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War Crime of the first order. Russia burns Mariupol to the ground!
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-Great Cultural Revolution
Elon Musk Comments:
[Twitter]

Posted by: 3dc || 03/14/2022 05:16 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  Musk could moonlight at the Babylon Bee...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 03/14/2022 7:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Finally, a project that interests Barack Obama.
Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210 || 03/14/2022 7:35 Comments || Top||


#4  The Einstein-Edison of this Centuray!
Posted by: Ometch Grack1222 || 03/14/2022 11:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Russia responds: 'Weakling'

Musk has already defeated Rogozin. Russia has to can't do better.
Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210 || 03/14/2022 11:35 Comments || Top||

#6  Weaklings! Let's settle this the right way
Posted by: Grusing Omolurt8236 || 03/14/2022 11:44 Comments || Top||

#7  Gold, Jerry! Gold!
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 03/14/2022 16:20 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
StrategyPage: Small Wonders
Strategy Page gets seriously analytical, at length. The opening paragraph:
The Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 was not unexpected but the poor performance of the Russian military was a surprise, even to the Ukrainians. One of those surprises was the Russian inability to gain air superiority. The Russian air force has dominated the skies over Syria for years. But in Ukraine Russian helicopters (transports and gunships) as well as large transports were more often seen, and shot down, than Russian jet fighters and ground attack aircraft. The Russian helicopters still operate inside Ukraine, but have to do so carefully because the Ukrainians have received over 10,000 modern portable anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons, which were distributed to hundreds of small teams of twenty or so soldiers and local volunteers who know the local terrain and secondary roads better than the Russians. These teams are directed to roads used by Russian convoys or areas where combat vehicles are concentrated and carry out surprise attacks. Local civilians report Russian activity and this is passed on to the attack teams. Ukraine also receives recent commercial satellite photos of Russian activity. Ukraine also has over twenty armed (with laser guided missiles) TB2 UAVs purchased from Turkey before the invasion with more delivered, via Poland, in early March.
Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210 || 03/14/2022 07:48 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Russia is in trouble with their 'Special Military Operation.' Some armchair thoughts or bullets (mostly obvious):

1. Unexpectedly strong Ukraine resistance and resolve.
2. High casualty (KIA/WIA) figures/estimates.
3. Poor soldier performance.
4. Poor performance and tactics at the senior leader level. No 'Plan B.' Miserably failing combined arms tactics.
5. Requests for Syrian military assistance.
6. Requests for Chinese support.
7. Coms, fuel and logistics issues (poor prior planning).
8. Possible ammo, fuel, med supply shortages.
9. Global negative media impacts.
10. Negative opinions, protests, and impacts back home in Russian civilian sector.
11. Severe economic impacts. RU stock market closure. Ruble devaluation.
12. War crimes. Cluster munitions. Video targeting of civilians, hospitals, indicates change of tactics, desperation.
14. No status of Ukrainian POW's, no news of prisoner exchanges.
15. Putin anger, frustration, and failure to apparently grasp the enormity of the situation.
16. Polish sanctuary and arms (STINGER-Manpad, Intel reporting) re-supply issue.
17. Heavy equipment (armored vehicle, fuel tankers, and aircraft) losses.
18. EU and NATO taking new, updated look at the Russian threat and economic relationships.
19. Long-held notion of Soviet/Russian military invincibility severely impacted.
20. Potential for extended Ukrainian guerilla campaign likely.

Posted by: Besoeker || 03/14/2022 9:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Re#3 - I suspect they'd do better defending their country than invading someone else's.
Posted by: Mercutio || 03/14/2022 11:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Excellent list B. To that I'd like to add Kazakhstan giving the cold shoulder to Putin's request for help after he saved their bacon during the recent uprising.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 03/14/2022 18:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Ukrainian counter attacks on Russian infrastructure?
UAV attacks on stranded Russian convoys?
Posted by: Grunter || 03/14/2022 20:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Excellent adds at #2 and #3.

Posted by: Besoeker || 03/14/2022 21:31 Comments || Top||


US, Ukrainian officials brace for possible Russian chemical attack
[The Hill] Top U.S. and Ukrainian officials are bracing for Russia's potential use of chemical weapons in the ongoing conflict between Moscow and Kyiv, although the Pentagon on Sunday said the U.S. has not seen signs of an "imminent chemical or biological attack right now" on Ukraine.

Questions over a possible chemical weapons attack by Russia emerged this week after Moscow accused the U.S. of housing biological weapons in Ukrainian territory — a statement the White House rejected.

The U.S. has warned that Russia may be making such claims to lay false pretexts for a potential attack by Moscow.

Pentagon spokesperson John Kirby told ABC’s "This Week" on Sunday that the U.S. has not "seen anything that indicates some sort of imminent chemical or biological attack right now," but emphasized the department is "watching this very, very closely."
Posted by: Besoeker || 03/14/2022 03:05 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Russia is going full fascist
[Twitter thread by Kamil Galeev]
Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210 || 03/14/2022 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, they got the black shirts correct.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 03/14/2022 8:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Disgusting CIA PROPAGANDA
HEY RANTBURG ARE YOU A CIA BITCH?
Posted by: Caligula || 03/14/2022 14:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Disgusting CIA PROPAGANDA
HEY RANTBURG ARE YOU A CIA BITCH?


Please, limit your remarks to the material presented.
Posted by: badanov || 03/14/2022 14:38 Comments || Top||


Why Russian army is so weak
Twitter thread by Kamil Galeev

Russia is basically a KGB FSB security state that keeps the army weak by various underhanded methods.


Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210 || 03/14/2022 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Reasons:

1.) Conscripts. Always poorly trained, poorly led and poor moral with least amount of fucks given.

2.) Piss poor maintenance. See #1

3.) Corruption. Generals skimming off money to upgrade units and we see the piss poor performance of Russian equipment as a result. Also see #1 and #2 for compound effect.

4.) No money for training and generals learning how to coordinate large forces together.

5.)Lack of modern equipment. Russian units are having to use un-encrypted radios and cell phones to coordinate units. The killed Generals were geo-located by Ukraine to their cell phones they used. Ukrainians sent in drones to verify and boom. Dead general. Also see #3.
Posted by: DarthVader || 03/14/2022 0:31 Comments || Top||

#2  6.) They still use pronouns.

Snark o’the night, definitely.
Posted by: Skidmark || 03/14/2022 1:03 Comments || Top||

#3  The Russians are just out of practice invading neighboring countries. Hungary was like a half-century ago. On the other hand, they do seem to be winning.
Posted by: SteveS || 03/14/2022 1:39 Comments || Top||

#4  The problems go much deeper than that. The common denominator is the FSB does not want a competing power center in Russia and will kill for that. Read the thread.
Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210 || 03/14/2022 1:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Clearly Putin's Red Army never adjusted for the new devastating manpads and unmanned drones used by WWestern militaries and now being supplied to Ukraine.
Posted by: US || 03/14/2022 1:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Horrific photos of the demolished NATO training camp at Yavoriv. Foreign mercenaries scattered, heading out of Ukraine with tails between legs. More on the way as Russian militaryvows to "exterminate" the foreign volunteers
Posted by: Ebbeque Flaviger2856 || 03/14/2022 2:31 Comments || Top||

#7  ^^^ Can you post the section in your article you linked to about your comment "Foreign mercenaries scattered, heading out of Ukraine with tails between legs." because I went through the article you linked to and did not see anything about "Foreign mercenaries scattered, heading out of Ukraine with tails between legs.".
Posted by: US || 03/14/2022 3:45 Comments || Top||

#8  Give them some time and they will get their act together
Posted by: BernardZ || 03/14/2022 4:04 Comments || Top||

#9  Don't know wat it's called in RU, but the US would refer to the 'NATO training camp at Yavoriv' as a "High Value Target."

Hind sight however, frustratingly 20/20.



Posted by: Besoeker || 03/14/2022 4:13 Comments || Top||

#10  Give them time, they'll benefit from the alliance with the GOP eventually.
Posted by: Flater Forkbeard8651 || 03/14/2022 8:57 Comments || Top||

#11  I recall an analysis of the Soviet balance of power back in the '60's: KGB and the Party kept the Military in check. Party and Army kept the KGB in check. KGB kept the Party and at least the Generals in check.
Posted by: Mercutio || 03/14/2022 11:16 Comments || Top||

#12  Mercutio: that was basically Soviet Politics 101. It was a tripod. It evolved to be stable.

Modern Russia doesn't have a tripod. It has Putin. Who isn't a tripod.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 03/14/2022 11:23 Comments || Top||

#13  I think I also know one of the problems Russia has, but I have to ask some questions first about military experience, so I can illustrate.

Beo, can you talk about your experience in the military?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 03/14/2022 11:26 Comments || Top||

#14  After this, China will attack Russia… Why attack an Island where all their ships will be torpedoed and planes will be downed. Where the Three Gorges Dam will be bombed. Russia looks easier…
Posted by: Papa Cooky || 03/14/2022 11:40 Comments || Top||

#15  Or anyone, really. I'm looking for stuff like:

Hi, I was a ___________ in _________ in (The Army, Navy, Marines, etc). I went to Basic in __________ (Fort Bliss, Naval Station Great Lakes, etc) and AIT in ____________ before winding up in _______________ going to language school before my final training for ___________....
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 03/14/2022 11:40 Comments || Top||

#16  Anyway, my point is....

you can't find that stuff for Vladimir Putin. He was busy going through whatever stuff KGB agents went through instead.

But he has a nice fake military rank from it and he thinks he can tell the people who have gone through the Russian equivalent of all that what to do.

And to some extent, he's right, because he can count on neutralizing people like Angela Merkel and Joe Biden to keep the West from mounting a decent defense.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 03/14/2022 11:44 Comments || Top||

#17  (I decided not to wait, I became impatient).
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 03/14/2022 11:44 Comments || Top||

#18  keep the West from mounting a decent defense.

Fear not: We're on it - another hot war, comin' right up (want freedom fries with that?)
Posted by: Andy Glitch7039 || 03/14/2022 11:48 Comments || Top||

#19  So if China moves into Siberia, will that take some of the pressure off Taiwan?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 03/14/2022 12:17 Comments || Top||

#20  ^ no
Posted by: No Fortunate Son || 03/14/2022 12:51 Comments || Top||

#21  he can count on neutralizing people like Angela Merkel and Joe Biden to keep the West from mounting a decent defense.

I think that would be OUR defense.
Posted by: Skidmark || 03/14/2022 15:57 Comments || Top||

#22  China's army will be much like Russia's. Was it last year or the year before they were humiliated by India?
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 03/14/2022 17:03 Comments || Top||

#23  I think that would be OUR defense.

So we *do* have some common interests with the Russians!
Posted by: SteveS || 03/14/2022 17:08 Comments || Top||

#24  #19,20

Actually happened in that area. Chinese units slated for invading Taiwan were moved to the Manchurian border. They were on the eastern flank of the assault in 1950 against the UN forces near the border. They were equipped for the south China 'adventure' and not the Korean winter. They suffered just as badly was the allies from the cold and snow.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 03/14/2022 17:30 Comments || Top||

#25  Papa Cooky, Russia has Nukes and an invasion of their territory would be one of those things most people would consider adequate reason to use them.

On the other hand China has nukes as well, and attacking Russia might be greeted with world-wide applause.
Posted by: ruprecht || 03/14/2022 19:51 Comments || Top||

#26  the US would refer to the 'NATO training camp at Yavoriv'

a rally point.
Posted by: Skidmark || 03/14/2022 23:24 Comments || Top||


Bukharin - Mandelstam - Stalin in 1938
This is an explication of the works of Osip Mandelstam, the ill fated Soviet poet, and Nicolai Bukharin, and writings about them.

This is a very weird treatment of the tragic tale of two completely different figures in Soviet-Stalinist history and society.

[CHERNARUSIANNARCOWARS] This chapter would never have been written if it were not for the huge PR campaign launched around the book by Gleb Morev, an IT-mandelshtamologist and scandalous pseudo-scientific blogger [1], about some pages of the biography of Osip Mandelstam. The central point of this campaign was the discussion of this work in the Liberal Mission Foundation with the participation of Gleb Pavlovsky.

The interest of this political philosopher in the work of Osip Mandelstam led to the fact that for the first time in our lives we picked up any book by G. Pavlovsky, and then, during high-speed viewing, references to Mandelstam flashed several times in it, close to which we saw in very indistinct, and somewhat banal conversations of Mikhail Gefter about Mandelstam [2]. However, the book publishes for the first time the materials of chamber wiretapping of N.I. Bukharin with a chamber hen [3], about which we have not heard anything.

For Gefter, they served as unnamed material for discussions about Bukharin and his prison manuscripts [4]. We will use these texts and some accompanying thoughts of M. Gefter [5] in order to single out N.I. Bukharin, those features of his reflections on his fate, creativity, Stalin, etc., which make it possible to discover incredible parallels with the fate of Mandelstam back in 1934. The year when Bukharin, as we tried to show earlier, rather took advantage of Mandelstam's situation than, as is traditionally believed, helped him.

Moreover, it is the Bukharin text of 1938 that is fundamentally important for understanding the very strange phrase of G.P. Struve from his preface to O.E. Mandelstam in 1974, in his lifetime for N.Ya. Mandelstam, that if Mandelstam had managed to go to the last exile with N.Ya. Mandelstam, the poet would have survived.

Much more at the link
Posted by: badanov || 03/14/2022 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Briefly about Ukraine, the situation by March 13
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
Commentary by Russian military blogger Andrey Chervonets/

[CHERVONEC-001] On March 12, units of the people's republics continued their offensive on the front line in the Donbass, and Russian troops advanced in the Zaporozhye region

The forward detachments of the LPR army reached the outskirts of the city of Severodonetsk, which is blocked from the northern, northeastern and northwestern directions. Violent clashes continue in Rubizhne and on the outskirts of Severodonetsk.

The People's Militia of the LPR took control of the villages of Molodezhnoye and Vozgorie. Clashes continue in the city of Popasna.

The city of Volnovakha was taken by the DPR on March 11, so the DPR troops pass through the city, heading towards the city of Ugledar.

Meanwhile, the RF Armed Forces are also advancing towards the village of Velikaya Novoselka and the town of Vugledar to link up with the DPR forces there. Here, Russian troops advanced another 12 km along a wide front and took control of the villages of Novoandreevka, Kirilovka and reached the front line of Novomayorskoye - Pavlovka - Nikolskoye - Vladimirovka - Blagodatnoye.

Izyum - (counterattack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - repulsed);
Severodonetsk - advanced detachments of the LPR went to the north. and northwestern outskirts of the city;
Popasnaya - earlier it was reported about the control of the NM of the LPR over the settlement, but today the situation has cleared up - the Armed Forces of Ukraine are counterattacking, units of the NM of the LPR are fighting to hold the center and southern outskirts of the settlement.
North-west of the city of Volnovakha - the offensive of the NM DPR and the RF Armed Forces continues in the north direction.
Mariupol - active fighting in the city.

Intensive shelling of the cities of Gorlovka, Donetsk and other settlements of the republics by the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues.

Today, in the region of the city of Avdeevka, a missile of the Tochka-U complex of the Armed Forces of Ukraine fell due to an engine failure (without detonation of the warhead).

Russian bloggers are crowing that the missile attack on Yavorovskiy military training ground is payback for the 2018 attack on Wagner mercenaries in Syria.
On Sunday morning, the Russian Armed Forces attacked the training centers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the village of Starichi and at the Yavorovskiy military training ground with high-precision long-range weapons, killing up to 180 foreign mercenaries and a large batch of foreign weapons, said the official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Major General Igor Konashenkov.

The destruction of the mercenaries at the military training ground Yavorovsky made those mercenaries who are already on the front line think. Of the two hundred of them, most decided to win positions.

The "volunteers" realized that sooner or later they themselves would be destroyed. They are running out of food. The mood is lousy. The base has been destroyed. Help didn't come. They began to guess that they did not come to Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq or Libya, that there were no tribes here with bows and arrows.

I wonder if NATO mercenaries have ever encountered cruise missiles flying towards them before?

More on the missile attack:
Konashenkov: we will destroy mercenaries in the future
[REGNUM] The strike of the RF Armed Forces led to the destruction of a large group of mercenaries. This was announced on March 13 by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Major General Igor Konashenkov .

According to Konashenkov, a group of foreign mercenaries numbering 180 people was destroyed by a strike of high-precision weapons on training centers in the village of Starichi and on the territory of the Yavoriv military training ground.

Also, according to the major general, a large batch of foreign weapons supplied to Ukraine by Western powers was destroyed.

The officer assured that the destruction of mercenaries and weapons transferred to Ukraine would continue. Recall that on February 24, a special military operation of the RF Armed Forces began to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine.

Posted by: badanov || 03/14/2022 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


From January: The likelihood is that Russia will invade Ukraine, here's why and what the objectives are likely to be.
[Bolton's Blog - 18 Jan 2022] Russia has deployed an estimated 100,000-125,000 troops - around 75% of Russia’s total ground combat power — to Ukraine’s eastern borders. President Putin has issued demands and threats to Ukraine and NATO, has launched swathing cyber attacks against Ukraine, and has increased the rhetoric aimed at his domestic audience. All the signs are that the Kremlin is poised to strike, but will they and, if so, at what and why?

In addition to the Black Sea deposits in Crimean waters, Ukraine has massive gas reserves in the east of the country, in particular the huge Yuzivske field. With these deposits, Ukraine holds 5.4 trillion cubic metres of gas, the third largest reserves in Europe.

When Russia occupied Crimea in 2014 Ukraine lost, and Russia gained, the huge gas deposits under the Scythian section of the Black Sea Shelf.

The Black Sea Shelf deposits had been under exploration for several years and Ukraine finally awarded the licences for their exploration in August 2012. Ukraine did not possess the technology or expertise to exploit the deposits itself (they are very deep), and so the contracts were inevitably going to go abroad.

Given the very close association between then Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and President Putin, the Kremlin expected the contracts would be issued to the Russian energy giant, Gazprom. But the Kremlin should have foreseen a problem. Until the Russian occupation of Crimea and the Donbas in eastern Ukraine, Ukraine imported almost all its gas from Gazprom. Gazprom had, in turn, imposed numerous price hikes on Ukraine and Ukraine’s gas distributor Naftogaz, had struggled to pay the bills. By 2014, Naftogaz owed Gazprom US$4.5 billion. Because of the repeated price hikes and resulting tensions between Gazprom and Naftogaz, Ukraine had been trying to establish other, non-Russian supplies. It turned to Europe for them, and when the contract licences were issued for exploitation of Ukraine’s on gas they went not to Gazprom and Russia, but to a group led by American ExxonMobil but including Dutch-British Royal Dutch Shell and Romanian OMV Petrom, working with the Ukrainian state company Nadra.

Posted by: Besoeker || 03/14/2022 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
As I stated early on I felt that the Russian / Ukraine issue was going to be mainly used as Media Deflection for the Biden Admin/LSD bag full of mistakes and economic issues. In this issue I was correct.

The areas I was mistaken in were underestimating;

* The Stupid Assinne levels that the Biden Admin and the LSD's could handle of it.

* Their willingness to screw over USA Citizens in how the Oil issue was handled in a Greenie Agenda 1st agenda.

* Their inability to see the far-reaching ramifications of their actions in the USA FOOD and Fuel market.

* The level of the Biden Admin/LSD grade school playground diplomacy and handling of Putin & China.

* Ukraine's ability and willingness to defend itself against Russia.
Posted by: NN2N1 || 03/14/2022 5:06 Comments || Top||

#2  I saw an Alex Jones video he posted back in October saying Russia would invade Ukraine in Late Feb and wrapped his reasoning in conspiracy theory stuff. I still don't know what to make of that but the video was pulled from YouTube.
Posted by: ruprecht || 03/14/2022 19:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Jones is an enigma in a way in that he's prescient in some ways and just a loud mouth in other (most) ways. I might visit his site a bit more, but I can't take all of the nonsense vitamin/health supplement advertisements.

And you mean to tell me that vitamin sales fund his operation? Give me a break.
Posted by: DooDahMan || 03/14/2022 22:14 Comments || Top||


Understanding Ukrainian Nazism. The neo-Nazi element is a fundamental point of post-2014 Ukraine. The Maidan coup was openly supported and financed by NATO.
Excerpt from Monthly Review’s About, confirming what you’ll have grasped after reading the first few sentences: MR Online, a forum for collaboration and communication between radical activists, writers, and scholars around the world...
[MROnline] In the West, media outlets are claiming that Russia’s agenda to "denazify" Ukraine is unfounded. At the same time, public opinion in Western countries is totally alienated from the Ukrainian reality, tending to believe only what is reported by the hegemonic media. The result of this is strong disapproval of the Russian attitude based on the lie that there is no trace of Nazism in contemporary Ukraine.
We didn’t make that argument, only that it is no more definitive in the Ukraine than in contemporary Russia.
In this sense, it is urgent that quality information be disseminated to the Western audience to avoid the proliferation of lies about the Ukrainian reality.
Quality information is our raison d’être here at Rantburg. Or laughably bad information, on which to sharpen our wits — that, too has its place.
On almost every TV channel and newspaper in the West, Ukrainian Nazism is questioned with the worst possible arguments: Zelensky is Jewish,
...check....
and the Ukrainian state is democratic.
I don’t recall that one here. Anyway, it’s easily countered by the fact that Hitler was elected as well. So was President Putin, come to think of it.
This kind of superficial thinking
Hurrah! I’m superficial!
prevents a detailed analysis of the catastrophic situation in Kiev since the Maidan, when, through a coup d’état, an anti-Russian junta took power and institutionalized a racist and anti-Russian ideology, which remains until the current days.
The repetition suggests it’s the anti-Russian part that bothers the editorialist.
When we talk about "Ukrainian Nazism" we are not saying that Kiev is a contemporary copy of Hitler’s Berlin,
Whew! Except that some of our simpler Russian trolls kept trying exactly that...
but that the neo-Nazi element is a fundamental point of post-2014 Ukraine. The Maidan coup was openly supported and financed by NATO as a way of undermining any Russian influence in Moscow’s own strategic environment. The aim was to make Ukraine a puppet state, commanded from Washington, ending any link with Russia. There was not only the objective to annihilate political, economic, and diplomatic relations between Kiev and Moscow, but also to eliminate cultural, ethnic, religious, and linguistic ties between both nations.
I’m confused. We’re going to give them a new language and make them all Catholics?
Since then, anti-Russian plans have been implemented. Ethnic Russians have been persecuted for the past eight years—even through systematic extermination in some regions. The Russian language has been criminalized in entire cities where the population does not speak Ukrainian. Schisms in the Orthodox Church have been supported to form a Ukrainian "national church" out of the Moscow Patriarchate. But the question remains: how has this been possible if Ukrainians and Russians are such close peoples? Many Ukrainians speak Russian and marry ethnic Russians, in addition to the fact that most of the country’s population follows the Orthodox Church. So how was it possible to initiate such a successful racist policy?
Holodomor. Holodomor. Holodomor. Some people hold grudges over attempted genocide, my dear editorialist. Others dislike iron curtains.
The rest can be read — without commentary — at the link, for those interested.
Posted by: Omomolet Phutch9064 || 03/14/2022 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I bet somewhere in a DoS email archive there's a memo that basically said "This Maidan thing seems like a harmless way to keep (Nuland, Vindman et al) occupied and out of the adults' hair for a while..."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 03/14/2022 7:13 Comments || Top||

#2  The Fascists are in Moscow. Stand standard Fascist, Communist technique: accuse others of what you are guilty of.
Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210 || 03/14/2022 7:32 Comments || Top||

#3  "I'm stunned that Herr Hilter used force,"
Cried Stalin, in tears, "So of course
I'm denouncing his crime...
Though I might need some time
To get over our ugly divorce."
Posted by: Boss Glusort6259 || 03/14/2022 8:21 Comments || Top||

#4  "Cried... in tears," I snored, asleep.
Posted by: Boss Glusort6259 || 03/14/2022 8:23 Comments || Top||

#5  The Fascists are in Moscow. Stand standard Fascist, Communist technique: accuse others of what you are guilty of.

It's astounding that the overwhelming amount of evidence about Ukraine Nazis is simply ignored with stuffing thumbs in ears. It's distressing that accurate information is not changing opinions as it should among intelligent people.
Posted by: Omomolet Phutch9064 || 03/14/2022 9:46 Comments || Top||

#6  No one who comments here on a regular basis is pro-nazi. I think there are lots of people here, myself included, who feel screaming "Nazi!" isn't much of an argument in and of itself. We have nazis here in the US. We somehow manage to deal with it without preparing to nuke Skokie.

Just sayin'
Posted by: M. Murcek || 03/14/2022 9:51 Comments || Top||

#7  It's astounding that the overwhelming amount of evidence about Ukraine Nazis is simply ignored with stuffing thumbs in ears. It's distressing that accurate information is not changing opinions as it should among intelligent people.

*Stomps tiny feet. Shakes tiny fists*
Posted by: Frank G || 03/14/2022 10:06 Comments || Top||

#8  I guess all the mirrors in Russia got broken during Putin's accession to Fuhrer.
Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210 || 03/14/2022 11:10 Comments || Top||

#9  Skokie? What did Skokie ever do to you?
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 03/14/2022 11:26 Comments || Top||

#10  But that's the talking point the Kremlin fed them. It's all they have.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 03/14/2022 12:15 Comments || Top||

#11  No Nazis here, no sirree
Posted by: Whomotle tse Tung8726 || 03/14/2022 12:20 Comments || Top||

#12  I hate Illinois Nazis.
Posted by: Crusader || 03/14/2022 12:28 Comments || Top||

#13  Here are some short Nazis conquering an Italian school. You can see the tiny swastikas on their backpacks.
Posted by: Matt || 03/14/2022 12:44 Comments || Top||

#14  No Nazis here
Posted by: Clem Dark Lord of the Algonquins9704 || 03/14/2022 12:48 Comments || Top||

#15  Nazis? Pshaw. What would Jewish Ukrainians know about Nazis in their midst? More propaganda
Posted by: George and Company4040 || 03/14/2022 13:38 Comments || Top||

#16  This is how Vladimir, Czar of All the Russias, described Ukraine right before the invasion Special Military Operation:

"Ukraine is not just a neighbouring country for us. It is an inalienable part of our own history, culture and spiritual space. These are our comrades, those dearest to us – not only colleagues, friends, but also relatives, people bound by blood, by family ties."

Doesn't sound like he's talking about a Nazi stronghold. But please, feel free to contradict him.
Posted by: Matt || 03/14/2022 13:42 Comments || Top||

#17  Soros. He was part time Nazi. And recalls it fondly. Soros supports Zelensky fervently, wishes death upon others. Is open to keep funding unrest and lobbying for EU expansion at the cost of regional interests.
Posted by: Cthulhu of Ryleh || 03/14/2022 13:46 Comments || Top||

#18  Awkward. Very awkward. March 3: PBS interviews their heroic mayor of Konotop....but forgets to tell viewers he's a well known Nazi. PBS even goes so far as to blur the picture of Stepan Bandera that he has in his office
Posted by: Vinegar Sproing9359 || 03/14/2022 13:48 Comments || Top||

#19  Radio Free Europe, Amnesty International - what would those propaganda outlets know about recognizing Nazis?
Posted by: Blinky Elmusonter3307 || 03/14/2022 13:54 Comments || Top||

#20  A fresh run of baby trolls! Guess they are short of other places to spawn with most of the Internet being shut due to Vlad's misadventure. Remember, tell the Chekist you need your pay in advance and in real money!
Posted by: Nero || 03/14/2022 13:55 Comments || Top||

#21  Yup. "Trolls" - like the Wiesenthal Center Jerusalem office head, Efraim Zuroff:

Called a “neo-Nazi paramilitary militia” by Congressmen John Conyers Jr. and Ted Yoho, who cosponsored the bipartisan amendment, the battalion has been a source of controversy since its inception.

With the neo-Nazi Wolfsangel symbol on its unit flash – which resembles a black swastika on a yellow background – and founders drawn from the ranks of the paramilitary national socialist group called “Patriot of Ukraine,” the group would have been a fringe phenomenon in any Western nation, but with its army unequipped to face the separatist threat in the east, Kiev actually integrated Azov into its military forces.

The news that the Azov Battalion is now legally able to receive American aid has enraged the Simon Wiesenthal Center, which last week successfully blocked the battalion from holding a recruitment meeting in Nantes, France.
“This step is hardly surprising to anyone who has been following the growing danger of Holocaust distortion in post-Communist Europe, and especially in the Baltics, Ukraine and Hungary,” said Wiesenthal Center Jerusalem office head Efraim Zuroff.
Posted by: Simon Wiesenthal Center || 03/14/2022 14:01 Comments || Top||

#22  Hopefully a soon to be dead paramilitary militia.
Posted by: Cthulhu of Ryleh || 03/14/2022 14:06 Comments || Top||

#23  Nazis wouldn't burn people alive in May 2014 and hack the corpses to pieces, would they? Nope. No Nazis, unh-unh
Posted by: Injun Angugum6481 || 03/14/2022 14:06 Comments || Top||

#24  It's nice that commenters are finally coming around to recognizing that Ukrainian Nazis exist. The argument has now moved to "Nazis aren't a big deal." That's progress! There's hope for you after all. Evidence is changing your opinions. You're out of Stage 1: Denial.
Posted by: Omomolet Phutch9064 || 03/14/2022 17:27 Comments || Top||

#25  Stage 2: Irony - dismiss evidence with artless put-downs ("chew toy" yukyuk)
Stage 3: Change Subject
Posted by: Graiper Thimp3588 || 03/14/2022 17:34 Comments || Top||

#26  Funny how the country with the most neo-Nazis on record is Russia, yet they aren't cleaning up their own.
Posted by: Clyde Untervehr8732 || 03/14/2022 17:39 Comments || Top||

#27  Let the Alinsky style ridicule begin...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 03/14/2022 17:40 Comments || Top||

#28  Many thanks to the left, who has spent the last 5 years relentlessly telling us that EVERYONE is a Nazi. As a result, I no longer care.

Further, why would I root for the Communists over the Nazis (if that's what they are)? How would the communists winning ever be considered a good thing?
Posted by: Crusader || 03/14/2022 17:41 Comments || Top||

#29  *Sigh* Nazi this and neo-Nazi that. Ethnic Chauvinists that despise the stranger living across the river are as old as mankind and were not invented in 20th century Germany. Ukraine has them, Russia has them, Germany, China, Japan and... ask a Korean or Chinese about the Japanese, eh?

This presumption that we are supposed to start drooling and barking like Pavlov's dog at the very mention of the word 'nazi' gets old.
Posted by: magpie || 03/14/2022 17:47 Comments || Top||

#30  Yes. The time I must spend being accused of being pro-nazi (I'm not) is cutting into the time I must spend being a rayciss and a white supremacist. I wish they would all make up their minds on the left.

Given my own choice, I prefer to be a rabid gun nut and greedy capitalist as many hours a day as I can keep my eyes open.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 03/14/2022 17:54 Comments || Top||

#31  #26 Funny how the country with the most neo-Nazis on record is Russia Ukraine, according to the Simon Wiesenthal Center

Unlike Russia, whose president was honored with the 2020 "Friends of Zion" award originally commissioned by Shimon Peres and presented in Jerusalem.

"Mike Evans has notified the Russian Embassy in Israel of his decision to honor President Putin. In addition he announced that 'Friends of Zion Heritage Center will be building a special exhibition honoring Russia for saving a multitude of Jews during World War II. FOZ is also building an exhibition in honor of President Trump for all he has done to support the State of Israel and combat anti-Semitism,' said Evans."
Posted by: Simon Wiesenthal Center || 03/14/2022 18:13 Comments || Top||


#33  Russia claims some of the Azov battalion are Nazis, numbered about 3000. While there about 50,000-70,000 Neo-Nazis in Russia many fighting with Neo-Nazi leader Alexander Petrovich Barkashov against Ukraine.
Posted by: Clyde Untervehr8732 || 03/14/2022 18:29 Comments || Top||

#34  I'm sure if Russia ever invades us they're going to pull out all the stops and show the Blues Brothers Movie to prove we're all nazis too.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 03/14/2022 18:43 Comments || Top||

#35  Stage 2: Irony - dismiss evidence with artless put-downs
Stage 3: Change Subject
Posted by: Graiper Thimp3588 || 03/14/2022 18:46 Comments || Top||

#36  When does the call go out for Americans to pay reparations because we did not exterminate the last nazi for all time at the end of WW II?
Posted by: M. Murcek || 03/14/2022 18:48 Comments || Top||

#37  Hey, I seen this movie... just last night, actually. Bleh.

One brilliant commander, ex-Lex;
His gunner and loader, two zeks;
His everyday striver,
A drivin' MacGiver...
They always escape
As they rollick and... traipse
Through the Reich in a series of wrecks!

Oops. Forgot the translator, cook, and bottle-washer.
Posted by: Ebbaque Bourbon1193 || 03/14/2022 18:57 Comments || Top||

#38  blech (from the Yiddish word בלעך (blekh) meaning "tin" or "sheet metal") is a metal sheet used by many observant Jews to cover stovetop burners (and for some, the cooker's knobs and dials) on Shabbos (the Jewish Sabbath), as part of the precautions taken to avoid violating the halachic prohibition against cooking on the Sabbath
Posted by: Simon Wiesenthal Center || 03/14/2022 19:03 Comments || Top||

#39  Shame, because her smile was a sunbeam through the clouds. A two-hour closeup of that, Warhol style, might just get me into a theater.
Posted by: Ebbaque Bourbon1193 || 03/14/2022 19:11 Comments || Top||

#40  Cover the cooker's knobs*
(And for some, the dials)**

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**smiles, styles, guiles, wiles, piles, denials, Beliles, crocodiles
Posted by: Thor Prince of the Welsh5181 || 03/14/2022 19:14 Comments || Top||

#41  Heh. As in "Blechtrommel," a red and white drum beaten furiously down the centuries by Russian autocrats and their occasional German counterparts.
Posted by: Ebbaque Bourbon1193 || 03/14/2022 19:17 Comments || Top||

#42  Apologies, pal. I'm all sleep-drunk and disorderly today.
Posted by: Ebbaque Bourbon1193 || 03/14/2022 19:20 Comments || Top||

#43  'ow was I supposed to know you was a Mason?
Posted by: Brother Carnahan || 03/14/2022 19:22 Comments || Top||

#44  n Shabbos (the Jewish Sabbath)

Shábbos is merely the Ashkenazi pronunciation of the Hebrew word shabbát (brought into English as sabbath), Simon Wiesenthal Center. Unlike the Sephardi Jews of Spain and North Africa, and the Mizrahi Jews of the Middle East, who historically emphasized memorization and oral recitation of the Old Testament and the Commentaries (Talmud, Mishnah, etc), with further emphasis on purity of pronunciation, the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe west of Spain emphasized the written word; and so the pronunciation drifted, many ah sounds becoming oh, many words with a final T being pronounced with an S instead, and the emphasized syllable at the beginning of the word instead of the end. This is why the Hebrew of Israel hews to the Mizrahi standard of the original Jewish inhabitants in the land, not the Ashkenazi pronunciation of the first few waves of returnees from Europe.
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/14/2022 22:14 Comments || Top||

#45  How does one get a job like Nuland's? That broad has been around forever. And since she's had a job in administrations of both parties, well, no comment.
Posted by: DooDahMan || 03/14/2022 22:17 Comments || Top||


Why Did Russia Invade The Ukraine? Here Are The Real Reasons You're Not Being Told
A search of the internet yields the following about the writer:

Michael Suede is an Austrian economist, author and software developer who holds a business degree from the University of Wisconsin. Michael is also one of the few economists who is well versed in the economics of crypto-currencies. Michael is a veteran of the US Navy and an advocate of voluntarism and limited government. Michael’s articles have appeared on Zero Hedge, Infowars, Bitcoinwatch and other news and economics publications.

Huge block of text telling us nothing new is snipped. Anyone interested in the kind of thing Herb McCoy used to grace us with is welcome to go to the link.

— trailing wife for the moderators at 3:45 a.m. ET
Posted by: Omomolet Phutch9064 || 03/14/2022 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Videos and eyewitness accounts of the devastating Russian strikes on the #Yavoriv NATO training facility 15km from the Polish border where thousands of foreign volunteers ("mercenaries") had gathered. The crater shown in one of the videos appears to be about 15m deep and over 20m wide

https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23Yavoriv&src=typeahead_click
Posted by: Whising Untervehr2079 || 03/14/2022 0:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Huge block of text telling us nothing new is snipped

Thank you very much.
Posted by: Ulusose Henbane5137 || 03/14/2022 6:35 Comments || Top||

#3  More Moscow based propaganda. When did Rantburg go over to Moscow's guidance like lap dogs and why?
Posted by: Flater Forkbeard8651 || 03/14/2022 8:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Once again, personal attacks against the author.

No debate or arguments presented against the topic.

Censorship. Because of course what the US government and media are telling you is correct. This site is much like the left, you can't point out when they've got the wrong take.
Posted by: Omomolet Phutch9064 || 03/14/2022 9:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Nothing here stops anyone from going to the link. That's not censorship.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 03/14/2022 9:47 Comments || Top||

#6  No debate or arguments presented against the topic.

The topic is the situation in the Ukraine, Omomolet Phutch9064. That there are some nasty white supremacist idiots in the Ukraine who were very probably trained in paramilitary skills by equally nasty white supremacist idiots in Russia with the connivance of the Federal Security Service is not news to readers of this site, and therefore no longer interesting to them. We’ve debated the question as much as needed to extract the useful information. Beyond that we’d be entering the realm of onanism, inappropriate for a family blog.

Just because you are excited by this single fact in a much larger situation does not mean that we need to be excited. Nor does your hatred of “Nazis” mean that we must give up our hatred of Communists as well as Nazis, as we see both as equally vile.

And this piece, unlike the other one you submitted, wasn’t even worth fisking. I read enough of it to know.
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/14/2022 10:33 Comments || Top||

#7  Perhaps we need a new category in addition to WoT, Non-WoT, etc. Howzabout "Troll Wars"? It would give our trolls a place to express themselves and throw talking points without cluttering up everything else. It's a genius idea, if I do say so myself.
Posted by: SteveS || 03/14/2022 10:37 Comments || Top||

#8  Once again, personal attacks against the author.

No debate or arguments presented against the topic.


Pedigree, like context, matters.
Posted by: badanov || 03/14/2022 10:39 Comments || Top||

#9  I think dealing with trolls when and where they present themselves is good practice. One more way to avoid becoming intellectually lazy. But I do appreciate and respect the idea that they can also be so tiresome that a "time out" area has its attractions.

In the end, I'd hope at least a few of them might learn something by being called out. Probably too much to hope for, but I'm a glass half full kind of guy, at least until it's time to reach for the bottle again...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 03/14/2022 10:40 Comments || Top||

#10  /\ One need not be an "intellectual" to be lazy. Just ask my wife.
Posted by: Besoeker || 03/14/2022 10:43 Comments || Top||

#11  I prefer to think I have adopted the Southern US habit of moving, thinking and speaking at "a dignified pace..."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 03/14/2022 10:45 Comments || Top||

#12  No Nazis here. Nope.

The DOJ Is Investigating Americans For War Crimes Allegedly Committed While Fighting With Far-Right Extremists In Ukraine

The probe involves seven men but is centered on former Army soldier Craig Lang, who is separately wanted in connection with a double killing in Florida and is fighting extradition from Kyiv.

KYIV — One chilly day in February, Craig Lang, a former US Army soldier wanted for allegedly killing a married couple in Florida, pleaded with three stern-faced judges in a Kyiv courtroom to allow him to stay in Ukraine. He first came in 2015 to fight with a far-right paramilitary unit, defending the country from Russia-backed forces. And he believed that if he were extradited back to the US, he could face war crimes charges.
Posted by: Glurong Elminerong8594 || 03/14/2022 10:53 Comments || Top||

#13  Considering what Stalin did to the Ukraine, is it surprising that some Ukrainians admire the only group to kick the Soviets' butts?
Posted by: Mercutio || 03/14/2022 11:11 Comments || Top||

#14  Any excuse will do in a court room. Same for Russians when invading another country.
Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210 || 03/14/2022 11:14 Comments || Top||

#15  I hear a lot of finger pointing and see a lot of discussion but no proof.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 03/14/2022 11:22 Comments || Top||

#16  More dissent from the Narrative
Posted by: Jumbo Clinter4151 || 03/14/2022 11:22 Comments || Top||

#17  Once again, personal attacks against the author.


Yep, that's herb.
Posted by: Skidmark || 03/14/2022 11:23 Comments || Top||

#18  Why did Russia invade Ukraine?
Easy. They wanted it. End of story.
Posted by: European Conservative || 03/14/2022 16:42 Comments || Top||

#19  That there are some nasty white supremacist idiots in the Ukraine who were very probably trained in paramilitary skills by equally nasty white supremacist idiots in Russia with the connivance of the Federal Security Service is not news to readers of this site, and therefore no longer interesting to them.

They were trained by the CIA. In fact some years ago Congress banned further training of them because they're Nazis.

It's not news? A few days ago people were shouting that it was TEH PUTINBOTZ lying about Nazis in Ukraine. Now it's so well-known that it need not be discussed any more? How does that work?

Which is it, a lie by ROOSHIN SPIES or a hoary old wives' tale? It can't be both.
Posted by: Omomolet Phutch9064 || 03/14/2022 17:31 Comments || Top||

#20  Omomolet Phutch9064 way out of your millennial league here boy.
Posted by: Woodrow || 03/14/2022 19:32 Comments || Top||


Economy
Orwell only got the year wrong
[Cannon] George Orwell now seems downright clairvoyant. The messaging from the White House surrounding inflation has been emblematic of the ironically named Ministry of Truth in the dystopian novel 1984, first published in 1949. It is worth reviewing the fluid narrative of the last 13 months before all the doublethink gets memory-holed.

In early 2021, the nation was told that there was no inflation. After that, those in power told us inflation was only transitory. Then, we were told the average American need not worry because inflation was only a high class problem. Later, inflation somehow became a harbinger of a good economy. Now, inflation is bad again and it’s either the fault of greedy monopolists or — in recent weeks — Russia.

This latest switch has come just in time for February’s consumer price index (CPI), which showed the general level of prices rising at a four-decade high of 7.9% over the last year and 0.8% in just the last month. At this latest monthly rate, prices are on pace to double in a little more than seven years. Put another way, the real value of wages will be cut in half in that same time.

Energy costs have been a large contributor to general price increases since President Joe Biden took office, largely because of his punitive regulatory policies. Against that backdrop, the White House’s latest sanctions on Russian oil imports are not being joined by Europe or China, which are now purchasing Russian oil at a discount. The impolitic move only raised American’s prices, while lowering Europe’s and China’s, and Putin is still getting paid.

Yet we are told that this is a crippling sanction. That is only true insofar as the American middle class are the ones being crippled. The Ministry of Truth would be proud.

To replace the Russian oil that America is no longer buying, we’re cozying up to Iran, asking it to pump more oil. The White House doesn’t seem to mind anymore that the Iranians are the biggest state sponsor of terrorism — the Iranians are now our friends, and we are in talks to allow them to restart their nuclear program. It is reminiscent of the sudden realignment of alliances in Orwell’s 1984: "Oceania is not at war with Eurasia. Oceania is at war with Eastasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia."

The obvious answer is for American production to tap the abundant energy here at home, but the Biden administration’s war on domestic energy continues, with the White House citing unused drilling leases as proof that the oil and gas industry is holding back production and, therefore, to blame for higher prices.
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