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US drone strikes kill dozens in Somalia
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Africa North
Breaking the Pottery Barn Rule
With the tide starting to turn against Qadhafi, Britain’s secretary for International Development, Andrew Mitchell, recently unveiled a 50-page report planning for a post-Qadhafi Libya that stresses that the existing security architecture of the Qadhafi regime should remain in place. This underscores the view that a future Libya does not need to be a liberal democracy but instead, a return to the old status quo minus Muammar Qadhafi.

In the months leading up to the Iraq invasion in 2003, alluding to the Pottery Barn’s store return policy, Colin Powell warned George W. Bush, “You break it, you own it.” France and Britain, filled with confidence, rushed to intervene in Libya with the vaguely defined mission of assisting the rebels in eastern Libya in their efforts to unseat the Qadhafi regime and its tribal allies in the West. With the United States embracing the “leading from behind” mentality, these two European states, often used to following from behind, have found themselves in the unfamiliar waters of being out front and responsible for charting the future direction of a NATO military operation in Libya.

With the tide starting to turn against Qadhafi, London and Paris have had to come to terms with the uncomfortable reality that, similar to Washington in 2003, while the military battle can be eventually won, rebuilding a state is an entirely different manner.
Posted by: tipper || 07/08/2011 12:40 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  With the tide starting to turn against Qadhafi

It's difficult to keep in mind how divorced from reality these people are.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 07/08/2011 14:29 Comments || Top||

#2  With the United States embracing the “leading from behind” mentality, these two European states, often used to following from behind, have found themselves in the unfamiliar waters of being out front and responsible for charting the future direction of a NATO military operation in Libya.

Suez 2.0
Posted by: Pappy || 07/08/2011 14:29 Comments || Top||

#3  ..because they did so well in the Balkans. Eventually, the Americans had to be dragged into it. The Chinese Embassy could not be reached for comment.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/08/2011 16:58 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
A country is born
An Arab lament
South Sudan becomes an independent sovereign state today, and for the overwhelming majority of its people it is a day of great celebration. But for the rest of Sudan, and for the Arab world, it is a sad day. Sudan is reduced as a result — physically, culturally, economically and politically — and so is the Arab world. The new country will not be part of it. Arabic, widely spoken in the south, will no longer have any status; the only official language will be English. Arabs, moreover, may find themselves discriminated against despite the declarations otherwise by the new states’ authorities. So too may Islam, the faith of the majority in the old Sudan.

It did not need to come to this. A united Sudan could have survived. The blame lies wholly with successive governments in Khartoum, starting with President Numeiry in 1983 when he annulled the south’s autonomy and declared all Sudan an Islamic state, right the way through to the present president, Omar Bashir. If they had stuck to the 1972 agreement which ended the first civil war, by which the African and today largely Christian south was given autonomy, there would have been no second civil war, no divorce. The 1983 decision and all that flowed from it — coercion, repression, oppression‚ and which resulted in as many as two million southerners being killed or dying from famine and disease as a result of the conflict turned an autonomy movement into a secessionist one.
Posted by: tipper || 07/08/2011 15:31 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But the Black Christians will not have to put up with the janjaweed anymore.

The Nubians are not feeling happy but it makes all that work our country has done for the last 14 years worth it.

Arabs have wrought enough damage in Africa. Remember that OBL sponsored the islamification of Sudan in the start. The state offered OBL to Clinton but refused as we hand "nothing to hold him on".
Posted by: newc || 07/08/2011 22:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Smart move to make English the official language.

Just possibly they will become an African success story.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/08/2011 23:36 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Audacity of Dope
Posted by: Phager the Rash2607 || 07/08/2011 10:54 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Terror Networks
Yes, There's Still a War On
Gabriel Malor @ AoSHQ writes about the latest twist in the handling of detainees by the administration, as told in This Story at the Washington Post.
A Somali militant linked to Al Qaeda was held and interrogated for two months on a U.S. Navy ship -- the first publicly known example of the Obama administration secretly detaining a new terrorism suspect outside the criminal justice system.

Senior administration officials revealed the case Tuesday after an indictment against the man, Ahmed Abdulkadir Warsame, was unsealed in federal court in New York. The indictment, which does not mention Warsame's military detention, charges that he worked to broker a weapons deal between Al Qaeda's affiliate in Yemen and the Somali militant group Shabab. It alleges that he fought on Shabab's behalf in Somalia in 2009, then went to Yemen in 2010 for explosives training and took part in terrorist activities there.
After some comments about the hypocrisy, he concludes
Lemme see if I've got this right. The President acknowledges that we have to interrogate these guys. He's admitted that, finally. But he cannot send terrorists to U.S. detention sites on our allies' territory because he railed against that when Bush 43 did it. He cannot send terrorists to the major detention facility created for that purpose on territory we control because he similarly railed against that at a time when he had no real responsibilities and despite the fact that he has now conceded that it will remain in operation indefinitely. He cannot send them straight to the United States because then we couldn't interrogate them and he has surrendered to the fact that we need to interrogate them.

Solution: avoid this entire mess of his own creation by secretly detaining terrorists on naval vessels and as far as international (or domestic law) goes just fugedaboudit. Too. Much. Trouble. Presidentin'. Is. Hard.
Eventually, though, the administration turned this detainee over to the FBI, which threw out a lot of the information gathered as tainted:
...he CIA literally won't touch terrorist interrogations with a ten foot pole. Not even "humane" interrogations. And that's a direct result of Obama's and AG Holder's witchhunt. (See this must-read column on that issue.)

At the end of these interrogations, Warsame was Mirandized and then turned over to the FBI, which reportedly built its own independent and "untainted" case against him. Warsame will be tried in New York City for aiding Al Qaeda, assuming he doesn't take a plea deal first.
I wonder if there are any misdemeanor terrorism charges available for plea-bargaining with.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 07/08/2011 00:42 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, what do you expect when you throw away a nation of laws for a nation of charismatic leaders who have no need for laws except to force their opponents to live by. One set of rules for me, another set of rules for thee.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/08/2011 10:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Prison hulks, we need some.
Posted by: S || 07/08/2011 11:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Stupid imbeciles unlawfully detained him for two weeks and then Mirandized him?

We currently have the most incompetent legal system in the history of the US. The DOJ is corrupt as hell and does not understand the law. It's only purpose is political wrangling and contorting the law.

Warsome should have been immediately shipped to GTMO as an enemy combatant.

Now you will have an obama show drial in NY city, a circus, a mockery of our Justice system, and the guy will probably walk scott free.

I have never, in my life, ever seen anything more unprofessional than this administration.

Stupid idiots.
Posted by: newc || 07/08/2011 14:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Presidentin'. IsBe. Hard.

Couldn't stand it anymore. Had to fix it. Sorry.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 07/08/2011 15:55 Comments || Top||

#5  "Warsome should have been immediately shipped to GTMO shot as an a non-uniformed enemy combatant."

Fixed.
Posted by: Barbara || 07/08/2011 17:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Barbara, IIRC, that's what the Geneva Convention says about illegal combatants.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 07/08/2011 19:27 Comments || Top||



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