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Afghanistan
Polling Afghan Opinion
Posted by: ed || 03/17/2010 09:06 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  About ten percent have a favorable view of the Taliban (and their promise to bring peace and end corruption, something they didn't do when they ran the country in the 1990s.)

Heh, I guess Afghanistan has their clueless voters, too. Just fewer of them. Or maybe these are the ten percent who benefit from having these thugs around.

In any case, even if the Taliban did get rid of corruption, there would still be the clueless fanaticism to deal with. No thanks.
Posted by: gorb || 03/17/2010 10:29 Comments || Top||

#2  NEW KERALA/OTHER > PML-Q: SURVIVAL OF OBAMA PRESIDENCY DEPENDS ON PAKISTAN AND PAK SUPPORT FOR WAR ON TERROR.

* ION DAILY TIMES.PK > [Taliban Strike Unit] TERRORISTS PLANNING ATTACKS IN MAJOR PAK CITIES, including ISLAMABAD, LAHORE, + PESHAWAR.

Approxi 15 Talib Operatives = suicide bombers, etc. led by Leader "ASADULLAH".
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 03/17/2010 21:45 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan confirms pardon for war crimes
[Al Arabiya Latest] Afghanistan confirmed for the first time publicly on Tuesday that it had enacted into law a blanket pardon for war crimes and human rights abuse carried out before 2001.

Human rights groups have expressed dismay that the law appeared to have been enacted quietly, granting blanket immunity to members of all armed factions for acts committed during decades of war before the fall of the Taliban.

President Hamid Karzai had promised not to sign the National Stability and Reconciliation Law, when it was passed by parliament in 2007.

Human rights groups say they learned only this year that the bill had been published in the official gazette, making it law.

Karzai's spokesman, Waheed Omer, said on Tuesday that the bill had become law because it was passed by two-thirds of the parliament and therefore did not require Karzai's signature.

Parliament is made up largely of lawmakers from former armed groups, some accused by rights groups and ordinary Afghans of war crimes.

"This law was passed with a two-thirds majority in our parliament, and according to our constitution, when a law is passed with a two-thirds majority, it does not require the president to sign it," Omer told a briefing.

It was the first time the palace had confirmed that the measure had become law.
Posted by: Fred || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  the bill had been published in the official gazette, making it law.

Maybe Nancy has a better fourth option: Publish the HC Takeover bill in the Afghanistan Official Gazette and thereby make it law.
Posted by: gorb || 03/17/2010 2:59 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
Partition Nigeria to end violence: Qadaffy

Michael Jackson was buried in that uniform, wasn't he?
[Al Arabiya Latest] Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has said Nigeria should be partitioned between the Christian and Muslim communities to solve its sectarian violence problem, the JANA news agency reported on Tuesday.

He proposed that it should follow the partition model of Pakistan, which was born in 1947 after the Muslim minority of predominantly Hindu India founded their own homeland, led by Mohammed Ali Jinnah.

"The only thing that could put an end to the bloodshed ... is the appearance of another Mohammed Ali Jinnah, who established a state for the Muslims and another for the Christians," he told African student leaders, some of them from Nigeria, the agency reported.

"The painful situation that Nigeria is enduring resembles the situation of the Indian subcontinent before 1947, at the time of the massacres between Hindus and Muslims," Gaddafi said in the remarks on Monday.

India's partition resulted in hundreds of thousands killed, thousands raped, and more than 10 million left homeless on both sides.

Gaddafi suggested that Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo should lead efforts for a Christian homeland in the south with Lagos as its capital, and that a Muslim homeland in the north should have Abuja as its principal city.

Gaddafi, until recently the head of the African Union, said the two communities should peacefully agree to share Nigeria's oil and other natural wealth.

Several hundred people were killed last week in sectarian violence in Nigeria's central Plateau State.
Posted by: Fred || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gaddafi said the two communities should peacefully agree to share Nigeria's oil and other natural wealth. He's such a kidder, and a flashy dresser, too.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 03/17/2010 3:15 Comments || Top||

#2  He proposed that it should follow the partition model of Pakistan, which was born in 1947 after the Muslim minority of predominantly Hindu India founded their own homeland

Would probably end up a more ampt comparison than Gaddafi intends.
Posted by: Gaz || 03/17/2010 4:20 Comments || Top||

#3  The painful situation that Nigeria is enduring resembles the situation of the Indian subcontinent before 1947, at the time of the massacres between Hindus and Muslims," Gaddafi said in the remarks on Monday

Please note Gaddafi The Common denominator is that Muslims cant get on with other religions and this is supported by Arabs!
Posted by: Paul2 || 03/17/2010 7:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Joe Biden to the white courtesy phone.
Posted by: Alanc || 03/17/2010 7:40 Comments || Top||

#5  The massacres were caused by partition itself. Without the ethnic cleansing, the Pakistani state would not have been sustainable.
Posted by: john frum || 03/17/2010 9:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Without the ethnic cleansing, the Pakistani state would not have been sustainable.

You mean it's sustainable?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/17/2010 14:11 Comments || Top||

#7  It was tried once.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/17/2010 20:32 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Venezuelan govn't set to control the Internet
At least in Venezuela ...
According to academic research, the Venezuelan government changed its policy on public use of Internet after an electoral defeat in 2007. Raisa Uribarri, a professor and researcher at Los Andes University (ULA), says that following the adoption of the Constitution in 1999, the Law on Telecommunications and the Decree 825 issued by the Executive Branch of government in 2000, the Internet was viewed as a tool for economic development. Therefore, the Venezuelan authorities outlined strategies to expand its penetration.

The expert added that "2007 was a turning point." She stressed that the perception of President Hugo Chávez, who believed that his defeat in a referendum seeking a constitutional reform was due to the fact that "people did not understand the proposal" because of an alleged manipulation by the media, led to a change in the government strategy with regard to the Internet.

Meanwhile, Reporters without Borders (RSF), a non-governmental organization based in Paris that advocates freedom of the press, expressed its view with respect to the statements made by the Venezuelan ruler. Chávez criticized reports posted on a news website by two forum participants who reported the alleged murder of Minister of Housing and Habitat Diosdado Cabello and pro-government TV anchor Mario Silva.

"Imposing restrictions on the Internet will not solve the problem of false reports," RSF said in a statement.
Posted by: Steve White || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  King Canute.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/17/2010 2:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Law on Telecommunications and the Decree 825 issued by the Executive Branch of government in 2000, the Internet was viewed as a tool for economic development

Don't nobody tell Barack now . . . .
Posted by: gorb || 03/17/2010 2:45 Comments || Top||

#3  ...I'm sure Sean Penn is scheduling a visit with Obama now.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 03/17/2010 10:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Obama is trying the same thin whyn worry about venezuela'/
Posted by: chris || 03/17/2010 16:45 Comments || Top||


Spain: Venezuela not a "haven of ETA members"
Venezuela is not the new sanctuary of Basque terrorist group ETA, but there is a potential "core," that should be investigated by Spain, Spanish Minister of the Interior Alfredo Pérez Rubalcaba said.
Deep dig, boys ...
The minister remarks came after a Spanish judge issued a bench warrant against 12 members of ETA and of the Colombian Revolutionary Armed Forces (FARC), mostly of them residents of Venezuela and Cuba, AFP quoted.

"There is a core of people linked with ETA in Venezuela who have been there for some years and…some new additions might have been made," he told Radio Nacional de España (Spain's National Radio, RNE). "We need to check what it is, its extent, and above all, prevent it, if any, from sprouting or remaining," the senior officer said.

The Spanish government is interested in "clearing up any suspicion" and "I therefore request the cooperation of Venezuelan authorities and I think we will get it," the minister added.
Posted by: Steve White || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


China-Japan-Koreas
Power Split in N. Korea 'Unlikely'
A "sudden split in the leadership" of North Korea is unlikely but not out of the question, the International Crisis Group speculated in a report Monday. Titled "North Korea under Tightening Sanctions," the think tank's report points out that the Stalinist country has been "shaken by constricting international sanctions" and "extremely poor policy choices."
They paid a think tank for that ...
Robert Templer, ICG's Asia program director, said, "Instability, a coup d'état or even regime collapse would not be observable from the outside until well underway." Such a scenario could spark a humanitarian emergency demanding international intervention, he added.

"International sanctions have reduced foreign exchange earnings, while humanitarian assistance, which feeds millions of North Koreans, has declined due to political factors and donor fatigue," the report said. The North is skillful in forcing its residents, the weakest components in society, to bear the costs caused by international sanctions, it added.

Daniel Pinkston, ICG's North East Asia deputy project director, said the North Korean regime is faced with several internal challenges "that in isolation would each be manageable" but if such challenges occur all at once, they could pose a threat to the regime's survival.

But the report dismissed fears of a war. "The balance of power has shifted against Pyongyang, and the [North Korean] leadership is not likely to start a war it knows it would lose."
Posted by: Steve White || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They paid a think tank for that ...

And put them up in hotels and paid for their room service and prostitutes sightseeing, too.

But at least that money bought them some definite speculations they can use.
Posted by: gorb || 03/17/2010 2:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Rantburg is a lot better "think tank" than that. Can we get paid now?
Posted by: Spot || 03/17/2010 8:05 Comments || Top||

#3  The ICG's Board and Executive Commitee.
Posted by: Pappy || 03/17/2010 20:36 Comments || Top||

#4  VARIOUS > Seems SOKOR Officio believes KIMMIE may NOT survive the NEXT THREE YEARS [2013/2013-2015 r.o.]???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 03/17/2010 21:39 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Saudi Charity Designated As Terrorist Reopens Office In U.S.
The International Islamic Relief Organization (IIRO), a Saudi charity whose Indonesian and Philippine offices have been designated by the US. Treasury in connection with the financing of Al Qaeda, has registered a new office in the United States. According to Florida State records, the IIRO (U.S.A.) Inc. was registered as a non-profit Florida corporation in Hialeah, Florida on April 28, 2009. After being required by regulators to provide a street address rather than a PO Box, the office address for IIRO USA appears now to be located in a shopping mall and is likely some kind of mail drop. The Florida records identify the IIRO President as Adnan Khalil Basha who is the long-serving IIRO Secretary-General in Saudi Arabia and the IIRO U.S.A. registration document states that it is “intended, to be the US chapter of the International Islamic Relief Organization.'

Also: Further Muslim Brotherhood Connections Of The IIRO
Posted by: ed || 03/17/2010 15:04 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  well AL jiZZ HAS AAN OFFICE IN dc WHY NOT THE REST? THEY ARE NO DIFF THAN THE RE=ST

Posted by: chris || 03/17/2010 16:44 Comments || Top||

#2  9I know caps and all and yes i'm intoxicated
Posted by: chris || 03/17/2010 16:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Me thinks a visit is in order to the Florida mail drop....
Posted by: 49 Pan || 03/17/2010 23:36 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Perv accuses Nawaz Sharif of having Taliban ties
Former Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has accused ex-prime minister and Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) chief Nawaz Sharif of having ties with the Taliban.

"Sharif is a great threat to the stability of Pakistan as he is involved in acts of terror under the guise of a major power player in the country's politics," Dawn newspaper quoted Musharraf as saying in Seattle, Washington Monday night.

Musharraf also slammed the incumbent politicians over what he described as hypocrisy and political opportunism. He defended his tenure as a corruption-free administration, stressing that no cabinet member in his government was contaminated by corruption.

Pervez Musharraf came to power in Pakistan on October 12, 1999, after ousting Nawaz Sharif in a military coup.

He announced his resignation on August 18, 2008, amid impeachment threats. In a televised address to his nation, Musharraf said that he would prefer to resign rather than drag Pakistan through impeachment proceedings.

On August 7, 2008, the country's ruling coalition said that it would begin impeachment proceedings against Musharraf, who seized power in 1999.

Musharraf and the current Pakistani government have been heavily backed and influenced by Washington, which analysts cite as the main factor behind the growing instability in the country.
Posted by: Fred || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  For once i believe Perv as Sharif has an history with Saudi/Islamist!
Posted by: Paul2 || 03/17/2010 7:28 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Moussa: Israeli nukes, disturbing & threatening
After a European Union's top diplomat made remarks against Iran's nuclear program, Secretary General of the Arab League Amr Moussa has denounced Israel's possession of its vast nuclear arsenal.

"I wish to mention that Israeli nuclear activities are very disturbing and threatening to us," Moussa said in response to statements made by EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs Catherine Ashton on the alleged threats posed by Iran's nuclear activities.

"We should not speak only about Iran, but be unconcerned about military and nuclear adventurism in the Middle East," the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) quoted the Arab League chief as saying as he referred to Israel's hundreds of nuclear warheads.

"If we are against any nuclear actions, we [should stop] mentioning only one country," he added

"The relation between us and Europe is indeed [one of an] old history and common destiny," he said. "Since there is a common destiny, then the threat to our own security is very important. We have to be fair and objective and strategic about what we do."

Moussa expressed support for international talks with Iran and called for help to establish diplomatic negotiations and to prove that Iran's nuclear case is not a threat to the region.

Citing "concerns" over Iran's domestic capabilities to enrich uranium, The US and its allies accuse Iran of the "intention" to enrich uranium to weapons-grade levels and have gone to great lengths to prevent the country from producing fuel for its medical and industrial needs.

World powers, most of which possess and continue to develop vast nuclear arsenals that have been tested and even used in military confrontations, have been lobbying for a "symbolic" tightening of economic measures against the Tehran government.

As a signatory of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Islamic Iran insists that it neither believes in atomic weapons, nor, as a matter of religious principles, does it intend to access such weapons of mass-destruction.
Posted by: Fred || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wish to mention that Israeli nuclear activities are very disturbing and threatening to us

Yeah. Israel is constantly waving that threat around.

Unlike other nameless nations in the ME who aren't planning on developing nukes, and who never threaten Israel with annihilation.
Posted by: gorb || 03/17/2010 2:51 Comments || Top||

#2  In the 45 years that they've had nukes, has Israel either used or threatened to use these weapons?
Posted by: john frum || 03/17/2010 9:47 Comments || Top||

#3  I think the answer is NO, they still haven't admitted offically to even having nukes.
Posted by: || 03/17/2010 14:13 Comments || Top||

#4  ION WMF > US, ISRAELI ATTACK ON IRAN FROM AFPAK, PERSIAN GULF WILL QUICKLY FORCE IRAN INTO MOUNTAIN, URBAN GUERILLA WARFARE. IRAN'S ARMED FORCES MAY FIGHT FOR AS LONG AS SIX MONTHS AGZ US INVASION.

* SAME > POST-US,ISRAELI ATTACK AND GROUND INVASION, CHINA SHOULD ACCEPT IRAN'S GOVT-IN-EXILE AND PROVIDE SUCH MILITARY ASSISTANCE AS TO HELP TURN IRAN INTO ANOTHER 1950 NORTH KOREA [anti-US Chinese = Foreign forced mil intervention], or VIETNAM [support of local Popular Armed Resistance in Iran backed by regular-conventional Military Forces].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 03/17/2010 23:45 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
'Hurva synagogue prelude to al-Aqsa destruction'
The Gaza-based head of al-Quds International Institution warns against the reopening of Hurva synagogue as part of an Israeli plan to erect a Jewish temple on al-Aqsa ruins.

In an interview with al-Alam, Dr. Ahmed Abu Halabiya on Monday described the restoration of Hurva as part of a project to destruct al-Aqsa, some 700 meters away, and build the Israeli claimed Solomon's Temple in its place.

Israeli officials have reportedly called on Israelis to march into the al-Aqsa Mosque on Tuesday, highly revered as the third holiest site in the Muslim world.

Abu Halabiya called on Palestinian officials to take legal action through international organizations, such as the United Nations and the international Criminal Court in The Hague, and press for the trial of Israeli officials for the violations in al-Quds.

The Hamas MP in the Palestinian legislative body said protecting al-Quds's Islamic identity is a responsibility not only for the Palestinians, but all Muslims across the globe.

Also on Monday, Palestinian groups convened in Gaza city at a conference on al-Quds, calling on the Muslim ummah and the Arab world to stand up against Israel's provocations in the holy city.

They warned the Israeli regime against any violation against the al-Aqsa Mosque and vowed to defend their religion and sanctities if Israel risks igniting a religious war in the region.

The Monday meeting was attended by representatives from most Palestinian factions, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. The Fatah-led Palestinian Authority, however, refused to participate.
Posted by: Fred || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad

#1  The Monday meeting was attended by representatives from most Palestinian terrorist crazy-committee factions, including Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.

Has Israel EVER allowed a synagogue to be built in place of (or taking over) a mosque? Has this happened anywhere in the world?
Posted by: Free Radical || 03/17/2010 5:39 Comments || Top||

#2  the Hurva synagogue is built on the ruins of other buildings including a 2nd century synagogue

Paleo agiprop claims that among the ruins is a mosque built by Omar (one of the 'rightly guided caliphs'). Of course there is no evidence of this but that doesn't stop the agiprop.


There are some minicults in Israel that do advocate rebuilding the temple. However, they want to rebuild it at the site of the Dome, not at the Al Aqsa Mosque (they are within about 300' of each other)
Posted by: lord garth || 03/17/2010 9:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Paleo agiprop claims that among the ruins is a mosque built by Omar...

OK, they can take a number.

There are some minicults in Israel that do advocate rebuilding the temple.

All religions had/have/will have their odd minicults. It just shows that they're alive.

So, another excuse for an intefada... they always work out so well.
Posted by: Free Radical || 03/17/2010 12:01 Comments || Top||


Third intifada in pipeline: PLO official
The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) warns a third uprising will ensue if Israel pushes ahead with its practices in East Jerusalem (al-Quds).

"If matters remain at this level, regardless of whether we take the decision or not, it [an intifada] is coming. If Israel continues these practices, it is coming," Ma'an news agency quoted the organization's executive committee member, Ahmed Qurei, as saying.

Intifada "is not a matter of official decision, but rather it arises from the culmination of oppression, injustice, aggression and tyranny. It is something the people decide," Qurei told reporters during a Monday news conference in his office in East al-Quds.

"This is what happened with the two previous intifadas," he recalled.

Qurei criticized repeated attempts by Tel Aviv to change the city's demographic nature and the threat the regime posed to Arab Muslim and Christian identity. Israel's policy is aimed at severing al-Quds from negotiations and fully annexing the city to Israel, he added.

On Monday, a synagogue rededication ceremony, a few hundred meters away from the al-Aqsa Mosque compound, drew angry protests from Palestinians and prompted Hamas to call for massive demonstrations and dubbed Tuesday Palestinians' "day of rage."

Qurei, too, condemned the reopening of the Hurva synagogue as a "dangerous program" seeking to "Judaize" al-Quds and to falsify history.

The PLO official also spoke of unprecedented aggression and provocation from Israelis, citing a recent leaflet distributed by radical Jews calling on non-Jews to leave al-Quds amid mounting speculations of an Israeli takeover of the al-Aqsa Mosque compound.

Revealing an 1882 map of al-Quds, which illustrated planned Israeli settlements, the former Palestinian prime minister said it proved "an unprecedented danger, which targets its land, people, holy sites, heritage and history."

Despite intense security measures by Israeli authorities on Tuesday and the presence of some 3,000 security forces in al-Quds, thousands of angry Palestinians gathered in different neighborhoods of the city and protested the restoration of the synagogue.

Israeli forces clashed with the Palestinian protestors and fired rubber bullets and stun grenades to disperse the demonstrators.
Posted by: Fred || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under: PLO

#1  Thank you Mr. President.
Posted by: DoDo || 03/17/2010 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Revealing an 1882 map of al-Quds, which illustrated planned Israeli settlements, the former Palestinian prime minister said it proved "an unprecedented danger, which targets its land, people, holy sites, heritage and history."

Un-friggin-believable.
Posted by: phil_b || 03/17/2010 0:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Zionists have twisted the facts long enough. American Zionists, including liberals, have even prevented any debate on these matters for over 60 years as they successfully antisemite-baited anyone who questioned their version of history.

The Palestinians were expelled from the homeland and were not even provided minimum compensation. Instead, the Israelo-American lie is that those nasty Palestinians left their homes because they just don't like Jews, i.e. they are no better than Nazis and deserve the same fate!

A huge part of antagonism toward America in the world today stems from its pro-Israel settlement policies these past 60 years. They are a HUGE slap in the face to all emerging countries, most of which have also underwent bloody struggles to obtain independence!

If we Americans want to roll back terrorism, we must be a credible moral force! If we continue to support Israel's constant encroachment on Palestinian lands and rights, the hundreds of billions of DOLLAR$ we are spending and the thousands of brave American lives sacrificed are all for naught!!
Posted by: hunterkiller || 03/17/2010 1:01 Comments || Top||

#4  @#3 hunterkiller: You need to study history and quit being a tool.
No one was thrown off 'their' land, although wars do displace people.
The fact is more Israelis were displaced from their lands than Palestinians were at the time the state of Israel was born.
The Turks owned the land for hundreds of years that became known as TransJordan. The land was divided after WWI with 2/3s going to the newly created country of Jordan and Jews receiving a small piece west of the Jordan river. These Palestinians are 'fake' people. Even the other Arab states know these people are fakirs.
Even Arafat was born in Egypt.
You never ever hear about Palis demanding their land back from Jordan. Why is that?
It's about religion.
The Jews have every right to live on the land of their forefathers.
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 03/17/2010 1:20 Comments || Top||

#5  If they are talking about it, they already planned it and rearmed and their bullying is to provoke even more reaction from the Israelis.

The goal of the Intifada is to cause Palestinian causalities for Muslim sympathy, just like last time.

I hope the gold dome is in pieces when it's over.
Posted by: Jith Ghibelline8809 || 03/17/2010 1:46 Comments || Top||

#6  And those Arabs (there were no 'Palistinian' people then) who were 'driven out' left of their own free will with the hope of returning and participating in the rape of Israel.

And why is it that Arabs in Israel don't want to leave? Even for another Arab state?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 03/17/2010 2:09 Comments || Top||

#7  Israel has changed a bit, in the meanwhile. Paleos, and their patrons, are in for a big surprise.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/17/2010 2:12 Comments || Top||

#8  most of which have also underwent bloody struggles to obtain independence!

OT, but bullsh!t. The colonial powers were desperate to dump their colonies. All those roads, railways, schools and hospitals cost a bucket of money they could no longer afford.

Although with respect to the ever informative John Frum, India was an exception.
Posted by: phil_b || 03/17/2010 2:22 Comments || Top||

#9  How some people find it possible to support a murderous gang of thugs like the palestinian groups is a constant source of wonder to me. I might suggest to hunterkiller a bit of bible study to locate this town of al-Quds or, if that's problematic, a review of the last few years of Rantburg for articles on paleo behavior.

As a matter of fact, I have read postings recently on other sites making the same twisted points. I smell a memo passing around out there. I can't decide if it's the usual suspects or our new administration.
Posted by: Dogsbody || 03/17/2010 2:25 Comments || Top||

#10  The Palestinians were expelled from the homeland and were not even provided minimum compensation.

[Grrrr.]

kunterhiller: Suppose for the sake of argument you are correct that "Palestinians" inhabited the areas that are currently infested with "Palestinians". Would it not make sense that any Jews ejected from Muslim lands deserved a reciprocal right to return and compensation? Would you happen to know what I am talking about?

But alas, we don't have to suppose that there were "Palestinians" there, since that was a term invented by Arafat's clan back in the 60's to lend credence to their bogus claim for those too lazy to study any history whatsoever to sieze onto, along with the bogus implications that come along with the name. The truth is nothing was there before the Jews came along. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Maybe a nomad or two and a few migrants from other countries in the area, but they are everywhere and nowhere, so who cares. They can go elsewhere. The only reason Muslims put up with them is because they are useful fools as a thorn in Israel's side. Nothing else. If they were so loved, Jordan or Egypt could easily take them back in or at least let them cross into their land to obtain medical help. They don't.

The UN set up a mandate after WWII that this land belongs to Israel. Done. Finito. The UN deeded them the land because it was basically unoccupied except for a few Muslims who apparently attracted some others and who all breed like rabbits. Got a problem understanding that or accepting it? Take it up with the Useless Natterers themselves.

And if you still believe that tripe, and still have such a problem with "Palestinian" squatters' lands being taken over by Zionists, then why don't you start fixing such situations right here in your own back yard? Buy up as much property as you can and just give it to a Native American. Don't expect them to say thanks because it was theirs to begin with anyway, and there never was a UN resolution deeding it to the invaders anyway.

You've been outsmarted by Muslims playing the Fool's Sympathy card. But of couse, you like it that way because it gives you a cause that gets your blood moving and you fit right in with your mentally challenged liberal friends. Don't forget to maintain your denial after you leave here.

Or if you'd rather, look into it yourself. There is a real cause you could attach youself that will get your blood moving, too. And it's based in facts and truth, which has the benefit of you not having to walk around depending on people not being aware of false assumptions all the while maintaining your own denial and willful ignorance.
Posted by: gorb || 03/17/2010 2:36 Comments || Top||

#11  Just remember this, who was dancing on 9/11?
Posted by: Jith Ghibelline8809 || 03/17/2010 2:41 Comments || Top||

#12  And yes, Barack, at this rate it seems it won't be long before your comments cause more blood to be spilled.

Good thing that useless wall is in place.
Posted by: gorb || 03/17/2010 2:42 Comments || Top||

#13  Just remember this, who was dancing on 9/11?

The same folks who were ululating and throwing candy.
Posted by: gorb || 03/17/2010 2:43 Comments || Top||

#14  Welcome to International Terrorism 101. During this sememster we will examine the connection between US AID payments and Palestinian uprisings.
Posted by: Besoeker || 03/17/2010 4:05 Comments || Top||

#15  OT, but bullsh!t. The colonial powers were desperate to dump their colonies. All those roads, railways, schools and hospitals cost a bucket of money they could no longer afford

It varied, certainly many colonies were money sinks that the Europeans weren't gaining much benefit frm towards the end of their rule. OTOH there were quite bloody independence struggles against the Europeans in many places - Vietnam, Algeria, Angola.

Small Euro forces were fighting bush wars all through the 50's, 60's and into the 70's before they finally gave up their empires.
Posted by: Gaz || 03/17/2010 4:35 Comments || Top||

#16  OTOH there were quite bloody independence struggles against the Europeans in many places - Vietnam, Algeria, Angola.

Vietnam was a communist takeover.

Algeria and Angola were ethnic civil wars that continued long after 'independence'. Although one faction in the Algerian civil war were 'white settlers' who left en mass toward the end. In excess of a million people left Algeria. Another faction, the Berbers were slaughtered. An unknown number were killed, perhaps a quarter of a million in the next 40 years of civil war.

Angola was similar, but without the white settlers and with bigger body counts.
Posted by: phil_b || 03/17/2010 8:07 Comments || Top||

#17  Tell 'em to go ahead. The first two worked out so well for them.
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/17/2010 10:01 Comments || Top||

#18  who cares if pleos where thrown off their lands? they're losers and that what usually happens. Even the arabs in the resst of the middle east don't want these cockroaches
Posted by: chris || 03/17/2010 11:22 Comments || Top||

#19  Since the U.S. is apparently upset with the Israeli government, now is the best time for the Palestinians to shut up and make a deal. If they miss this chance, the survivors will end up with their options substantially reduced.

If instead the Palestinians keep annoying the Israelis, eventually the Israelis are going get fed up and go all Old Testament on them.
Posted by: rammer || 03/17/2010 13:12 Comments || Top||

#20  eventually the Israelis are going get fed up and go all Old Testament on them

Seems to me that somewhere in the old testament it says to kill all the Arabs or they will forever be a thorn in your side.

I don't agree with it, but it's still there. Tells you how much of a pain they were when it was written, and not much has changed since then. Including that the women still have real tits and the men still hold hands. ;-)

But I'm sure that over the next generation or two they will suddenly see the light.
Posted by: gorb || 03/17/2010 14:07 Comments || Top||

#21  Talk is cheap.........if you Rantburghers, as American citizens, have a problem with the Apartheid regime of Israel; A let your money do the talking. Boycott all Israeli products and services immediately like many of us. And if you are aware of businesses that engage in commerce (or support) Israel in any way, boycott them as well. It's pretty simple, and it worked with South Africa. Boycott Israel now!
We should also demand an immediate cessation of all US aid to Israel, particularly military aid. We must not be part of these crimes against humanity B if you do not have problems with Israeli your cause is domed anyway …..Jews in the USA are only 1.4%
And only a small percentage of them support Israel “at oltranza” Regarding the Christian yahoos … well they are irrelevant, and AIPAC? Well AIPAC and is members are already branded traitors of the America peoples and is political and military interests
So in the end is a non winning situation for the racist Israel and is morons Anti-American supporters, Real Conservatives do not happily embrace that little shity state at all.


Posted by: hunterkiller || 03/17/2010 15:26 Comments || Top||

#22  One can be sure that many of our troops on the front lines wonder if they're actually fighting for our freedom (questionable on it's face) which they may have signed up for, or for Israel's security. I expect it doesn't take long in the field of battle to figure that one out, or at least to question it. I can imagine how they feel when they learn how the Israeli government shows so little regard for its closest ally and benefactor. (Unless of course our military shields them from the facts)

It is disgraceful that so many of my compatriots in this post that call is members Americans don't have the courage or character to stand up to the Israeli influence in the face of this obvious disregard. And, while pontificating about the moral high ground and human rights they, without pause, willfully overlook Israel's flagrant violations of the standards that they profess to hold so dear.

It is truly no wonder why the approval ratings of Rantburg are so low
Posted by: hunterkiller || 03/17/2010 15:38 Comments || Top||

#23  Hey, has Boris slithered back? The IP traces out to California. Will have to ask the Mossad if he's still a bedwetter.
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/17/2010 15:42 Comments || Top||

#24  Seems to me that somewhere in the old testament it says to kill all the Arabs or they will forever be a thorn in your side.

well there are the anti Amalek passages (e.g., one in Ex 17: 8-16, Num 24:20 and Deut 25:17-19) but no one really considers the Arabs to be the genetic descendants of Amalek (although some people have discussed whether Hamas is a spiritual descendant of Amalek).

there is also the command to drive out the Canaanites (also various places) but the Arabs aren't Canaanites, and besides, 'drive out' isn't the same as 'wipe out'.

on the subject of a 3rd intifada, if the PLO really wanted to this and could do this they would just go ahead; the fact that they make announcements shows they don't have it together enough to do it.
Posted by: lord garth || 03/17/2010 15:53 Comments || Top||

#25  Hey kid!!!!!tu3031 F@@@ - OF R T Fritzsche Army Airfield Fort Ord (Marina), CA, USA
Posted by: hunterkiller || 03/17/2010 15:54 Comments || Top||

#26  Hey kid!!!!!tu3031 F@@@ - OF R T Fritzsche Army Airfield Fort Ord (Marina), CA, USA
Posted by: hunterkiller || 03/17/2010 15:54 Comments || Top||

#27  Seems to me that somewhere in the old testament it says to kill all the Arabs or they will forever be a thorn in your side.

I am not a biblical scolar (not even close! and perhaps someone else will chime in) but I believe the target were Philistines (not at all related to the non-people Palestinians). And that is the only time a group of people was targeted for death.

The Philistines had some truly reprehensible and sick practices in their worship of Baal.

(I've heard someone once contend that Allah is a derivative of Baal) Some of the Islamic practices - human sacrifices (also known as suicide or homiside bombers and their victims) and child sacrifices (Mothers sending their children out to be suicide bombers - see Palestine, Hamass, etc...) might lend some credence to this.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 03/17/2010 15:58 Comments || Top||

#28  I stand (or sit) corrected Lord Garth...

Whoever they are :) - they had some vile practices.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 03/17/2010 16:00 Comments || Top||

#29  The problem is that "Palestine" is a feverish promise given by Soviet masters to Marxist Arabs in exchange for a homosexual favors.

Srsly, however, South Africa is a very poor example of proving your point, and Zimbabwe is far more instructive; taking a once prosperous land and turning into a Marxian sh*thole, the eventual intention of Hamas et al.
Posted by: badanov || 03/17/2010 16:05 Comments || Top||

#30  Egypt, jordan Russia ,China and the Palestinians are well paid to not attack Israel. This war is ongoing and there is no peace..nor will there be until zionism is renounced by the Jews d0uches and one state created...If Mubarek should die, turmoil in Egypt could be the beginning of the end for Israel as a Jewish state...

Posted by: hunterkiller || 03/17/2010 16:37 Comments || Top||

#31  Maybe.

Or maybe in the end a whole lot of primitive, violent countries that contribute less to the world as a group than tiny Israel will become seas of cooling glass.

Israel is not the only place where patience is running thinner than the rabid drool that comes from the mouths of Islamicists and other anti-Semites.

Another option is for us to simply stop funding places like Gaza, where families have 10+ children on the welfare teat, paid for by the West but not by their brothers in Islam. Places where men are obsessed with 'honor' but whose idea of honor doesn't seem to extend to working hard, earning your own way and taking responsibility for your own lives. Or even to such basic steps as telling the truth to themselves and to others.

We might also want to stop funding these same people when they migrate to Britain and other Western countries. For Israeli doctors to stop treating Palestinian children and elderly in their hospitals.

And for us to tell you all it's time for you to stop blaming the Jews - or the West - and to acknowledge the huge failures of Islamic culture and countries for the last 1000+ years.
Posted by: lotp || 03/17/2010 16:51 Comments || Top||

#32  could be the beginning of the end for Israel as a Jewish state...

LOL - I get the impression "hunterkiller" is typing that one-handed
Posted by: Frank G || 03/17/2010 18:08 Comments || Top||

#33  Egypt, jordan Russia ,China and the Palestinians are well paid to not attack Israel.

*snicker* *snort* *bam!!*
Ow! Dammit, hunterkiller, I just fell off my chair 'cause I was laughing so hard! Nobody with at least two brain cells to rub together and the ability to read could even conceive of the notion that China and Russia could be paid enough to do or not do anything, especially when it involves some piddling little never-ending Middle Eastern squabble. Honest to God, you are the stupidist troll we've had wander through here in all the years I've been paying attention.

tu3031, he's not a bedwetter any more because his mother discovered Attends. If you drive past the neighborhood the stench no longer makes your eyes water.
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/17/2010 19:07 Comments || Top||

#34  It is truly no wonder why the approval ratings of Rantburg are so low

Hey, hunterkiller, if your mouse isn't too sticky to work, could you provide a link please?
Posted by: gorb || 03/17/2010 20:02 Comments || Top||

#35  working from memory, the biblical "kill them all" bit was a commandment to Saul (king before David). That Saul did not was the causation for his fall from favor and eventual replacement by David and David's line. later in the book of Nehemiah we see one of the decedents of those spared by Saul causing trouble and attempting to prevent the restoration of Jerusalem and the Temple. History continues to repeat itself.
Posted by: abu do you love || 03/17/2010 21:26 Comments || Top||

#36  Besides, the relatively few Arabs that did leave Israel did so because their 'leaders' required it, not because they were driven out. The ones that stayed have a relatively good life today.
Posted by: KBK || 03/17/2010 21:40 Comments || Top||

#37  "now is the best time for the Palestinians to shut up and make a deal. If they miss this chance, the survivors will end up with their options substantially reduced."

Remember what Abba Eban said, rammer - Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Expect nothing logical from those losers.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 03/17/2010 21:47 Comments || Top||

#38  It is truly no wonder why the approval ratings of Rantburg are so low

Why would Fred care? He established Rantburg for his own amusement, not as a commercial venture, and as a result it's a very narrow interest site. Not at all the kind of thing that would attract large numbers like the filmstar gossip sites.

More importantly, those who understand the issues this site addresses do rate it highly. It's like getting high marks from physics professors rather than amateur photographers... Oh wait -- Rantburg counts both among regular readers. Also Special Forces and State Department johnnies, and the Instapundit, but we shouldn't expect a law professor who runs one of the most popular sites on the web know about such things.

Do try again, dear Mr. hunterkiller.
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/17/2010 22:50 Comments || Top||

#39  hunterkiller=internet badass. post name and location someone like me can kick the shit out of you
Posted by: chris || 03/17/2010 23:25 Comments || Top||

#40  Ya mean that vacuum cleaner trying to be sold to me was....used?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 03/17/2010 23:32 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
U.S. surveillance blimp fights harsh criticism in Thailand
Posted by: ryuge || 03/17/2010 01:04 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If they fell for the GT200, they are fools. The blimp looks fine to me.
Posted by: Jith Ghibelline8809 || 03/17/2010 1:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Looks good to me too. Looks like the MSM being suckered by the arcanery of Bangkok politics.
Posted by: phil_b || 03/17/2010 2:13 Comments || Top||

#3  To fly the Sky Dragon blimp, "there is a need for ongoing helium to be provided, but it is at the cost of approximately 200,000 baht (6,000 U.S. dollars) per month,"

You could use Hydrogen. its a lot cheaper.
Posted by: Haliburton Static Discharge Division || 03/17/2010 7:19 Comments || Top||

#4  Halli, not only is H2 cheaper, it has a lot more lift too. The Hindenburg was great, right up until the end.
Posted by: Glenmore || 03/17/2010 7:36 Comments || Top||

#5  Aieeee! It's the Dirigible of Doom!
Posted by: Mike || 03/17/2010 8:46 Comments || Top||

#6  $10 million will buy a lot cameras on cell or standalone towers.
Posted by: ed || 03/17/2010 9:12 Comments || Top||

#7  They could always go for the Dirigerbil, or a Gerbiloon.
Posted by: OldSpook || 03/17/2010 13:34 Comments || Top||

#8  http://www.rathergood.com/mark

The origins of Derigerbil.
Posted by: OldSpook || 03/17/2010 13:37 Comments || Top||

#9  WMF > IMPERIALIST US NOW SENDS MILITANT PROXIES TO FOSTER CONFLICT IN SE ASIA COUNTRIES.

* ION SAME > ARGENTINIAN DEFNCE MINSTER: LACK OF MODERN MILITARY TECHNOLOGIES, STRONG ECONOMY ALLOWS ARGENTINA TO WAGE ONLY A "TWO-HOUR" WAR [at best] AGZ BRITAIN OVER THE FALKLANDS.

"Don't Cry for Me, Argentina" Argentina in 2010 has even fewer operating = "ready" mil asets to fight than it did agz Thatcher, i.e. only 2 of 16 Argen Air Force strike planes, + 16 of 60 Argen Navy warships???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 03/17/2010 22:07 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Syria ready to make up with Wally Jumblatt
[Al Arabiya Latest] Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is ready to turn a page on the past by meeting Lebanon's Druze leader Walid Jumblatt, Hezbollah, which is mediating between the former arch-foes, said late on Monday.

The Lebanese Shiite group's leader Hassan Nasrallah "has advised Jumblatt that given recent developments, the Syrian authorities will forget the past and open a new page," it said in a statement.

"President Assad will receive him in Damascus during a visit on a date to be announced in the coming days," Hezbollah added.
Definitely pass on the sushi, Wally ...
The announcement came two days after the Druze leader admitted he had made "inappropriate and unreasonable remarks about President Assad at a time of internal tensions and extreme division within Lebanon."

On February 14, 2007, the second anniversary of the murder of Lebanon's premier Rafiq Hariri, Jumblatt had branded Assad "the dictator of Damascus... a savage... an Israeli product, a liar... and a criminal."

A reconciliation between Jumblatt and Damascus could boost Syria's role in Lebanese politics years after its troops were forced out of the country. It will also probably weaken the Western-backed coalition that Jumblatt once helped lead until he split with them in August.

Nasrallah has been mediating between the Syrians and Jumblatt for several months.

The Hezbollah statement said the Syrian decision came after Jumblatt's "clear stance and courageous review" of his comments.

After the Hezbollah announcement, Jumblatt told Syria's al-Watan newspaper, which is privately owned but guided by government policy, "the old page has been turned forever."

Jumblatt, 60, was the main force behind the creation of a Western-backed alliance that led massive street protests to demand the withdrawal of Syrian troops from Lebanon following the Feb. 14, 2005 assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri's assassination. Many Lebanese blamed Syria for his death, a claim Damascus denies.

The Syrians pulled their army out of Lebanon in April 2005 ending nearly three decades of domination of their smaller neighbor.

Asked when he expects to visit Damascus, Jumblatt told al-Watan that "there is no specific date yet but I am waiting to go to Syria because I have a lot to say to President Assad."

"The most important thing is to forget the past and open a new page," he said.
Posted by: Fred || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria

#1  Nice try Wally, but Assad ain't a forgive and forget kind of guy.

You'll get boomed, just like the rest as soon as you leave those mountains.
Posted by: phil_b || 03/17/2010 0:40 Comments || Top||


Iran urges Sweden to take action on cartoons
Iran has urged Sweden to "seriously deal with" a Swedish newspaper which has republished a sacrilegious cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

"Iran strongly denounces the reprinting of the disrespectful cartoons," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast on Monday, adding that Tehran was concerned about the negative consequences of such "provocative acts."

On March 10, the Swedish daily Dagens Nyheter reprinted a sacrilegious cartoon of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) by Swedish caricaturist Lars Vilks after the Irish police arrested seven suspects in an alleged plot to assassinate Vilks.

The cartoons were first published in Sweden in 2007, prompting worldwide protests by Muslims.

"Iran calls on the Swedish government to seriously deal with such anti-religious approaches," Mehmanparast said.

The Irish police later released three of the seven suspects, who were from Algeria, Libya, Palestine, Croatia and the US. Police charged an Algerian and a Libyan with minor offenses in connection with the plot.

The arrests were part of an international investigation into alleged death threats against Vilks.
Posted by: Fred || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran


Irans regime plagued with despotism: Karroubi
[Al Arabiya Latest] A day after his apartment block was besieged by hardliners calling for his prosecution, defiant Iranian opposition leader Mehdi Karroubi lashed out at the government, saying it was "plagued with despotism", his website reported on Tuesday.

"Unfortunately, the (Islamic) republic has been plagued with despotism and elections have become meaningless. It has become only a term," Karroubi told a group of visitors from central province of Isfahan, according to his website Samannews.

The cleric, who continues to question the legitimacy of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's re-election, said it was still difficult for him to understand how the hardliner won the poll last year given his government's track record.

"How can one believe that a president with so many objections against him such as inflation, unemployment... gets more votes than he got in his first election?"

Karroubi's remarks came two days after hardliners reportedly gathered outside his Tehran home, calling for him to be put to death.

Karroubi and former prime minister Mir Hossein Mousavi have led a protest movement against Ahmadinejad since his June re-election, which they reject as massively rigged.

Ahmadinejad has been accused of stoking inflation with a populist economic policy that has involved pumping large sums of money into the economy.

His wife, Fatimah, charged that a group of "thugs" paid by "corrupt" government officials had vandalized the apartment block where the family lives.

Iran's Fars news agency described the small but vocal crowd which gathered outside the flats as "students and families of martyrs" of the Iran-Iraq war.

Pictures carried by the pro-government Borna news agency showed the building defaced with red coloring while slogans pronouncing "Death to Karroubi" were scribbled on the walls.

Karroubi was attacked by hardliners during Iran's commemoration of the Islamic revolution of 1979 on February 11 and his car was shot at in January in the city of Qazvin, west of Tehran.
Posted by: Fred || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran


Iran to issue 100,000-rial notes
[Iran Press TV Latest] The Central Bank of Iran (CBI) plans to issue 100,000-rial notes in the next Iranian year -- a move which analysts consider the result of rising inflation.
How many Zim-bucks is that ...
CBI Deputy Head Hamid Pourmohammadi said on Tuesday that the decision was part of the bank's plans to slash three zeros off Iran's national currency, ILNA news agency reported.

According to Fars News Agency, the announcement comes as the head of Iran's Bank Tejarat, Majid-Reza Davari, said 500,000-rial notes would also be issued in the next Iranian year, which begins on March 21.

Pourmohammadi said the decision is part of CBI's "monetary reform plan" but analysts say rising inflation has led the government to issue high value notes. A US dollar is currently about 10,000 rials.

The Iranian Parliament last week approved the budget bill for next year, which includes an economic reform plan to cut costly subsidies.

Although the rate of inflation has dropped from last year's record high to about 9 percent, economists believe the cutting of subsidies will stoke up inflation.
Posted by: Fred || 03/17/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  I guess that means they won't need to worry about getting wheelbarrows to use as wallets for another year or so.
Posted by: gorb || 03/17/2010 2:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Wait, they don't have an equivalent to the $100 bill? That seems inconvenient.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 03/17/2010 11:28 Comments || Top||



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