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2022-03-14 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Why Russian army is so weak
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Posted by Angaiper Ulavins1210 2022-03-14 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top

#1 Reasons:

1.) Conscripts. Always poorly trained, poorly led and poor moral with least amount of fucks given.

2.) Piss poor maintenance. See #1

3.) Corruption. Generals skimming off money to upgrade units and we see the piss poor performance of Russian equipment as a result. Also see #1 and #2 for compound effect.

4.) No money for training and generals learning how to coordinate large forces together.

5.)Lack of modern equipment. Russian units are having to use un-encrypted radios and cell phones to coordinate units. The killed Generals were geo-located by Ukraine to their cell phones they used. Ukrainians sent in drones to verify and boom. Dead general. Also see #3.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-03-14 00:31||   2022-03-14 00:31|| Front Page Top

#2 6.) They still use pronouns.

Snark o’the night, definitely.
Posted by Skidmark 2022-03-14 01:03||   2022-03-14 01:03|| Front Page Top

#3 The Russians are just out of practice invading neighboring countries. Hungary was like a half-century ago. On the other hand, they do seem to be winning.
Posted by SteveS 2022-03-14 01:39||   2022-03-14 01:39|| Front Page Top

#4 The problems go much deeper than that. The common denominator is the FSB does not want a competing power center in Russia and will kill for that. Read the thread.
Posted by Angaiper Ulavins1210 2022-03-14 01:44||   2022-03-14 01:44|| Front Page Top

#5 Clearly Putin's Red Army never adjusted for the new devastating manpads and unmanned drones used by WWestern militaries and now being supplied to Ukraine.
Posted by US 2022-03-14 01:46||   2022-03-14 01:46|| Front Page Top

#6 Horrific photos of the demolished NATO training camp at Yavoriv. Foreign mercenaries scattered, heading out of Ukraine with tails between legs. More on the way as Russian militaryvows to "exterminate" the foreign volunteers
Posted by Ebbeque Flaviger2856 2022-03-14 02:31||   2022-03-14 02:31|| Front Page Top

#7 ^^^ Can you post the section in your article you linked to about your comment "Foreign mercenaries scattered, heading out of Ukraine with tails between legs." because I went through the article you linked to and did not see anything about "Foreign mercenaries scattered, heading out of Ukraine with tails between legs.".
Posted by US 2022-03-14 03:45||   2022-03-14 03:45|| Front Page Top

#8 Give them some time and they will get their act together
Posted by BernardZ 2022-03-14 04:04||   2022-03-14 04:04|| Front Page Top

#9 Don't know wat it's called in RU, but the US would refer to the 'NATO training camp at Yavoriv' as a "High Value Target."

Hind sight however, frustratingly 20/20.



Posted by Besoeker 2022-03-14 04:13||   2022-03-14 04:13|| Front Page Top

#10  Give them time, they'll benefit from the alliance with the GOP eventually.
Posted by Flater Forkbeard8651 2022-03-14 08:57||   2022-03-14 08:57|| Front Page Top

#11 I recall an analysis of the Soviet balance of power back in the '60's: KGB and the Party kept the Military in check. Party and Army kept the KGB in check. KGB kept the Party and at least the Generals in check.
Posted by Mercutio 2022-03-14 11:16||   2022-03-14 11:16|| Front Page Top

#12 Mercutio: that was basically Soviet Politics 101. It was a tripod. It evolved to be stable.

Modern Russia doesn't have a tripod. It has Putin. Who isn't a tripod.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-03-14 11:23||   2022-03-14 11:23|| Front Page Top

#13 I think I also know one of the problems Russia has, but I have to ask some questions first about military experience, so I can illustrate.

Beo, can you talk about your experience in the military?

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-03-14 11:26||   2022-03-14 11:26|| Front Page Top

#14 After this, China will attack Russia… Why attack an Island where all their ships will be torpedoed and planes will be downed. Where the Three Gorges Dam will be bombed. Russia looks easier…
Posted by Papa Cooky  2022-03-14 11:40||   2022-03-14 11:40|| Front Page Top

#15 Or anyone, really. I'm looking for stuff like:

Hi, I was a ___________ in _________ in (The Army, Navy, Marines, etc). I went to Basic in __________ (Fort Bliss, Naval Station Great Lakes, etc) and AIT in ____________ before winding up in _______________ going to language school before my final training for ___________....
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-03-14 11:40||   2022-03-14 11:40|| Front Page Top

#16 Anyway, my point is....

you can't find that stuff for Vladimir Putin. He was busy going through whatever stuff KGB agents went through instead.

But he has a nice fake military rank from it and he thinks he can tell the people who have gone through the Russian equivalent of all that what to do.

And to some extent, he's right, because he can count on neutralizing people like Angela Merkel and Joe Biden to keep the West from mounting a decent defense.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-03-14 11:44||   2022-03-14 11:44|| Front Page Top

#17 (I decided not to wait, I became impatient).
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-03-14 11:44||   2022-03-14 11:44|| Front Page Top

#18 keep the West from mounting a decent defense.

Fear not: We're on it - another hot war, comin' right up (want freedom fries with that?)
Posted by Andy Glitch7039 2022-03-14 11:48||   2022-03-14 11:48|| Front Page Top

#19 So if China moves into Siberia, will that take some of the pressure off Taiwan?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2022-03-14 12:17||   2022-03-14 12:17|| Front Page Top

#20 ^ no
Posted by No Fortunate Son 2022-03-14 12:51||   2022-03-14 12:51|| Front Page Top

#21 he can count on neutralizing people like Angela Merkel and Joe Biden to keep the West from mounting a decent defense.

I think that would be OUR defense.
Posted by Skidmark 2022-03-14 15:57||   2022-03-14 15:57|| Front Page Top

#22 China's army will be much like Russia's. Was it last year or the year before they were humiliated by India?
Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-03-14 17:03||   2022-03-14 17:03|| Front Page Top

#23 I think that would be OUR defense.

So we *do* have some common interests with the Russians!
Posted by SteveS 2022-03-14 17:08||   2022-03-14 17:08|| Front Page Top

#24 #19,20

Actually happened in that area. Chinese units slated for invading Taiwan were moved to the Manchurian border. They were on the eastern flank of the assault in 1950 against the UN forces near the border. They were equipped for the south China 'adventure' and not the Korean winter. They suffered just as badly was the allies from the cold and snow.
Posted by Procopius2k 2022-03-14 17:30||   2022-03-14 17:30|| Front Page Top

#25 Papa Cooky, Russia has Nukes and an invasion of their territory would be one of those things most people would consider adequate reason to use them.

On the other hand China has nukes as well, and attacking Russia might be greeted with world-wide applause.
Posted by ruprecht 2022-03-14 19:51||   2022-03-14 19:51|| Front Page Top

#26 the US would refer to the 'NATO training camp at Yavoriv'

a rally point.
Posted by Skidmark 2022-03-14 23:24||   2022-03-14 23:24|| Front Page Top

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