern Ireland is I can't see how these folk plan on going unnoticed or unmolested.
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Quite - the resulting lynchings of muslims would be quite a spetacle. I can't think why you'd want to wind-up the Loyalists and the Republicans!? Whole lotta trouble if they did.
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King Billy was a gentleman
He wore a watch and chain
Osama made it on the dole
He lived on Jiihad Lane
King Billy had an orange cat
that sat upon the fender
And every time it caught a mouse
He shouted "No Surrender!"
---A perversion of an old Belfast street song
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Costa Rica deported two men who tried to enter Costa Rica over the weekend using well-crafted false European documents and who officials fear may have had links to terrorists, the country's immigration director said Monday. It was unclear where the men were Monday. Immigration Director Marco Badilla said Costa Rica chose to deport the two, who may have been Jordanians, "for convenience, because we do not want to have people like that here" and to avoid the bother of a court case. "If they are detained, in order to accuse them of using a false document, that's a slow judicial process," he said.
Badilla said the men were expelled Sunday on a flight to Honduras with a stop in El Salvador. They were supposedly headed to Canada, though it was unclear if they had disembarked in any of those countries. "We cannot confirm that we are dealing with terrorists, but neither can we discount the possibility that they have some link to that type of group," he told The Associated Press. Badilla said the men were found to have Jordanian passports identifying them as Ismail Mohamad Nassar and Fawas Ne Meh Mousa. They had presented immigration officers with documents from Belgium and France identifying them as Maximilien O. Regout L.R.M and Sylvain Marcel Hurel Yannic.
"We classified them as presumed Jordanians because we did not trust any of the documents they carried, which were adulterated or false, but of very high quality," Badilla said. Badilla said the men told officials they had flown from Jordan to Spain on Sept. 5, and then traveled to Cuba and Guatemala. They said they purchased false passports there and then went by road to Honduras. "I don't believe that version is reliable because the route is very complicated. What's more, they said they paid $1,000 for the documents, but they were very fine work. It can't be that they were charged that," Badilla said. He said he was also suspicious because they were "very calm, very cold," and they tried to bribe agents at the airport so that they could fly to Canada using the false European documents. He said officials had notified the U.S. government as well as the international police agency Interpol. Elaine Samson, spokeswoman for the U.S. Embassy here, said she knew about the case only from news media reports, but said Costa Rica was not required to notify the United States since the men were not headed there.
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The jihadic enemy will seek out nations in which payoffs in order to enter the country are the norm.
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Countries react differently to terrorism. After the Sept. 11 attacks, Americans rallied behind their government of their own free will. After the Madrid train bombings last March, Spaniards ousted theirs. President Vladimir Putin took steps last week that seem to ensure that Russians will do neither. After modern Russia's worst terrorist act — the horrifying seizure of a school that ended with more than 330 hostages dead — Putin ordered an overhaul of the political system, stripping Russians of their right to elect their governors and district representatives in Parliament. Putin's response seemed like a non sequitur, since how the country conducts its elections on the regional level has little, if anything, to do with fighting the terrorism that war in Chechnya has spawned.
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Yeltsin is still conscious? When he was in power, he seemed to spend most of his time in the hospital for alcoholism. Now, he has time to write newspaper columns?
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Yeltsin is still conscious? When he was in power, he seemed to spend most of his time in the hospital for alcoholism. Now, he has time to write newspaper columns?
He is Russia's homegrown version of Osama bin Laden, but with a trademark all his own: dramatic mass hostage-takings that have often turned to bloodbaths. Like bin Laden, Shamil Basayev is an elusive target who has evaded capture for years. Chechnya's Deputy Interior Minister Sultan Satuyev told the Interfax news agency on Sunday that a search operation involving 1,000 personnel was under way in Chechnya's mountains after intelligence reports suggested that Basayev was in the republic. But Russian forces have claimed to have reliable tips on Basayev's location in the past — and failed to catch him.
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"We regret what happened in Beslan.
Horseshit! No you do not "regret what happened" in the least. If you were at all concerned about such an atrocity occurring, you would not have taken any children hostage. PERIOD. What you did manage to do was justify the most brutal retribution on Russia's behalf. Furthermore, Beslan probably tapped out a large portion of the world's sympathy for Chechnya. Great move, you bloodthirsty murdering moron. You got the hammer dropped on you and made sure nobody gives a rip what happens when it hits.
Itâs simply that the war, which (Russian President Vladimir) Putin declared on us five years ago, which has destroyed more than 40,000 Chechen children and crippled more than 5,000 of them, has gone back to where it started from," he wrote in the letter.
I don't recall Russia intentionally bombing any school houses. Answering a putative atrocity with a definite atrocity doesn't tend to win you much support, as you're about to find out.
"The fact that he took full responsibility of course does not mean that by liquidating the problem that exists in connection with Basayev, all the rest will disappear," Lavrov said.
No, the problem won't disappear. There will still be Iran. Until Russia stops supplying Iran with nuclear technology, they bear a distinct degree of responsibility for Beslan and all future terrorist attacks.
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hey Zenster, one thing : over 60% of the Chechen schools & hospitals have been severely damaged during last wars. That only happens if it's done with the intention to do so.
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No Anonymous6562, even if 100% of the schools and hospitals were severely damaged that would still NOT prove intent.
You cannot prove intent with a figure.
Even if I am assuming for the point of argument that your figure of 60% is right, those schools and hospitals could well have been damaged unintentionally as part of ordinary soldier on soldier fighting: particularly if chechyn soldiers took shelter in those hospitals and schools using them as human shields.
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even if 100% of the schools and hospitals were severely damaged that would still NOT prove intent.
Yep. The Russians lack the highly accurate weapons we possess and can't be expected to wage a war with as little collateral damage as is inflicted by the US. Schools, hospitals, mosques & other public places tend to be located in populated areas which in this type of war tend to house the enemy. Get back to me when the Russians undertake a Dresden-style leveling of Chechen cities.
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A common Chechen tactic during the war was to set up next to a school or hospital, and begin firing artillery at the Russians. The Russians would spot the rounds on radar, and return fire to the point of origin. The Chechen fighters would quickly flee before the return fire, and the school or hospital would be destroyed with loss of life. The Chechens explained that they were doing it to get the population on their side by blaming the Russians for atrocities.
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Those Chechens sure have a habit of using kids and the weaker members of society so that they can hide from their direct responsibility for terrorist acts. What a model of courage in battle, huh? They vie for the world title of Scapegoating Cowards.
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The bottom line is that post-Soviet Russia is dangerously close to being a failed state. Neither Yeltsin nor Putin nor any other possible candidate in the wings could put down the Chechen rebellion with the shambles of a military that Russia has. (For that matter, the Russian state cannot collect taxes, pay pensions, pass laws or enforce them, let alone protect the borders and prevent the Russian regional governors from building powerful fiefdoms largely independent of central federal control).
Russia = North Pakistan. White faces, black shirts. FSB's incompetence is as dangerous to us as the ISI. If Putin fails, we're in deep trouble.
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Rodong Sinmun, an official North Korean newspaper, said in an editorial that the secret nuclear activities in South Korea in 1982 and 2000 were an "inevitable result of double standards" applied by the United States, the South's chief ally.
The comments, which echoed other North Korean statements in recent days, were another blow to troubled efforts to hold another round of talks aimed at persuading North Korea to end its nuclear weapons development. Last Thursday, North Korea said it would not attend planned six-party talks on its nuclear activities until South Korea fully discloses the details of its secret atomic experiments.
Useful NorK excuse #7734. So the SKors make a little plut, and came clean. The NorKs want to make plut and will never come clean. The six-way talks are a complete waste of time, effort, and cuisine. We need to let the Chicoms know that if they want to feed their little mad Kim dog, it is on their nickel (or yuan) and the SKors and Japan will do what they have to do in order to insure the defense of their homelands. That may include missile defense and/or nuclear capability. Diplomacy with the likes of Jimmuh and Matty Halfbright is a proven failure and we ain't a-goin' theh no mo'.
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By Emily Beament, City Staff, PA News
Anglo-Irish oil and gas company Aminex today unveiled a deal to help develop the petroleum industry in North Korea. Aminex has won the opportunity to search for oil anywhere in the country as part of North Korea's drive to develop a local energy industry. Under the 20-year deal, Aminex will receive royalties on all oil drilled in the country in return for providing technical assistance and promoting the industry around the world. The company will also be entitled to an interest in wells drilled by incoming companies.
The highly secretive Communist state has an existing petroleum industry, with several wells drilled over the past 25 years. In a statement to the Stock Exchange, Aminex said there was a large potential for new discoveries — but progress had been held back by a lack of resources. The company signed the deal in June in Pyongyang, subject to closing conditions which have now been fulfilled. Chief executive Brian Hall said: "At present relations between North Korea and the outside world are strained but the important relationship with South Korea appears to be improving and commercial co-operation is on the increase. "An expanding energy industry may possibly help to build bridges between North Korea and the outside world." Shares rose 32% to 12.87p today.
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Huummh, sounds like something the Company would have done back in the good old and cold days. Wonder if its the Brits or USA sitting behind this front?
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The Norks make their own oil by jucheing up the grass which makes it to the decay process and rocks.
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Good thought, RN. Could be a good front. I cannot believe any company with a stock price of 12.87p is nothing but a scam, but maybe they meant that the price went up 12.87p......
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From Khilafah, crediting AFP
An Islamic conference organised by a group calling for resistance to the US-led occupation of Iraq was on Monday banned from taking place in Berlin by the regional authorities. The city's regional minister of the interior Ehrhart Koerting said the aims of the conference stated by the organisers overstepped the line of what was permissible in Germany.
The website of the "first Arab Islamic Congress in Europe", planned to take place on October 1-3, carries the title "No to US occupation of Iraq, no to Zionist occupation of Palestine". Under the sub-heading "Stand up and perform resistance," the organisers call for the "liberation of all the occupied territories and countries in struggle against the American-Zionist hegemony and occupation".
A Lebanese citizen who is one of the organisers was deported from Germany on Saturday following an investigation into his membership of "questionable organisations". And on Friday the government announced it would not provide visas for anyone who gave attending the conference as the purpose of their visit to Germany.
The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a leading Jewish organization known primarily for its work in tracking down Nazi war criminals, says the real purpose of the Congress is to recruit suicide bombers and raise funds. The Central Council of Muslims in Germany and the Islamic Council of Germany have distanced themselves from the event, saying they had not been invited to attend and did not know the organisers.
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How about getting the roster for the event and deporting them all to their Islamic paradises.
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The official Sudan news agency (SUNA) quoted British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw on Monday as saying his country opposes sanctions against Sudan. According to the agency, Straw telephoned Chinese Foreign Minister Li Zhaoxing expressing his appreciation for the active role China has played in the Darfur crisis, and said Britain, too, does not support the sanctions.
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09/20/2004 22:22 Comments ||
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What's Jack Straw's postion on arming the Furs so they can defend themselves from slaughter?
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Sounds like Britain's starting to follow the French path re appeasing China.
Mark my words, fellow 'mericans: we're back to the days of the early Republic. Can't trust anyone in this New World Disorder but ourselves. All relations with foreign powers must be conducted on the basis of a ruthless and unsentimental calculation of US national interest. Russia and India are more important to us today than any nation in Europe.
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The Russians just finished the delivery of a batch of Mig-29's to the Sudan, and are negotiating the sale of another.
Anyone have any better ideas?
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I don't give a sh*t about Sudan. I care about Iran, and we desperately need Russia to be on our side there. They're the ones with the nuclear stocks and the mafiya and the border with Iran. The support of the EU Dwarves is inconsequential.
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I am skeptical about a SUNA quote of Straw commending China on their pro-genocide position with respect to Darfur. Didn't the UK put forward the idea of collecting troops for peace-keeping in Sudan a month of two ago?
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SH- I tried to find more info on this, could only find two reports, besides SUNA, and the two reports are from Chinese news sources:
http://www.china.org.cn/english/international/107640.htm
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200409/21/eng20040921_157712.html
So, China is the source, maybe there was a miscommunication, but China is stating that Straw said Britain is against sanctions.
I suppose the only way to know for sure if this is true is to contact the UK govt and ask them.
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During the early days of the Soviet-Sino war, the Brits made a lot of pounds selling engines for Chinee fighters, in addition to other military equipment. The Chinee, for their part has a long-standing relationship with the Sudanese gov't.
The Chinese made mucho moola from construction contracts, such as several large hotels. I stayed in one that had a plumbing system that followed medieval garderobe design. The fire extinguishers had all the right parts, itâs just that the connecting 6 in. piece of bronze pipe (water source to hose mount) was actually steel and corroded shut.
But I digress. Thereâs a long standing relationship between the Brits, the Chinese and the Sudan and , as always, follow the money.
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Russia is a failing state. Ukraine is a failed state. And the former SovUnion WMD candy store is wide open. Tell me again why we're wasting so much time with the French and the Germans?
The trail began in the desert mayhem of Saudi Arabia and led to a suspected Islamic network operating in the Alpine tranquillity of Switzerland. After Al Qaeda bombers attacked three expatriate housing compounds in Riyadh last year, killing 34 foreigners, Saudi investigators recovered a suspect's cell phone. They made a startling discovery: The phone's memory contained 36 Swiss numbers. And one of them belonged to an alleged Yemeni extremist based in the pristine village of Aegerten, an area known more for clockmakers than for terrorists.
The resulting investigation by Swiss police has led to 10 arrests in the past year. According to a preliminary indictment filed on July 30, the inquiry has unmasked a logistics and finance network in Switzerland with ties to top Al Qaeda figures and terrorist cells across Europe, West Asia, Africa and Asia. The indictment includes charges of supplying fraudulent documents, smuggling itinerant West Asian extremists into Switzerland and using criminal rackets to raise and move ''important sums of money'' to cells in Europe and the Gulf region.
Switzerland entered the picture in 2002, when investigators found that Al Qaeda's operational boss, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, and his associates were using Swiss cellular phones. Intercepts revealed that Mohammed, who has since been captured, was in touch with a Swiss convert in a plot that led to the bombing of a Tunisian synagogue in 2002. The Swiss convert remains free, though several Yemenis who attended the Biel Islamic centre like him have been indicted last month.
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Boris Pribich
P.O. Box 1154
Simi Valley, California 93062
United States
pribich@gte.net
805 522 1363
FAX 805 522 6642
I am pretty sure gte.net/Verzion TOS precludes
spam posting.
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Boris Pribich
P.O. Box 1154
Simi Valley, California 93062
United States
pribich@gte.net
805 522 1363
FAX 805 522 6642
I am pretty sure gte.net/Verzion TOS precludes
spam posting.
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C'mon, Info, 'fess up: you're a Mossad agent, aren't you? Perhaps the one on punishment detail under poor Boris' bed? Or maybe the CIA contact who reports to them?
#7
No, not me. But there's so many of us it's hard to keep track of everybody. We sometimes have operations on top of operations on top of operations. It can get messy, but not nearly as messy as it is under this bed.
Made you look, UFOOL.
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09/20/2004 12:22 Comments ||
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The Mossad is a mere yut. You are required to respond to S'all right....
With:
All Right!
:)
s'all rite?
#9
Boris has been dropping turds on other peoples websites for several years. He's changed the name of his site from "satanrules.com" by now, replacing it with his various "defense leagues." He has a category all to himself in the Hate Directory. He's a nut, and because he's a nut he'll continue coming back. When he's not pooping here we'll know the men in white coats have come for him, and when he comes back we'll know his benefits ran out at the home.
Ptui.
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Hey, Fred. I'm impressed. Do you know you made the Sink Trap?
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81.93.75.7
Wonder why his server is in Bosnia and Herzegovina?
Running out of hosting that will have him?
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Adjust the STG* knob setting from HIGH to MEDIUM and all will be fine.
*Sink Trap Gain
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Hey Boris--
That's a hell of an interesting post Fred pointed to. Since you were blaming Bosnian Muslims back in 1998, does that not show that you were at that time merely a pawn of the Zionists? Jews are much, much smarter than you--not that that's saying so much, since you're clearly subnormal--no wonder you're so jealous of them.
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Give me a freeking break. Rooters and the AP don't know a terrorist when they see them. They feel it's more imoprtant to be part of the story than report the story. By miss-appling the words "militants" and insurgents" to terrorist they are then allied with terrorists and should be treated as such. The now are fair game for reprisals everytime any innocent is murdered by a sucide bomber or gunned down.
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FROM: EDITOR
TO: REPORTERS, COPY WRITERS
RE: "TERRORIST"
DUE TO RECENT COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE USE OF THE WORD "TERRORIST" TO DESCRIBE TERRORIST GROUPS, WE ARE IMPLEMENTING A NEW POLICY. HENCEFORTH, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO REPLACE THE WORD "TERRORIST" WITH "MUSLIM." WE FEEL THAT THIS SHOULD CLEAR UP ANY CONFUSION THAT MIGHT BE FELT BY OUR READERS.
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EFL Make My Community Safe: End Sexual Violence Speech delivered on Wednesday September 15, 2004-09-15 at Media Conference
By Homa Arjomand
I am pleased to be among you today....
As an activist for Women's equality in Iran; as a transitional counselor who works directly with abused women, particularly battered immigrant women; and as a founder of the Campaign against Sharia court in Canada, I have consistently opposed the involvement of religion in the justice system.
I would like to describe the situation of women and young girls living in the so called Islamic communities of Ontario. Girls are segregated from boys at a very young age in Islamic schools and are forced, at this tender age, to wear veils (Islamic Hijab) and are prohibited from participating in sports and games in playgrounds. Sexual assault is permitted by forcing girls as young as 13 into arranged marriages. Parents are given the right to deprive their daughters of education. Children are isolated from mainstream society. Polygamy (the practice of having more than one wife at the same time) is becoming the norm in these communities...
[here is her solution]
... we should not hesitate to call upon the authorities to empower battered immigrant women by removing family law from the Arbitration Act 1991.
- this would allow Sharia to be used in handling, say, disputes between merchants -
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Respectfully, does Homa Arjomand imagine that the all-encompassing mistreatment women experience in family law under sharia will not find a way to express itself in mercantile law? Are no merchants in Canada women?
However, I think women are treated much better in Sharia merchatile law then in family law because of the precendents in the Hadith. The prophet's first wife, who was older than the prophet, was a wealthy merchant who basically kept him while he strutted around making comments and having his deity flip flopping on issues such as the treatment of the kafr, how many wives is allowable, the worship of the black stone, etc.
JOHNSTOWN, Pa., Sept. 19 - Opening a weeklong Democratic offensive on Iraq and terror, Senator John Edwards promised Sunday that a Kerry White House would eliminate what he called a "backdoor draft'' of Reservists and National Guard members and would "crush'' Al Qaeda. On a day when he alone among the presidential and vice-presidential candidates campaigned, Mr. Edwards, the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, added fresh elements to his standard remarks on war and terror, two subjects that polls suggest rank at the top of voter concerns.
Mr. Edwards's comments came as Terry McAuliffe, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, promised a new salvo this week against the Bush administration's Iraq policy. Mr. McAuliffe, in a conference call with reporters on Sunday, said that Mr. Kerry would deliver a major speech on Iraq on Monday and would criticize President Bush's handing of the war in a new advertisement, and that party officials would hold a news conference with mothers of soldiers stationed in Iraq.
Oh, that'll go over well. Does McAuliffe have the worst tin ear of anyone in politics?
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(Doing balancing motions with hands.) "Sensitive" war on terror / "crush." "Sensitive" war on terror / "crush." Hmmmm.... Sounds a little contradictory. Coming from Kerry? No way.
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I think the reporter mis-heard it. He probably said "...we will find Al Qaeda where they are and we'll have a crush on them before they can do damage to the American people."
That's sensitive! In no time, they will turn Al Qaeda into a bunch of fluffy bunnies.
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Mr. McAuliffe, in a conference call with reporters on Sunday, said that Mr. Kerry would deliver a major speech on Iraq on Monday and would criticize President Bush's handing of the war in a new advertisement...A senior Kerry adviser said the speech would address "what needs to be done" but would not present a point-by-point exit plan...
In every sense, this has always been and continues to be the Democrats fatal flaw-critiquing what's wrong and not materializing what's right.
Kerry won't talk about a "point-by-point exit plan"? Then he better talk about a point-by-point plan to stay the course. One way or the other, he will sink deeper and deeper unless he addresses the Iraq War in practical terms, outside of his Utopian Box of Wishes and Boastsâ¢.
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But only if France does the grunt work first. If France goes wobbly then he would go to the UN and demand action, failing action by the UN, he would turn to unnamed, european allies (Turkey) for a toughly worded ultimatum. Failing the toughly worded ultimatum, he would order the National Guard to deploy. Then he'll begin drilling in ANWAR, and the California and Florida coast. He'll propose a draft and more.
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"but would not present a point-by-point exit plan..."
No, no, no. I don't want a freaking exit plan. I want a victory plan.
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Are we sure Edwards and Kerry aren't talking about 'Civilization II' (the computer game)? In this you could literally stop a foreign project in its tracks by 'crushing it' in lawsuits (much like the environmentalists do today).
I think Kerry/Edwards expect to 'crush the terrorists' with lawsuits......
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Kerry is sunk, no matter what he says about Iraq, the RNC will be able to pull out a tape with him saying the complete opposite thing within the past year.
His best bet is to stay quiet and let the MSM do the leg work for him. Oh wait, that didn't work out so well either did it?
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OK I think I see the Dim party's strategy here. Let's see Bush is evil stupid and eats babies for lunch and Kerry will point out something to the effect coulda, woulda and shoulda done this or that. Vote for me etc etc etc yawn....
My only hope is Tarayza keeps spouting off since she is so entertaining to hear.
I think the Dims have finally got it down to an art now.
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I'm not pissed...everybody spies. I'd be angry if we didn't spy, and quizzical if nobody spied on us. The only problem with the US is it's so amazingly easy to spy here.
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Ah, my dear gromky. What you see on the surface is but an enormous maskirovka operation. The real stuff is hidden underground in Haliburton's vast subterranean complexes. Where do you think Cheney goes when he is not out driving bulldozers?
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I have a feeling, Seafarious, that it is chainey incognito, and the Oil for Spies program (/mucky)
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Water is wet, sheit stinks, etc.
The real news is that D.C. is just a decoy, Bush keeps all the important stuff in the Kinko's document scanner in Crawford.
More than 40 countries with peaceful nuclear programs could retool them to make weapons, the head of the U.N. atomic watchdog agency said Monday amid new U.S and European demands that Iran give up technology capable of producing such arms. Mohamed ElBaradei, director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, suggested in a keynote address to the IAEA general conference that it was time to tighten world policing of nuclear activities and to stop relying on information volunteered by countries.
"It's a regular Play-Doh Fun Factory out there."
Beyond the declared nuclear arms-holding countries, "some estimates indicate that 40 countries or more now have the know-how to produce nuclear weapons," ElBaradei said. "We are relying primarily on the continued good intentions of these countries, intentions, which ... could ... be subject to rapid change."
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Well, looks like the NNPT was a stunning success.
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Shoulkd anyone really be suprised about this. with the spread of Nuclear technology around the world in the guise of elecrical generating stations it makes the production of enriched materials that much easier. Add in the increasing sophistication of the machining and metal working capabilities of many countries plus the computer revolution the number of declared nuclear armed counrties may not grow but the closet nuclear powers may grow explosively in the next ten years.
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All eyes on the Former Soviet Union candystore. Russia is Pakistan North. Putin must succeed in restoring effectiveness, coherence and integrity (in the broadest sense of the word) to the Russian state.
Syrian forces in Lebanon will start redeploying towards the Syrian border Tuesday, official sources in Damascus told UPI. "This is official," said Imad Mustapha, Syria's ambassador to Washington, speaking from the Syrian capital. "Tuesday morning there will be a major redeployment of Syrian forces in Lebanon," he said by phone, adding this came about as a result of "having greater confidence in the situation."
"This move should please all parties," said Mustapha. Asked how many troops were involved in the redeployment and to what positions the troops would move, Mustapha said, "It is too early to tell." The Syrian official said the move is evidence Syria is trying to cooperate with the United States. Earlier it was announced Syrian and U.S. forces would partake in joint patrols along to Iraqi-Syrian border to prevent insurgents infiltrating into Iraq. Mustapha confirmed the deal, saying it came about after a visit to Damascus by American officials.
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Getting them a little closer to home in case someone comes calling, Baby Assad?
U.S.-Syria joint patrols are a great idea, by the way - we patrol and the Syrians end up in the joint. :-p
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Sounds like somebody took Assad aside and "showed him the instruments"...
DEBKAfile Exclusive Military Report September 20th, 2004 (What action would Kerry take regarding Iran's exportation of dangerous missiles to suicidal terrorists?)
The missile in the photo with this article is the Luna-2 short-range ground-to-ground missile, known to NATO from Soviet times as FROG-7, which Iran has developed as its Zelzal-2/Mushak-200. (SEE LINK FOR PHOTO)
In the hands of Iran's Lebanon-based Revolutionary Guards, it has extended the Iranian-Hizballah's missile range due south to Israel's coastal cities of Haifa, Hadera and Netanya. The missile, its launchers and infrastructure are well-hidden in special storehouses in the port town of Sidon in the care of Revolutionary Guards specialist teams. A Lebanese urban center was chosen for their hiding places to reduce the weapon's vulnerability to an Israeli air strike. With Tehran already issuing operational orders to the Palestinian Hamas fundamentalist terrorist group, it is only a question of time before these missiles are transferred to the Gaza Strip, so bringing southern Israel, Tel Aviv and the cities in between, such as Rehovot, Rishon Lezion and Ashdod, within striking range.
This looming menace finally drove Shin Bet Director Avi Dichter and IDF chiefs this week to openly challenge prime minister Ariel Sharon's plans for the removal of Israeli settlements and military units from the Gaza Strip in the framework of his disengagement blueprint. According to DEBKAfile's military sources, Zelzal-2/Mushak-200 is 8.3 meters long with an estimated range of between 100 and 400 km — effective most probably at 200 km. It is armed with a 600 kg warhead. Iran is known to have developed chemical and biological payloads but not to have located them in Lebanon. On the other hand, intelligence sources estimate that Syria has perfected the right chemical warheads for attachment to the Zelzal missiles deployed in Lebanon and they can be fitted within hours. These weapons may be delivered through the Palestinian gunrunning routes from Sinai into the Gaza Strip whenever the rulers of Iran and Syria so decide.
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Hassan Tahsin
The objectives pursued by the UN Security Council seem to have changed. Instead of working to solve international conflicts through peaceful means and safeguard world peace and security, the Council is now threatening UN member countries with invasion, occupation or at least sanctions. It is all done in compliance with orders from the big powers who are only interested in pursuing their own interests.
Our region has seen a few examples in recent weeks. Sudan was threatened with military intervention and toppling of its government. Then came Lebanon, which too was threatened with sanctions for no reason other than that of exercising its right as a sovereign nation to amend its constitution with the approval of its Parliament. Next was Syria, which was also threatened with military intervention and sanctions if it did not withdraw its forces from Lebanon. What was forgotten was that the forces were there at the request of the Lebanese government and Parliament.
Everyone in the Arab world is now asking if there is going to be a war and when. All indications are that Israel, led by a warmonger like Ariel Sharon, is finding the time ripe to launch a strike against those Arab countries that oppose its terrorism against Palestinians. It would exploit the fear of terrorism currently gripping the world and America's hostility for Arab and Muslim countries to launch its war.
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Well, yeah.
And it's taking way too damn long.
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"Saddam Hussein was hated in the Arab world..."
Oh, really? I suspect if you look back a year, you will find a lot of support for him from people like Mr. Tahsin. It's only after he was defeated and humiliated that these people turned on him. I predict that if we liberate Syria, a year later, Boy Assad would be "hated," too.
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The path to peace would be assassination of Assad and any of his successor(s) who doesn't: withdraw all Syrian soldiers from Lebanon, capture and deliver Paleo-terrorists to Israel, seal the border with Iraq, and follow Lybia's steps in dismantling all WMD programmes.
If the Syrians don't want freedom for themselves, or keep electing and harbouring terrorist enablers, the Axis of Good should teach them an assassination lesson -- until they learn to respect our freedom. But I believe the Syrian people would want the kind of freedom and prosperity the Iraqi people are building right now.
Deep divisions within the Bush administration are hampering U.S. efforts to defuse the growing nuclear weapons threat posed by Iran, a cross-section of Middle East specialists say. The differences — between those advocating a tough, confrontational approach and those convinced that engagement on a variety of issues is the best way to stop Tehran's quest for a nuclear weapon — are so strong that nearly three years after President Bush declared Iran part of an "axis of evil" threatening the free world, his administration still has no widely accepted approach to the problem.
The search for common ground has been complicated by a variety of factors, including the sharply opposing views among America's closest allies and the stakes involved. Arms control specialists and regional analysts argue that a nuclear-armed Iran could endanger Israel's existence, touch off a regional arms race in an already unstable Middle East and — because of Iran's medium- and long-range missile technology acquired from North Korea — very quickly pose direct threats to Europe and the United States.
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This is one of Bushs' great failings in my eyes. He should be out there making a damning case for sanctions, war, Mullah assassinations or whatever.
I'm hoping after the elections that will change.
Lets not try and fool ourselves by taking this to the UN, or trying to get the EU on board, they will never go for it, and the end result will be the same anyway.
A nuclear armed death cult state is unacceptable.
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come on JM. Articles that start with (cue the minor chords) "Deep divisions within the Bush administration are hampering U.S. efforts to defuse the growing nuclear weapons threat posed by Iran, a cross-section of Middle East specialists say." ... are almost as poorly written and as obvious as the crap written by the Norkors.
I didn't need to click the link to guess that the article would be the likes of LATIMES. If you are taking stock in this, I suggest you sell.
If you still believe - please send me 19.95, and I'll cure your baldness, impotence, weight problems and sell you some ocean front property - sucker.
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You can bet your knickers that the US is or has plans in place to deal with Iran. We cannot let events go merrily along toward a Nuke. The problem with us on the sidelines is that the REAL INTEL on what is happening will not be divulged. So all this stuff that we see on the news and elsewhere is kinda window dressing and cow manure.
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By Martin Chulov, Tel Aviv
September 20th, 2004 AL-QA'IDA'S new torchbearers are on the march. The next generation of Islamist leaders is more determined, more ruthless and far more dangerous than its predecessors. And the world is just getting to know them.
The chilling prophecy was delivered last week by a panel of the world's leading counter-terrorist experts, who have, since the events of 9/11, watched al-Qa'ida shift like sand dunes in a desert storm. "What they have in store for us is probably more than any of us could bear," one security official told a closed session of the Terrorism's Global Impact summit in Tel Aviv. The al-Qa'ida brand now extends far beyond its ubiquitous leader Osama bin Laden. The five men who carry on his ideology feel emboldened enough to make revolutionary calls of their own.
First among them is Ayman el Zawahiri, bin Laden's deputy and doctor, and the man who has for the past two years called most of al-Qa'ida's operational shots. Zawahiri has taken up the slack left by the arrest of a swath of mid-level organisers, in particular the group's operational chief Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was nabbed in Pakistan 18 months ago. It was Zawahiri's face that the world saw on television screens last week, days before the third anniversary of 9/11. And, providing he eludes capture, it will be Zawahiri we will continue to witness publicly trumpeting the aftermath of future strikes.
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It's the article so nice, you have to read it twice!
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Sorry, but the "front" described herein is a problem mainly for the peoples of the middle east, not the United States. This article is suggesting only that the hornets have been diverted from Afghanistan and Chechnya toward Iraq and Saudi.
Of course Iran is a major problem for the US, but Zarqawi and the other little jihadists are not. The crucial decisions to be made are not those by the US-- we could leave Iraq within a year (or withdraw our troops into a pro-US Kurdish Republic) if we wished and not be the worse off for it-- but by the fence-straddlers, such as Russia, the House of Saud, and Turkey and India. The goal is to get those nations' leaders firmly on our side and to have them step up in combatting the fire in their backyard. It's largely their problem, not ours.
AL-QA'IDA'S new torchbearers are on the march. The next generation of Islamist leaders is more determined, more ruthless and far more dangerous than its predecessors. And the world is just getting to know them. The chilling prophecy was delivered last week by a panel of the world's leading counter-terrorist experts, who have, since the events of 9/11, watched al-Qa'ida shift like sand dunes in a desert storm. "What they have in store for us is probably more than any of us could bear," one security official told a closed session of the Terrorism's Global Impact summit in Tel Aviv.
A Libyan hunted by Pakistan because of his senior role in the al Qa'eda terrorist network has taken charge of its sleeper cells in Britain and the United States, Pakistani intelligence officials believe. Abu Faraj al Libbi, said to have taken over as third in command of al Qa'eda when his mentor, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, was captured last year, has sent coded messages to "several" Islamic militants in Britain over the past 10 months, according to Pakistani officials. Security officers who have interrogated recently captured militants say that Abu Faraj, who is now believed to be al Qa'eda's top operational chief, masterminded and financed assassination attempts against President Pervez Musharraf, the country's military ruler, last December.
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Tap tap tap - nope, nothing there.
Anyone that is of the opinion that the girls can't be violent has never seen two women engaged in a barfight. Experienced bouncers will let them punch (scratch, kick, bite, pull hair) themselves out before wading in. If you don't they'll gang up on you - beat your a**, and resume the catfight.
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Happened to me once at a bar in Texas. I tried to break the two ladies up, but they promptly beat me down and sent me back from whence I came. Will never do it again.
By Syed Saleem Shahzad
Afghanistan has a distinguished culture and social and political order in which one of the most prominent features is that whoever, from Mughal rulers to former king Zahir Shah, leaves the country for exile, has never been able to regain his writ. Legendary Afghan resistance leader in the jihad against the Soviets in the 1980s, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, is no exception.
Hek? The most evil man in the entire world?
Those who know the mujahideen commander closely affirm that the firebrand Hekmatyar of the mid-1970s at Kabul University is no different from the Hekmatyar of today. In one sense this is true - he still vehemently believes in armed struggle against foreign forces in the country, and he is still intimately involved in political wheeling and dealing, in cahoots with Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), just like in the mid-1970s.
Luckily for all concerned except him, Hek's much better at wheeling and dealing than he is at actual military leadership...
However, his many years in exile in Iran - he left the country as prime minister when the Taliban came to power in 1996 - seriously undermined his command structure in Afghanistan, and except for carrying out a few sporadic attacks against US forces, his role at present in the resistance is minimal.
A few rockets here, an occasional grenade there...
Ugandan helicopter gunships and ground troops attacked a rebel hideout in southern Sudan, killing at least 25 insurgents and capturing seven others, an army spokesman said Sunday. The Ugandan army suffered no casualties in the attack late Saturday on Lord's Resistance Army rebels hiding in a forested valley, 90 miles north of the Ugandan border, Lt. Paddy Ankunda said. "It was a fierce battle. We basically used aerial power to bomb their positions," Ankunda said by telephone from Gulu, 225 miles north of the Ugandan capital, Kampala. "The ground forces then closed in to check the area to see how many rebels had been killed." The shadowy Lords Resistance Army, fighting an 18-year rebellion, claims to be trying to overthrow Uganda President Yoweri Museveni, but the force mostly attacks civilians to steal food and abduct children for use as fighters, laborers or sex slaves.
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Shades of Saddam National Congress Party says Mathal al-Alawasi expressed views that were not in line with party platform. Maariv News Service
A day after delivering a speech at the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya, Mathal al-Alawasi, a member of the Iraqi National Congress Party, was fired from his position in the party. The party convened late Monday to discuss al-Alawasi's speech. It was decided to dismiss him because he had expressed views that did not represent the party's political platform. According to his fellow party members, they had only heard of his visit to Israel through media reports. Al-Alawasi told NRG Maariv on Monday, "Of course I am concerned about coming to Israel and taking part in an official convention. I am aware of the risk, but I am here for the sake of the Iraqi people and I view it as a divine objective".
The former Iraqi opposition figure explained that the reason behind his arrival in Israel is that it is a vital component in the Middle East. "I view Israel as one of the elements that has a positive influence, of those who want peace and quiet in the region". Al-Alawasi stressed that Iraq is not asking Israel for military assistance. However, he added, there are many subjects in which both countries could cooperate. Among other messages, al-Alawasi asks to tell Israelis that "the Iraqi people believe in peace and democracy and longs for them". Al-Alawasi is a member of the London-based National Congress Party, which was the largest opposition party to Saddam's rule. The party supported the US invasion of Iraq and even assisted its forces during their preparation.
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not like saddam, whod have someone killed for that.
INC has had many folks who are relatively pro-Israel - its no coincidence this guy was INC. But theyre trying to win votes in the Shia south, and get some backing from Sistani, and this is contrary to their political strategy. Firing this guy was just politics.
Deposed Iraqi President Saddam Hussein is depressed and has begged the Iraqi government for mercy, Iraq's Prime Minister Iyad Allawi said in an interview published on Monday. "He is distraught and depressed," Allawi said of Saddam, the man who was Iraq's president for 24 years and is awaiting trial for war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide. "Saddam and his colleagues are not the giants that the media sometimes talks about," Allawi said in an interview with the pan Arab al-Hayat newspaper. "Saddam sent us an oral message in which he begged for mercy. He said that they were working in the public interest and did not mean any harm."
The portrait painted by Allawi differed sharply from that in a New York Times account published over the weekend, based on interviews with U.S. and Iraqi officials who have visited the former dictator in his air-conditioned 10-by-13-foot cell on the grounds of one of his former palaces. The newspaper said that according to its sources, Saddam has refused to acknowledge wrongdoing or show remorse for the people who were killed during his 24-year rule, whom he labels as traitors. At every encounter, the officials told the Times, Saddam insists he is still the constitutionally elected president of Iraq.
A legend now only in his own mind.
In his interview with the al-Hayat newspaper, Allawi also said he has survived four assassination attempts since his interim government came to power in June, the last just five days ago when his guards became suspicious of a car outside Baghdad's Green Zone compound housing the government and the U.S. and other embassies. The car then blew up and a battle between gunmen and his guards ensued. Two non-Iraqi Arabs were arrested, he said. Allawi would not give their nationality, but said they belonged to Islamist militant groups.
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I got your mercy right here, Soddom.
I'll be glad to personally administer it, too.
You do know how merciful women are, don't you?
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I give it two days before the Red Thingy Cross whines about this and demands humane treatment for a man who doesn't deserve it.
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Allawi said what he called Iranian interference in some Iraqi affairs did not mean Iranâs government was involved. âRather it comes from some circles that support particular religious tendencies,â
That would be the government, such as it is, of Iran.
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That picture of the Prez in his cell is what's makin' him flip out.
There is some film documentation of his crimes, right? Every frame of footage in which he is seen begging the international community for mercy needs to be countered with footage documenting his ordering the torture and killing of Iraqis who committed no crimes. That would be only fair.
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I think they need to set up a lucite cell in one of Saddam's palaces and charge admission for his former subjects to watch him go at his day to day routine. Remember the ending scene from Bertolucci's "The Last Emperor" where the former Chinese emperor lived out his days as a gardener in Beijing? Something like that might be fitting for Saddam.
Improved Kevlar body armor has resulted in a distinctly new pattern of combat injuries. The majority of injuries now occur in unprotected areas of the body, including the head and neck regions. These are the findings by military surgeons who conducted a 14-month review of wounded military personnel from Iraq and Afghanistan brought to Landstuhl, Germany who required treatment from an ear, nose, and throat specialist/head and neck surgeon... The solution for neck injuries might be a return to the use of the gorget, used in medieval and rennaisance times.
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Anonymoose: The solution for neck injuries might be a return to the use of the gorget, used in medieval and rennaisance times.
The problem is that soldiers need to lie prone when firing. I suspect they will need to design a kevlar-lined flexible gorget so it does not impede the wearer's ability to fight.
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Not to sound like a SCI-FI nut... errr nevermind.
Can full hard plate body armor with weapon mounts be far off? think "Iron Man" comic or Robotech (minus the nifty transformer angle.)
The Land Warrior and Objective Force Warrior(?) programs are already producing some cool prototype equipment.
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Improved Kevlar body armor has resulted in a distinctly new pattern of combat injuries.
Uh, WTF?, over. Does anyone else see a problem with this logic? The armor hasn't resulted in head/neck injuries. They have prevented injuries to the torso. The absence of torso injuries is not the cause of head/neck injuries. It's not like the body armor is deflecting shrapnel upwards, is it!? Perhaps our soldiers are experimenting with reactive armor like on tanks. /sarcasm
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There are bullet-proof vests that a lot of our folks wear. Bullets no longer geT to the abdominal cavity, but a helmet cannot protect everything....
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Can full hard plate body armor with weapon mounts be far off?
They're already working on full-body armor. Don't know where to find it, but I discinctly remember it because of the armors sensors, which would tighten the suit around a wound to stop the bleeding.
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Lookie here! I found a right foot. We can have a burial. Oh joyous day!
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Oops my bad. That's a foot of a mannequin from the sandal store next to the bombed-out car. Let's keep looking...
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mhw - Correct! Some Yassinizations would certainly clear the air. When the find a Yassinized site with a charred prosthetic leg, we know we got Zarkawi.
After ordering British forces to keep a low profile for weeks, is Blair readying the nation for an increase in casualties in Southern Iraq? A more proactive approach to the Spud Thugs?
British troops are back at war in Iraq at the centre of a new battle against global terrorism, Tony Blair said yesterday. The first conflict to remove Saddam Hussein, and the so far non-existent weapons of mass destruction, had developed into a struggle against foreign insurgents and remnants of the former regime, the Prime Minister added. Don't forget Basra's crop of Tater Tots, Tony.
Sixteen months after President George W Bush declared that combat operations were over, and after a week which has claimed 300 lives, Mr Blair conceded for the first time that a full-scale "new Iraqi conflict" was under way. He said the country had become the "crucible" in which the future of the battle against global terrorism would be determined. Mr Blair's admission followed the disclosure by The Telegraph on Saturday that he had been warned a year before the American-led invasion that post-war Iraq would cause major problems, and that no one had a clear idea of what would happen. The previously secret documents had said a stable post-war government would be impossible without keeping large numbers of troops there for "many years". I don't recall anyone in authority claiming the post-war situation would be less challenging than the war itself. Hardly 'news'.
Mr Blair, beside Iyad Allawi, the interim prime minister of Iraq, at 10 Downing Street, vowed to see through the struggle and defeat the terrorists. He said Britain would not "desert" the Iraq people. He refused to put a timescale on how long British troops would be in Iraq, but denied suggestions that it could be for 10 or 20 years. Mr Blair denied that coalition and Iraqi forces were losing the war against terrorism, though he accepted the extremists had the capability to kill innocent people. Another blatantly obvious truth portrayed as an admission as failure. Who ever has been able to stamp out murder? If people are determined to murder other people, it tends to be hard to stop them before they've done it. Especially if there are other people helping and hiding them. Continued on Page 49
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I remember before the war reading a number of bleak worst-case scenarios, such as the 10,000 US casualties that would occur in taking Baghdad. I also remember people talking about another Lebanon. So the idea that these "secret documents" are a revelation is just silly.
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Partition the country-- de facto, through rolling elections (ASAP in Kurd. and south, and later if ever in sunni triangle), and then de jure, once the Kurds have attained a pluarlity in the national assembly. Then move all coalition troops into long-term bases in the pro-US sovereign Republic of Kurdistan.
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first, the kurds wont win a plurality, even if their is no voting in Sunni Arab areas - the Shiites outnumber them.
Second a Kurdish state would be seen as a blow against the arab world, and would hurt the US position in the arab world, if it had US support. third the Turks wouldnt support it. It would be landlocked between a hostile Turkey and a hostile (Shia dominated) rump Iraq. Only option would be alliance with Iran, not conducive to US bases.
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If enough Sunnis don't vote, the Kurds' hand will be one of the strongest in the new assembly.
Also, Pan-Arabism is dead. Better a muslim world split three ways-- sunni, kurd and iranian-iraqi shi'a-- and fighting among themselves than fighting against us. Divide and distract.
Finally, Turkey will not dare screw with the Kurds if they have a garrison of 100,000+ US troops forward deployed in Kurdistan AND if the US drops support for Turkish entry into the EU. Turkey already is tilting toward Iran, as are India and Russia. If the only way to signal that such support will not be tolerated by the US is to have a sizable number of troops on Iran's border in secure bases, then Kurdistan is the logical choice for such a deployment.
After 15-year long sect-based jihad, the people have become more aware about their sects and are trying to exclude others from the social and religious life. They are fighting over sectarian issues such as how to say one's prayers. According to Kashmiri fighters in Azad Kashmir who keep going and coming to the Valley of Kashmir, most of such conflicts are between the nascent Ahle Hadith [Salafi] community and the majority Brelvi Muslim population. The Muslims in Jammu and Kashmir have traditionally been Brelvi. However, the Ahle Hadith community has made inroads in the Kashmiri society after the Arabs started investing in religious causes all over the world in the late 1970s. Most of their investment went into building mosques. However, they never stopped anybody from saying his prayers in these mosques. After a 15-year long jihad, the Ahle Hadith community has relatively grown bigger and become assertive.
"Assertive" in Islamist terminology means they'll blow you up if you don't see things their way...
At many places they are already stopping people from saying their prayers in non-Ahle Hadith way. At other places they are talking about dividing the mosques into Brelvi and Ahle Hadith sections. According to reports in the press, three Lashkar-i-Taiba fighters were killed by the Hizbul Mujahideen fighters. Consequently, the Lashkar-i-Taiba retaliated and Hizbul Mujahideen commander Tariq Aziz was killed in a gunbattle in the village of Ratnipura earlier this month. Some of the Kashmiri commanders believe that sectarian feelings are playing an important role in the current infighting.
Inother words, they can't get along with anyone, to include other hard boyz...
The Kashmiri fighter groups fought among themselves in the early 1990s and lost hundreds of men. Some of them were the best fighters. However, the infighting in the early 1990s was a move to dominate the guerrilla war in Indian Jammu and Kashmir. Sectarianism did not play any role in that. Some fighter commanders believe the infighting may get intense because of the sectarian feelings. However, nobody appears to be interested in curbing the monster of sectarianism in Jammu and Kashmir.
No more than they're interested in curbing it in Pakland proper...
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One day I hope for a headline: Secretarianism on Rise in Kashmir
The longing for a great red horse has united Hindu and Moslem in this often conflicted ground....
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Why stop a good thing. This sectarianism has helped us get rid of a lot of Hard boyz. I say bring it on let them fight each other. The Author neglects to mention that Ahl E Hadith are WAHABI. The terrorist cult exported by Saudi Arabia every where.
In the hidden ravines and forbidding, dust-colored mountains of a remote border region near Afghanistan, about 25,000 Pakistani troops are battling hundreds of well-armed foreign militants and Pakistani tribesmen in an increasingly violent confrontation that is imposing growing costs on civilians and prompting warnings of wider unrest. The government has stepped up the intensity of its attacks in the tribal zone of South Waziristan after a series of failed attempts this year to negotiate the surrender of the foreigners, identified by U.S. and Pakistani officials as being allied with al Qaeda, most of them from Chechnya and Uzbekistan. The ethnic Pashtun population of the region has traditionally paid little heed to dictates from Islamabad.
On Sept. 9, for example, an airstrike and subsequent assault by helicopter gunships on a fortified compound in the Dila Khula district of South Waziristan killed as many as 100 people, including foreign militants and some noncombatants, according to foreign diplomats and reports by Pakistani journalists based in the region.
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May the deity of your choice bless the Pakistanis for this. Taking the fight to where the terrorists live and breed is one of the best things we can do in the WoT.
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The most important passage in the whole article
"In every case, we made our own independent confirmation, and each time, the precision of the American information shocked us." That means we have the Pakistanis full attention and know when they are pissing on our leg a saying it's raining. It also means that we have very good intel going for us in that region even if the MSM wants to say "quagmire." If the Pakistanis are telling the truth about 50% of the terrorists of Chechen and Uzbeki origins having be sent to hell; where are the Arab/Saudi jihadi and who is hiding them? Do we know?
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Most of the Arabs are probably long gone. It is the Chechens and Uzbeks who can't return home, whereas Arabs have 20 Arabic speaking countries to choose from.
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Well close. I bet many of those Arabs are now in Iraq via Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia. Some are Arabs certainly are still in Pakistan. Some very important ones. Hiding out in large urban centers where they can blend better and sympathetic officals, cops and military can help them evade detection and there inevitable death.
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So instead of being in the nice, clean, comfortable American prison, those important Arabs are hiding in hot, dirty, noisy Pakistani safehouses, eating that wonderfully spicey food that tastes nothing like Mama's baba ghanoush, afraid to make phone calls or otherwise call attention to themselves, with only a couple of young Pakistani wives to keep them company, praying that not even one of their protectors have been turned? Good!
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09/20/2004 12:52 Comments ||
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A significant number of Chechen, Tajik and Uzbeks that fought during the Soviet war in Afghanistan married locals in the Parchanar Salient, and other Frontier Independent Territories (FIT) along the border. In many cases these were Soviet army of Chechen and others who were captured and given a choice join the mujihadeen or die. Until recently, their family links in the FIT have sheltered them...no more. Allan be praised!
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If they we legit peaceful types all they had to do was register. The offer was made. They didn't comply with the rules layed down by the government. Lay down your arms, renounce violence and register.
Now quite a few be dead.
Abu Musab Zarqawi, the most-wanted terrorist in Iraq, has been increasingly successful at recruiting foreign suicide bombers into the country, who are quickly assigned a bomb-ladened vehicle to kill coalition members and civilians, according to senior military officials. The officials also said a profitable market for kidnapped Westerners has emerged, adding to the violence in Iraq, as criminal gangs snatch hostages and then market them like a commodity to various Islamic jihadist groups.
Despite months of fighting an insurgency that erupted last fall, military leaders said the number of attacks in September show an increase, compared with early August, but they do not have a good enough handle on the enemy to say whether it is weaker or stronger than a year ago. Zarqawi's murderous ways were underscored again last week when a suicide bomber parked a car in a busy Iraqi market and pushed the ignition switch. The massive explosion killed 47 Iraqis, the worst car bombing in Baghdad since March. "It's clear this is Zarqawi doing these types of things to the Iraqi people," said Rear Adm. Gregory Slavonic, a spokesman for the U.S. command in Iraq. "Zarqawi is doing the car bombings. I think he is getting more people to drive these cars who believe in his cause, and the more people you can get who believe in the cause that he has espoused to them, you can get the frequency up."
Suicide bombers have another advantage. When they blow themselves up, they leave no potential of capturing a Zarqawi operative who could provide information on the terrorist's organization and its links to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda terror network. "It's hard to interrogate drivers, because they're not usually around to talk," Adm. Slavonic said. Without many captives, U.S. officials have limited knowledge of Zarqawi's cells. He relies on foreign jihadists to heed his call to come to Iraq and enlist as suicide bombers. In some cases, he can place them in a car and give them a target within days of their arrival. The exact size of his organization is unknown, but is believed to number several hundred. A Pentagon official said that at one point this summer, commanders estimated there were about 2,000 anti-coalition operatives inside Iraq representing various terror networks or criminal enterprises.
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â¦He relies on foreign journalists jihadistsâ¦
â¦"They are non-Iraqis,"⦠Yes they are Saudis, Syrians and Iranians and Iraq is going to have a long memory. I think the payback could be quite painful and direct when it comes in downtown Damiscus or Terhan.
"Adm. Slavonic and other officials are reluctant to say if the insurgency is any weaker today than a year ago." Of course the "Times" has to end it with a quagmire® statement.
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Well of course Zarqawi's going to have success at bringing in foreign boomers. Those foreigners under his sway have little to lose, whereas even the current situation is an improvement over the previous dictatorship, something the typical Iraqi is probably quite aware of.
Only those who will be running the show (or assume they will) in any power grab would be foolish enough to trade a one-man dictatorship for a theocratic one.
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Where they getting all these zealot. Anyone have a tally on the number of suicide bombers in Iraq so far? It must have surpassed the number in the entire Palestinian intifada. Will they ever run out, or is it an endless stream?
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Almost 30 years ago, I visited Ariel Sharon at his ranch, an isolated spread not far from the Gaza Strip. There were Arab workers all over the place. "Aren't you worried about your safety?" I asked. Sharon gave me a look I've never forgotten. Worried? He was a warrior in his prime, the toughest Israeli of his generation. Who could hurt him? Sharon is an old man now, surrounded by a thick cordon of security. Hamas terrorists in Gaza routinely threaten him, but he's still not afraid of Arabs. It's his own countrymen who want to kill him. The irony is obvious to Sharon himself. "I've been defending the Jews all my life," he said in July. "Now, I have to be protected from the Jews."
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Zev Chafets: The hillboys are Al Qaeda in yarmulkes, and, like Al Qaeda, they are armed - mostly with weapons stolen from Israeli Army units that have been sent to protect them over the years.
Al Qaeda has killed thousands of American civilians. I don't think folks who don't like Sharon are like al Qaeda, even if they want to kill him. That was just such a nutty statement, I don't know what to make of it. I guess Chafetz's view is that anyone who's religious is the moral equivalent of al Qaeda. My bet is that he probably thinks GWB is like al Qaeda.
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I guess Chafetz's view is that anyone who's religious is the moral equivalent of al Qaeda
Ive read chafetz for some time, and hes no dove. He thinks folks who are not only religious, but fanatical, and prepared to commit acts of terrorism, are like AQ. Now obviously killing an elected leader of a democracy is not in the same class as killing babies, but some of us recall a time when such acts WERE called terrorism.
Which, BTW, is why some of us have difficulty with the leftie notion that Saddam never commited acts of terror against the US, when he DID attempt to kill George H. W. Bush.
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