RIYADH: Saudi Arabia's top religious cleric warned Saudis on Thursday against going to neighbouring Iraq to fight what he called a ruinous jihad against US-led forces. Responding to a call to jihad (holy war) by 26 Saudi preachers on Sunday, Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz bin Abdullah al-Sheikh said they were wrong to incite young men to go and fight in Iraq. "There is no flag to fight under and no basis to stand on and going there would be the road to ruin," the mufti told Okaz newspaper.
"And you could die, too!" he added.
Iraqi authorities said last month they had captured 24 suspected Saudi militants, and diplomats say many more may have slipped across the border to fight.
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Simple, cut off their hands, and send them home!
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That's right - send the hands home. The handless Jihadis - feed them to hungry pigs - review the one scene in the movie "Snatch" for thumbnail planning factors.
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Hmm.. maybe this cleric gets it. This army ain't the soviet army, this ain't Afganistan, this force ain't here to control and conquer so the population isn't keen to rebel, and this army is damn lethal to your young dumb men.
Iraq can learn from the recent history of El Salvador, a country wracked by civil war that has developed into a stable democracy and close US ally, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said on Thursday. Rumsfeld, speaking at the US Embassy here, thanked the Salvadorans for supplying troops for US operations in Iraq. El Salvador, with about 370 soldiers in the only other country in the Western Hemisphere that currently has troops there. " We are deeply in your debt," Rumsfeld said during a Veterans Day ceremony honoring Salvadoran soldiers and US. He held up El Salvador as " a nation that understands well the human struggle for liberty and democracy."
" The fight is not easy. It never is. It requires patience. And it has costs," Rumsfeld said before laying a wreath on a monument remembering US citizens, including 20 US military personnel, who were killed in the civil war. Salvadoran troops have fought well in Iraq, US military officials say. In one case, soldiers fought off Iraqi insurgents with knives after running out of ammunition. The only Salvadoran to be killed in Iraq died during that battle. At home, though, the Salvadoran government has faced protests for sending troops to the conflict. On Friday, Rumsfeld was set to award the bronze star to six Salvadoran soldiers who, on March 5, defended a convoy during an ambush and are credited with saving the lives of six Coalition Provisional Authority personnel. Their leader, 1st Sgt. Fredy Castro Urbina, was a veteran of the civil war.
Speaking with reporters on the flight to El Salvador, Rumsfeld said hundreds of insurgent fighters had been killed in the fight for Fallujah, but offered no prediction on when the city would be secured. He also acknowledged that some insurgents escaped but predicted that Fallujah would be eliminated as a " safe haven for extremists, former regime elements and terrorists." US troops were " well along in that task and they will finish it successfully," he said.
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And, of course, the Left fought us every step of the way there, too.
No enemy too small, no enemy too large, to back against AmeriKKKa.
North Korea has said an early resumption of six-party talks on its nuclear arms programme will be difficult, and it wants to see how US President George W. Bush deals with Pyongyang following his re-election, Japanese and Chinese officials said on Thursday. Japan's top government spokesman said North Korean officials told their Japanese counterparts that Pyongyang was not keen to resume the multilateral forum anytime soon. "They said they were not in an environment where they could restart six-party talks in early stages," Chief Cabinet Secretary Hiroyuki Hosoda told a news conference. "We understand North Korea is not positive (on restarting the talks soon)."
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North Korea ... wants to see how US President George W. Bush deals with Pyongyang following his re-election ....
May I be the first to suggest the Clinton ApproachTM?
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Where did this man go to school? Bush now has won the election, with a clear majority of both the popular and electoral vote. Do you really think he's going to change?
Why do dumb people get to be dictators?
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The more easily maipulated by those who put them in power, customarily. Such arrangements seldom span generations, but this one did. And, in his case, it is, indeed, hereditary - Daddy was a Soviet Puppet & Tool carefully groomed and placed in power. I think I can see strings on SunnyBoy in the picture, but his are held by China, heh.
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Actually, .com, from the reports on Kimmi that I have read he is an extremely dangerous and unstable individual. No one controls him, least of all China. This is why China has been willing to make deals with the US on the six-way talks.
The biggest problem is that . . . kimmi apparently thinks he is an American movie producer. You'd think that this would make him amenable to out demands . . . but apparently he is just as hostile to reality as a Real American Movie Producer (TM).
Be Interesting to see what happens here.
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Isn't his dead father still the official leader of N. Korea? If so how do you talk with a dead guy without Haley Joel?
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I wonder if Lil Kim has seen Team America, World Police. He just gets ripped in that film, which is one of the best movies I have seen this year BTW.
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"Team America: World Police" is OUTSTANDING and one of the funniest things I've ever watched. Practically EVERY Hollywood Liberal gets SCORCHED in that film.
Go see it if you haven't already! I've been twice--it was that good!
A Venezuelan man swiped a policeman's gun while handcuffed and opened fire Friday at the foot of the Eiffel Tower, injuring a police officer and two security guards, officials said. The man, who is in his 30s, was taken into custody after the incident, which occurred as he was being questioned for attempting to enter a restricted area of the Paris monument, police officials said.
Restricted area, huh?
The suspect grabbed the policeman's pistol while his hands were cuffed behind his back, the officials said. The officer was shot in the arm, and a security guard suffered a bullet wound to the shoulder. A second security guard was grazed by a bullet.
Grabbed the piece and started blasting.
The man was not further identified, and an investigation was underway.
Maybe just a nut, maybe a crook, maybe really Venezuelan. Time will tell.
Let's not be hasty and jump to conclusions.
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How in the hell do you manage to get shot by a man with his hands handcuffed BEHIND him? I can imagine him gabbing the gun, even firing it, but... you have to be a little bit of an idiot to get shot by him. Don't you?
Europe has not caught up with the US in its response to global terrorism, Nato's secretary general has warned. Europeans had to go as far as Americans in merging external and internal security, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said in New York. A "perception gap" had opened up since the 11 September 2001 attacks, he said. This difference between the US and its European allies was one reason for the strained relations within Nato, the alliance chief added. Mr de Hoop Scheffer told the Council on Foreign Relations in New York that "in Europe, we still have complicated discussions... of how far governments could go in the relationship with their citizens in the fight against terrorism. I think Europe should catch up here, not the United States. " Mr de Hoop Scheffer is a former Dutch foreign minister who backed the Bush administration on the war in Iraq without alienating other European leaders. Asked about Iraq, he said: "When the Iraqi government asks Nato to do more, we'll seriously consider when and if that's possible."
Just keep the Frogs out of the room.
He said he hoped that an alliance training academy for Iraqi forces would be running by the end of the year. Nato is also training Iraqis outside the country. The alliance has been in charge of the international peacekeeping force in Afghanistan since late last year, in its first so-called out-of-area mission. On Afghanistan, Mr de Hoop Scheffer repeated international concern about the revived drug trade. "Poppy fields are growing in large parts of the country, certain warlords are financed from the revenues of the crop and the economy of Afghanistan is dominated by the illegal profits of this growth," he said in an interview with the New York Times newspaper.
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And here is the sum of their problem: "in Europe, we still have complicated discussions..."
The unsaid part-
Unlike those dreadful Americans who go off half cocked and solve problems while there is still talking to do.
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Actually, that's not entirely true. Despite the fact that the French are actively aiding what they quaintly call the anti-US "resistance" in Iraq and elsewhere in the middle east, they are indeed badasses against jihadists on their own soil. The range of freedom that French prosecutors have in detaining, convicting, expelling jihadist suspects makes the Patriot Act look like child's play. Perhaps it's just French cynicism at work, but he French state takes an extremely hard line against terror-- so long as it's within French borders.
The southern German state of Bavaria has banned women state school teachers from wearing Islamic headscarves and other religious insignia in schools. The ruling conservative Christian Social Union (CSU) said on Thursday that the ban, which has already been introduced in four of Germany's 16 federal states, was designed to protect pupils from the influence of "Islamic fundamentalism". "The veil is widely abused by Islamic fundamentalist groups as a political symbol," said Bavaria's culture minister Monika Hohlmeier. The Social Democratic Party (SPD) and Greens, who rule in a coalition on a national level, voted against the ban in the regional parliament and said it was questionable from a legal point of view. Headscarf bans for teachers have already been introduced in the states of Hesse, Lower Saxony, Baden-Wuerttemberg and Saarland. In Hesse the ban applies to all civil servants.
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Should have done it when the French did it. The French would have gotten the majority of the bad press and the message to the "Islamic fundamentalists" would have been stronger.
That is assuming you were going to make this move in the first place. Something I'm not so certain about.
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It couldn't be done earlier. This is the result of a Muslim teacher sueing her school for not allowing the hijab. The highest German court ruled that the school could only ban it if the respective German "land" passed legislation. This is being done now.
Btw note the difference to France: France bans the hijab of pupils, Germany only the hijab of teachers.
In an interview with second lady Lynne Cheney, the "Today Show's" Matt Lauer equated the Islamic radicals in Fallujah terrorizing Iraq with George Washington's Revolutionary War army. Questioning Cheney about her new children's book, "When Washington Crossed the Delaware: A Wintertime Story for Young Patriots," the NBC host asked Cheney, in light of the current offensive on Fallujah, to apply to today the lesson of a "rag-tag group" going up against a powerful, well-equipped army. Lauer was rebuffed by the vice president's wife for equating Washington's troops with the radical Muslim terrorists then clarified his line of questioning. "I'm just saying, but the insurgents believe they're fighting for a cause as well," Lauer explained. "They don't believe any less than we believe..."
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In a similar vein, this month's National Geographic has listed the Boston Tea Party as a terrorist act. Equivalent to the murders of the Israeli athletes in Munich, Timmy's boom in Oklahoma City, the attack on the Twin Towers, well, you get the picture.
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Lauer, like all the college reporters I knew way back when, is a loony left-winger. In general, they learn to hide this aspect of themselves when reporting the news. But every so often, the mask slips.
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Believing in something doesn't justify anything you do. It would neither justify Washington nor Bin Laden.
WHAT you believe in makes the difference. What Washington believed in and fought for led to the Declaration of Independence, maybe the most important manifestation of mankind.
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"Iâm just saying, but the insurgents believe theyâre fighting for a cause as well," Lauer explained. "They donât believe any less than we believe..."
Sheesh, the same might be said for Tim McVeigh, the Manson gang, or the SS Einsatzgruppen. Does Lauer understand what "having a point" actually means?
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I wonder if Matt the Liar would be willing to make the same analogy with right-wing vigilantes and terrorists who decide to take on the might of the LLL media through "direct action"?
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Hey AC, be careful there. If you let the plan slip early . . . er . . . we would NEVER do such a thing. Actually the Loons on DUh have been consistently claiming (at the same time mind you) that they are going to move to Kanada (prob Quebex as it is most French) cause GWB won and that they are going to begin 'armed resistance'. With what exactly are they going to begin 'armed resistance' as they have repeatedly stated they are scared of guns . . . are they going to use tofu to frighten us into surrender?
Let them revolt . . . I need trigger time.
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Carter replied, "Well, one parallel is that the Revolutionary War, more than any other war up until recently, has been the most bloody war we've fought...."Guess he forgot about that little bump in the road called the Civil War.
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Too bad Lynne Cheney could not quote the concluding paragraph of David Hackett Fischer's Washington's Crossing:
"The most remarkable fact about American soldiers and civilians in the New Jersey campaign is that they ... found a way to defeat a formidable enemy, not merely once at Trenton but many times in twelve weeks of continued combat. They reversed the momentum of the war. They improvised a new way of war that grew into an American tradition. And they chose a policy of humanity that aligned the conduct of the war with the values of the Revolution. They set a high example, and we have much to learn from them. Much recent historical writing has served us ill in that respect. In the late twentieth century, too many scholars tried to make the American past into a record of crime and folly. Too many writers have told us we are captives of our darker selves and helpless victims of our history. It isn't so, and never was. The story of Washington's Crossing tells us that Americans in an earlier generation were capable of acting in a higher spirit - and so are we."
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One of the Arab M.E. expert guests on Fox and Friends this morning was heavily rebuffed by Juliet (Huddy?) for making the Arafat/Washington connection, he quickly withdrew that line after she jumped in his ass about it ;) Good for her, she definitely put a smile on my face for setting that moron straight.
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Don't you all remember when George Washington cut off the heads of captured English civilians yelling God is Great? Or when his troops blew up fellow Americans because they weren't providing enough support for his cause?
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The moronic pretty obys and girls of network TV are not worth responding to. These idiots couldn't tell Chomsky from Comrade Tomsky.
Time for the blogosphere to start creating its own radio and streaming video broadcasts. I'll take any of a dozen well-educated, articulate bloggers over Katie and Matt Bubblehead any day
are they going to use tofu to frighten us into surrender?
Have you ever tasted tofu? That would frighten me. ;-p
OTOH, I think my S&W .357 would trump tofu at any distance, so I wouldn't have to let them get close enough for their smell to bother me. :-D
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Oh, yeah - Lauer is an IDIOT.
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If Yasser Arafat is the Father of his country, he's the kind of neglectful father who's only real contact with the kids is to beat them. You read about him in the police blotter from time to time: Man arrested for beating girlfriend's children.
Former US President Jimmy Carter called Yasser Arafat "a powerful human symbol and forceful advocate" who united Palestinians in their pursuit of a homeland. Elsewhere?
"Yasser Arafat's death marks the end of an era and will no doubt be painfully felt by Palestinians throughout the Middle East and elsewhere in the world," Carter said. Which 'world' is Ex-President Carter, dreaming in?
"He was the father of the modern Palestinian nationalist movement. A powerful human symbol and forceful advocate, Palestinians united behind him in their pursuit of a homeland," he said in a statement distributed by his Atlanta, Georgia-based Carter Center. He said that while Arafat provided "indispensable leadership to a revolutionary movement" and played a key role in forging a peace agreement with Israel in 1993, he was excluded from negotiations in recent years. "My hope is that an emerging Palestinian leadership can benefit from Arafat's experiences, be welcomed to the peace process by (Israeli) Prime Minister (Ariel) Sharon and (US) President (George W.) Bush, and be successful in helping to forge a Palestinian state living in harmony with their Israeli neighbors," Carter said.
Both Carter and Arafat are Nobel peace prize laureates. Arafat, who died at a Paris hospital early Thursday, was to be buried at his West Bank headquarters after a military funeral ceremony in Cairo Friday. Carter "will not be attending the funeral," said Jon Moor, a Carter Center spokesman.
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Lord Hawhaw Jimmy Carter always did prefer Arafat to that damned Jew whatsismname, anyway. Carter and Arafat had a clear meeting of minds on the subject of proper Palestine/Israel relations.
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There is no limit to Jimmah's Huzpa.
The small example below makes this clear:
Former US President Jimmy Carter called Ossama Bin Laden (news - web sites) "a powerful human symbol and forceful advocate" who united Islamists in their pursuit of a Khalifa.
"Ossama's death marks the end of an era and will no doubt be painfully felt by Moslems throughout the Middle East and elsewhere in the world," Carter said.
"He was the father of the modern Arab/Moslem nationalist movement. A powerful human symbol and forceful advocate, Moslems united behind him in their pursuit of World Dominance" he said in a statement distributed by his Atlanta, Georgia-based Carter Center.
He said that while Ossama provided "indispensable leadership to a revolutionary movement" and played a key role in forging a balnce of fear with the USA on 9/11, he was excluded from negotiations with the LLL camp and with the Phrence in recent years.
QED
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http://www.nationalreview.com/20may02/nordlinger052002.asp
As (Carterâs biographer, Douglas) Brinkley writes in his book The Unfinished Presidency â about Carter's celebrated post-White House years â "there was no world leader Jimmy Carter was more eager to know than Yasir Arafat." The former president "felt certain affinities with the Palestinian: a tendency toward hyperactivity and a workaholic disposition...."
In their first meeting â held in 1990 â Carter boasted of his sternness toward Israel. For example, he said, "When I bring up the [PLO] charter, you should not be concerned that I am biased. I am much more harsh with the Israelis." Arafat, for his part, complained about the Reagan administration's alleged "betrayals." Rosalynn Carter, who was taking notes for her husband, interjected, "You don't have to convince us!" which, as Brinkley records, "elicited gales of laughter all round." The ex-president "agreed that the Reagan administration was not renowned as promise keepers" (this, to Arafat).
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Chutzpah, EoZ, Chutzpah.
You putz . . . ;-)
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Jame,
I stand rebuked Chutzpa it is
Must be my Yemenite accent :)
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Man, Jimmah, Yasshole must've saw you coming from a mile away!
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In other news - former US President James Buchanan called Jefferson Davis "a powerful human symbol and forceful advocate" who united Southerners in their pursuit of a homeland. The ironies abound. Maybe Jimmuh can plead senility - wottah maroon.
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I personally think Jimmy Carter personifies everything that is currently wrong with the Democratic party.
My GOD IN HEAVEN'S NAME and SAINTS ON BICYCLES!!!!!!!! Arafish was a thug and a brute, a tyrant of the worst order, a charlatan, rapist, murderer and scheming backstabbing camel thief. He is the god father of terrorism, Fatah, the PFLP and the PLO trained the Baader Meinhof gang, the Red Army Faction, the IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah and the rest. Not only that he skimmed off BILLIONS (THAT is with a B) from aid for the Palestinians to line his own little greedy pockets. Think what Suha's allowance would do for Ramallah.
Too bad we can't put the little weasel in a wood chipper and fertilize the Negev with his AIDS ridden little ass.
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"Both Carter and Arafat are Nobel peace prize laureates..." who suffered brain problems in later years.
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Leave out the "human" part and he might have something there.
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I think it is a prerequisite that you have to be a complete fuckwhit in order to receive a Nobel Peace Prize. Carter certainly fits the bill and is, without question, the worst president of the last 100 years. He should be muzzled. Put in a home and muzzled.
WASHINGTON — Donald Rumsfeld is likely to remain at the Pentagon until the spring, despite strong pressure from key White House political advisers for him to leave sooner. According to well-placed Pentagon sources, Vice President Cheney has argued the case for Mr. Rumsfeld to remain as defense secretary until at least the spring, and Mr. Cheney would prefer that Mr. Rumsfeld stayed longer. Well, that's one man with sense.
Karl Rove and other White House advisers, however, have maintained that Mr. Rumsfeld has become a political liability and will undermine possible improvement in relations between Washington and European allies, the sources said. "The White House political shop wants him out now," a senior Defense Department source said of Mr. Rumsfeld. Note to Karl: Bush isn't running for a third term.
Much will depend on what happens with Condoleezza Rice. Administration officials told The New York Sun that Ms. Rice wants to replace Mr. Rumsfeld. If Ms. Rice gets the nod, that will relieve pressure to create an opening for her soon at Foggy Bottom. "She wants to move on and has made it clear that she wants to become the first woman to head the Defense Department," a high-level Pentagon source said of Ms. Rice. The State Department already has been headed by a woman. And we all know how well that turned out.
Details of the behind-the-scenes tussle over who goes and who remains in Mr. Bush's second-term Cabinet are being closely watched by the foreign policy establishment in Washington for clues as to what the president intends to do overseas in the next four years. Clean out out the obstructionist, antiwar Foggy Bottom elite, or surrender to them?
Ms. Rice, if she is appointed to the Pentagon, is likely to give it a very different staff. "Her instincts are not Rumsfeld's," the Annenberg professor at the Institute of World Politics, Michael Waller, said. "At the National Security Council, she kept Clinton holdovers like Richard Clarke and favored Foreign Service career officers." Oops, guess that answers the question.
I can't tell how much of this is preemptive press posturing, but if Rumsfeld leaves before Powell, the policy reunification we were pleased about yesterday could make things unfortunately worse.
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Rumsfeld made a major contribution and served well. But it's time for him to move on. His priorities have already been addressed, and now it's time for more subtle diplomacy. "Pigs get fat; hogs get slaughtered."
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We're about to go to war against Iran, Syria, and NoKorea.
Rumsfeld is the best man as SecDef. Maybe the best ever to serve in that position.
The only talk of change should be to kick Powell out, and give Rice a challenging position where she can prove her value. Maybe she can try to clean up the State Dept. I'm beginning to have doubts about her, especially if she is the one responsible for keeping Clinton's idiots in place up to and after 9/11.
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I don't understand why Rice and Rumsfeld would be at odds. It's not that their solutions to foriegn policy problems are that different, is it? Edification anyone?
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Brilliant as she is, the DoD is a bastion of military organization. And military competency cannot be learned solely from textbooks, unlike most other managerial positions. It is reliant on talent, on experience, on education, on training, on logistics, on organization, on morale, and on planning--often almost mutually exclusive abilities, which are brought together into an effective whole. Those civilian leaders unfamiliar with military organization are relegated to being liasons, treading water while military "mandarins" manage as best they can. But Rumsfeld entered the job with an educated philosophy of change, which is partially completed. To replace him now would either be to renounce that philosophy as a failure, wasting untold billions of dollars; or to almost ensure that it never meets fruition--or is incapable of meeting the goals it was designed to meet.
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That makes sense. I didn't understand from watching each of them over the last 4 years that there would be a great policy void between them, but it's true that there are some jobs where time put in and your hands-on experience is indispensable. Thanks, anonymoose.
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Agreed Moose, but that is also why some within the military who are not too hot with Rummy's reforms may be looking to make like Rice could do better. Let Condi run against DiFi or Gov if the Governator doesn't run for another. Condi could do a lot more to help herself and the country by keeping Caliphornia on the Path Arnie has set and prepping her resume for the big run.
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Rumsfeld's been more successful as SecDef tahn anyone could've imagined...remember the Quagmire(!)⢠of Afghanistan and that Terrible Winter� What about the 100,000 forecast dead in the Iraq invasion? Libya? Iran and Syria and NK remain unfinished business, and a guy like Rumsfeld scares the sh*t out of them. That's recommendation enough for me. Condi can take State apart after Powell resigns
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Condi is letting her ambition get the better of her, probably egged on by Rumsfeld's enemies. Condi is tempermentally suited for State, not DoD. Put Paul Wolfowitz in at NSC, Condi as SecDef when Powell resigns, and bring in somebody from the outside if Rumsfeld decides to go later on. Maybe W. could put a clueful Democrat in DoD as a peace gesture -- maybe Lieberman?
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Where's the president's legendary "strict loyalty to policy" when we need it ... if the Cabinet were reduced but to ONE, I would take Rumsfeld only ...
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Bah. Haven't had enough coffee yet. I mean put Condi in as SecState.
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GWB isn't running for a third term, but Rove is. He's been upfront about wanting to be the Mark Hanna of the 21st century by creating a decades-long realignment in favor of the GOP. It will never stop being political for him. Rest assured, he's well into the process of figuring out which horse to jump aboard for 2008.
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How about Zell Miller to take over Defence should Rumsfeld step down? I agree that Dr. Rice is not likely to be effective as SecDef -- she just doesn't have the background.
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What's this running for a third term crap. Rove is responsible for more than just reelections. He's gotta warn the President when decision X will screw with policy Y and ensure that judge Z will never have a chance.
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Bush should never let go of Rumsfeld. He's turned things around nicely and isn't finished yet. What a total mistake it would be to let him go. We voted for FOUR MORE YEARS OF THE SAME, thank you. Cheney's right. Rumsfeld can be counted on for consistency and smarts.
The political players want Condi instead so they can go back to doing what they please at DoD.
If Rove thinks Hillary is going to run in '08, he may be trying to groom Condi as a presidential candidate. Also a BIG mistake. Two decent Republican men against stupid Hillary and whatever lackey she selects will guarantee the Republicans a win. Think about it. A black woman, who is a terrible public speaker to boot, running against a Clinton would be a disaster. The country just isn't ready.
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Karl Rove and other White House advisers, however, have maintained that Mr. Rumsfeld has become a political liability and will undermine possible improvement in relations between Washington and European allies, the sources said.
Rove wants to chop out one of the most important and instrumental parts of GWB's team on the chance that doing so might result in "possible improvement" in relations with Europe???
Sounds to me like Rove isn't the genius some people make him out to be, because this is a damned stupid idea.
The American Civil Liberties Union said outgoing Attorney General John Ashcroft showed "his clear disdain for the law" in a speech Friday. In a speech to the National Lawyers Meeting of the Federalist Society, Ashcroft warned about "activist" judges who he said were "encroaching" on the president's constitutional powers. The attorney general did not mention specific instances, but the Justice Department is appealing a ruling by a federal judge in Washington this week that says the administration must follow the Geneva Convention in handling terror detainees, unless an impartial tribunal shows that they are not entitled to its protections. Never mind that the Geneva Convention simply does not apply to people (like Terrorists) who do not follow it themselves.
"The nation's top law enforcement officer today expressed his clear disdain for the rule of law," ACLU executive director Anthony Romero said in a statement. "The Bush administration and its attorney general nominee should immediately denounce today's comments by outgoing Attorney General John Ashcroft."
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Clear disdain for law? Not like the ACLU making law up without the consent of the governed!
BTW the Constitution addresses war powers as those of the Executive and Legislative branch. There's nothing in it which says the Judiciary has any say, except of course what the courts claims for itself by fiat.
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..but the Justice Department is appealing a ruling by a federal judge in Washington this week that says the administration must follow the Geneva Convention in handling terror detainees, unless an impartial tribunal shows that they are not entitled to its protections.
Hot diggety! Let's waste MORE money setting up a tribunal to determine something that could be done by any competent lawyer at a fraction of the price!!!
Human rights activists have expressed shock after a prominent Indonesian lawyer's autopsy showed up high levels of arsenic. Munir, who campaigned against abuses under ex-dictator Suharto, died on a flight to the Netherlands in September. His death had been put down to natural causes. But the Indonesian police said on Friday they would now investigate to determine if the 38-year-old was murdered.
CSI - Jakarta is on the case.
Munir was a prominent human rights activist who earned his reputation during the years of the Suharto dictatorship, when he frequently clashed with Indonesia's entrenched interests. He once said that he had "lost count" of the number of death threats he had received.
If the suspicions that Munir was poisoned are confirmed, it would be an unwelcome resurgence of the sort of brutal tactics that many Indonesians hoped had become a thing of the past.
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Iran mullahs sold Iran's oil at $22.85 a barrel last year, the lowest at the time among Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) members, the Management and Planning Organization (MPO) said in a report. Libya set the highest price record among OPEC members with $32.89 (February 2003). The average price of Iran's oil in 2003 was $26.97, which was 14.9 percent higher than the 2002 figures, Iran's Mehr news agency reports. The MPO report added that Iran's crude price set its highest point in February at $29.89 a barrel. Iran's oil price was set at the lowest point in the OPEC table in 2003 other than the months of August and September.
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The top advisor to Iran's supreme leader called on Friday for "resistance" to international pressure over the Islamic republic's nuclear programme, complaining that Tehran was subject to "idiotic and childish" demands. The Europeans "have told us to stop our nuclear programme and in return they will sell us commercial jets and trains", Ali Akbar Nategh Nouri said in a speech carried on state radio ahead of Friday's weekly prayers. "This is an idiotic and childish thing," he said. "Fortunately, the opinion polls show that 75 to 80 percent of Iranians want to resist, and that we continue our programme and reject humiliation." He said supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final say on all matters of state, "has summed up our policy in one phrase: if you (the Europeans) are reasonable, we will negotiate with you, if not we have nothing to say to you."
"They tell us to suspend enrichment, but it is none of your business," said Nategh Nouri, insisting that fuel cycle work was permitted under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). "And what relationship is there between the NPT and the hyprocrites," he said, referring to the Iraq-based People's Mujahedeen armed opposition group.
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A Haiku for Ali Akbar Nategh Nouri:
It will come to you by stealth
born on silent wings
from the cities of America
or from the mountains of Judea
Flashes in the night.
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Mullah-girls ready for a hot time in Tehran.
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A deal committing Iran to suspend activities that Washington says are part of a nuclear arms program was close to collapse Friday, with diplomats suggesting that Tehran had reneged on an agreement reached with European negotiators just days ago. As envoys for both sides tried to salvage the deal, the International Atomic Energy Agency delayed a report on Iran's nuclear activities that had been scheduled for limited circulation Friday. A diplomat familiar with the IAEA said the delay was meant to give the two sides a chance to resolve the dispute and allow agency head Mohamed ElBaradei to include in his report an Iranian commitment to full suspension of uranium enrichment and related activities.
The IAEA overview on nearly two decades of clandestine activities that the United States asserts is a secret weapons program is being prepared for review by the agency's 35-nation board of governors when it meets Nov. 25. Based on the report, they will decide on possible referral of Iran to the U.N. Security Council, which could call for sanctions. After ending talks in Paris with Iranian envoys last weekend, European diplomats said there was tentative agreement on the part of Tehran to suspend uranium enrichment - which can be used to make nuclear arms - and all related activities. The deal leaves open the exact length of the suspension but says it will be in effect at least as long as it takes for the two sides to negotiate a deal on European technical and financial aid, including help in the development of Iranian nuclear energy for power generation.
But on Friday the diplomats told The Associated Press that Iranian officials had presented British, French and German envoys in Tehran with a version of the agreement that was unacceptable to the three European powers. The key dispute was over conversion of uranium into gas, which when spun in centrifuges can be enriched to lower levels for producing electricity or processed into high-level, weapons-grade uranium, said the diplomats, speaking on condition of anonymity. "The processing of what is to be enriched is the main problem," said the diplomat.
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That didn't take long. Guess they figured they'd made a bad bargain when Kerry didn't ask for a recount.
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Gee, the suprise-o-meter didn't even budge on this one!
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IOW, PC they're enticing Bush to attack their country, where US/Allied milfors will face nuclearized insurgents and potential anti-US foreign mil intervention,rather than send large numbers of loyal RVG to certain destruction vv anti-US combat in Iraq. PRAVDA, etal. >China is looking for oil and Russia's crude reserves will allegedly be history in circa "15 years", so the last thing they need is for over-successful America, GB, and the West to de facto control ME oil. MDB.RU author-commentator is proclaiming that China in 2004 is akin to Stalinist Russia of the 1930's, pre-WW2, where the main Commie Govt-Party is doing everything it can to quickly modernize, even at high, high, HIGH costs in lives, monies, and resources - if the author is correct, then China will need a major war where centralization is intensified/justified such that post-victory it will come out a de facto global superpower - Normandy-Pacific Victory, Lend Lease, post-War Marshall Plan, Korea 1 and Roswellian aliens, ...etc. notwithstanding!?
By Aws Al-Sharqi, IOL CorrespondentEFL
As the US military offensive on Fallujah entered its fourth day Friday, November 12, Shiite leaders came under heavy fire for a "dubious" silence over the aggression on the Sunni city.
Stop right there. The Marines in Falluja are coming under heavy fire.
The policemen in Mosul are coming under heavy fire.
The indolent Shi'a clerics are coming under heavy criticism from equally indolent Sunni clerics. Cry me a river.
"The silence of Shiite leaders over the US military campaign on the Sunni city of Fallujah is dubious and weird," Sheikh Mahdi El-Bedeiri, a Shiite scholar, told IslamOnline.net. El-Bedeiri suspected that Shiite scholars stopped short of condemning the strikes against the 300,000-populated Fallujah because of political reasons. "Do some of them consider taking part in the rule of the country or winning elections at the expense of the skulls of other Iraqis?," he said.
I'll take "Yes" for $500, Alex
El-Bedeiri called on Iraqi parties and organizations to stage demonstrations and sit-ins in protest at the "massacres and massive destruction in Fallujah" after the strikes. Still, the opposition of the Shiites to the military aggression on Fallujah took a gradual divisive shape.
Anti-US firebrand Al-Sadr vehemently condemned the strikes as "a brazen aggression" on Iraqis regardless of their sect or religion." Abdel-Hadi Al-Daraji, Sadr's aide, has also called on the Iraqi government to "stem the bloodshed" in Fallujah. Renowned Shiite scholar Mohamed Gawwad Al-Khalsi also slammed the assault and called for helping families that have fled Fallujah. "The aggressions on Fallujans are a demonstration of the government's failure to move all the way to peaceful solutions to the crisis," Al-Khalsi said in a statement. He warned that the offensive would have a negative impact on the political process in the country and on the elections, due in January 2005.
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"recalled that all Sunni religious leaders supported the Shiites in the holy city of Najaf and the Baghdad slum of Sadr City when the US-led military clashed with fighters loyal to Shiite leader Muqtada Al-Sadr. "
Yup. So no surprise that Sistani, is quietly supporting the US assault on Fallujah. At least not to anyone with a clue.
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Hey Sumaydai.... I seem to remember a bunch of shiite truck drivers that your bretheren butchered in Fallujah. Payback's a be-otch ain't it?
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âDo some of them consider taking part in the rule of the country or winning elections at the expense of the skulls of other Iraqis?,â he said.
Ooooh, when Saddam (a Sunni) was sitting pretty and picking on Shiites, I'll bet this guy had little to say about it. Now that it's Sunnis that are under the gun, all of a sudden it's all about fellow Iraqis. Louder, squeal louder, please.
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It does look like the timing of the decision to allow (mostly Shia) ex-pats to vote in the upcoming elections may not have been a mere coincidence .....
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Mosul probably won't be the same kind of fight.
From Hammorabi, "The people in Mosel, Ramadi and other areas begin to refuse to give safe heaven for the insurgents due to the fear of similar fate may happen in their cities."
Part of the plan? Of course.
"The people in Mosel, Ramadi and other areas begin to refuse to give safe heaven for the insurgents due to the fear of similar fate may happen in their cities."
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All these clerics are a bunch of windbags that think that issuing a fatwa will change the world and they will get their way. If Iraq is ever to get out of the hole that it is in, it first has to diminish the so-called power of the clerics.
BTW, speaking of wannabe clerics, have not heard much of Tater these days.....
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Half the Shia were certain we'd restore dictatorship because we'd failed to level Fallujah and salt the Earth. This guys wacked.
Although the idea that some Shia militia might have all joined up with the Iraqi military to get training and ammo and practice killing Sunni does seem possible to me.
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Ramadi is next. The Iraqis and kurds working together with possibly a battallion or two from us can take care of the terrorists in Mosul. Ramadi is a hornets nest of hard boyz and needs to be taken down fast.
When major combat operations ended in Iraq last year after the fall of Saddam Hussein, subsequent sporadic attacks on US troops were largely dubbed as typical post-war insurgency. However, the sustained strengthening of the insurgency has seen it grow into a widespread, organized resistance. Sources in the Afghan resistance movement informed Asia Times Online in written material sent through ordinary mail that the mujahideen decided before the US invasion of Iraq to make that country a hub of their activities. An organization called the Jaishul al-Qiba al-Jihadi al-Siri al-Alami had already been formed to send groups of jihadis to Iraq from time to time. These included Afghans and Arab-Afghans.
Well before the Islamic holy month of Ramadan, which ends this weekend, the resistance held a meeting in southern Baghdad. It was attended by representatives of many different Iraqi groups, which decided to launch "Operation Ramadan" all over Iraq. Therefore, by the time the US finally began its all-out offensive on Fallujah earlier this week, the resistance was prepared to hit back throughout Iraq - as has happened, with some of the bloodiest few days the country has seen in many months. This poses a difficult problem for the US, which needs to crush all resistance before the scheduled elections in Iraq in January.
For an insight into the dynamics of the resistance, Asia Times Online spoke to Pakistan's retired former director general of Inter-Services Intelligence, Lieutenant General Hamid Gul. He was one of the masterminds of the International Muslim Brigade, a force raised in Afghanistan to fuel the independence movements of Muslim-occupied territories. This later evolved into Osama bin Laden's International Islamic Front. Gul spoke to Asia Times Online by telephone from Rawalpindi.
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Likely so, RWV, but a large-scale insurgency in Iraq does create for special problems for the US.
On the one hand we have them practically throwing themselves into our guys' gunsights which keeps them off of our shores here - a good thing on the one hand.
On the other it creates an extremely difficult situation politically, domestically, and abroad. It would make for an open, bleeding wound in the side of this country and, while the moonbats are already trying to create problems for Pres. Bush, how long will we, the country as a whole, put up with a situation that looks more and more, according to the LLL and MSM like another Vietnam with body counts rising almost daily? It would put the President in an near-impossible situation politically.
With foreign policy already at risk due to leftist foreign governments and MSM we might be looking at a situation that creates problems on all fronts and forces the President to cut our losses.
Not a situation I'd like to see happen at all. It's my hope that our troops can put down this insurgency and any other problems it creates can be quickly dealt with. The longer it goes on the more problems it creates - for both the US and the Iraqi people.
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It'd be an interesting theory, but there has been no large scale uprising in Iraq, only unrest caused by terrorists who probably snuck out of Fallujah to try and cause uprisings. I'm sure that's what the terrorists are trying to accomplish but I don't see it happening.
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When the US slaughtered the Taliban and foreign fighters in Afghanistan the flow of fresh fighters from Pakistan stopped cold. I remember tales of fighters returning with harsh words for the religious leaders that talked them into going in the first place.
Fallujah is where the anti-government forces chose to make a symbolic stand. They used it in their propoganda and pretty much declared it a free city. Now they are either fleeing or dying. Not much propoganda value in that.
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rjschwarz is correct. The flood will not likely occur if the prospect of dieing is all too clear. The other aspect of this that I don't agree with is that the flood of foriegn fighters will be given refuge. Even within Fallujah there was resentment against the foriegners causing trouble. If the terrs continue to kill civilians then they will receive a less than pleasant welcome.
I think that Gul has either bought into or is trying to stoke the myth of the great Muslim fighter.
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All this Gul conjecture boils down to one salient thing: Iraqi national security. I an envision an influx of foreign fighters and heavy insurgent activity leading up the national elections, so the next three months will be heavy 'rock 'em sock 'em'.
More positively, first indications are that the Iraqi national forces are performing well in Fallujah.
Bad news: The police are highly suspect and prone to align themselves with the terrorists.
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These elections in January should be very interesting.
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Gul's vastly overestimating the appeal of Zarqawi and vastly underestimating the influence of Al-Sistani, who by his silence is giving a green light to the US to exterminate Zarqawi's followers prior to elections. The reason that the jihadists will lose in Iraq is quite simple: violence and chaos will only further marginalize the sunni population in Iraq and give greater sway to the shi'a. So long as the elections go forward-- and there's no reason to think they won't-- Zarqawi holds a losing hand.
Ramallah - The controversial wife of Yasser Arafat did not attend his burial service in the West Bank on Friday, choosing instead to stay on in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, Palestinian political sources said. Suha, who was at the centre of an unseemly row with four of Arafat's top lieutenants earlier in the week over access to her husband's hospital bedside, did not fly back with his coffin to Ramallah after a military funeral in Cairo.
Smart move, with all that gunfire she might have caught a "stray" round.
"She decided to stay on to receive condolences," one source told AFP. "She is then going to go back to either France or Tunisia" where she divides her time.
And hire a really good car starter.
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She cannot go to a funeral, she has got money to spend, i mean a husband to mourn.
Hat tip http://www.jihadwatch.org/
The east London hall echoes to the sound of the speaker's voice: "They want us to redefine Islam to fit the agenda of the west," he intones, and the audience murmurs. "Islam is going to be political, no matter how hard they try. Islam itself is political. Allah has not remained silent when it comes to political matters."
The speaker is a member of Hizb ut Tahrir, the most controversial Islamic group in Britain today. Critics have called for the group to be banned, as it is in Germany, while supporters hail it as the saviour of the Muslim community. Hizb - the name means Party of Liberation in Arabic - is banned throughout the Middle East, and three British men are in jail in Egypt accused of propagating its views. In Uzbekistan, thousands of Hizb members are in jail, and a Russian thinktank has compared the group to al-Qaida.
Eighteen months ago, the group briefly appeared in the public eye when the wife of Omar Sharif, the Briton who launched a failed suicide-bomb attack in Tel Aviv, was found to have leaflets from the group in her home. Hizb ut Tahrir also has a presence on university campuses, where it has been accused of anti-semitism.
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Ever notice that when movements start talking about the 'good o'days' and past glories, its the people who end up in big smoldering piles, usually the ones following such movements. Unfortunately, it also results in casualties on everyone else's part too.
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Jalaluddin Patel also had better understand that that big black rock in Mecca is now probably an aiming point.
Just so we "understand" each other. Okay, kid?
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Jalaluddin Patel obviously does not know the difference between a "War On Terror" and a "Crusade War against Islam"! Had this been a bonafide War of Christians against Muslims, the US's plight and other 'For Christ' nations, would have been much easier! Total Islamic national destruction could be acheived with or without the nuclear option, because the technology of the West leaves too wide a gap for "MAD" (Mutual Assured Destruction)!!
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Kemal Ataturk, the founder of modern Turkey had this to say about the Caliphate and its results:
"Cruel and criminal laws in Turkey have been fixed for more than five hundred years on the rules and theories of an old Arab sheik, and through the abusive interpretation of ignorant and filthy priests....Islam, this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotten corpse which poisons our lives".
Let those modern day urgers of the Caliphate argue with that and and not harp back to some glorious mystical period that only ever existed in their fevered imaginations.
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Mr Patel may be the new face the pushes too far. If he does so we will see an alliance of the non-Muslim states like never before. Imagine what these asshats would do facing the wrath of the US, India, Russia and China (Europe is irrelevant). Can you say parking lot???? Unfortunately, the pessimist in me believes it will come to that. I pray it is otherwise and that those moderates within Islam gain power over its future direction.
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What remoteman said. What's missing from this statement? (Hint: begins and ends with "e"...)
'an American journalist warned the audience that America, China and India would never tolerate an Islamic state "strung like a belt across the world. There would have to be a response." '
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Another way of looking at Islam is that it bears some similarities to pre-WWII Christianity in the Bible Belt of the US. In many places there was something of a dictatorship of the religiously intolerant--which came crashing down from 1945-1970. People suddenly realized that the Catholic Priests and Protestant Reverends really had no power their supplicants didn't give them. That it was *not their place* to order you how to vote, or spend your money, or how much you were required to give just because they said so. And Islam in some nations is starting to reach this point of economic success, democracy, and education, which destroys the power of the shaman. In truth, this is a war between modernity and civilization, and reactionary barbarism. In such a contest, barbarism loses unless it can annihilate all vestiges of civilization. The enemy, by any name, is just a vandal.
Like via Drudge, so it'll disappear pretty soon.
Osama bin Laden now has religious approval to use a nuclear device against Americans, says the former head of the CIA unit charged with tracking down the Saudi terrorist. The former agent, Michael Scheuer, speaks to Steve Kroft in his first television interview without disguise to be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, Nov. 14 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
Scheuer was until recently known as the "anonymous" author of two books critical of the West's response to bin Laden and al Qaeda, the most recent of which is titled Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror. No one in the West knows more about the Qaeda leader than Scheuer, who has tracked him since the mid-1980s. The CIA allowed him to write the books provided he remain anonymous, but now is allowing him to reveal himself for the first time on Sunday's broadcast; he formally leaves the Agency today (12).
Even if bin Laden had a nuclear weapon, he probably wouldn't have used it for a lack of proper religious authority - authority he has now. "[Bin Laden] secured from a Saudi sheik...a rather long treatise on the possibility of using nuclear weapons against the Americans," says Scheuer. "[The treatise] found that he was perfectly within his rights to use them. Muslims argue that the United States is responsible for millions of dead Muslims around the world, so reciprocity would mean you could kill millions of Americans," Scheuer tells Kroft.
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guy heads field unit. Guy fails miserably. Guy blames lack of resources, gripes about resources spent on central staff.
Then writes book blaming American Foreign Policy. WITH permission from the agency. Unprecedented?
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Bin Laden has been called Sheik and he's sent out Fatwas meaning he's of equal religious authority as anyone else (that's easy in Islam). This is a bunch of crap in my humble opinion. Binny wouldn't ask for permission.
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Gotta agree there -- Binny's been talking the "kill millions" line for years. He doesn't need special dispensation from yet another nutjob imam.
Although, it would be appropriate to give the Saudi in question a .50 caliber headache.
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RJS,
To further your point, even if Bin Laden had no religious authority whatsoever, how many names would he have to call from the Islamic Yellow Pages (under Fatwa - Please See Religious Edicts) before he found some nutball who would give him the green light to nuke our cities, pee in the shower and park in handicapped spots without a permit.
A non-story from a man desperately trying to be relevant.
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RWV---Right on! 60 minutes is no endorsement of your story, quite the contrary, it probably means that you are pushing some LLL agenda. Kinda like the Better Housekeeping seal of approval for nutjobs.
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I'd be worried about this normally, but seeing as somebody *religious* gave their blessing, I'm sure its going to turn out just fine.
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I helped train and fought alongside Osama and his fellow Muslims against the Soviets in Afghanistan - I can believe he needs "religious authority" because, as I've said on the Net over the years, Osama SOULFULLY believes he is SALADIN INCARNATE, and MAHDI/Messiah and Savior of ALL Islam, the per se "living" re-incarnation of the great Muslim-Islamic leaders of history. Someone who is so needs psychological and spiritual "acceptance", however grudgingly, by respected religious leaders if not from all of them, as to personal and divine validity. I'll say this - no matter where he is in the world, and no matter what Muslim country he attacks or overthrows, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO IRAN, THE GREAT MYTHIC FINAL BATTLEGROUND OF HEAVEN AND APOCALYPTIC ISLAM!
Wow - even Morocco doesn't want illegals
Morocco has arrested 256 illegal migrants in the past four days, state media reported on Friday as the kingdom cracks down on people trying to reach Europe. Authorities in several cities have detained 247 sub-Saharan Africans, five Bangladeshis and one Algerian, said official news agency MAP quoting the Interior Ministry. Three Moroccans were also arrested, the agency said. Thousands of people risk their lives every year trying to reach Europe on rickety boats. Many die. Morocco is a favoured jumping-off point for illegal migrants, the majority of them from sub-Saharan Africa, partly because the straits separating it from Spain are 12 miles wide at their narrowest point. Under pressure from the EU, north African governments have stepped up efforts in recent months to prevent would-be migrants crossing their territories to reach Europe, in particular Spain and Italy.
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Somebody tried to sneak into Morocco? Why would they want to leave their native paradises?
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"Might as well be frank, monsieur. It would take a miracle to get you out of Casablanca, and the Germans EU have outlawed miracles."
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Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar has accused the United States of trying to impose a puppet administration in Afghanistan and vowed to regain control of the country, a Pakistan-based Afghan news agency reported on Friday.
"Yar! The puppets dance to my strings!"
A message from [him] was sent to newspaper offices in Peshawar, the Afghan Islamic Press said.
'Cuz he can't get out his message any other way. Here he is trying to seem relevant. Sorry Omar, your time has passed. Afghanistan is free.
The message, to mark the Muslim festival of Eid al-Fitr, came the day before the third anniversary of the day when U.S.-backed Afghan forces captured Kabul from the Taliban on November 13, 2001. Omar said the Taliban remained committed to their Caliphate Islamic ideals. "There is much more brotherhood, obedience and steadfastness in the Taliban's Islamic movement than before," he said. "America and its puppets should know that we are determined to enslave and impoverish free and regain the sovereignty of our country." Omar said Eid was coming at a time when Afghanistan and Islamic values "remain plunged into horror and Crusader vengeance" and Taliban and mujahideen continued to be imprisoned by the United States in Cuba and Afghanistan. "America...is trying to impose its puppet administration," the message said. "Moral decadence, desecration of Islamic values and crime are increasing in Afghanistan. Every ploy is being used to mislead women." Omar said the Taliban "could have connived with America to retain power and this worldly rule by giving up Afghan honor. But they didn't do it," he said. "You should rest assured that I and my Mujahid colleagues will never accept anything except shari'a, sweet, sweet shari'a Islamic injunctions." The past year has seen increased violence by the Taliban and their militant allies, but they failed in their vow to disrupt presidential elections last month won by U.S.-backed incumbent Hamid Karzai.
Thanks for playing, Mullah Omar. Your time is up.
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It's tough being an unemployed potentate these days. I'll bet the poor guy's benefits have run out by now.
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He should move to Germany and claim 80% of his old salary for the next 100 years.
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How ya gonna get the girls back on the farm after they travelled three days to vote for the government of their choice?
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Mullah Omar is still playing dominoes with Osama, down in a 200 foot cave, eating cans of beans. He knows his "Dead Or Alive" declaration by 'W' won't expire despite the election. And it's a pain to have to watch your back from US Bounty and Head Hunters!
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Well there's the one celebrating Mo' sucessfully losing his virginity. The one celebrating his first sucessful act of rape. The one celebrating his first act of murder. You get the idea....
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Well I saw the thing comin' out of the sky
It had the one long horn, one big eye
I commenced to shakin' and I said "ooh-eee"
It looks like a purple eater to me
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Mahmoud Abbas is the best bet. Mr. Abbas is a realist and has a good working relationship with President Bush & PM Ariel Sharon.
Can he overcome the death cult jihadists such as Hamas & Arafat's collection of suicidal nuts is the question.
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Doesn't sound to me like anyone will have the power to make a real settlement for quite a while. The dust will have to settle from a Paleo "civil" war first. Most likely another opportunity missed.
Arafat died of AIDS-related failures,and, in the immediate aftermath of his death, the PLO will be dominated by the jihad-oriented faction of Fatah, strongly supported by the Iranian and Syrian governments. These are the reports of sources for Global Information Service Stations, in Paris, Cairo, Beirut and Gaza, and related in Friday's Defense & Foreign Affairs Daily. "When the subject of Arafat's AIDS condition was raised with a number of Palestinian, French and other sources, the response invariably was that it was an 'open secret', but one now increasingly spoken of in loud whispers..." Excerpt from headland
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So what kind of virgins does he get?
Yuckamora!
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I thought Aids was spread by monkeys, not camels
.... and if he did die days earlier, it would be just like the French to cover up and delay for some wild ass Ayotollah holiday.
I'LL JUMP UP AND DOWN ON HIS OXYGEN HOSE NOW!!!
Yasser Arafat's widow, Suha, is expected to receive a sum of $22 million a year out of the Palestinian Authority budget, according to the Italian newspaper Corriere De La Serra. Let's see how long she lives to spend it.
The paper said Suha reached an agreement about the money during a meeting with Mahmoud Abbas, the PLO's newly elected chairman, who visited while she was staying next to her husband's bed in the French military hospital outside Paris. It said Abbas personally promised Suha that she would receive $22 million a year to cover her expenses in Paris. The paper noted that in July Arafat transferred to his wife $11 million to cover her living costs for the first six months of the year. GOODBYE, RAMALLAH!!! I'LL MISS YOU SO MUCH!!!
Abbas and the Palestinian leadership were forced to strike the deal with Suha after she refused to allow them to visit her husband in hospital. COME SEE THE AMAZING DYING ARAFAT! ADMISSION:$22,000,000!!!
The Palestinian leaders reached the conclusion that it would be better to make a deal with her in order to solve the crisis surrounding Arafat's possessions and secret bank accounts. She gets her cut, and we get ours. It's strictly business...
According to Palestinian officials, the money that Suha is expected to receive will come from secret accounts held by Arafat and his cronies in various countries. They estimated that at least $4 billion were being held in these secret accounts. Which will all be used to support "The Struggle", of course. Right? Right? Hello?
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"Don't cry for me Ramallah,
The truth is,
I never liked you..."
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It is nice to know that she is mourning her husband and not concerned about the cash. Aint love grand?
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geez , what i could do with 22 million , and prolly make my corner of the world a little better for all around , and this fat maggot gets it to buy handbags . I swear theres not justice in the world :P
Anyway hope the pig gets squashed too , go go go terror thugs !
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The Palestinian leaders reached the conclusion that it would be better to make a deal with her in order to solve the crisis surrounding Arafatâs possessions and secret bank accounts.
According to Palestinian officials, the money that Suha is expected to receive will come from secret accounts held by Arafat and his cronies in various countries. They estimated that at least $4 billion were being held in these secret accounts.
Well well, these leaders apparently know where those "secret" bank accounts are. Interesting.
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This is why the Paleo "leaders" had to come to France - that Arafat was there was a matter of convenience. Like Willie Sutton said when asked why he robbed banks, "Cuz that's where the money is."
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probably had to remind her that she's dealing with killers....she didn't hold all the cards. I'd still expect her to have a fatal accident. $22 million will buy a very serious accident
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She's never gonna collect dime one. She'll get taken out by a double tap from a pali killer's silenced pistol in front of some fancy Paris store.
The French police will, of course, have no suspects...
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I wonder if she made the old fart use a condom?
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on the turkey baster?
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I wonder if she made the old fart use a condom?
A home makeover-style TV programme in Iraq that offers needy families the opportunity to have their war-damaged homes re-built from scratch has become a massive hit.
Labour And Materials, broadcast on Iraqi satellite channel Al Sharqiya, does not merely redecorate a room, but reconstructs entire properties destroyed in the ongoing conflict in the country.
The programme makers select families whose homes have been made uninhabitable either during the war or since, and reconstruct it to the extent of supplying new furniture - and even shiny new kitchen gadgets - for free.
"We knew it would be virtually impossible to get the house back to how it used to be," participant Raham Majad, whose house was destroyed in August, told BBC World Service's Outlook programme.
"A week after the explosion, Sharqiya channel came to our house, along with many other television channels, to see how much damage had been done and how many people had been killed.
"Three days later, Sharqiya came again, to tell us they'd rebuild our house - and pay for it too."
Rigorous process
Thousands have applied for the programme, but they have to go through a rigorous process.
Families selected typically have had their house was destroyed as a result of the war, and been made homeless as a result.
We want to motivate government institutions and human rights organisations to take their share in the reconstructions
Labour And Materials producer Riyadh Salman
One woman whose situation was deemed desperate enough was Hodar Mohammed Yasin, whose house was blown up when US forces exploded a truck loaded with rockets that had been left outside her home by officers of Saddam's regime.
Having already lost her husband before the war, she was left on her own with five children. According to an independent assessor, her house had suffered 100% damage.
"They chose my house as the first one to be rebuilt because I'm a widow and I have five children, and no-one to help me," she explained.
"The reconstruction lasted 45 days. I received the keys to my house on the 10th of April this year - exactly one year to the day since it had been destroyed."
Since the programme first aired, Labour And Materials' producers have been inundated with thousands of applications.
However, only three Iraqi families have been involved so far.
But producer Riyadh Salman insisted that the programme was attempting to highlight the problems Iraqi people faced when their homes were destroyed, and were pressing for more assistance from others.
"We start from scratch, and finish by putting furniture in these houses," he said.
"We want to motivate government institutions and human rights organisations to take their share in the reconstructions.
"But in spite of all the calls we've made to them, we haven't had any response."
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"Hi, and welcome to Trading Spaces. I'm your host, Page Davis, and today we're in Baghdad, where designers Kia Steve-Dickerson and Vern Yip and carpenter Amy-Wynn Pastor are ready to Iraq-and-roll our homeowners . . . ."
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Just remembered: here's a little gag I wrote back in March of '03, after the first bunker-buster strike on Baghdad:
Tonight on TLC: "Trading Spaces Goes to Baghdad!"
Some highlights:
PAIGE DAVIS: Across the street, Saddam and Uday want Frank's help in remodeling their bombed-out command bunker . . .
SADDAM (homeowner): Just look at this! Infidels! Criminals! The Zionist warmonger Junior Bush has ruined my walls! I have no storage space!
FRANK BILEK (designer): Okay . . . my vision for this room is, we're gonna put some nice country wallpaper over this concrete, give it a little splash of color. . . have Ty build us a nice entertainment center for all this electronics . . . some cabinets . . . finish it off with some slipcovers in this fabric . . .
TY PENNINGTON (carpenter): Paige, I can't work with these camels, I just can't!
PAIGE: . . . Take a look at your new command bunker.
SADDAM: Allah be praised! I love this room! I love it!
PAIGE: Well, Sam and Uday have a new room, I've got the GPS coordinates to send to General--er, I mean, to take home with me, and that's another edition of Trading Spaces.
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Great, maybe Bob Vila can resurrect his career...
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Meanwhile in Iraq: Iraqis burn a mock American flag during a rally against the U.S. military presence in Iraq after traditional Friday prayers at the Um al-Qura Mosque, a Sunni Muslim mosque on the outskirts of Baghdad, Friday, Nov. 12th, 2004. Sunni Muslim clerics Friday called a one-week general strike to protest the "massacres" in the besieged city of Fallujah. The strike would largely coincide with a major religious holiday when few go to work anyway.
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Do they ever work?
When I visited Morocco I saw men standing in all corners of the city (Marrakech) and doing nothing. A few were selling stuff in the souk, but apart from that I didn't see men *working*.
In the countryside, the men were just standing in the fields, watching kids take care of the goats, with tons of stones lying everywhere on the ground -- after centuries of living there they haven't even cleared the fields of either big or small rocks.
Not only are they filled with hatred for our freedom and prosperity, they're busy being unproductive.
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These guys work, it must have taken 10 whole minutes to make that flag. And just check out that wardrobe, you cant just put together an outfit like that! Flannel is back in Iraq
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Go to the link to see the frog flag unfuled with its ally's.
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"The Arabs are a filthy and lazy people."
-I wouldn't paint them all w/a super wide brush OS. The Chaldeans I knew in Detroit were some real hard working folks and entrepreneurs. They owned a lot of the 7/11s, gas stations, mom & pop grocers, etc. Being that they're Catholic
Iraqis and not muslims may have had something to do with it.
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From expierience in Saudi Arabia they seem to put all activity up to Allen. If asked if a package or shipment has come in it's "Allah knows" or if asked when will it get here, same answer. If nothing gets done it's Allah's will. If it does eventually get done it's Allah's will. They don't take personal responsibility for ANYTHING. Traffic signals are a joke and are ignored. If there is an accident, it's Allah's will. If nothing happens it's Allah's will. Muslims there seemed on the whole to be almost worthless.
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FRENCH FLAG! FLying at TERRORIST Event!
hhh , so thats where the missing french reporters got to :))
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When will my fellow Dems admit the obvious: in the middle east, France is not only not our ally, they're on the other side.
Oh, wait, millions of fellow national security Dems do see this, and did indeed desert the party and vote for Bush this year. Just don't ask them to admit it publicly.
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Wish Bush had the balls to tell France what he really thinks about them. But that would not be the politically correct thing to do now would it.
But silence is better than what Kerry would have probably done though. Suprised not to see a Kerry -Edwards campain sign carried thru the streets ... that would have been a few weeks ago.
And by the way lex.... Typical Democrat would not admit they voted for the best man. ... Figures ??
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Lieberman would have defeated Bush. But of course the MikeyJimmuhMadHow faction would never have allowed Lieberman anywhere close to the nomination. Crossroads now.
Ameera Dawoud is a Christian, but as soon as the Islamic holy month of Ramadan began, she traded her pants, fitted skirts and uncovered hair for oversize clothes and a veil. "They say you have to cover your hair or we will kill you," Dawoud said by telephone from the northern city of Mosul. "If you don't wear a veil, people look at you as if you were naked."
Some Christians in Mosul feel say they are being subjected to threats that have escalated during Ramadan and that may be designed to drive them out of the country, create religious tensions, or at least make life difficult. Even those who haven't received threats swap stories of anonymous phone calls and pamphlets plastered on walls or slipped under doors warning those who don't dress like devout Muslim women during Ramadan. Coupled with a series of attacks on churches in Mosul and Baghdad - and a general fear of insecurity gripping Muslims and Christians alike - some Christians have chosen to leave Iraq at least temporarily. Those who stay try to maintain a low-profile or play it safe and just follow orders. "Things weren't like that. During last Ramadan, we used to wear what we wanted and to go out whenever we wanted," the 30-year-old Dawoud said. "Now, I'm terrified, very scared." She said one of her friends left for Turkey after receiving death threats unless she converted to Islam. (more in link)
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Iraqis gather inside the damaged St. Matthew Church in Baghdad,
Tuesday, Nov. 9th, 2004, following a car bomb attack.
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Hey its the religion of Peace, its just that they want a piece of Christian
(2004-11-11) -- The coroner for the Palestinian Authority today announced that former Chairman Yassir Arafat died from "acute Tilex poisoning," and blamed the CIA and Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service.
"Infidel agents infiltrated Chairman Arafat's personal quarters and sprayed his bathtub with Tilex, a deadly toxin to certain lifeforms," said an unnamed spokesman for the coroner. "We believe the bathtub was poisoned up to two years ago, but Chairman Arafat's exposure came only recently, due to his personal hygiene schedule."
The coroner said his report "ensures Mr. Arafat's status as a martyr, which helps to overcome his shameful legacy as the man who signed a peace accord with Israel."
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Phewww,"Whats that smell,whats that smell that surrounds me"(Clasic rock).A bath ounce every 2 years ,man he musta been a stinken'.
NEW DELHI - India's prime minister has ordered a reduction in troops in the Indian-controlled portion of Kashmir this winter, citing a decline in separatist violence in the disputed Himalayan territory. Rival Pakistan said the move would help ease tensions in the territory, divided between the South Asian neighbors but claimed by both in its entirety.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said that in "recognition of the improvement in the situation," the forces would be withdrawn starting this winter and ending in March, though he did not disclose how many troops would be cut. "We cannot, however, afford to relax our vigil," Singh said in a statement Thursday. "If the levels of infiltration and terrorist violence increase, more troops as necessary will be redeployed."
Brahma Chellaney, a New Delhi-based defense analyst, said the real test would come when the snow melts next year, making it easy for militants to cross-mountain passes. "In recent weeks there has been some drop in infiltration," he said. "But we do not know if this is because of the difficult climate conditions or a result of Pakistan's action against terror groups."
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AAHh Shucks...Maybe next year India and Pakistan can nuke each other over the lush garden like land of Kashmir!
The new Palestinian leadership is prepared to resume the peace process with Israel without delay, "even immediately", Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath told Arab News yesterday.
I'd suggest waiting three or four months before plugging in the Peace Processor again...
Speaking in a telephone interview, Shaath said it was unfair to blame Yasser Arafat for the deadlock in the peace process that began almost four years ago. "The Israelis used Arafat as an excuse to derail the peace process," he said. "With Arafat now gone, they have no excuse."
That sort of thinking is why I suggest waiting. Maybe make it six months...
Shaath said the framework for the resumption of talks should be the so-called road map proposed by US President George W. Bush and supported by the European Union, the United Nations and Russia. "We are ready to meet our obligations," Shaath said. "We must work together to create security for both sides."
They should be able to do that in three to six months, I'd guess...
In what sounded like informal guidelines for negotiations, Shaath said both sides should take measures to reduce tension and refrain from acts that might harm the cause of peace.
Does that mean no more bus booms? No more 4-year-olds slaughtered in their jammies?
He said the Palestinians looked to President Bush and other sponsors of the road map to move fast to revive hopes of a peaceful settlement to the 50-year old conflict.
Six months is fast in the wonderful world of diplomacy. Ask anybody in Darfur...
Asked to comment on reports of a power struggle within the Palestinian leadership, Shaath said much of that came from "sources with doubtful intentions."
Like the guys struggling for power, maybe? Or were you still nattering on about the Jews?
He said the Palestinians realized that this was a crucial moment in their history and that they cannot afford any internecine feuds. "Our institutions are working in accordance with the Basic Law," Shaath said. "People should wait and see how we work before they judge us."
Good idea. Six months it is, then...
He said there was a large measure of consensus on free and fair elections, and called upon the international community to help organize the elections within the 60-day limit envisaged by the Basic Law (constitution). "Israel must end its occupation of our cities and let us breathe," Shaath said. "The Israelis must remove the road blocks, let our people move, and resume a normal life as we prepare for the elections."
He said Israel should not attempt to interfere in the Palestinian people's forms of mourning their lost leader. "The Israelis should stop trying to dictate our joys and our sorrows," Shaath said. "They should let us be, at least in this moment of grief."
I doubt Israel really gives a fart, unless something blows up.
Shaath said the Palestinians would always remember Arafat as the man who brought them together and gave them a national identity. "Before Arafat, we were refugees seeking charity in the eyes of the world," the foreign minister said. "Arafat gave us a sense of dignity, made us realize that we are a nation, and persuaded the whole world to recognize us as such. Even the Israelis who never mentioned the word Palestinian ended up accepting that we are a people, a nation."
Yeah, and then he screwed it up, because he was a revolutionary and not a statesman. Who's going to take over now that he's gone? A statesman? Another revolutionary? Or a party hack with no power either way? We'll know in six months.
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This has to be the Laugh of the Day. And only someone of the Arab persuasion would have both the audacity to suggest this makes sense and the stupidity to believe it does.
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I agree .com, give them a 6 month probation to quiet things down, with no incursions into Israel to bomb or snipe, then ratchet up the peace machine!
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No, Arafat wasn't a 'revolutionary' but a simple 'murderer' and 'terrorist'.
Revolutionaries don't deliberately target and murder innocent children ande babies. Arafat gloried in both.
Keep building the fence - build it faster! Until all the bloodletting is done in the upcoming Paleo civil war and they kill each other off in their de-facto 'palistinian state'.
Hamas will never give up murdering innocent civilians -- they are addicted to it.
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Dear Mr. Nabil Shaat,
The Road Map is now immersed in liquid nitrogen
together with sperm samples from Hitler and Arafat.
Will be thawed only after the last Jihadi is dead !
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Correct Elder!
Whom could Israel sit at a table with among the gun firing horde in Ramallah? ? ? ? ?
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The Palestinians wiped their asses on every peace proposal in the last 30 years. F*ck em. The end.
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its gonna get complicated now. Of course there will be no serious diplomacy in the short term, as Fred has pointed out. But there may be good reason for Israel to give a few goodies to Abu Mazen, to help him consolidate power. That will mean less "popcorn" and Israel will want something in return. IF Abu MAzen also asks for a "hudna" with Hamas, he and Hamas will really have to deliver - no attacks against Israelis, even in settlements. And a smooth transition in Gaza.
Most of whats important should take place quietly. Much of what Abu Mazen can do for Israel, he cant talk about publicly.
The exact word I would NOT use to describe suicide bombers, Arafat, Hamas, Hexbollah, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, or more recently, the mob that attended the burial today. You don't express grief for someone you loved by joining a mob of people who are completely devoid of self-control. I amazed that Arafat's body didn't fly out of the tilted coffin with all the bodies pushing and shoving like a mob at a concert, hysterical for the chance to rub the coffin and anoint themselves. Passion? Obviously. Dignity? Not a shred.
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This guy is asking for negotiations immediately in order to establish that he's the boss and hopefully head off a civil war.
I say the Israelis tell him to stop terrorism for six months as a "good will gesture" (why should the Israelis have all "the fun"?). THEN talk-talk can start.
#9 The Palestinians wiped their asses on every peace proposal in the last 30 years. F*ck em. The end.
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âThe Israelis used Arafat as an excuse to derail the peace process,â he said. âWith Arafat now gone, they have no excuse.â
Nothing has changed. The Paleo mindset appears not to be any different than before, Arafart or no Arafart; according to them it's still Israel's fault.
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Waiting six months to evaluate post-Arafat behavior is a good idea, and it will give time for the stench to clear from Arafat's path to Hell, just in case the next Paleo leader has to follow him.
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Monitor the TV broadcasts for type of propoganda. That will tell you all you need to know about the new boss.
These guys have a model by which they will opperate. Unless they have a new outlook then why change the outlook regarding that. Business as usual me thinks unless otherwise noted.
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They want them to begin within 6 months? And what do THEY have to do to convince the "international community" that they are not only serious but worthy of negotiating with?
I would say 1) Whoever they "select" as their news leader must be expected to state publicly and without qualification Israel's right to exist and 2) The Palestinians must be expected to be terrorist-act-free for those 6 months.
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Wouldn't every terrorist on Israel's hit list show up at this funeral? Sounds to me like the perfect place for a nice alpha strike by the entire Israeli air force.
Hmmmm. On second thought, perhaps we should send that contingent of mid-level State staffers who are self-righteous political partisan poofs that entered service during Camelot II (lol - the Clintoon era), are convinced their shit doesn't stink, and are utterly determined to sabotage the Foreign Policy of President Bush. They would not be missed should something untoward occur during the festivities. Not that we know of any such plot! Heaven forbid! *wink wink nudge nudge*
Would it be uncouth to ululate during the program?
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Watching yesterday's Hamas march,all of them armed,seemed like a good time for a few straffing runs.I was wondering if Suhieee was going to attend,after all her period of morning ended when she got her first 22 mill check.
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Hiya! Tommy Flanagan...ummmmmm.... President. Yeah, that's it! Of the United States...that's the ticket! May I present my..wife...Morgan Fairchild! It's great to be here in Ramalammadingdong!
Who's the dead guy?
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The new interim Palestinian leadership has been challenged in a move that could hamper plans to succeed the late Yasser Arafat. Palestinian sources said PLO Foreign Department chief Farouq Khaddoumi has challenged the proposed appointment of a four-member team to succeed Arafat. The sources said Khaddoumi has claimed his right to succeed the PLO chairman. The four-member team has been composed of PLO Executive Council secretary Mahmoud Abbas, Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei, Palestine National Council chairman Salim Zaanoun and Palestinian Legislative Council speaker Rawhi Fatouh. Under the Palestinian constitution, Fatouh would become PA chairman until elections were held for the post.
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Oh no! This challenge might introduce rancor into PaleoLand. To maintain PaleoLand standards, the position of Chief Embezzler Chairman should go to the ugliest, most hateful, and viciously ruthless thug. To be certain the right one gets it, they should put all 4 into ThunderDome for a Whaleo in Paleo Special. Offer it on cable PPV for $29.95.
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Arab leaders (L to R), Prince Ali of Jordan, King Abdullah of Jordan, President Ali Abdullah Saleh of Yemen, Crown Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt and President Ben Ali of Tunisia
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Arafat was born in Egypt. He can be buried in Egypt. The Israelis should have made it clear Arafat is Egyptian and that is where he will be buried.
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nice picture Mark Espinola , I wondered where all my tea towels had got to , the thieving wretches .
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Prince Ali of Jordan, King Abdullah of Jordan
which government Arafat tried to overthrow in 1970 and from whose territory Arafat was expelled
President Hosni Mubarak of Egyptwhose government Arafat as a member of the Muslim Brotherhood tried to overthrow and from whose territory Arafat was expelled
Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul said that he has warned his American counterpart Colin Powell about the US operation against the terrorists in Fallujah, reported the Turkish media yesterday. In a statement made during Parliamentary budget talks, Gul said that he talked to Colin about Turkish concerns. "We told him civilians should not be hurt and an increase of civilian losses would cause more trouble in Iraq. We explained our anxiety about the issue. We hope that these operations will end as soon as possible, so peace can be established and a proper election atmosphere can come to Iraq," said Gul.
Peace won't be established with the Bad Guys continuing to control territory. Period. It's too bad the Islamic heroes are hiding among the civilians. It's too bad the civilians welcomed them with open arms, too. Cause, meet effect.
The Turkish FM added that "All the countries of the world wants to see Iraq stabilized, with Turkey first among them because Iraq, first of all, is our neighbor and secondly, the Turkmens, Kurds and Arabs in Iraq are all our brothers. Peace for them is a matter of intense concern for us," reported the source.
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ROFL!!!
As Chirac would say, Gul has missed yet another opportunity to STFU, lol! If only they had been our allies, instead of allied to Saddam, they would have a "say" in what happens in Iraq, today. They happily forfeited this "right" for a pocket full of French mumbles. Now they can play with themselves. That will have the same effect on US actions, only feel better.
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Those 20,000 Turkish troops, are they on their way? No? Nothing?
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So if we continue the offensive, this will be seen as proof that we're inhumane. If we discontinue the offensive, it will be seen that we've suffered a bloody defeat.
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These statements out of Turkey must be for public(world) consumption; I believe Turkey is singing like canaries in secret to the US!
"W" is curiously quiet about this. 20,000 troops poised to invade Iraq, should be "irritating" him by now.
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And if we don't stop killing terrorists in Fallujah Turkey will do what?
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.com, re #1-I am glad they didn't get that chance. It would have been a betrayal of the only people in that area who have been steadfastly, patiently willing to work with America (Kurds). We better show some loyalty to people who have SOME genuine wish to work with us, not those who have failed more than once to genuinely work with us (unless our goal is to perpetuate the regional myth that Americans are double dealers who betray their friends).
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Powell should show the Turks a map of independent Kurdistan. ALL of independent Kurdistan including half of Turkey, chunks of Syria and Iran. Tell them that is the backup plan if things get fouled up.
Oh, and verbal taunts can foul things up as well as threats to send 20,000 troops into Northern Iraq.
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The real test of the Turkish complain is whether they'll even (explicitly) threaten - much less carry out - an attack on US forces, whether or not they hit the Kurds ...
Turkey vs. US'd be interesting.
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Turkey's just polishing its resume for EU admission. "See -- we sassed the Americans just like Jacques does!"
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"Turkey vs. US'd be interesting."
Heh, yeah - for about an hour - considering crew scramble, rotation, and flight time. We'd have to order some more mops, too.
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"We hope that these operations will end as soon as possible, so peace can be established and a proper election atmosphere can come to Iraq," said Gul."
As turkey does nothing to achieve such an outcome. I could just see Powell drop his jaw at such a statement. Yes Abdul, asap, thx for your concern and deep insight, Hadn't thought of that, who could have, damned deep, brought me out of my slumber.
Muslim fundamentalist insurgents seeking to topple the government are holed up in a conservative city with little sympathy for secularism or pluralism. They raise the banner of Islam, and they call on the rest of the country to rise up and expel the oppressors. The government reacts by massing forces around the city. It demanded that the militants surrender or the city give them up. If not, the city would be destroyed. Fallujah this week? Yes, but it was also the Syrian city of Hama in the spring of 1982.
The fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood seized Hama as the first step towards its goal of a national uprising against the secular Baathist regime. The Syrian President demanded their surrender. His army shelled the city, and special forces went in to kill or capture the militants. The Syrians employed the same strategy that the US is using now. Its tanks and artillery waited outside the city; they fired on militants and civilians alike. Its elite units, like the American Marines surrounding Falljuah today, braced themselves for a bloody battle. The US condemned Syria for the assault that is believed to have cost 10,000 civilian lives. The Syrian army destroyed the historic centre of Hama, and it rounded up Muslim rebels for imprisonment or execution. Syria's actions against Hama came to form part of the American case that Syria was a terrorist state. Partly because of Hama, Syria is on a list of countries in the Middle East whose regimes the US wants to change.
Iraq's American-appointed Prime Minister, Iyad Allawi, declared a state of emergency on Sunday to assume powers reminiscent of those wielded by Saddam Hussein: to break up public gatherings, enter private houses without warrants and detain people without trial. Perhaps in waging war against the Iraqis who want to expel the Americans and topple America's chosen Iraqi leaders, the insurgents have compelled the US and its Iraqi allied regime to behave like the two Baathist regimes that they believed were so totalitarian they had to go. Other Iraqi cities must now fear the use of what The New York Times correspondent Tom Friedman called "Hama rules" against them. Unrest in the northern city of Mosul, where relations between its Kurdish and Arab residents have deteriorated to the point where Arabs on the west bank of the Tigris and Kurds to the west rarely cross the bridges to each other's neighbourhoods. Already, because the autonomous Kurds of northern Iraq are the only ethnic group allied to the US in Iraq, Arabs have begun killing Kurds. And Kurds are seeking refuge in the Kurdish-controlled northern region...
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Umm... it seems to me that the Coalition gave the local civilian population a good many months to leave, before applying the Hamas option on the terrorists/Ba'athists and their sympathizers remaining within Fallujah city limits. No moral equivalence to be found here.
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I fail to see what the title of the article has to do with the body of it . . . Kurds only get a passing mention in the tirade against the Cleansing of Fallujah. They make it clear here that the reason that the US was against the Syrian action in Hama was the wanton shelling/shooting of civilians not the elimination of terrorists. Makes sense that if we are attempting to eliminate the terrs then we are avoiding the mistakes of Hama.
So . . .
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PA officials were of the idea that president Yasser Arafat, who passed away this morning in a Paris hospital, was the victim of a radioactive poisoning sneaked into his body through an "Israeli" high-tech device, a source close to Arafat disclosed.
That'd be the Mark IX Zionist Death Ray, I believe...
The source said that Arafat was radioactively poisoned on the part of either a western journalist or a Palestinian agent visiting him at his Ramallah headquarters, and noted that the poison penetrated his body at two or three-meter-distance.
That's the way you can tell it was a Mark IX or better. Up until the Mark VIII you had to get closer than that. Except for the Mark IV, of course, but that one was so unreliable you never knew where it was going to hit. Plus, it left those distinctive craters.
He affirmed that French officials told their PA counterparts that several Arab figures had come under incidents similar to that of the Palestinian leader.
Yeah. They took out the elder Assad with a Mark V. I remember that well. And there are rumors they got Nasser with the old Mark I, but I don't think it was in production yet. I believe the Mossad actually beat his head in with a claw hammer and then left it in his hand, making it look like a suicide. It was all hushed up, of course.
No fair asking why the evil Zionists just didn't put a tank shell into Yasser's office in Ramallah.
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Damn they're good.
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No No,
I think it was done by a special Mark XIIa (beta version) flesh burrowing nano-landmine.
It penetrated arafat analy by sneaking up on him in the lavatory. After establishing itself in Arafat nether parts, it burrowed its way to his major arteries and from there to his brain.
However, reliable Mossad sources claim that the device failed because the Arafish pre-empted the
nano-landmine by going brain dead exactly 550 nanoseconds before the device exploded.
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They'll never prove it. We clean up real well.
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Militants vowed on Thursday to avenge what they called Israel's "murder" of Yasser Arafat. Top Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal — who presides over the faction's entrenched power base in the Gaza Strip from Syria — led the way in calling for revenge. "I accuse Israel of having poisoned the blood of Abu Ammar (Arafat)," he told Arab satellite television Al-Jazeera. "By killing Arafat today, Israel has killed the peace process. It has killed he who created with it this process," added Meshaal, himself the target of an assassination bid by Israeli agents in 1997.
And a subsequent attack due at sometime in the future...
Similarly, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades urged militants to avenge Arafat's "assassination." "Zionist Israel and the government of (Israeli Prime Minister Ariel) Sharon are responsible for the assassination of our leader by putting him under siege," the group said.
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Since every trace of truth was "assassinated" decades ago in PaleoLand, this will go down with nary a hiccup, lol!
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Let the stupid Hammas Jihaddi Lemmings (TM) come.
We are ready for them.
verily Darwinism works, this will clean the gene pool satisfactorily.
In fact , give us a few more years and a nice civil war in Gaza and we will demonstrate the miracles of evolution to all Paleos.
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I accuse Israel of having poisoned the blood of Abu Ammar (Arafat)
He says that like he seems to think it would have been a bad thing.
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RIYADH: Saudi Arabia's top religious cleric warned Saudis on Thursday against going to neighbouring Iraq to fight what he called a ruinous jihad against US-led forces. Responding to a call to jihad (holy war) by 26 Saudi preachers on Sunday, 
North Korea has said an early resumption of six-party talks on its nuclear arms programme will be difficult, and it wants to see how US President George W. Bush deals with Pyongyang following his re-election, Japanese and Chinese officials said on Thursday. Japan's top government spokesman said North Korean officials told their Japanese counterparts that Pyongyang was not keen to resume the multilateral forum anytime soon. "They said they were not in an environment where they could restart six-party talks in early stages," Chief Cabinet Secretary Hiroyuki Hosoda told a news conference. "We understand North Korea is not positive (on restarting the talks soon)."
Former US President Jimmy Carter called Yasser Arafat "a powerful human symbol and forceful advocate" who united Palestinians in their pursuit of a homeland.
A deal committing Iran to suspend activities that Washington says are part of a nuclear arms program was close to collapse Friday, with diplomats suggesting that Tehran had reneged on an agreement reached with European negotiators just days ago. As envoys for both sides tried to salvage the deal, the International Atomic Energy Agency delayed a report on Iran's nuclear activities that had been scheduled for limited circulation Friday. A diplomat familiar with the IAEA said the delay was meant to give the two sides a chance to resolve the dispute and allow agency head Mohamed ElBaradei to include in his report an Iranian commitment to full suspension of uranium enrichment and related activities.
Ramallah - The controversial wife of Yasser Arafat did not attend his burial service in the West Bank on Friday, choosing instead to stay on in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, Palestinian political sources said. Suha, who was at the centre of an unseemly row with four of Arafat's top lieutenants earlier in the week over access to her husband's hospital bedside, did not fly back with his coffin to Ramallah after a military funeral in Cairo. 
Omar said Eid was coming at a time when Afghanistan and Islamic values "remain plunged into horror and Crusader vengeance" and Taliban and mujahideen continued to be imprisoned by the United States in Cuba and Afghanistan. "America...is trying to impose its puppet administration," the message said. "Moral decadence, desecration of Islamic values and crime are increasing in Afghanistan. Every ploy is being used to mislead women." Omar said the Taliban "could have connived with America to retain power and this worldly rule by giving up Afghan honor. But they didn't do it," he said. "You should rest assured that I and my Mujahid colleagues will never accept anything except 
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Iraqis burn a mock American flag during a rally against the U.S. military presence in Iraq after traditional Friday prayers at the Um al-Qura Mosque, a Sunni Muslim mosque on the outskirts of Baghdad, Friday, Nov. 12th, 2004. Sunni Muslim clerics Friday called a one-week general strike to protest the "massacres" in the besieged city of Fallujah. The strike would largely coincide with a major religious holiday when few go to work anyway. 
Ameera Dawoud is a Christian, but as soon as the Islamic holy month of Ramadan began, she traded her pants, fitted skirts and uncovered hair for oversize clothes and a veil. "They say you have to cover your hair or we will kill you," Dawoud said by telephone from the northern city of Mosul. "If you don't wear a veil, people look at you as if you were naked."
The new interim Palestinian leadership has been challenged in a move that could hamper plans to succeed the late Yasser Arafat. Palestinian sources said PLO Foreign Department chief Farouq Khaddoumi has challenged the proposed appointment of a four-member team to succeed Arafat. The sources said Khaddoumi has claimed his right to succeed the PLO chairman. The four-member team has been composed of PLO Executive Council secretary Mahmoud Abbas, Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei, Palestine National Council chairman Salim Zaanoun and Palestinian Legislative Council speaker Rawhi Fatouh. Under the Palestinian constitution, Fatouh would become PA chairman until elections were held for the post.
PA officials were of the idea that president Yasser Arafat, who passed away this morning in a Paris hospital, was the victim of a radioactive poisoning sneaked into his body through an "Israeli" high-tech device, a source close to Arafat disclosed.
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