After watching CNN's special on Guns today with a special focus on suicides by gun (more veterans of our wars committed suicide last year then were killed in Afghanistan), I am more convinced than ever that the United States of America has to come to terms with separating weapons from veterans in mental crisis. Nice hook. The subtext is the kind of massive government involvement the left loves.
And after the recent shooting in Colorado after an eighteen year old purchased a shotgun legally less than a week before critically wounding another student then taking his own life, I am for a lengthy waiting period before buying a weapon and also having the purchaser take a comprehensive safety course on such a weapon and being interviewed by a mental health professional to determine the reason for and necessity for buying such a weapon and if a student and living at home the mental health professional would also interview the parents, guardians, and teachers of a younger age buyer if they are aware of this would-be weapon owner's desire. Waitaminut. You were talking about veterans. What does a Kommie Kid have to do with your opening argument? Also, the writer wants every potential new gun purchaser to get an interview by the "mental health" professional, you know: The kind the government licenses. I don't see any potential for abuse there. No sirree bob! You'll notice after the due notice of veterans, to "protect them", this Kos Kid does not include any reference to veterans after that hook.
The cost of such a comprehensive background check would be paid for by the gun manufacturers of America and the NRA. Included in the purchase of the weapon if all the checks are done would be malpractice insurance covering the use of the weapon in connection with any criminal act by the purchaser. Which, as you will note, do not go to the polls to vote. Nice one. You're a big hero going against the evil, greedy corporation all the while failing to note their abject lack of political influence. And as for criminal acts, can we include the cops with this?
No weapon should ever be sold over the internet nor should ammo be sold in this way. Thus spake the internet fascist.
All guns and ammo should be sold through gun dealers. No gun show loopholes Just admit it. This is total disarmament for your political opponents, using the offices of the government to do the dirty work you refuse to do.
All those who purchase said weapons would have to notify the police and the FBI that they have bought a weapon and show proof that there is a proper gun safe at home.
Because of the extra police work involved, there should be levied a "sin" tax on the weapon as well paid for by purchaser. Why is it statists and fascists are always wanting to increase the coffers of the one entity that prints and is supposed to maintain the currency? Ever wonder why that is so?
Since gun owners have proudly showed on youtube clips how easy it is to change magazine clips of 30 or less rounds, effectively a semi-automatic operates as an automatic and therefore should be outright banned for sale in the United States. More revenge against political opponents using the offices of government as your personal army.
To eliminate gun violence on the streets of Detroit, New Orleans, and other plagued inner cities where it is "fast and furious" and straw purchased guns are sold illegally, it is necessary to institute a gun registration so that every gun can be traced back to its original purchaser. Virginia: Get a gun. Seriously.
My understanding of the Second Amendment in that the right to keep and bear arms was in context of a "well-regulated militia" in place of a standing army at the time of its passage which there was none. Now we do have such standing armies and the National Guard and local police. Your understanding sux. That phrase was intended to allow gun owners to retain their weapons regardless of whether they are in an militia or not. Now, my Second Amendment understanding has evolved thanks to fascists like Virginia to mean the remaining bulwark against a tyranny imposed by a majority. You know, like imposing restrictions on a right in the Bill of Rights.
Frankly, the ability of any Tom, Dick,Harry, SusieQ, to buy any weapon or ammo without adequate scrutiny has made life cheap and unless a person has eyes in the back of his or her head, makes no one safer. Gun laws are not written to make anyone safer, but the thugs who are in law enforcement and their political and elected paymasters Elimination of gun laws allow every one to be safe regardless if they are fascists like Virginia or anyone else. More draconian gun laws make everything worse and just add to the possibility of open armed revolt..
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Every single one of the shooters since Obama took office (except for possibly the guy who shot up a TSA checkpoint recently) were rabid liberals and occurred in areas already under heavy liberal gun controlled (also-known-as kill boxes of the un-armed at the mercy of wide-eyed, crazed, heavily armed liberals). Therefore, we 2nd Amenderites have good reason for keeping our HEAT handy.
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Frankly, the ability of any Tom, Dick,Harry, SusieQ, to buy any weapon or ammo without adequate scrutiny has made life cheap and unless a person has eyes in the back of his or her head, makes no one safer.
Nothing says "safety" and "making life cheap" like Doctor Kermit Gosnell.
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Nice nym, anyway. It seems she and her pals are not entirely convinced of the advisibility of a confiscational children's crusade, with or without "whose army."
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#1 Every single one of the shooters since Obama took office (except for possibly the guy who shot up a TSA checkpoint recently) were rabid liberals and occurred in areas already under heavy liberal gun controlled (also-known-as kill boxes of the un-armed at the mercy of wide-eyed, crazed, heavily armed liberals).
Doesn't matter. A Communist killed Kennedy fifty years ago and they still tell themselves it was a right wing plot.
When a major part of your personal philosophy and politics consists of maintaining a narrative which elevates yourself and your fellow travelers to the status of perfect beings, you cannot admit stuff like that.
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The leftist never fail to see a reason to subsidize constitutional rights (real or perceived) such as abortion, housing, healthcare, free speech, GIVERnment outreach.... But never for gun ownership. They should be passing out confiscated guns and ammo to law abiding citizens like they do condoms.
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They should be passing out confiscated guns and ammo to law abiding citizens like they do condoms.
They won't as it is about control. You can control people with making them dependent on the other things. Hard to make people dependent on you with guns and weapons. Kinda makes people go the opposite way once they can defend themselves.
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Gun Control:
The registering of the entire population for use of a product in order to regulate it, with exceptions made for special classes such as law enforcement officials, security companies, and politicians.
The registering of the entire population for use of a product in order to regulate it, with exceptions made for special classes such as unions, fast food, and politicians.
:Obamacare
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There are too many issues to address in the Kos Kid's piece. He is all over the map with the article. He wants to take guns from veterans who are having psychological problems. Why single out vets? He mentions nothing about a legal due process that applies to all citizens. Background checks should be paid by the manufacturer? Why? Presently, when purchasing a firearm such background checks are usually paid by the purchaser. Gun show loopholes? All guns and ammo should be sold through gun dealers. No gun show loopholes. Guns sold over the internet? You still have to go through a dealer with a FLL. He mentions nothing about the thugocracy underclass in this country who doesn't give a damn about the law. He mentions nothing about all the guns laws that are in already in place that are not obeyed by this thug underclass. He doesn't really say much about the fact that many recent shootings have been done by nut jobs. The article is full of non sequitur after non sequitur. Another article where a left-wing extremist writer just doesn't like firearms and wants to shove his opinion off on everyone else naively thinking that he has done something useful. Does he mention anything about the murder/carjacking that occurred in NJ yesterday. Or the many other similar occurrences that are in the news everyday. Does he mention the situations where people have protected themselves with guns. There are times when violence does solve problems.
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It is about control. Now that the government is in the condom business Democrats use that to terrorize women to vote for them. That's what all that 'War on Women' crap during the last election was about - the Democrats via Sandra Fluke basically saying "If you vote for a republican you won't be able to boink some guy 2.7 times a day - every day" which was BS - you would still be able to be a slut like Fluke - you would just have to buy your own condoms.
Now that they will have healthcare just think what the threats will entail. Threatening Seniors is their favorite tactic. Next is people's kids. We saw some of this during the Obumblecare effort - kids claiming they won't be able to get treatment for cancer or some dreaded desease because the government doesn't provide it (nevermind that it's their *parents* responsibility).
When they control guns, they won't have to threaten any more.
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The push for such seems to be coming from a tie in between the two; why the opening statement is such a duck from the remaining content. That is the talking point, the writer just didn't have a cracker in the box to match that dip so it seems awkward.
Example, other than the military tack, is the effort to dig up Jovan Belcher, infamous KC Chiefs murder/suicide made famous chinese olympics phile claiming it was too much howdy doody as a child which allowed the djinn in the ten to take control of his reflexes down his baby's momma then himself.
The concept is that traumatic brain injury - from sports in this case - causes people to fall under the spell of gun violence. The idea is plausable, of course, because the SOP is to take a plausable idea, change the language with the dictate, to change the meaning.
This gives the opening for talking head to put their palms up and pine about culture and the degradation of sport, all sport, even fabled soccer. The fact that other than having to scrape evidence off of the ticket collection booth for traumatic injury, there will be no discussion of his blood alcohol content, substance abuse, and his behavior, all of which can be traced back to his youth.
So what do I do if a once and future top level athletic 18 year old decides to kick in my door and take my TV while I am at home with the kids because free shit y'all? Use foul language? Sit in timeout? Hope he has remaining morals to not use his authority to beat my family and me, in front of my family? Report him to the police and my kids get ambushed?
Shit on you. I actually get the brigand of free shit; get the best at least cost, and if that only involves lifting weights, getting crunked, and picking up the check at the first of the month to go buy the newest game then kick someone's ass for a TV, then that is the profession. This Mikey Vandermouse is going to sit in his comfy chair, watch his TV, and say that I do not have this choice, this right, to defend myself because CNN hurt his feelings?
The tell that this is not a serious article is the inclusion of the NRA, a private right to assemble group uninvolved in the technical production or purchase of a firearm. That is authoritarianism, that is tyranny, and that is what Vanderpooter is advocating.
Both crime and tyranny existed before our Constitution was penned. Perhaps, there is a reason for the 2nd ammendment Mike.
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*And apologies if the linker is Vanderboegh is my lightning rod, I can't tell from the article and links. I see a Bill Moyers also.
My point remains unchanged regardless of the petite tyrant's name.
And the alert system is there, it isn't allowed to be used. You knock down the siren because everyone is special then bitch when a tornado rips through town and people die because they had no warning.
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Some people just don't get that they are totally free to go without exercising every last one of their individual rights. They just are not allowed to make their choice my choice also. Confusing for a weak mind, I know, but there it is...
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Another know it all who has never experienced the real world. Nanny boy.
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I could be wrong but I remember seeing a statistic about gun control in Australia. they removed the guns and the suicide rate remained the same. Folks just chose other options.
I think murder went down but violent crime went way up.
Get rid of guns and its the strong over the weak. Be that the government holding down the masses, gangs controlling the streets, or just the bigger guy controlling the ally.
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The only reason your allowed to say something stupid is because we own the guns and have defended your right to free speech. Take away the guns and your free speech will soon follow.
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[Pak Daily Times] I am not an Afghan. I am Khurasani, I am Tajik, I am Uzbek and I am Hazara because Afghan means Pashtun. Last week, the removal of the name Afghan and religion from the national identity card of people from Afghanistan caused ethnic conflagration across the country. Pashtun parliamentarians and tribal leaders condemned the decision and demanded a review. Some television channels screened anti-state programmes and interviewed ethnic minority leaders who urged the division of the state on an ethnic basis, while some criticised the discriminatory behaviour of the Karzai regime towards minorities. The flames are slowly coming out from the north and are spreading to the south and west. In various northern provinces, ethnic groups and political parties condemned President Karzai for not signing a security agreement with the US. Ethnic rivalries have entered a decisive phase with one ethnic commander receiving a lot of money and arms from different channels.
Throughout the 18th and 19th centuries, Afghanistan had never been a strong nation state, with ethnic politics being a big threat to the unity of the nation. In the 1980s and 1990s, thousands of people were killed in the civil war. In the 1990s, civil war broke out largely along ethnic and sectarian lines. The mujahideen commanders killed and raped women, looted houses and destroyed government buildings in various parts of the country. In 1992, a young woman jumped to her death from the second floor of her house in order to avoid being raped. In another incident, a woman was raped and her husband was killed in the outskirts of Kabul. Relatives of the raped woman accused General Qasim Fahim, the then vice president of Afghanistan, of attacking her home.
Today, each ethnic group has its chief power broker. Warlords and war criminals distribute government posts, and Afghan intelligence, the army and the police have a good representation of Taliban and criminal militias. This is a dangerous trend in a country where the intelligence war among 50 nations is at its peak. The influence of foreign intelligence agencies, warlords, war criminals and ethnic and sectarian leaders in the Afghan intelligence is a matter of great concern. Afghan secret agencies disseminate disinformation and provide different kinds of intelligence to ethnic and sectarian leaders. They also leak secrets of the state, cabinet meetings, presidential palace and Afghan National Army (ANA) headquarters. The majority of workers in these agencies have come from minority ethnic groups based in Northern Afghanistan. There are people within the agencies who have no knowledge of intelligence -- they just passed a primary test in the KGB training centres during the 1980s.
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[Bangla Daily Star] Pakistain's national assembly, through a reassertion of the myopia which has historically kept Pakistain captive to its prejudices and inhibitions, has passed a resolution condemning the execution of Abdul Quader Mollah, a notorious war criminal in occupied Bangladesh in 1971. The country's interior minister, Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, has glibly called the hanging a 'judicial murder'. The assembly unsurprisingly and carefully ignored the fact that Mollah and others like him had helped the Pakistain army in the murder of three million Bengalis and the rape of two hundred thousand Bengali women.
The move in the national assembly is once again a sign of Pakistain's inability to forget the humiliation it went through in Bangladesh in December 1971. Because it cannot forget, it remains attitudinally bitter towards Bengalis.
Activists and supporters of Jamaat-e-Islami ...The Islamic Society, founded in 1941 in Lahore by Maulana Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi, aka The Great Apostosizer. The Jamaat opposed the independence of Bangladesh but has operated an independent branch there since 1975. It maintains close ties with international Mohammedan groups such as the Moslem Brotherhood. the Taliban, and al-Qaeda. The Jamaat's objectives are the establishment of a pure Islamic state, governed by Sharia law. It is distinguished by its xenophobia, and its opposition to Westernization, capitalism, socialism, secularism, and liberalist social mores... Pakistain have been staging noisy demonstrations in various cities and towns of the country to protest the execution of Abdul Quader Mollah in Bangladesh. Mollah, a notorious collaborator of the Pakistain occupation forces in Bangladesh in 1971, has been described as shaheed-e-Pakistain (martyr of Pakistain). These protesters have carried posters inscribed with the question, in Urdu, "Bangladesh mein Jamaat-e-Islami mujrim kyun" (why is the Jamaat-e-Islami a convict in Bangladesh?).
Leading figures in the Pak Jamaat have demanded that their government sever diplomatic relations with Bangladesh as a way of registering its outrage over the hanging of Mollah. As if in response to this demand, Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, minister for interior in Pakistain's federal cabinet, earlier came forth with expressions of his "deep grief" over Mollah's hanging. Khan has minced no words in suggesting that the Bangladesh Jamaat politician was hanged because of his solidarity with Pakistain during Bangladesh's Liberation War in 1971. "Till the very end before the creation of Bangladesh", as the Pak minister has put it, Mollah remained a supporter of a united Pakistain, which is why "today every Pak is saddened"'.
That said, Jamaat leaders in Pakistain have drawn attention to an alleged deal reached by Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and Zulfikar Ali Bhutto ...9th PM of Pakistain from 1973 to 1977, and 4th President of Pakistain from 1971 to 1973. He was the founder of the Pakistain Peoples Party (PPP). His eldest daughter, Benazir Bhutto, would also serve as hereditary PM. In a coup led by General Zia-ul-Haq, Bhutto was removed from office and was executed in 1979 for authorizing the murder of a political opponent... to the effect that no one would die or be punished in Bangladesh over his role during 1971 and after. The statement is a lie.
For its part, the Pakistain foreign ministry, on its website, records its concern that the war crimes trials in Bangladesh have "added to the current instability" in the country. The ministry nevertheless wishes the "brotherly people of Bangladesh" well.
All these factors, coming from Pakistain in light of Mollah's execution, highlight yet once again the state of denial that has been at work in the Pak establishment since the Pakistain army surrendered in Dhaka on 16 December 1971.
The state of denial began soon after ZA Bhutto took over as president and chief martial law administrator from a discredited Yahya Khan in late December 1971. At his very first meeting with Bangabandhu in Rawalpindi after having the latter moved from solitary confinement to house arrest, Bhutto informed Bangladesh's founder that the Indian army was in occupation of "East Pakistain". In the years leading up to Islamabad's recognition of Dhaka's independence, Pakistain persisted in referring to Bangladesh as the "Dhaka authorities".
Pakistain was compelled to accord recognition to Bangladesh prior to the Islamic conference, held in Lahore, in February 1974. Later that year, in response to an appeal from Abdul Haq, a pro-Beijing communist leader in Bangladesh, for aid to overthrow the government of Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, Bhutto instructed his cabinet to help Haq. Reference on the subject can be traced to Stanley Wolpert's "Zulfi Bhutto of Pakistain".
During his visit to Dhaka in June 1974, a clearly reluctant and angry Bhutto was compelled to visit the National Memorial at Savar to honour Bangladesh's freedom fighters. His behaviour bordered on the insulting. He refused to doff the Mao cap he had on; and when the visitors' book was presented before him for his comments, he lashed out, "Enough of this nonsense", before pushing the book aside.
Paks cheered the liquidation of Bangabandhu on 15 August 1975. Prime minister Bhutto, carried away by the "good news", quickly recognised the "Islamic Theocratic Republic" of Bangladesh when no such change had come despite the coup and ordered sacks of rice to be sent to the "brotherly" people of Bangladesh.
In all the years since December 1971, no Pak government has expressed any apologies or remorse over the atrocities carried out by the Pakistain army in Bangladesh. Pervez Perv Musharraf ... former dictator of Pakistain, who was less dictatorial and corrupt than any Pak civilian government to date ... , the country's fourth military ruler, once expressed no more than "regret" at what had transpired in 1971.
Under the tripartite agreement reached by Bangladesh, India and Pakistain in Delhi in April 1974, all Bangalees stranded in Pakistain were to return home to Bangladesh, which they did. All Pak prisoners of war in camps across India were to go back to their country, which they did. As for the 195 Pak military officers Bangladesh wanted to try for war crimes, the Bhutto government, aware of the backlash it could face from Paks, promised the Bangladesh government that if the officers were freed, they would be tried in Pakistain itself. The 195 went back home, but Pakistain's promise about trying them was never kept.
Today, against the background of the Pak interior minister's comments on the Mollah execution and the national assembly resolution and in light of the "concerns" expressed on the Pak foreign office website, the silence of the Bangladesh government, especially the foreign office, is deeply mystifying, indeed stupefying. No protest has been made to the Pakistain authorities. The Pak high commissioner in Dhaka has not been summoned to the foreign office for an explanation.
The Pak Jamaat's diatribe against Bangladesh may be understandable. But when it is a Pak minister and Pakistain's foreign policy establishment taking issue over Mollah's execution, there is no question that the move is a blatant and therefore unacceptable interference in the internal affairs of a country now engaged in meting out justice to the perpetrators of the genocide that left three million Bangalees dead.
Will Foreign Minister AH Mahmood Ali enlighten the nation on his silence?
Will the foreign office explain why it has chosen to ignore Pakistain's behaviour on the war crimes issue?
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[Pak Daily Times] The leadership, both civilian and military, has lately been calling terrorism an existential threat to the country but the seriousness and resolve that is required to counter this menace, as well as root out the factors that contribute to terrorism, are missing. There is neither a national strategy nor a national discourse vis-à-vis countering terrorism. This national confusion and reluctance is benefiting terrorist outfits, which are united in imposing their own narrative on us. They know what they want. Their voice is articulate. I would use this space to suggest a few measures that need to be taken both in the short- and long-term to combat terrorism.
The argument that the reluctance of the politicianship to own the fight against the gunnies is shaking the forces' resolve to launch a full-scale offensive has few serious buyers. I believe it is the other way round. It is the military's reluctance and lack of resolve to fight that has been causing confusion and paranoia among the politicians. I would not blame Prime Minister (PM) Nawaz Sharif ... served two non-consecutive terms as prime minister, heads the Pakistain Moslem League (Nawaz). Noted for his spectacular corruption, the 1998 Pak nuclear test, border war with India, and for being tossed by General Musharraf... and Imran Khan ... aka Taliban Khan, who is the lightweight's lightweight... for not coming clean on fighting the gunnies as they know that those who need to fight are reluctant to fight. It was heartening when former COAS General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani ... four star general, current Chief of Army Staff of the Mighty Pak Army. Kayani is the former Director General of ISI... declared terrorism to be 'enemy number one' but we know that the army's approach is still India-centric. The concept of good and bad Taliban is still very much alive.
In the absence of a clear stance with regard to the bully boyz on the part of our security forces, a productive national discourse cannot be initiated. The media's influence on the national discourse is critical in democratic societies but, unfortunately, our media is infested with right wing rhetoric. The recent example is that of Malala Yousafzai and how information was twisted to paint the little child as an agent of the west, thus justifying the barbaric act of the gunnies who shot her. I can present several examples where the media, dominated by right wing rhetoric, has played into the hands of the terrorists. During my research and interaction with krazed killer outfits, I found that a majority of the propaganda material used by the gunnies is obtained from the mainstream media, especially Urdu media. It is time a media watchdog is set up to closely monitor reports, especially the contents of prime time talk shows, so as to discourage 'intellectual' gunnies from using the media platform and advocating the terrorist cause.
Unfortunately, in Pakistain, the term 'security forces' means the military only. This is not to trivialise the sacrifices made by the military, but we have not been as sympathetic to the sacrifices of the hundreds of coppers who have died in the line of duty. We have treated them as lesser humans. The police and law enforcement infrastructure needs to be transformed as in the absence of an effective police force, which is well-trained and well-equipped, terrorism cannot be countered.
As a long-term strategy to counter militancy, we need to overhaul our education system. Education in Pakistain is in fact indoctrination worse than the kind the Nazis carried out in Germany. The curriculum taught in schools does not enlighten students but fills their heads with sickening hatred, a flawed superiority complex based on the glorified past, a confused and split personality, bigotry and a directionless future. The students are taught to live with a state of mind that does not relate to the demands and challenges of the real world. The real world requires peaceful coexistence, universal love, celebration of cultural diversity, harmony of faiths and freedom of choice and expression.
Here is an example of what they teach in schools. In the textbook of Pakistain Studies for class 10, a lesson on the 'creation of Pakistain', on page 16, from lines four to seven reads: "In this regard, Hindus tried to impose restrictions on Mohammedans' religion, started making noise outside the mosques. Mohammedans had their jobs closed on them. Hindus tried to replace Urdu with Hindi in schools and forced Mohammedans to worship Gandhi's statue. Mohammedan children were asked to put tilka (mark worn on the foreheads as a representation of Hinduism). They were forced to chant the Bande-e-Matrum, an anthem that maintained incitement against Mohammedans."
The powers that be need to launch a massive 'de-indoctrination' process in our education system to do away with false concepts based on a twisted interpretation of history. No changes whatsoever in the curriculum will yield any positive results if the same indoctrinated teachers stick to their blinkered ways of teaching. This process requires at least a decade but it has to be done. There is no short cut.
Poverty is no doubt a contributing factor in terrorism but to suggest that only the poor are attracted to militancy is not true. A research study conducted by prestigious US universities found no link between poverty and terrorism. This study of 6,000 people suggested that poorer Paks were actually less likely to support krazed killer groups than more affluent, better educated people. This is not to glorify poverty, but economic prosperity without enlightenment and political representation leads to frustration and powerlessness.
Political activity has been an effective instrument in engaging people. The presence of legitimate means to express dissent reduces violence. The decision of the previous government to allow political parties to operate freely for the first time in FATA is a belated but right step and will help lessen the grip of militancy in the region. Critics argue that the lack of reforms has alienated rustics and made it easier for krazed killer networks to recruit young men to fight the Pak government and to avenge a covert US drone war.
Economic prosperity coupled with quality education and political representation will help counter terrorism in Pakistain in the long run. In the short term, an effective police force, balanced media reporting and a clearheaded military will help in cleaning up the mess.
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...the creepy-looking former dictator of Pakistain. Zia was an Islamic nutball who imposed his nutballery on the rest of the country with the enthusiastic assistance of the nation's religious parties, which are populated by other nutballs. He was appointed Chief of Army Staff in 1976 by Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, whom he hanged when he seized power. His time in office was a period of repression, with hundreds of thousands of political rivals, minorities, and journalists executed or tortured, including senior general officers convicted in coup-d'état plots, who would normally be above the law. As part of his alliance with the religious parties, his government helped run the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan, providing safe havens, American equipiment, Saudi money, and Pak handlers to selected mujaheddin. Zia died along with several of his top generals and admirals and the then United States Ambassador to Pakistain Arnold Lewis Raphel when he was assassinated in a suspicious air crash near Bahawalpur in 1988...
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