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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Stuff to help pass the time while you wait...
Election Snippets:
Sign Thief... one look in her eyes will put you off your feed...

Giant Waffle mobile...

Even the heavens are for Skeery... if you ask moonbats, that is...

Other Snippets:
In Oz, anything is possible...

Teaching Kids not to be fooled by advertising...

Job applicants foil bank robbery...

The Irish in Ireland are all wet...

SNSFW (because of the musical lyrics) in Flash:
When it seems that everyone else is scoring while you’re on the bench...

NSFW - When the politics and spin and double-talk and polls get to be too much - and you just need a quick does of reality / sanity - reset your priorities with this:
Emergency Boobies

And finally, something that would make Dr Strangelove smile:
Nuke Picture Gallery (really)
Posted by: .com || 10/31/2004 7:01:25 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Is Ms Armitage related to Richard?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/31/2004 19:11 Comments || Top||

#2  If Ms Armitage is found guility of her Grand Theft & Battery charges, she'll be a felon - and ineligible to vote. Bwahaha!
Posted by: SC88 || 10/31/2004 21:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Armitage is a total bat. My EYES!
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/31/2004 21:13 Comments || Top||


Rabbit Held Hostage for €1,000,000
Just when you think the baby duckling syndrome can't go any further, up pops someone like C. Krohm. I'm hard pressed to decide whether this loon is some sort of marketing genius or just a vicious brute. Most likely both, but he has certainly nailed the PETA types to the tune of some €54,000, so far.

Personally, I'm hoping that some bent-axle millionaire makes a counter offer of more than €1M to have this weasle eat Bernd raw online with steaming streaming video.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/31/2004 3:35:26 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ***CAUTION*** I got a virus alert warning from this website.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/31/2004 16:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Virus
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 16:29 Comments || Top||

#3  NOTICE: One and all, if the linked web site is virus laden, you have my deepest apologies. I would NEVER knowingly inflict such a thing upon Rantburg.

Editors, please test the link or just disable it out of hand if you do not have the time.

HAPPY HALLOWEEN,

Zenster
Posted by: Zenster || 10/31/2004 20:52 Comments || Top||

#4  It's just a flipping popup, selling anti virus via fud.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/31/2004 22:20 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Moderate earthquake jolts northern Pakistan
IRNA -- A moderate earthquake, measuring 4.8 on the Richter scale, twice hit Pakistan`s mountainous northern areas on Sunday, the metrological department said. There was no report of any casualty or property damage. The quake hit the Gilgit region, about 400 kilometers north of the capital Islamabad, first at 5:19 a.m. and then at 11:03a.m., an official in the metrological department of the northern city of Peshawar said. He said the epicenter was located in Astore, some 300 kilometers northeast of Peshawar, the capital of North-West Frontier Province. The earthquake sent people fleeing from their houses, according to local correspondents. Several earthquakes in the past have hit Pakistan`s northern areas, which are considered to be located in the earthquake zone. At least 23 people were killed and many injured in an earthquake that hit Gilgit in November 2002. In 1974, a huge earthquake, measuring 6.0 on the Richter scale, killed 5,300 people close to the town of Patan, some 150 kilometers along the Karakoram Highway between Gilgit and Islamabad.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 6:33:36 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Up 10, port 19, focus at 3.445i, fire!
Posted by: Shipman || 10/31/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||


Mild quake jolts Kerman, Iran
A mild earthquake measuring 3.4 degrees on the open-ended Richter scale jolted the outskirts of the city of Kerman (capital of the province of the same name) in southeastern Iran late Friday. The provincial Seismological Center affiliated to the Geophysics Institute of Tehran University recorded the tremor at 23:44 hours local time (20.14 GMT). There are no reports of any casualty or damage to property caused by the quake.
Iran's jihad regimé made up of tyrannical Shi'ite strongmen, may soon discover the full wrath of sudden reciprocity, for the 25 years of deliberately inflicting a living hell on the Iranian population.

This is just some wishful thinking. Acts of God are manifested in different forms throughout the globe. Being that Iran is historically prone to serious seismic jolts, let's say in the near future an 8.2 earthquake were to totally crush the lavishly decorated residence of one of Tehran's most feared ruling despots.

At the precise minute the killer earthquake strikes, it also totally destroys the other main, overly swank, heavily guarded residential district, where the vast majority of the nation's rouge government resides, ridden the civilized world of a monstrous evil and opening the doors of freedom.

Stranger things have happened. So we can always hope something will spare an eventual nuclear countdown confrontation with Iran's collection of Muslim madmen & their blood stained fingers on the button!
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 5:05:05 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Now Mark, back off, the granite lens is not quite ready yet.... see to have a side lobe of monstrus pre portions.
Posted by: The Mossad || 10/31/2004 13:56 Comments || Top||


Britain
UK Telegraph endorses Bush
Or 'Kerry isn't the answer'
Since so few readers of The Telegraph have a vote in Tuesday's presidential election, it might seem impertinent or redundant for this newspaper to express a preference in the knife-edge contest between George W Bush and John Kerry. But the economic, military and diplomatic power of the United States is so great - and its links with this country so intimate - that it is important to ask which of the candidates would govern America in a way which better served the British national interest.

Last year, Britain's exports to the US were worth more than £29 billion; American firms invested more than twice as much in this country as they did in any other. It is essential, therefore, that whoever wins on Tuesday has the firmest commitment to free trade. Mr Bush, it must be said, blotted his record in this respect with the deplorable steel tariffs imposed by the US during his period of office. But Mr Kerry goes much further down the protectionist route.

Although the Democrat candidate has a respectable voting record on free trade, his choice of running mate - the arch-protectionist John Edwards - scarcely inspires confidence. Ominously, Mr Kerry has promised a 120-day review of all existing US trade agreements. In an astonishing comparison with the most famous traitor of the American Revolution, he has launched savage attacks on "Benedict Arnold CEOs" for "shipping American jobs overseas". Such callow economic illiteracy is a depressing step back for the Democrats: Bill Clinton's dedication to the completion of the North American Free Trade Agreement was exemplary. By campaigning alongside Mr Clinton in the last days of the contest, Mr Kerry tried to signal that he shares the values of the last Democrat President. To adapt the famous put-down of Lloyd Bentsen: "Senator, you're no Bill Clinton."
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Posted by: Bulldog || 10/31/2004 5:37:19 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  BravoGO TELEGRAPH! Well Done
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 5:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Telegraph gets it. Nice touch with the little thingees Mark.
Posted by: John Q. Citizen || 10/31/2004 6:05 Comments || Top||

#3  John Q, 'Little Thingees' Angelic is exactly what they look likeDouble Fisted Chugger.

The link for thousands of 'Thingees' for FREE!
Email

Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 7:35 Comments || Top||

#4  Flash!
Shipman endorses Telegraph!
Posted by: Shipman || 10/31/2004 13:21 Comments || Top||

#5  The telegraph *is* cool, no doubt. But I've always been fond of the Pony Express
Posted by: SteveS || 10/31/2004 14:08 Comments || Top||


Europe
Vatican sex guide urges Catholics to do 'it' more often
A Vatican-sanctioned sex guide is encouraging churchgoers to make love more often in an effort to offset "impotence and frigidity" and address papal concerns over declining birth-rates among Italian Roman Catholics. The controversial book, It's A Sin Not To Do It, written by two theologians, promises the reader answers to "everything you wanted to know about sex but the Church (almost) never dared to tell you". In their attempt to galvanise the faithful, Roberto Beretta and Elisabetta Broli, who write regularly for the Italian Bishops' magazine, Avvenire, have written one of the raciest works ever to deal with the Church and sex. Bullet points on the jacket cover underline the central message: "Sex? God invented it. Original sin? Sex has nothing to do with it. Without sex there is no real marriage."

"When people think of the Church and sex, they think of prohibitions and taboos," said Beretta. "But there is a very different and positive side to Church doctrine which needs to be emphasised." In both style and content, the guide - published earlier this month - marks a radical break with traditional Church pronouncements on physical intimacy. Forty years ago, the Vatican published a notorious set of guidelines for courting Catholics that outlawed even French kissing before marriage. The pages of It's A Sin Not To Do It, however, feature a frank interview with Cardinal Ersilio Tonini in which he emphasises that "the Church is not an enemy of the flesh". He argues that Vatican doctrine has always defended the "nobility of sexuality", which is regarded by the Church as a "treasure" of humanity.

Another chapter likely to raise eyebrows unearths theological justification for post-coital masturbation for women who fail to achieve orgasm during intercourse. Beretta told The Telegraph: "The Church is not against sex. Something needed to be done about the cliches and stereotypes. The Church is not only about forbidding the use of contraception and warning against the sins of the flesh. "In view of the trivialisation of sex and the rise of impotence and frigidity in consequence, as well as the increasing number of only children, it is better for the Church to promote sex in the right circumstances, instead of just focusing on prohibitions and perversions."
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Posted by: tipper || 10/31/2004 12:40:39 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Watch out World - us "Papists" are going to out populate you heathens!
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/31/2004 1:13 Comments || Top||

#2  "Its..."

Third Official: Well most things we do for pleasure nowadays are taxed, except one.

Politician: What do you mean?

Third Official: Well, er, smoking's been taxed, drinking's been taxed but not ... thingy.

Politician: Good Lord, you're not suggesting we should tax... thingy?

First Official: Poo poo's?

Third Official: No.

First Official: Thank God for that. Excuse me for a moment. (leaves)

Third Official: No, no, no - thingy.

Second Official: Number ones?

Third Official: No, thingy.

Politician: Thingy!

Second Official: Ah, thingy. Well it'll certainly make chartered accountancy a much more interesting job.
Posted by: Monty Python || 10/31/2004 1:16 Comments || Top||

#3  MP - Maybe it's about the Road & Bridge fund...
Posted by: .com || 10/31/2004 1:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Sounds good to me. I can onlt watch you guy and gals however.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/31/2004 1:40 Comments || Top||

#5  Hey what more can be said than "It's A Sin Not To Do It." Where do you sign up???
Posted by: John Q. Citizen || 10/31/2004 6:11 Comments || Top||

#6  I love the Pope! Right after church today I will follow his orders as a loyal practicing Catholic. I practice cause I am never going to be right.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/31/2004 9:35 Comments || Top||


Buttiglione Won't Seek EU Justice Post
Posted by: Fred || 10/31/2004 9:42:07 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Fifth Column
Moore keeps close watch on poll
US filmmaker Michael Moore plans to have hundreds of cameras outside polling places in Ohio and Florida on election day to watch for attempts to suppress voter turnout. The director of the anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 announced today that a total of 1200 professional and non-professional cameramen, filmmakers and videographers would take their cameras to polling places in the two presidential battleground states, especially in minority communities. "I'm putting those who intend to suppress the vote on notice: Voter intimidation and suppression will not be tolerated," Moore said.

Moore, who was in Columbus, Ohio for a rally today, planned visits to Ohio and Florida on election day, his publicist Terri Hardesty said. Polls in both states indicate the race between President George W. Bush and Senator John Kerry is too close to call. There have been voting problems already in Florida, where 537 votes tipped the state and the presidency to Bush in 2000. In Ohio, Democrats are fighting Republican attempts to challenge voter registrations.
Posted by: tipper || 10/31/2004 12:16:57 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Any chance the weather will be bad enough to ground his plane?
Posted by: BigEd || 10/31/2004 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Nah - they are using a 747ER with uprated engines and JATO bottles to lift his lard ass.

And I'm all for it - the more places ol' fatboy shows up, the higher the Republican turnout will go.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/31/2004 0:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Mikey Boy showed up all over the latest ObL video.

In fact, it was so banal one wonders whether ObL outsourced the scripting to some low-rent offshore lamebrains in this hemisphere?
Posted by: lex || 10/31/2004 0:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Got an idea: Anyplace Osama Bin Moore sets up his teams, get a coupel fo people with "Michael Moore Lies" or "Farenhype 9-11" (or Bush-Cheney) signs to continually block it with the signs.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/31/2004 0:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Kerry's so unbelievably stupid. Clinton recognized that a Dem has to do at least a couple of Sister Souljahs to the flaming left a**holes who hang around the party fringes, and did so brilliantly. Had Kerry done a Sister Mikey-- specifically, trashed him publicly and repeatedly as a traitor, fool and ObL lackey-- he'd probably be the favorite now. Instead.... Imagine if Clinton had made Sister Souljah a VIP at the 1992 Dem Convention. Unbelievable.

Hillary's silence speaks volumes. No fool she.
Posted by: lex || 10/31/2004 0:48 Comments || Top||

#6  OldSpook:

More importantly - wherever Moore is, get a camera of your own.
Posted by: MrO || 10/31/2004 5:47 Comments || Top||

#7  Where is Dr. Kavorkian when we need him?
Posted by: John Q. Citizen || 10/31/2004 6:17 Comments || Top||

#8  We all feel relieved knowing Double-Fat Moore will be checking for voters with double registrations.
Posted by: JFM || 10/31/2004 9:06 Comments || Top||

#9  If the election goes against his candidate Kerry, Moore will use the polling film to put out another crockumentary casting doubt on the whole US election process.

Is he a traitor yet ?
Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 10/31/2004 9:32 Comments || Top||

#10  "Moore keeps close watch on poll"

Why? Is it edible?
Posted by: .com || 10/31/2004 10:32 Comments || Top||

#11  Moore is sufficiently biased that election officials should be keeping his camera people at least 300 feet from the polls, or whatever the official distance is. I'd also take a look at whether or not he actually targets Republican strongholds, creating a scene out front to deter people from approaching.
Posted by: Tom || 10/31/2004 10:45 Comments || Top||

#12 
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 14:20 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Dems lead Republicans 80-20% in intimidation

This was as of 10/25

Violence directed at Democrats/Democratic establishments:

8/4 (approx.) Democratic HQ sign torn down and stolen (New York) (1 pt)...link
9/1 Vandals smash window at Grand Rapids HQ of Kerry Campaign (Michigan) (2 pts) ...link
9/9 Democratic headquarters vandalized (Texas) (1 pt) ...link
9/17 Vandals target local Democrats' office for 2nd time (Louisiana) (1 pt; see story for reasons behind not giving the second point)...link
10/4 Democratic headquarters vandelized in Lawrence (Kansas) (1 pt)...link
10/6 Republicans block Democrat's car in dispute over awarded ticket (1 pt)...link
10/7 Democratic HQ attacked (North Carolina) (1 pt)...link
10/7 Supporter of Bush takes on group of chanting protesters (2 pts )...link
10/13 Thieves hit Democratic Party offices; computers removed (Ohio) (2 pts)...link
10/13 Carson (Dem candidate)'s office vandalized (Oklahoma) (1 pt)...link
10/27 Vandals Hit Local Democratic Campaign Office (California) (1 pt)...link

Violence directed at Republicans/Republican establishments:

9/2 Few Leads in Shooting at GOP HQ (West Virginia) (10 pts)...link
9/4 Rocks and eggs thrown through window at local GOP HQ, peace signs painted (North Carolina) (1 pt)...link
9/4 GOP headquarters vandalized in political protest (New York) (1 pt)...link
9/14 Murkowski signs, HQ vandalized (Alaska) (1 pt)...link
9/14 Campaign vandalism increases; green swastika painted, cars damaged (Wisconsin) (1 pt)...link link
9/19 Democrat charged with slugging area GOP chief (Florida) (2 pts)...link
9/20 Decorated Soldier Reportedly Attacked At Concert (Ohio) (5 pts)...link. In all fairness, this is not directed at a Republican directly. However, I do think that it is appropriate to report it, and I also can reasonably assume that since the fellow was attacked due to his pro-Iraqi-freedom shirt, it was an anti-war type that attacked him; this platform belongs squarely to the Democrats.
9/23 [humor] If this sign-stealing story is true, it is priceless (0 pts)...link
9/28 Vandals hit local Bush campaign office (Mississippi) (1 pt)...link
9/29 (approx) San Mateo Country Republican HQ windows broken out (California) (1 pt)...email; picture pending.
10/1 Swastika Burned into Grass on Bush-Cheney Supporter's Lawn (Wisconsin) (1 pt) ...link
10/1 Vandals spray paint crude anti-Bush messages on cars (Oregon) (1 pt)...link
10/1 Republican campaign signs burned, danger of fire to house (Maryland) (1 pt)...link
10/4 The story of the Bush-whacking Granny (New York) (1 pt)...link link
10/3 Republican HQ in Gettysburg vandalized (Pennsylvania) (1 pt)...link
10/5 Protesters ransack Bush/Cheney HQ in Orlando (Florida) (5 pts) ...link
10/5 Shots fired at Knoxville Bush-Cheney office; no one hurt (Tennessee) (9 pts) ...link
10/6 Protesters storm GOP Victory Center in West Allis (Wisconsin) (3 pts) ...link
10/6 Protesters raise a ruckus at GOP office (Minnesota) (2 pts)...link
10/6 Protestors storm into GOP office in Dearborn (Michigan) (2 pts)...link
10/7 Risely Receives More Death Threats (California) (1 pt)...link
10/9 Candidate's Campaign Office Vandalized (New York) (1 pt)...link
10/9 GOP office sign damaged by vandals (Illinois) (1 pt)...link
10/9 Escambia Country Republican HQ targeted by vandals (Florida) (1 pt)...link
10/11 Bush's campaign office in Spokane burglarized, vandalized (Washington) (2 pts)...link
10/12 Car window smashed in response to provacative sign (Washington) (1 pt)...link
10/12 Campaign office burgled Sunday (Ohio) (2 pts)...link
10/16 Teens confess to vandalizing campaign signs, also painted swastika at residence (Minnesota) (1 pt)...link
10/18 Vandals Hit Huntsman Campaign HQ (Utah) (2 pts)...link
10/21 Windows smashed at Bush Campaign HQ (Oregon) (1 pt)...link
10/2 3 computers stolen from Bush's Bellevue office (Washington) (2 pts)...link
10/23 Bush/Cheney headquarters robbed (Ohio) (1 pt)...link
10/22 Pies thrown at Ann Coulter...link (3 pts)
10/23 Flagstaff GOP office vandalized (Arizona) (1 pt)...link
10/27 Man attempts to run down Katherine Harris with a car (4 pts)...link
10/29 Altercation At Republican Headquarters Injures 2 (4 pts)...link

Posted by: mhw || 10/31/2004 1:10:28 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's in our blood.
Posted by: Bob Byrd || 10/31/2004 13:45 Comments || Top||

#2  I think you mean ATTEMPTS at intimidation. We ain't afeard of no Democrats.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 10/31/2004 14:18 Comments || Top||

#3  whitecollar redneck, it's "ain't skeered".
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/31/2004 16:06 Comments || Top||

#4  You folks shore do talk purdy where ya'll are from Deacon.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 10/31/2004 17:39 Comments || Top||


Kerry UnEndorsements (Sure Kerry sucks, but we HATE Bush)
Posted by: .com || 10/31/2004 12:51 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Talk about buyer's remorse!
Posted by: Raj || 10/31/2004 13:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Timothy Noah, Slate: "John Kerry is the least appealing candidate the Democrats have nominated for president in my lifetime."

No shit, Sherlock.

You know, if these idiots weren't an outright menace to our survival I'd feel sorry for them.
Posted by: Dave D. || 10/31/2004 13:53 Comments || Top||

#3  The last time we had an election where the Democrats offered a loser candidate, we ended up with Jimmy Carter. We may end up there again. This time, during wartime.
Posted by: Capt America || 10/31/2004 21:57 Comments || Top||


Chris Heinz Kerry - "Bush a Cokehead"
Enjoy - this was on polipundit, Kerry Spot, Powerline, etc. etc. - big news for a big mouth a-hole
THIS campaign is ending just in time before someone gets hurt. John Kerry's stepson, Chris Heinz, 31, displayed his mother Teresa's famous lack of rhetorical restraint at a recent campaign event with a group of Wharton students. Philadelphia magazine reports: "Heinz accused Kerry's opponents - 'our enemies' - of making the race dirty. 'We didn't start out with negative ads calling George Bush a cokehead,' he said, before adding, 'I'll do it now.' Asked later about it, Heinz said, 'I have no evidence. He never sold me anything.'" Heinz also reminded writer Sasha Issenberg of Pat Buchanan by saying, "One of the things I've noticed is the Israel lobby - the treatment of Israel as the 51st state, sort of a swing state." Buchanan was blasted as an anti-Semite years ago when he cited Israel's "amen corner" in Congress.

Ahhhh, yes, that "shitty little country"? This loser didn't fall far from Mama T's tree, did he?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/31/2004 11:56:48 AM || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Heinz accused Kerry’s opponents - ’our enemies’ - of making the race dirty."

The Democrats' campaign has been nothing **BUT** dirt and lies, right from the git-go. We've had nothing but lies from them for four and a half years, with about a 60-day hudna right after 9/11.

The Democrats have become the Party of Lies and the Party of Hatred-- a mob of bigoted, ignorant misfits.
Posted by: Dave D. || 10/31/2004 13:47 Comments || Top||

#2  "He never sold me anything."

Does this mean Chris Heinz uses coke?

I hope the American people are really listening to what is being said by the Demon-crats! Do they really want Theresa Heinz Kerry to be the first lady(?) and Chris Heinz to be the first (second or third) son?

Party of evil. Party of lies. Coalition of the whining and shrill. Party of the "end justifies the means!"
Posted by: John Q. Citizen || 10/31/2004 14:21 Comments || Top||


Kerry’s Other than Honorable Discharge
OldSpook - Here's your 61st minute (EFL):

There is overwhelming evidence that the Navy gave John Kerry either a dishonorable discharge or an undesirable discharge — which is the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge without the felony conviction — and that, as a result of such discharge, he was stripped of all of his famous but questionable Navy awards and medals. And the kicker? The evidence is on his website!
Posted by: AzCat || 10/31/2004 9:20:59 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Question is, is this rumor true:

The SwiftVets have a person who will publicly back this accusation, a person who was in authority to either restore the discharge (and knew it to be originally OTH for traitorous behavior), or who issued the original one, or who was responsible for the re-issue of the medals that were stripped from Kerry.

If they have such a person, combined with the evidence out there, then it would be very damning:

Kerry would be exposed as a traitor, and somone who "gamed the system" to get the discharge and medals that he wanted, then used those results in his campaign in an effoprt to decieve voters of the true nature of his service.

I hope that if this is true, it comes to light today. Now. And that the SV's (or whomever - but NOT the Bush campaign) run a commercial about it all over the place.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/31/2004 11:22 Comments || Top||

#2  If it was an OTH, the chances of getting it upgraded were pretty good back then.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/31/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#3  too little, too late. Kerry's support is antiBush, not proKerry, and this won't change it. It would, however, be nice to confirm this after the election just to demonstrate the MSM's absolute willful abdication of fairness and independent judgement in not investigating Kerry's record. Drive another nail in their coffin
Posted by: Frank G || 10/31/2004 11:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Agree on the MSM Frank but I do disagree on the potential impact. There are a bunch of swing states out there that look like dead heats and if this story were to break, even as late as tomorrow evening, it could swing a few dozen votes here and there and that might well be enough to change the outcome of this election.
Posted by: AzCat || 10/31/2004 12:42 Comments || Top||

#5  I think Hawaii's large military population would find this interesting, as just one example which could translate into EV's...
Posted by: .com || 10/31/2004 12:54 Comments || Top||

#6  I sort of agree with Frank.

If the OTH discharge is true, it should have come out years ago to prevent this turkey from inhabiting the Senate all these years.
Posted by: mhw || 10/31/2004 12:59 Comments || Top||

#7  Frank's right, it might help a little but not an election winner.... way too late, even if it's true.

Although if it is true it might be a term killer.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/31/2004 13:28 Comments || Top||

#8 
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#9  You can't 'strip' a person of service awards they have earned. They can demote you but once you earn an award it's always yours. I would love it if there was evidence that Kerry got a BD or OTHD but I haven't seen or heard anything to convince me of this. And yes I am a Bush supporter and I already voted for him.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/31/2004 14:41 Comments || Top||

#10  I'm not so certain , Sarge. If a person gets a dishonorable or less than honorable discharge I'm pretty sure honors and medals are revoked. I could be wrong, but that is what I was taught back in the 60's.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/31/2004 16:00 Comments || Top||

#11  I'm not so certain , Sarge. If a person gets a dishonorable or less than honorable discharge I'm pretty sure honors and medals are revoked. I could be wrong, but that is what I was taught back in the 60's.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/31/2004 16:01 Comments || Top||

#12  CS, I think I just read on Beldar Blog (maybe Captains Quarters) that Deacon is correct. That is why Kerry had his discharge redone after Jimmah came into office. Then, when sKerry became a Senator, he got his medals back.
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 10/31/2004 16:13 Comments || Top||

#13  I am noit 100% sure, more like 99% that once you are awarded a medal they don't take it away from you. Usually the Article 15 paperwork will read that you are reduced to such and such rank and forfietture of pay and allowances. I say article 15 because I don't think they can cover up a Courts martial for this long. I knew of a E-4 that was awarded a Comedation medal one month and then busted for dealing drugs the next. He was convicted and sentenced to seven years hard labor, reduction to E-1, forfieture of all pay/allowances, and a dishonorable discharge. Never mentioned that they took his Comandation Medal away or any other awards. Also knew of a O-4 convicted of assault with intent. Convicted and sentenced but no mention of revoking awards. Both were very guilty. I imagine if the awards were the reason for the DD or OTHD then they would be revoked. Otherwise you get to keep the shiny medal things.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/31/2004 16:56 Comments || Top||

#14  4 MORE YEARS !!!! 4 MORE YEARS KILLING TERRORISTS !!
Posted by: borgboy || 10/31/2004 16:58 Comments || Top||

#15  sniff, sniff...what's that sniffing sound? Bush snorting coke? No...it's the American public sniffing that unmistakable smell of desperation in the Kerry campaign.
Posted by: 2b || 10/31/2004 18:22 Comments || Top||

#16  oh darn, meant to post that under Heinz Jr calling bush a cokehead. ah.well..joke is lost.
Posted by: 2b || 10/31/2004 18:24 Comments || Top||

#17  Actually the regulation says "character of service", meaning there are circumstances that can be grounds for revocation of medals. If the case for OTHD are true, they should not have a bearing on the medals since they were awarded for actions in combat. The OTHD would have been for his meetings in Paris.
Posted by: TopMac || 10/31/2004 20:17 Comments || Top||

#18  Cybersarge, thats the difference bertwen an Article 15 and a discharge. The grade of the discharge can affect medals. Surely you've heard the old saying that one "Aw Sh*t" cancels 100 "Attaboys".
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/31/2004 22:11 Comments || Top||

#19  sKerry has some explaining to do, that's for sure. If he was truly dishonorably discharged, or discharged under other than honorable conditions, he just lost even that small 20+% of the military vote he was hoping to get. Unfortunately, it's too late for a lot of folks, because they've either already voted (just another example why that's a stupid idea), or they had to vote by absentee, and their votes are already in the mail.
CyberSarge - an Article 15 is non-judicial punishment. Got one myself for beating the crap out of another airman back in 1966. It doesn't affect anything, and disappears as soon as you leave that duty station. A court-martial is another matter entirely. The findings of a court martial stay with you forever, even if you're acquitted. That's probably why Kerry has no intention of letting anyone see his Navy records - several truckloads of dirt would come to light. Kerry's ability to show the world an "honorable discharge" is another reason to wish to beat the crap out of a former peanut-brained president. I have more respect for any of the people that refused to go into the service for legitimate reasons than I do for the folks that ran away to Canada, and even they rate several ladder-lengths above John notFonda sKerry.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/31/2004 22:31 Comments || Top||


Lawyer: Man accused of Harris threat didn't know she was there
A man charged with assault for allegedly driving toward U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris and her campaign supporters did not know the former Florida secretary of state was in the group, his attorney said.
Then who was he intimidating?
Barry Seltzer, 46, was being held at Sarasota County Jail on $500,000 bail until at least Monday, when his lawyers said they would try to get his bond lowered. Seltzer told police he was exercising "political expression" when he aimed his car at Harris and a group of backers on Tuesday. He swerved onto the sidewalk; no one was hurt. "From our investigation, it appears that our client did not know that she was even there," said attorney David Haenel.

Seltzer acknowledged to police that he "intimidated them with my car," and added, "I scared them a little." Harris, a Sarasota Republican who is nationally known for her pivotal role in the 2000 presidential election, told police she feared for her life and couldn't move as the vehicle sped toward her. She won a seat in Congress in 2002 and faces Jan Schneider, who lost to Harris two years ago, in her re-election campaign.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/31/2004 12:38:20 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Like this is an excuse for trying to run people over? Let me guess, his mommy beat him with coat hangers and his daddy made him live in the closet? If ignorance of the law is no excuse, then neither is insanity or anything else. The facts are that he drove up onto a sidewalk after people. Who they are and what party they are doesn't matter.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 10/31/2004 8:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Couldn't make bail, eh? Loks like the bondsmen know a cuckoo when they hear one. Hope he likes the accomodations.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/31/2004 8:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Why would he try to intimidate random people? What political opinion does that express? (Note: stupidity is not yet a commonly accepted political opinion.)
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/31/2004 10:32 Comments || Top||

#4  tw - But it has found a home. :-)
Posted by: .com || 10/31/2004 10:39 Comments || Top||

#5  Three hots and a cot. Barry Selzer just eliminated the possibility of homelessness. Good thinking, Barry.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/31/2004 14:11 Comments || Top||


The bets are in - Bush to win
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 10/31/2004 00:29 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Watch the odds change massively when Soros drops a millions on the punters just to job the odds, and Soros wants them 2-1 against Bush, 1 to 5 Kerry.

If he does that, I'm going to find a way to get a $1000 bet in on that if I can. I'll take Soros money, no problem.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/31/2004 0:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Bush by at least 5, probably 6, in the popular vote; at least 290, probably 300, electoral votes.

The polls are BS. They fail to capture the most likely voters of all: busy professionals who never answer their home phones. By trying to adjust their poll samples acc to party registration figures, Zogby et al compound the original sampling error. It's precisely these well-educated, affluent voters who, if Democrats, are likely to break from the Dem party and vote for Bush. Quietly, very quietly, of course.
Posted by: lex || 10/31/2004 0:43 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd like to think it will be Bush 53 (295 EV), Kerry 46 (243 EV), but I'm really concerned about 1) the Dem base and 2) the Dem willingness to steal this election. Those lawyers are pre-paid and they're going to cause trouble.

We simply don't know the turnout. Will the estimated 4 million evangelicals who stayed home in 2000 (so says Karl Rove) come out and vote this time? What about all the new registrations? And the fraud?

What I do know is that if this election gets dragged into the gutter it's really going to hurt our Republic. I don't see Kerry has having any honor at all, and if this is close he's going to try everything he can to steal it.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/31/2004 1:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Sorry but I've never seen the Dem base turn out in greater numbers than the Repub base. The Dems talk a good game, but the simple fact is that kids don't vote, inner-city blacks don't vote, and the Dem constituencies that have the highest turnout-- jewish liberals and moderates-- are likely to have a far higher defection rate this year than any year since 1972, when ~35% voted against McGovern.

Kerry is an unreconstructed McGovern-Carter peacenik idiotarian. I cannot see him retaining more than 60% of the jewish vote. Fatal in Florida and deeply damaging in Pennsylvania and Ohio.
Posted by: lex || 10/31/2004 1:35 Comments || Top||

#5  Jay Cost of one of the best of the pollster-blogs, horserace (jaycost.blogspot.com), agrees:

Anytime you see a candidate's partisans start talking up "unprecedented" turnot, you know that the candidate is in bad shape. Why? Because it never, ever, ever pans out. The last candidate to talk up unprecedented turnout was Howard Dean in IA. And we all know how well that went for him
Posted by: lex || 10/31/2004 1:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Steve, the alarming, rising numbers of vicious pre-planned attacks on GOP/Bush HQ's across the country, plus bold acts of ballot fraud & voter bullying republicans voters has taken on distinct overtones of organized gangland style warfare.

The radical Dem leadership is acting as though no matter the election results and I believe your tally is in the realistic ballpark, but even if Bush were to garnish over 60% they will still demand recounts and flood federal & state counts with incredible volumes of tactical legal action. For this leftist elite and their willing, hired Brownshirts, their only war is against anyone who does not tow the party line.

I firmly believe if they possessed the power it would be coup time, instead of election time.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 2:07 Comments || Top||

#7  I've maintained that Bush will not be re-elected for a quite a while now. Iraq did not go exactly as planned, and unfortunately we are outnumbered by moonbats. It will be a close one, but it's going to be President Kerry. Damn it.
Posted by: Resident Pessimist || 10/31/2004 9:32 Comments || Top||

#8  RP, I would agree but what has Kerry offered to people who are not rabid LLL? Not much except a list of complaints. There is going to be a huge turnout, it will be close, but Bush will win. Of course the Dems will want to challenge several results and lose those battles too (again).
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/31/2004 9:45 Comments || Top||

#9 
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 15:40 Comments || Top||

#10  I recently commented to a Republican friend that the only way Kerry could win would be if the Democrats sweep up enough schleppers from the streets to turn the tide...
Posted by: borgboy || 10/31/2004 16:51 Comments || Top||

#11  I Think that the time has come for everyone to think with their own brains - why worship some fake god who never existed, except for in your own small brainwashed minds - Religion is a joke
Posted by: borgboy || 10/31/2004 16:54 Comments || Top||

#12  Post a comment on the wrong thread, borgboy? If not: Huh?

I hope that, after Bush wins, the Justice Department seriously goes after and prosecutes the Dem's standard, massive voter fraud.

If enough of these clowns end up in prison with Big Bubba for a roommate, they might rethink their behavior.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/31/2004 20:25 Comments || Top||

#13  Phoney borgboy post - remember his style? Not there. Must be 8-10 of these troll turds pretending to be our borgboy.
Posted by: .com || 10/31/2004 20:57 Comments || Top||

#14  Nice atheist, back on the meds. Doctor will see you tomorrow morning to talk to you about your anger problem.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/31/2004 22:12 Comments || Top||


Kerry: Bush outsourced bin Laden video production
ScrappleFace
(2004-10-30) -- Just hours after the release of a videotape featuring revered Muslim leader Usama bin Laden lecturing on theology, Democrat presidential hopeful John Forbes Kerry slammed President George Bush for encouraging the outsourcing of such video productions to overseas media companies.

"Here we have the most highly-watched video production of the year and yet, as far as we know, not a single American director, screenwriter, producer, best boy, gaffer or key grip made a single dollar from it," said Mr. Kerry. "And they didn't make it here because this administration provides incentives to take this kind of work overseas. When I'm president, we're going to bring it back home to the USA."

Meanwhile, in Hollywood, pundits mused about how the new Bin Laden video will affect Michael Moore's chances for the Best Picture Oscar.

One unnamed industry insider summarized the issue this way: "You've got two big stars going head to head--or ballcap to turban, as it were--with films that basically make the same point. America loves Michael Moore, but the Academy loves to see positive portrayals of religion. The Oscar could go either way."
Posted by: Korora || 10/31/2004 12:28:32 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder if the blathering Blob will pick up an Oscar? Knowing Hollywood he may receive two, one from the Academy and the other from Osama.


Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 1:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Scrap's got it backwards: it was Osama who outsourced his scripting to Mikey Boy.

ObL's gone from apocalyptic grand strategizing and ornate classical arab rhetoric to "my pet goat" tomfoolery and McAuliffe-isms. Clearly the handiwork of Mikey or a consortium of DU hacks.
Posted by: lex || 10/31/2004 1:12 Comments || Top||

#3 


Mark E. : Mr Creosote (M PYTHON'S MEANING OF LIFE)
& Michael Moore - Seperated at birth?
Posted by: BigEd || 10/31/2004 1:21 Comments || Top||

#4 
With more flying down to do battle
Judge
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 2:23 Comments || Top||

#5  Mr Creosote

I remember that guy.
Phuque you, I'm full!!
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/31/2004 3:29 Comments || Top||

#6  Big Ed you will like this one and so will Mr. Creosote Smile
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 6:00 Comments || Top||


The Manchurian Candidate
EFL
One of three newly discovered Vietnam War documents shows Hanoi's communist regime encouraged the U.S. anti-war movement's new strategy in the early 1970s of urging members to run for public office, a path John Kerry took when he vied for a congressional seat in 1972.

Hanoi said it maintained "relations" with an anti-war group closely tied to Kerry that sought "to eliminate reactionary candidates and plant progressive people in the Senate and House of Representatives," according to a "circular" issued in December 1971 and captured by U.S. troops the following May.
Posted by: AzCat || 10/31/2004 12:05:53 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Add to that the "Other Than Honorable" truth about Kerry that is supposedly coming out Sunday Night in the 61st minute...
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/31/2004 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  61st minute?

What's that?
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 10/31/2004 0:46 Comments || Top||

#3  The minute that comes after 60 minutes.

Here is a preview of 60 Minutes "Big October Surprise" tonight:

Man: I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition.

(JARRING CHORD - The cardinals burst in)

Cardinal Rather Ximinez: NOBODY expects the Sixty Minutes October Surprise Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is suprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless lying efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless lying efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Kerry Campaign Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again. (Exit and exeunt)

Man: I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition.

(JARRING CHORD - The cardinals burst in)

Cardinal Rather Ximinez: NOBODY expects the Sixty Minutes October Surprise Spanish Inquisition! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless lying efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Kerry Campaign Pope, and our access to the poor sods that dont have cable nice red uniforms - Oh damn! (To Cardinal Mapes Biggles) I can't say it - you'll have to say it.

Mapes Biggles: What?

Rather Ximinez: You'll have to say the bit about 'Our chief weapons are ...'
Posted by: Monty Python || 10/31/2004 1:39 Comments || Top||

#4  OS is that scepticism that there will be a 61st minute or that the is an OTH?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/31/2004 9:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Kerry is The VC: Vietnamese Candidate.

Note that over the last 35 years he has aimed all of his votes and statements to support communist dictatorships against America. That is the ONE principle in that creature.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 10/31/2004 14:19 Comments || Top||

#6  #3 You made my day! Thanks!
___________________________borgboy
Posted by: borgboy || 10/31/2004 16:43 Comments || Top||

#7  Re #1 good call re "61st" minute. Elements of the supernatural reminicent of "The Fuhrer's" pledge to achieve redemption for the German people at " 5 minutes past midnight"...
Posted by: borgboy || 10/31/2004 16:47 Comments || Top||

#8  I Think the time has come for everyone to think with their own brains & Say "FUCK RELIGION" - science proves religion false - the bible + q'uaran & other books contain hundreds of contradictions and scientific errors. Fuck Your False Gods
Posted by: borgboy || 10/31/2004 16:56 Comments || Top||

#9  #8 Yer not borgboy ye'd better skeedadle 'fore I call Fred.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 10/31/2004 18:44 Comments || Top||

#10  Someone needs to come scrub the crud out of here.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/31/2004 22:06 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Nobel physicist has flesh-eating disease
BOULDER, CO, Oct. 31 (UPI) -- Nobel Prize-winning physicist and University of Colorado adjutant professor Eric Cornell is reportedly suffering from a rare "flesh-eating" bacterial disease.

The Denver Post said Sunday Cornell is in critical condition after becoming ill last week with necrotizing fasciitis -- an infection caused by bacteria that typically causes strep throat.

Cornell's "condition is treated with aggressive surgery to stop the spread of the bacteria," said a statement from his family.

Cornell, a senior scientist at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, received the Nobel Prize in physics in 2001 with Colorado University Professor Carl Wieman for leading a team in the creation of the world's first Bose-Einstein condensate in 1995. That new form of matter allows scientists to study the small world of quantum physics.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 2:33:42 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Aggressive surgery" sounds like amputation, My brother was in a similar condition 10 years ago. Luckily the antibiotics worked, otherwise he would have lost a leg.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 10/31/2004 20:22 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Expediency Council calls for selling shares of enterprises at Stock Exchange
IRNA -- The Expediency Council on Saturday announced new decisions to implement the privatization drive and ceding economic affairs to the private sector. So far, the Expediency Council made public its decision to revise articles 43 and 44 of the Constitution which had called for monopoly of the state over economic affairs. The Management and Planning Organization (MPO) has drawn up a 20-year strategy for economic, social and cultural development which is implementable only through privatization. The Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei forwarded the 20-year perspective to the three branches of the government to take effect from 2005 to 2025.
Wonder if they'll follow the Russian model and let the apparatchiks buy everything at cut-rate prices?
The Expediency Council assigned the government to adopt transparent mechanisms for ceding economic affairs to the public citing the stock exchange mechanism in order to, what the body said, `provide the public with equal opportunity`. "Shares of the big enterprises should be ceded to the public through the stock exchange and the cooperatives enjoy preference to the private sector," the Expediency Council said. The proceeds coming from the sale of the enterprises should be deposited in the State Treasury to be channeled to the infrastructural projects, the top decision making body said.
Posted by: Fred || 10/31/2004 12:03:02 AM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fred, I think you've got the jist of it. It's not about economic liberalization, it's about creating blackhat Mullah oligarchs.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 10/31/2004 7:11 Comments || Top||

#2  The mullahs are dirty barbarians who deserve no respect, no help ,they get what they have contributed to humanity ................... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 10/31/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#3  What the hell...
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 10/31/2004 18:10 Comments || Top||

#4  I believe that was Boris, masquerading as you, to get through the troll filter.
Posted by: Fred || 10/31/2004 18:33 Comments || Top||

#5  Registration time.
Posted by: .com || 10/31/2004 18:39 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Economy
Time to turn clocks back
It's the end of Daylight Saving Time, as the country sets its clocks back an hour to Standard Time at 2 a.m. Sunday.

Originally used during both World Wars, Daylight Saving Time was formally established in the United States with the Uniform Time Act of 1966. In 1986, the Act was amended to begin Daylight Savings Time on the first Sunday of April and end on the last Sunday of October. ``If we did not go on Daylight Saving Time, sunrise in the summer would be at 4:30 in the morning,'' Geoff Chester, the public affairs Officer at the U.S. Naval Observatory said.

Daylight Saving Time is officially monitored by the Department of Transportation.

Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 4:22:07 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not here in Arizona! Last thing we need here is more sunlight...
Posted by: borgboy || 10/31/2004 16:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Another phoney borgboy post...
Posted by: .com || 10/31/2004 20:55 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Tolerant Teacher Kicks Student Wearing GOP Shirt
Ah, the Tolerant Left. Via FARK.
DURANGO, Colo. -- A part-time college instructor has apologized for kicking a student wearing a Republican sweatshirt in an off-campus incident. Fort Lewis College student Mark O'Donnell said he was showing people his College Republicans sweatshirt, which said "Work for us now ... or work for us later," when Maria Spero kicked him. After kicking him, Spero said "she should have kicked me harder and higher," said O'Donnell. In a police report, O'Donnell said Spero kicked him in the right calf.

Durango Police Sgt. Mitch Higgins said Saturday that O'Donnell wanted to press charges against Spero and a misdemeanor summons would be issued. "To physically take that out on someone because you disagree with them, that is completely wrong," said O'Donnell.

David Eppich, assistant to the president of the college, said the college has formally apologized for the incident. He said an investigation indicated Spero, a visiting instructor of modern languages, did not know O'Donnell was a student and she has apologized.
It would have been okay if he hadn't been a student?
"I acted entirely like a beturbaned fool inappropriately by kicking you, giving vent to a thoughtless knee-jerk political reaction that should never have happened. I apologize for my untoward comments. Before the incident, I did not know you and that you are a Fort Lewis student. I am entirely sorry. I am ashamed of my behavior, and I hope you will accept my apology," Spero said in a letter to O'Donnell dated Oct. 29. O'Donnell said the apology wasn't enough, and he planned to file a complaint with the college.
Civil lawsuit (fuck you - pay me!) in two weeks...
"I just think that students are held accountable for how they act and what they do in town. They can have actions brought against them. It is imperative that professors should be held accountable for their actions in town and on campus," he said.

The only phone number listed in Durango for the surname Spero was constantly engaged Saturday.
I'd say 'phone was off the hook' is a more accurate description.
Posted by: Raj || 10/31/2004 10:12:29 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  press charges and get this bitch off the public payroll.
Posted by: Frank G || 10/31/2004 10:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe it's called a "knee-jerk reaction" in Colorado; in Virginia it's called ASSAULT AND BATTERY.

Press charges on the bitch.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/31/2004 13:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Which "modern language" is she teaching?

French?
Spanish?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 10/31/2004 14:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Spanish: Maria Spero is a Visiting Instructor of Spanish in the Modern Languages Department at Fort Lewis College. A long-time instructor with the Extended Studies Program, Ms. Spero has been teaching for more than fourteen years and has led many travel study tours to Mexico and Honduras. (source)
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 10/31/2004 14:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Probably be working at the DNC come Monday. I would have bitch-slapped her and then called police. It's called justifiable defense.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/31/2004 14:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Not a very cunning linguist, is she?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/31/2004 15:05 Comments || Top||

#7  I got the oppurtunity to yell and taunt some Kerry supporters holding signs on the main road in town. I was giving them the thumbs down and screaming: "Kerry is a war criminal!" The kids were in the car so I couldn't yell anything better. Boy did that feel good!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/31/2004 17:03 Comments || Top||

#8  4 more years !!!!!!!!! Vote BUSH !!!!!!!!!!!!! Kerry is a pussy !!!!!!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/31/2004 17:04 Comments || Top||

#9  Now that was stupid - she should've gotten somebody with tenure to do it.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/31/2004 19:43 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Tech
US deploys satellite jamming system
The US Air Force quietly has put into service a new weapon designed to jam enemy satellite communications, a significant step toward US control of space. The so-called Counter Communications System was declared operational late last month at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, the Air Force Space Command said on Friday in e-mailed replies to questions from newsmen. The ground-based jammer uses electromagnetic radio frequency energy to knock out transmissions on a temporary and reversible basis, without frying components, the command said. "A reversible effect ensures that during the time of need, the adversary's space-based capability to threaten our forces is diminished," said Capt. Angie Blair, a spokeswoman. "Following the time of need, the space-based capabilities used by the adversary can return to its original state."

The device appears to have been put into service considerably earlier than had been projected by the Air Force as recently as February. At that time, a long-range planning document, dubbed the Transformation Flight Plan, said such a system would let the United States by 2010 "deny and disrupt an adversary's space-based communications and early warning" of attack.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 10/31/2004 6:17:02 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can they direct this thing toward Michael Moore?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/31/2004 6:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Hah! - they only *said* it wouldn't be ready until 2010! ;)
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 10/31/2004 8:08 Comments || Top||

#3  This sounds largish, big even, perhaps even a war winner at some point.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/31/2004 10:44 Comments || Top||

#4  It's for satellites, Mrs. D, not blimps.
Posted by: Tom || 10/31/2004 10:46 Comments || Top||

#5  And ours are jam-proof..... right?

Unknown AF general looking at U-2 photos during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

"Morons, they're wingtip to wingtip"

UnKnown Photo Analyst (probably OP)
"General, that's Homestead"
Posted by: Shipman || 10/31/2004 10:50 Comments || Top||

#6  "And the mind control satellites, which we don't have and aren't working on, won't be ready till at least 2073."
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 10/31/2004 11:35 Comments || Top||

#7  I'd much rather see our military devote itself to jamming (read: reduce to smoldering ashes) all of al Jazeera's broadcast and transmission facilities.

Pursuit of satellite jamming capabilities is a two-edged sword. All such "Space Denial" strategies promise a mixed bag of results. Recent discussions on Capitol Hill and in the Pentagon of denying all LEO (Low Earth Orbit) access to enemies and allies alike could only have enraged our international comrades and increased our enemies' emphasis on aerospace development. Witness the nascent Chinese and Japanese space programs.

A good comparison is our nuclear weapons program. Through nonproliferation treaties and the like we have sought to suppress the distribution of nuclear materials and technology. Such a policy is only of use if it is actively enforced. Any lapse in vigorous prosecution can yield disastrous results. Witness North Korea. By imposing demands for nuclear build-down without asserting the military muscle to guarantee it, the opposite results were obtained. America's determination to prohibit nuclear access instead encouraged North Korea to acquire nuclear capability in the most speedy fashion possible.

So it is with satellite jamming technology. LEO vehicles now represent a crucial asset to the precise and advantageous deployment of America's military might. Reliance upon space based capabilities is not a new thing either. During the Cold War, such dependency resulted in a period of increased danger, rather than any cessation of threat. Both sides had become nigh well addicted to orbital monitoring of ICBM launch sites as part of a "launch on warning" school of nuclear strategy.

Had any accidental or third party intervention caused the sudden or catastrophic loss of satellite imaging and detection, America (or the Soviet Union) would almost have been compelled to authorize a massive ICBM launch, solely on the basis of "use 'em or lose 'em" strategy. More recent development of phased array "over-the-horizon" radar and other collateral assets has decreased our dependency upon satellite monitoring, but the advent of GPS and other space based communications technology has not served to decrease the key role these orbital vehicles play in our military's arsenal.

Just as slack enforcement of nonproliferation policy may have exacerbated rogue nation pursuit of nuclear capability, this new capability for jamming of satellite assets may encourage both friend and foe alike to obtain similar countermeasures. America cannot exclusively rely upon its technological supremacy as an antidote to any vulnerability. The threat of nuclear terrorism should stand as adequate proof of this.

Nearly every essential technology routinely undergoes downward cost scaling that eventually brings the same assets into the hands of those who could not have ever developed such capabilities on their own. While denial of strategic space based military components represents a substantial increase in advantage, we have also unlocked another Pandora's box of spiraling "measures-and-countermeasures." This is one capability that might have been better not to tout quite so loudly. Any competent opponent can only take this as the starting gun for parallel development programs.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/31/2004 11:39 Comments || Top||

#8  Z, what LEO assets are you refering to? Iridium? Most mil sats are at higher altitude.
Posted by: V is for Victory || 10/31/2004 14:27 Comments || Top||

#9  V, some of our IMINT (Image Intelligence) birds use low orbits. They are relatively mission critical to our military.

When detailed reports of geographical areas, military installations and activities, troop positions, or other picture-based intelligence are required, policy-makers and analysts turn to data provided by IMINT (Image Intelligence) satellites. Operating in low, near-polar orbits at an altitude of between 500 and 3,000 kilometers, and maintaining the same orbit around the Earth, they make about 14 revolutions per day. IMINT satellites use either photo-optic, electro-optic infrared, or radar technology to scan a new swath of ground with each orbit.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/31/2004 14:56 Comments || Top||

#10  This is in response to EU Galileo Project. Galileo is meant to be alternative to US GPS system,w/some 30 satellites and a 2008 date. The system while being promoted as commercial will have significant military uses and China has recently bought in. A recent conference between US and EU ended w/US asking if EU would prevent system being used against US military. EU said no,whereupon USAF General attending conference announced in event Galileo was used against US forces,US would try to jam first,and if that failed,would attempt to destroy satellites. This announcement of US jamming ability may be attempt to get Galileo canceled-if US will jam,why spend money on system that won't work.
Posted by: Stephen || 10/31/2004 16:37 Comments || Top||

#11  Ahhh dont worry about those smelly unshaved european trash
Posted by: borgboy || 10/31/2004 16:58 Comments || Top||

#12  I am by no means an expert on this topic, but it would appear to me that spoofing the signal would be more productive than jammimg. With jammimg you know when it aint working whereas with spoofing you are never sure if it is working or not.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/31/2004 18:47 Comments || Top||

#13  phil, I hope the correct answer is all of the above and some you haven't thought of. We have probably got enough experience with anomalous performance in our own to psych theirs out.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/31/2004 18:51 Comments || Top||

#14  and another phoney borboy post...
Posted by: .com || 10/31/2004 19:04 Comments || Top||

#15  Fallujah stand-off enters 'final phase'


The stand-off between the interim Iraqi Government and insurgents in the rebel city of Fallujah has entered its "final phase," Iraq's interim prime minister Iyad Allawi has said, warning of imminent military action.

The Prime Minister laid out three conditions that would spare Fallujah a military showdown, insisting that the Government was not negotiating or bargaining with any party over its legitimate right to assert its authority in the flashpoint city.

"We have entered the final phase to solve the Fallujah problem," Mr Allawi told reporters.

"If we cannot solve it peacefully, I have no choice but to take military action. I will do so with a heavy heart."

Mr Allawi said he met on Saturday night with religious and tribal leaders from the Sunni Muslim insurgency bastions of Fallujah and Ramadi, west of Baghdad, and from the northern city of Mosul.

He said all wanted the Government to assert its authority in these hot spots.

"Terrorists have taken the people of Fallujah hostage and we are determined to eliminate this terror centre," he said.

The Prime Minister's conditions include the exit of foreign fighters and insurgents, the hand over of heavy and medium-sized weapons and allowing the Government to begin the reconstruction process in these cities.

"The people of Fallujah can hand over the foreign fighters and insurgents, kick them out or allow Iraqi forces to go in and do the job," said Mr Allawi flanked by Kassim Daoud, his national security adviser.

Mr Allawi became visibly upset when pressed about the status of negotiations between a Government-backed group from the country's interim Parliament and delegates from Fallujah.

"Your question is wrong, there are no negotiations with Fallujah. Fallujah is part of Iraq and we are working with the people of Fallujah and other nationalists all over Iraq to rid them of the killers," snapped Mr Allawi.

"We cannot stand by while killers slaughter innocent Iraqis."

The talks between national council members and Fallujah community leaders appear to be a last ditch effort to avert a military showdown.

"We will put our hand in their hand if they really have the influence to solve the problem peacefully," Mr Allawi said.

"But the window is closing for a peaceful settlement."

Previous direct talks between Government ministers and Fallujah delegates collapsed in mid-October after Mr Allawi issued a warning to the city to hand over suspected Al Qaeda leader in Iraq Abu Musab al-Zarqawi or face an assault.

"The Iraqi Government is still holding the olive branch ... but there will be no dialogue with Zarqawi, [Osama] bin Laden and former regime loyalists."

United States troops have encircled Fallujah since October 14 and the military has repeatedly launched air strikes and some limited ground incursions into the troubled city.

Both the Iraqi and US Governments say Fallujah is in the grip of operatives loyal to Jordanian-born Zarqawi, who has a $US25 million bounty for his killing or capture.

Zarqawi is accused of some of the worst attacks in the violence-plagued country over the past few months.

Mr Allawi said some of the deadliest recent attacks in Iraq were plotted and carried out by militants from Fallujah, including the execution one week ago of 49 unarmed army recruits and three of their drivers in eastern Iraq.

He softened remarks made on Tuesday blaming the killings on "gross negligence" by US-led forces and promised to unveil shortly the results of a Government investigation.

"We are facing a ruthless enemy bent on killing us," warned Mr Allawi.
Posted by: Spineshank || 10/31/2004 20:04 Comments || Top||

#16  Of course if you can spoof satellite transmissions you certainly wouldn't want to tell anyone.

OTOH saying you can when you can't has advantages too....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/31/2004 20:06 Comments || Top||

#17  Ship - much before my time. I didn't come on board until 1966. I did have a similar experience with a former US Senator once, though, over the Laotian village of Tchepone. Luckily I had a commander that had the same low opinion of said senator, and I kept my stripes! 8^)

I'll keep the rest of my comments about this thread to myself, just as I'm sure Old Spook and Fred are restraining themselves. None of us wants a long "vacation" in Kansas... If anyone wants to see one person's opinion of US capabilities, read "Deep Black" by William Burrows. He throws up a lot of stuff, and some of it might even be true.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/31/2004 22:10 Comments || Top||


Cassini data on Titan
Scientists say the Cassini spacecraft is sending back evidence that Saturn's planet-size moon Titan has some familiar features, but that it still remains one of the strangest worlds. "In this short time we are beginning to see a few things that we recognize but most of what we see is very alien," Laurence Soderblom, a geophysicist with the U.S. Geological Survey, said Friday. Cassini reached Saturn this summer on a $3.3 billion international mission to study the planet's system for four years. Unlike the airless moons and space rocks that NASA can photograph with startling clarity, Titan, hundreds of millions of miles from Earth, has long stymied scientists because its surface is shrouded by a thick atmosphere of nitrogen and methane. That has forced scientists to create theories about the surface from observations of the hydrocarbon-laced atmosphere. Scientists believe seas or lakes of methane could form as organic compounds fall out of the atmosphere and collect on the surface.

Earlier this week, Cassini sent back radar images that revealed such surface details as a round basin, narrow miles-long linear "streaks," and a cat-shaped region of what could be the moon's theorized lakes of liquid methane and ethane. Soderblom said streaks roughly parallel to the equator resemble features seen on Mars and could be produced by fluids flowing over the surface or by winds. Groove patterns also have been seen in the pictures, perhaps indicating tectonic processes. Soderblom said some patterns are beginning to resemble those on Jupiter's moon Ganymede, Saturn's satellite Enceladus and Neptune's moon Triton. "It's still early yet but things are starting to emerge and make just a minute amount of sense," Soderblom said.
While we continue to explore the 21st century ...
Posted by: Steve White || 10/31/2004 12:40:21 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Compare to the 13 year old Iranian girl who was whipped and is now awaiting a savage stoning death at the hands of the Iranian clerics and their stormtrooper allies.

They are still back in the 1200's. Bombing them into the stone age is a very short trip for those folks.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/31/2004 1:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Oldspook: I think the 1200's would be an improvement; I have a half-cocked theory from time to time that the Islamic world is still suffering the aftereffects of the various Mongol and Morgul invasions, and a lot of the extremism going around today is part of the damage.
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 10/31/2004 1:02 Comments || Top||

#3  I forgot to mention: I've gotten the idea partially from online conversations with John Ringo, and partially from what little I still remember of Russian history from high school.

Anyone ever notice that 90% of the problems in Iraq are being caused by the tribe traditionally used by the outside empires as tribute farmers and proxy rulers?
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 10/31/2004 1:05 Comments || Top||

#4  online conversations with John Ringo

Don't you mean Pope John Paul George Ringo?
Posted by: lex || 10/31/2004 1:15 Comments || Top||

#5  We need to break with tradition and just kill that tribe off then.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/31/2004 1:25 Comments || Top||

#6  No he means John Ringo the military Science Fiction writer. Come to think of it there seems to be a passing resemblence between the Islamic terrorists and the Posleen. You have to read the books to find out.(A Hymn Before Battle, Gust Front, Hell's Faire.)
Posted by: Aussie Mike || 10/31/2004 4:31 Comments || Top||

#7  #7: And the purpose of this is to what, provide information for those who might hack the site?

You can't win with ideas, so you have to try and shut up your opponent? Such tactics are indications of CLS (complete loser syndrom).

Get help.
Posted by: Trub || 10/31/2004 7:27 Comments || Top||

#8  we are beginning to see a few things that we recognize but most of what we see is very alien,

West Virginia is hip to this. They say Titan looks like a primal planet! Sort of like Morgantown on Saturday Night. Get to your churches and pray, pray, pray and remember the Cross you burn might be your own.
Posted by: Bob Byrd || 10/31/2004 13:54 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
Monrovia back under curfew after day of Liberia security talks
MONROVIA : The Liberian capital was again under curfew afternoon for the second day after riots that left five dead, sparked by what many believe are a reprise of ethnic tensions in the war-weary west African state. The riots also renewed concerns about the volume of weapons still in the hands of former fighters just days before a massive UN campaign to disarm Liberia's three warring factions is to wrap up its voluntary phase. Though some 90,000 ex-combattants enrolled in the program ending Sunday, only 26,000 weapons were turned in.
Seems like a few girlie-boys forgot to turn in their rifles.
Government chairman Gyude Bryant, in lifting the curfew imposed Friday at 1400 GMT, blamed the two days of street violence, looting and destruction of property on hooligans. "Investigations carried out up to now show that there were no Muslims or Christians burning churches or mosques but hooligans perpetrating those acts," Bryant said. "Those perpetrators will be identified and arrested."
I think the translation of that is that Chuck's boyz are trying to set the two sides at each other's throats.
Rioting had started late Thursday in the densely populated Paynesville district, punctuated by automatic gunfire as it spread through Monrovia on Friday. Churches, mosques and religious schools were set ablaze by rioters who also upended and torched cars. Looting was rampant. Two prominent Mandingo members of Bryant's transitional government had their houses destroyed in Paynesville in what many fear could be a new flashpoint for conflict pitting the Muslim ethnic group against other, Christian tribes. Mandingos make up the majority of the main rebel Liberians United for Reconciliation and Democracy (LURD), which took arms against Charles Taylor in 1999, two years after he claimed the presidency following his own seven-year rebellion.
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Posted by: Steve White || 10/31/2004 12:09:09 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A recruit obviously, a poorly printed house dress.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/31/2004 13:20 Comments || Top||

#2  HEY! Isn't that Dennis Rodman!???

I'm BAAAACKKKK!!!!!!!!

Sorry for the extended absence, our IM guys have blocked Rantburg under the "No Chat" Rule...

V/R Bodyguard
Posted by: Bodyguard || 10/31/2004 13:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Okay, refresh my memory: WHY with the women's clothes?

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/31/2004 15:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Man what an image. My eyes!
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 10/31/2004 15:35 Comments || Top||

#5  Subsaharan Africa is Haiti writ large.
Posted by: borgboy || 10/31/2004 16:55 Comments || Top||

#6  If I recall correctly, Mike, wearing women's clothing (including certain undergarments) is part of the magic that makes these gents invisible -- especially if their opponents close their eyes.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/31/2004 18:46 Comments || Top||

#7  Or maybe it was impervious to bullets. Anyway, it is very powerful magic.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/31/2004 18:47 Comments || Top||

#8  Not to mention tropical haute couture...
Posted by: .com || 10/31/2004 21:57 Comments || Top||



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