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NATO Afghanistan mission cools Taliban threat
KANDAHAR: A NATO mission in the southwest of Afghanistan has caught Taliban leaders off guard and diminished the enemy's ability to fight a spring offensive in the area, officials said Saturday after announcing the elimination of several key Taliban leaders.
I guess announcing "Dread Spring Offensive 2007" before you start wasn't such a good idea after all
"We're operating on our terms now," Lt.-Col. Stephane Grenier, a public information officer with NATO's International Security Assistance Force, said in an interview, touting the success of its Operation Achilles. "We've restricted [the Taliban's] freedom of movement, we've disturbed how they normally do business, we've had them rethink how to resupply themselves," he said, explaining the new mission takes a different approach than some of the others that have gone before. "There hasn't been a whole lot of fighting, but that's not the point," he said.

"The point is to destabilize the enemy's ability to fight and to conduct destabilizing operations in the ways they traditionally did." The comments come as NATO announced Saturday it has eliminated several key members of the Taliban leadership in recent airstrikes in Helmand province. Launched in early March, Achilles was intended as a way to secure areas in the northern part of Helmand province, a poppy-rich territory where insurgents have generally had free reign.

Grenier said the ISAF has had to change its approach for this operation because the Taliban has moved further towards an insurgent style of warfare where they're even less eager to engage in open combat than before. While Grenier was optimistic about the progress in the region, he stopped short of declaring any kind of victory, even short-term.

In a written statement, the commander of NATO's troops in the south of Afghanistan added that he believes the Achilles mission -- which involves 4,500 NATO troops from several nations, including Canada, Britain, the United States, and the Netherlands, as well 1,000 Afghan soldiers -- has "essentially taken the initiative away from insurgents." "The Taliban extremist leadership in the south have been taken off guard by Operation Achilles and are on the defensive at this stage," said Maj.-Gen Ton van Loon. "We have inflicted serious damage to their command and control infrastructure as well as their ability to resupply," he added.

In that same statement, ISAF announced the elimination of several key Taliban leaders as part of Achilles during air strikes of an extremist compound in a remote village in northern Helmand on March 28. Officials did not release the number of people killed, saying only "several insurgents were killed during the strike including key Taliban leaders." On Saturday, ISAF officials also announced the recent capture or elimination of other Taliban leaders in another areas of the country as well.

In one operation in the Kandahar City region on Friday, ISAF and Afghan forces captured several key Taliban extremists, the statement said. Among those taken were Bacha Aka and brothers Taj and Raz Mohammed, three men who all reportedly helped to plan last month's failed assassination of Mullah Naqibullah, a respected tribal elder in Kandahar City.
Posted by: Steve || 04/04/2007 10:07 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6470 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This leads back to my suspicion that we wanted Perv to open up a "safe haven" for the Taliban outside of Afghanistan, so that we could push them there and secure the southern third of the country in their absence.

By doing so, it will be a lot harder for them to return--they will find no vacancy signs up all over the place, and as soon as the outsiders arrive in town, the locals will inform the police and military.

Meanwhile, back in the "safe haven", the al-Qaeda Chechens and Uzbeks are making themselves so obnoxious that the locals are slaughtering them.

This just seems to be working well all around.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 04/04/2007 12:20 Comments || Top||

#2  That is a mighty positive spin on things Moose. I look at it another way. A safe haven is just that, a location where the Talibs can resupply and train new recruits. They don't give a damn whether the welcome mat is layed out or not. They will use terror to force their way in.

This is a positive sign, but I am going to have to see a whole lot more for a whole lot longer to believe that having a safe haven next door is not a net benefit to the Talibs.
Posted by: remoteman || 04/04/2007 14:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Chop off the head, the body dies.
Posted by: gorb || 04/04/2007 14:58 Comments || Top||

#4  "Chop off the head, the body dies."

gorb - what if Taliban is a Medusa?
Posted by: Glenmore || 04/04/2007 18:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Kill the body too. Twice. And burn it
Posted by: Frank G || 04/04/2007 18:44 Comments || Top||

Slovak peacekeeping troops reported to be moving south
PRAGUE, Apr 3, 2007 (Xinhua via COMTEX) -- Slovak troops in Afghanistan have started moving south from Kabul in response to a request from NATO, reports reaching here from Slovakia said on Tuesday. The first part of a military engineering unit have left Kabul by aircraft for Kandahar, a key front of NATO peace-keeping troops' fighting with the Taliban militants in southern Afghanistan, Pravda, a Slovak daily, quoted a source close to the military as saying. The unit's equipment was transported in convoys, it added.

The Slovak Defence Ministry refused to comment on the mobilization. "We will not comment on the move of the soldiers to a camp near Kandahar due to security reasons," Defense Ministry spokesman Vladimir Gemela said. Last year, NATO demanded that Slovakia deploy its troops in the turbulent south of Afghanistan. Around 60 Slovak soldiers are stationed in Afghanistan as part of the International Security Assistance Force.

The commanders of the Taliban have claimed that they had prepared 10,000 fighters including 2,000 suicide bombers to speed up their attacks against Afghan and foreign forces based in Afghanistan. Recently, the attacks have been more frequent in the mountainous areas in the south than in the relatively calmer north.

The Slovak government approved the transfer of the troops to southern Afghanistan in late February on condition that they will not operate only in the air base.
Posted by: Steve || 04/04/2007 09:51 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6472 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Right on. Time to buy some more Slovakian blackcurrant cordial.
Posted by: Excalibur || 04/04/2007 10:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Any brand recommendations? :)
Posted by: eLarson || 04/04/2007 10:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Last year, NATO demanded that Slovakia deploy its troops in the turbulent south of Afghanistan.

But not the Germans or the Italians? Charming.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/04/2007 11:59 Comments || Top||

Afghan police swoop on religious 'suicide school'
POLICE raided a religious school in remote western Afghanistan and arrested 22 people, an official said Tuesday, alleging the school was involved in organising Taliban suicide attacks. Afghan police acting on a tip-off raided the school late Monday in the western province of Farah - which last month saw several suicide blasts - provincial police chief Sayyed Agha Saqib said. The school in the Bala Buluk district was being used as a “terrorist centre” and was supported by Pakistani nationals and Arabs, he said.

A Taliban commander named Mullah Hayatullah was alleged to be using the school to provide military training for the Taliban. The mullah was not among those caught in the raid and some of those arrested confessed to being Taliban. Afghan and Western officials say that many of the men behind the almost daily attacks in Afghanistan are trained in the shcools - known as 'madrassas' - run by extremist Islamists in areas of Pakistan along Afghanistan's eastern border.

Farah province, actually in the west of the country and adjoining Iran, has until the last few weeks seen relatively little of the Taliban violence stalking mainly southern and eastern Afghanistan. In late February the small town of Bakwa was overrun by Taliban fighters who were in control for less than 24 hours before Afghan security forces drove them out. Authorities later detained the Bakwa district governor and his police commander for alleged links with the Taliban. A suicide bombing on a convoy delivering the new police chief to his post on March 12 killed the officer and nine of his men. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the murders.

A suicide car bombing in Bala Buluk the previous day killed one policeman and wounded three others. It struck a convoy carrying a police chief for western provinces including Farah.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6470 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Afghan police swoop on religious 'suicide school'

The mullah was not among those caught in the raid and some of those arrested confessed to being Taliban

How did they possibly manage to capture anyone alive?!?
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 0:46 Comments || Top||

#2  They hadn't seen the video about what to do when the police bust down your door yet?
It was remedial suicide class?
I can't really think of any others.
Posted by: eLarson || 04/04/2007 13:00 Comments || Top||

Religous suicide, what better way to go? It would be good if they could just kill themselves quietly, like, say Bhuddists, but it's not about that. They have to kill and maim as much as possible, in order to qualify for some 72 alleged vestal grains of raisin stardust.

I call it murder.

Nothing to be honored there.

A 7th Century cult has no place but in the 7th Century, and there is no use in pretending any useful advice is going to be heeded.

They were told to close down Madrassas, they didn't. If we don't close them down, kinetically, we will have generations of splodey-dopes world-wide for the next 50 years, here and there. This hatred needs to be shut down. Raze these places of "learning" so the lesson is learnt.

//Rant off/
Posted by: rhodesiafever || 04/04/2007 17:31 Comments || Top||

Africa Horn
Pirates seize Indian ship, crew
PIRATES have hijacked a merchant ship in Somali waters and demanded a ransom for it, the second such seizure off the anarchic nation's coast in five weeks. The International Maritime Bureau (IMB) said overnight that pirates seized the ship and its crew close to Mogadishu. Andrew Mwangura, director of the East African Seafarers Assistance Program, said the vessel was the MV Nimatullah, a ship with 14 Indian crew members and a cargo of 800 tonnes. It is registered in the United Arab Emirates, he said. "We are informed the hijackers are demanding a ransom," Mr Mwangura said.

The cargo includes clothes, sugar, cooking oil, slippers and cosmetics, he said, and belongs to Somali businessman Sheikh Saney, who could not be reached for comment. The vessel was seized while anchored outside Mogadishu's deepwater port after sailing from Dubai, he said. The latest hijacking follows the capture of a UN-chartered freighter, the Rozen, with its crew of six Kenyans and six Sri Lankans in late February.

The crew are still being held off the coast of the semi-autonomous Puntland region. That hijacking was the first attack reported since the interim government, with Ethiopian military help, drove out Islamists late last year who controlled southern Somalia and helped crack down on piracy.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6476 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Serves them right for being in pirate waters.

Posted by: Excalibur || 04/04/2007 9:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Would it not be very easy to get control of this situation? I know they have hostages, but I doubt the pirates really want to die, either.
Posted by: gorb || 04/04/2007 16:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Give them their "Ransom" in a sealed chest (YO ho ho) and when they open it "Boom".
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 04/04/2007 18:16 Comments || Top||

Somali ceasefire holds for second day
A ceasefire in Mogadishu held for a second day on Tuesday when Somali clan elders prepared to meet Ethiopian troops after some of the worst fighting in the city's history.
That's a day longer than in Gaza ...
Diplomats from the United States, Europe and Africa were also due to meet in Cairo under the auspices of the International Contact Group on Somalia to try to put pressure on the warring parties to negotiate and reconcile.

After four days of battles that killed several hundred people and left parts of Mogadishu in rubble, two days of relative calm have brought some relief to the capital's 1 million residents, many of whom are trying to flee. Rebels linked to clan militia and a militant Islamist movement remained dug in behind sand-banks and in narrow alleys of Mogadishu. Ethiopian and Somali soldiers are watching them from positions close by, witnesses said. "Things are quiet again this morning but the fighting could start again at any time, it's tense," said a witness, surveying the city from his rooftop.

Leaders of the Hawiye clan, the city's dominant group from whose ranks many of the fighters come, were meeting early on Tuesday. They then planned to sit down with Ethiopian commanders, in Somalia to back the interim government.

Fierce fighting between Ethiopian-backed government forces and Islamic militants in Somalia's capital has killed nearly 400 people - mostly civilians - in the past four days, a Somali human rights group said Monday. The fighting abated long enough Monday to allow thousands of people to flee the ruined coastal city on foot and in donkey carts, cars and trucks. Some 47,000 people - mainly women and children - have abandoned their homes in the last 10 days, according to the U.N. refugee agency.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6476 views] Top|| File under:

Peacekeepers die in Darfur border attack
Unidentified gunmen have killed five African Union peacekeepers in the Darfur region of western Sudan. The five were guarding a water point near the Sudanese border with Chad when they came under fire on Monday. Four soldiers were killed in the shooting and the fifth died of his wounds. Three gunmen were also killed.

The chairman of the African Union Commission, Alpha Oumar Konare, warned that continued violence raised the possibility of "a catastrophic and tragic breakdown of the security and humanitarian situation in Darfur". The AU has a 7000-strong force in Darfur. Sudan has rejected having a larger UN force in the region, where violence continues despite last year's peace agreement between the Government and one rebel faction.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6472 views] Top|| File under:

#1  a catastrophic and tragic breakdown of the security and humanitarian situation in Darfur

As opposed to right now?
Posted by: Reuters, Photoshop division || 04/04/2007 7:46 Comments || Top||

Africa North
Three Dead In Alleged Al-Qaeda Attack
Algiers, 4 April (AKI) - Three Algerian soldiers died and seven others were wounded in an attack in Biskra, west of Algiers, attributed to an al-Qaeda-linked local terror group, local reports said on Wednesday. Militants with the Organisation of al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the former Salafite Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC), attacked the military convoy near the village of al-Ihbal, near where a similar attack was reportedly carried out by the group's members last week. The attacks follow a major anti-terror police operation in the northern Kabylia region.

Hundreds of militants have surrendered from 28 February until late August last year under a national reconciliation plan promoted by the government, which granted immunity to militants who turned themselves in provided they had not participated in massacres, rapes or bombings of public places. However, the offshoot of the GSPC, the Organisation of al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb is the only militant group to have remained active in the country after it refused to abandon the armed struggle in exchange for the amnesty.

An Algerian Islamic insurgency started in 1992 after authorities cancelled elections an Islamist party was poised to win. The insurgency is now conducted by the GSPC's heirs with an estimated 500 militants, significantly less than in the 1990s when some 30,000 insurgents operated in the country.
Posted by: Steve || 04/04/2007 09:14 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6477 views] Top|| File under:

Down Under
John Howard bans Islamic leader
THE Howard Government has banned a radical Muslim sheik from entering Australia to speak at a major Islamic conference in Melbourne on the weekend. Sheik Bilal Philips, who has been linked to the 1993 World Trade Centre bombings in New York, was refused a visa at the last moment by Department of Immigration officials, sources told the Herald Sun. It is believed the department acted on advice from national security agencies.

Sheik Philips, 50, a Canadian citizen who lives in Qatar, once wrote: "Western culture, led by the United States, is the enemy of Islam." The US Government named him as an "unindicted co-conspirator" in the 1993 bombings that killed six people and injured 1000. He was deported from the US in 2004.

A second speaker billed to attend the first annual Australian Islamic Conference at Melbourne University on Easter weekend has been asked to show cause why he should be allowed to enter the country. Sources said it was unlikely that Sheik Jaafer Idris, a Saudi-based academic, would be able to provide information in time. Four other foreign Islamic speakers have been granted visas, including controversial Briton Yvonne Ridley, who has described suicide bombings as "martyrdom operations".

Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews confirmed last night that Sheik Philips' visitor application had been refused. "The department checks each individual against the movement alert list, which contains approximately three million records of persons of concern, including those who may pose a national security risk," Mr Andrews said. "My department works closely with security and law enforcement agencies to ensure the data held on the movement alert list is accurate and current."

Mr Andrews said that all visitors to Australia had to meet character checks as part of the visa application process. "I can assure you that in all cases my department conducted the usual checks and screening processes," he said.

The Melbourne University conference is sponsored by the Islamic organisation Mercy Mission, which is promoting the event with the slogan "Islamic values are universal values".
The Melbourne University conference is sponsored by the Islamic organisation Mercy Mission, which is promoting the event with the slogan "Islamic values are universal values".

Sheik Philips was born Dennis Philips in Jamaica. His family moved to Canada when he was 11. He was a Communist Party activist before converting to Islam. He holds to a radical form of the religion that advocates marriage to pre-pubescent girls, public executions and stonings. During the first Gulf War, Sheik Philips helped to convert hundreds of American soldiers to Islam while they were encamped in Saudi Arabia, according to US Government reports. He told the London weekly Al-Majallah that he was employed by the Saudi military to run a camp for cultural information at a US army barracks solely to win over US troops to Islam. Sheik Philips has advocated on his website that "the cutting of hands and heads, stoning of people to death, and (public) lashings are only to be held on Fridays".

Sheik Idris, 76, a Sudanese citizen now teaching in Saudi Arabia, espouses the radical form of Islam known as Wahhabism.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6476 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Three cheers for Australia and their willing recognition of the Islamic enemy that threatens us all. If there is one single country that should be exempt from laws limiting immigration into America, it is those who loyaly uphold Australian law.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 0:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Australia in some ways is more American than America.
Posted by: Mike N. || 04/04/2007 0:55 Comments || Top||

#3  This guy is a real winner ,he was hooked up with Clement Rodney Hampton-El of the 93 bombings trial, not the NY Giants :)

Good on Australia for having the balls to tell these guys to piss off
Posted by: Flolumble Elmuling1667 || 04/04/2007 1:52 Comments || Top||

#4  ...Clement Rodney Hampton-El from the 1993 WTC bombings

Posted by: Flolumble Elmuling1667 || 04/04/2007 1:55 Comments || Top||

#5  It they had detained him at the airport, granted him a speedy trial and speedier justice they could have shipped him back in a box on the return flight.
Posted by: Excalibur || 04/04/2007 9:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Should've let him in, then arrested him and sent him to Club Git'mo. They have an orange pantsuit just his size.
Posted by: JabbaTheTutt || 04/04/2007 9:52 Comments || Top||

#7  "the cutting of hands and heads, stoning of people to death, and (public) lashings are only to be held on Fridays".

TGI Fridays? oh wait "on" not "at" ...
Posted by: flash91 || 04/04/2007 10:17 Comments || Top||

#8  I would agree.

Islam, is the enemy of Western culture, led by the United States.

the left are also the enemy of Western culture, especially the United States.

Hence their alliance.

Islam is spread by the sword, Leftism by the state.

Posted by: Bright Pebbles in Blairistan || 04/04/2007 10:36 Comments || Top||

#9  Well put Pebbles.

At least Howard is trying to protect his nation. Something Bush and his brother have no interest in. During the last Florida election Jeb was running his mouth off denoucing a husband and wife who were condeming Islam. Jeb may not be as big of a twit but he is too a Dhimmi.

Deported to Cuba. Next best thing to hanging him at the port with pig entrails. We can only dream.
Posted by: Icerigger || 04/04/2007 11:37 Comments || Top||

#10  It occurs to me that the Global War on Terrorism will most likely not be won until every single person on earth who supports the imposition of sharia law is dead or dieing.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 12:10 Comments || Top||

#11  Nice Google thread for Fred.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/04/2007 20:36 Comments || Top||

Home Front: WoT
Guilty Plea In New York Terror Case
A Baltimore man who attended an Islamist guerrilla training camp in Pakistan pleaded guilty in New York to a terrorism charge. Mahmud Faruq Brent, 32, faces up to 15 years in jail at his July 10 sentencing, The Washington Post reported. Brent, who is also known as Mahmud Al Mutazzim, was scheduled to go on trial April 24 with two other defendants. His lawyer, Hassen Ibn Abdellah, told the Post Brent didn't plan to testify against the other defendants.

Brent pleaded guilty Monday in U.S. District Court in Manhattan to conspiring to aid a group on the U.S. terrorism list, the Lashkar-e-Taiba, by attending one of its training camps. He was arrested in 2005 and has admitted attending the camp in 2002, the Post reported.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6478 views] Top|| File under:

Clashes in Pakistan kill 60 near border
DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan - Heavy fighting between Pakistani tribesmen and foreign militants allegedly linked to al-Qaida has killed 60 people near the Afghan border, security officials said Wednesday.

Local tribes turned viciously against foreigners living in the lawless South Waziristan region on March 19. The government says the violence shows Pakistan is winning its fight against international terrorism.

About 50 of those killed in the past 24 hours in the South Waziristan region were Uzbeks, three security officials told The Associated Press. About 10 local tribesmen and one Pakistani soldier also died, they said.
Posted by: ed || 04/04/2007 08:56 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6473 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Man, the Uzbeks have been getting their asses handed to them. How have they survived this long, if there's only about a thousand of them, and they keep getting waxed by the locals at those sorts of exchange ratios?
Posted by: Mitch H. || 04/04/2007 9:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Who is providing the statistics?
Posted by: ed || 04/04/2007 9:46 Comments || Top||

#3  My math has 250 killed out of 2,000. Decent attrition at 12.5% for a combat unit but very low for terrorists who required 100% fatalities. It's a good start but more prgress needed. We also need a few deaths on the tribal side as well. We need the Uzbeks to bomb a market or hit another respected tribal leader to keep this going. The 900 man Laskar will need a target after the Uzbeks are gone aka us. We need the Tribals degraded as well.
Posted by: Rightwing || 04/04/2007 10:54 Comments || Top||

Six hurt in grenade attack in Srinagar
Suspected separatist militants in Indian Kashmir threw a grenade at a security bunker on a crowded street in the region’s main city on Tuesday, wounding at least a half-dozen people, police said. “The aim of the grenade was a security bunker, but it bounced back and exploded near a busy street crossing,” a police officer, who did not want to be named, said. No militant group claimed responsibility for the attack, which took place near Niad Kadal, a residential area in Srinagar.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6475 views] Top|| File under:

Tribesmen raise 900-man army to fight foreign militants
A tribal army of 900 volunteers was raised on Tuesday to support Maulvi Nazir, a pro-government militant commander waging a fight against Uzbek militants and their local supporters in South Waziristan. A jirga of Ahmedzai Wazirs met again in Wana’s Rustam Bazaar to consider the request for a lashkar from Nazir, the ameer of the Taliban in South Waziristan, against Uzbeks resisting attempts to be expelled from the area, according to reports reaching here. “Tribal elders of Ahmedzai Wazirs gathered in the bazaar and approved raising a lashkar of 900 volunteers,” said the reports.

Around 200 people, mostly Uzbeks, have been killed in ongoing clashes between Nazir’s supporters and the Uzbek militants and their local sympathisers in the Azam Warsak, Kaloosha and Karikot areas since last month. “Around 200 volunteers have left for Azam Warsak and Karikot areas to back Nazir’s men against the Uzbeks, who have put up a strong resistance so far,” a tribal elder told Daily Times in Tank after returning from Wana.

Asked why the fight against the Uzbeks was taking so long, the elder said, “The Uzbeks are resisting because some of the Ahmedzai Wazir sub-tribes are supporting them. And secondly, the Uzbeks are getting help from Mazar-e-Sharif (a northern town in Afghanistan bordering Uzbekistan),” but stopped short of giving details of the help from the northern Afghan city.

The Uzbek militants are in full control of western parts of Wana, such as Azam Warsak and Kaloosha, giving themselves a safe passage to the Afghan border, while Maulvi Nazir is strong in the eastern and southern parts of Wana and cannot cut off Uzbek supply lines from the Afghan border. “If the Uzbeks are getting any supply of weapons or anything else from across the border, that Maulvi Nazir might not know,” said a former security official in Tank city. He said Maulvi Nazir would have to cut off the Uzbeks’ supply lines, if any, from across the border.

A pamphlet, distributed in Wana Bazaar by Nazir’s supporters, claimed that Uzbek commander Tahir Yuldashev of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan “is an agent of America and Afghan President Hamid Karzai, and liable to be killed”. The elder said the Uzbeks were “spreading terror” across Wazir areas to “neutralise Nazir’s majority”.

The former security official said the battle would decide the future of Waziristan, and defeat for Maulvi Nazir would be as “devastating for Pakistan as it would be for the Taliban ameer”. Since March 19, when the clashes began, the Uzbek militants and their sympathisers have held firm against Maulvi Nazir. However, Nazir’s supporters appear to be “in high spirits” following the approval of the 900-man army.
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#1  That's a lot of drummers.
Posted by: Jackal || 04/04/2007 7:48 Comments || Top||

#2  I think they're still recruiting horn players and triangle bangers.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 11:06 Comments || Top||

#3  The sweet sound of Red-on-Red.
Posted by: anymouse || 04/04/2007 13:42 Comments || Top||

Foreign militants massacred journalist's family in Waziristan
Foreign militants killed the brother, father, uncle, and cousin of Din Muhammad, a reporter for Urdu language newspaper Inkishaf, at his home in South Waziristan in apparent retribution for his work, the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) quoted his colleagues as saying on Tuesday. Three other family members were also abducted. It is not clear whether Din Muhammed was among them.

“We are sickened by this massacre,” said CPJ Executive Director Joel Simon. “We call on authorities to immediately investigate these brutal murders and to do all they can to locate our colleague Din Muhammed.”

The newspaper journalist’s 15-year-old brother Muhammed Islam, father Muhammed Amir, and a cousin were killed in a gunfight at the journalist’s house on Sunday, according to local and international news reports. The suspected foreign militants also abducted three family members, and publicly executed an uncle of the journalist. The fate of the other three is not known. Three of the militants were also killed when the family members returned fire, the New York-based CPJ said.

Din Muhammad had accompanied a group of visiting journalists to the town of Wana on March 25 to meet with local tribal militant commanders. Few journalists from outside the area have dared to travel to Wana to report on a fresh conflict between local Waziri tribesmen and Uzbek militants with suspected links to Al Qaeda, said Peshawar-based journalists.

“We were advised not to go to Wana. It is the most dangerous place,” said Mushtaq Yusufzai, a reporter for an English-language daily and a cameraman for NBC News, who was in the group. “Muhammad assured us that we would be safe. But we were afraid that he would feel the consequences for doing his job.”

The group spoke with local commanders including Haji Nazeer, who is leading the drive against suspected foreign militants who took refuge in the tribal regions of Pakistan after fleeing Afghanistan in 2001.
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New Insurgent Group "Iraqi Hamas" Emerges On Video
Baghdad, 4 April (AKI) - The first video attributed to a new Iraqi insurgent group was posted to radical Islamist internet forums on Wednesday. The three-minute film, entitled "The First Operation of Iraqi Hamas" showed the explosion of a roadside bomb in the Baghdad suburbs, as a truck supplying the US military bases passes by. The group is believed to have been formed at the end of March from a split within the 1920s Brigades, a group responsible for numerous kidnapping and suicide bombs. Some analysts believe "Iraqi Hamas" comprises militiamen linked to the Islamic party in parliament and to the local chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood.

A man described as the group's representative in Jordan, Muhammad Ayash al-Kubeisi, told Al Jazeera "we fight the infidels and want the withdrawal of the Americans, but we do not consider the other Iraqis as apostates. For us, they are citizens, just as we are, and we want a dialogue with them. "We do not have any organisational link with Hamas [the militant group in the Palestinian territories] but we follow its doctrine and we take our inspiration from them" he said. "We share their vision of carrying out armed resistance and at the same time standing as candidates and being involved in politics."

Regarding the al-Qaeda network, Iraqi Hamas considers its action to be limited to the country and is not interested in taking part in a global battle against the West. In radical Islamist web forums many al-Qaeda supporters have strongly criticisied the birth of this new formation They consider it a provocation; particularly given the recent criticism by al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri, who blasted Hamas for joining a national unity government with the PA president Mahmoud Abbas, of the more moderate Fatah faction.

In recent weeks, most Iraqi Sunni guerilla groups have sided with the tribes of the restive al-Anbar province against the terrorists of al-Qaeda and the government of Nouri al-Maliki has begun negotiations to try to involve them in the political process.
Posted by: Steve || 04/04/2007 09:11 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6479 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We share their vision of carrying out armed resistance and at the same time standing as candidates and being involved in politics

Jeez, someone wax these suckers quick, please.
Posted by: DanNY || 04/04/2007 9:30 Comments || Top||

#2  We share their vision of carrying out armed resistance and at the same time standing as candidates and being involved in politics

Good old Democrat Party values!
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 04/04/2007 10:03 Comments || Top||

#3  If ever there was an infant organization that needed to be strangled in the cradle, this one is it. After all, look at their splendid track record with the Palestinians.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 10:35 Comments || Top||

#4  there jus wanna liver in joorooslem to.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/04/2007 14:30 Comments || Top||

#5  Hey mucky long time no see
Posted by: djohn66 || 04/04/2007 14:59 Comments || Top||

#6  If ever there was an infant organization that needed to be strangled in the cradle, this one is it. After all, look at their splendid track record with the Palestinians.

Sorry, Zen. There's kind of two threads going on here. Are you referring to Iraqi Hamas or the Democrats?
Posted by: gorb || 04/04/2007 15:18 Comments || Top||

#7  Are you referring to Iraqi Hamas or the Democrats?

It's pretty easy to tell. One's an infant organization, the other's an organization of infants.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 16:45 Comments || Top||

Politicians Fed Up with "Unnecessary Searches" by US Troops
Although the original title suggests it is all Iraqis - except, possibly, the "Iraq, The Model" blogger.
Government officials and lawmakers say they are fed up with what they feel are unnecessary searches by American troops and private security contractors in the Green Zone and persuaded President Jalal Talabani to take action, his office said Tuesday. The president, a Kurd, set up a committee to develop new security rules and then meet with U.S. officials to agree on a new relationship between American-led coalition forces and all Iraqis, not just government officials and lawmakers.

The statement gave no other details, but Shiite legislator, Bassem Sharif, who attended the session at which the committee was established, said politicians complained bitterly about being searched every time they went into the parliament or Cabinet building.
We're special, just like the US Congress!
Only Talabani, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and Parliament Speaker Mahmoud Mashhadani are not searched under current practice.

An example of some complaints included a recent incident in which the U.S. military closed the Baghdad airport and wouldn't allow Vice President Adel Abdul-Mahdi's plane to land on a return trip from Turkey. He was forced to fly back to Ankara and spend the night.

Another incident involved the son of Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, the head of the largest bloc in parliament, who was taken into U.S. custody for 12 hours in February after crossing from Iran with bodyguards, Sharif said.

After his release, Ammar al-Hakim asked, "Is this the way to deal with a national figure? This does not conform with Iraq's sovereignty."

The new committee includes Abdul-Mahdi and the ministers of the interior, foreign affairs, defense and the national security adviser, the statement said.
Posted by: Bobby || 04/04/2007 05:52 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6475 views] Top|| File under:

#1  From my feeble perspective:

Maybe lighten up a bit on the high level government figures, but they still need to be checked given the terrorist tendency to wreak havoc by blending in and taking advantage of the society's customs.

Without knowing anything about the situation, stopping that plane from landing sounds like they're trying to generate ill will. At least be able to give a reasonable explanation and an apology.

Besides, even Al Gore has to deal with the same crap here thanks to terrorists.

And I'm sorry, unless that trip by al-Hakim's son was official business, I say search and debrief him. What sort of legitimate business might he have in Iran that is so important? Again they head right back to the "it's who you know" mentality.

And even if they do relax the rules, why not reserve the right to search the crap out of them about a quarter of the time or if there is reasonable cause? Guaranteed to make someone think twice before doing something they shouldn't; and if even one soldier dies or gets injured because of something connected to a relaxation in the rules, the hammer comes down again, so they better police the people they grant any special privilges to in order to satisfy their egos.
Posted by: gorb || 04/04/2007 6:40 Comments || Top||

#2  "politicians complained bitterly about being searched "

Are they really that confident that all the OTHER politicians are not psycho? Or that NO other politician's family could ever be held hostage to induce him to smuggle in a bomb or explode himself to save them? Same question I have about why Muslims would complain about being 'profiled' and searched getting on airplanes - do THEY trust all the other young Muslim men who might get on the plane?
Posted by: Glenmore || 04/04/2007 8:06 Comments || Top||

#3  What a coincidence. Only 2 days ago: Suicide vests found in Baghdad's Green Zone

Verlaine comments: The key problem seems to be the Iraqi security elements attached to Iraqi politicians and officials. I recall the first scare of this kind (public) last year, and it was connected to an Iraqi bodyguard unit. But I really don't know a lot of the details, naturally.

So their bodyguards bring in the explosives and co-conspirators go all explode-a-matic, giving credible deniability. Their meetings with the Quds Force agents must have been productive.

As for the plane, what would these same ministers scream if it were given landing permission during a SAM alert and then blown out of the sky? Typical muslim damned the infidel if you do, damned if you don't.
Posted by: ed || 04/04/2007 8:11 Comments || Top||

#4  The politicians don't like it, they can live outside the green zone.


(Can anyone else tell I'm sick of bottom feeders?)
Posted by: DarthVader || 04/04/2007 8:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Didn't one of the vice presidents nearly get waxed by one of his own munchkins whom he got bounced out of stir a few weeks prior? Didn't this happen last week? What, do they think we don't read the papers?
Posted by: Mitch H. || 04/04/2007 9:38 Comments || Top||

#6  Another incident involved the son of Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, the head of the largest bloc in parliament, who was taken into U.S. custody for 12 hours in February after crossing from Iran with bodyguards, Sharif said.

So his son should get the privileges of an office he wasn't elected to?

I don't think so, Sparky.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 04/04/2007 10:14 Comments || Top||

#7  "So his son should get the privileges of an office he wasn't elected to?"

Sounds like George W. to me.
Posted by: Pliny Cleager9233 || 04/04/2007 10:33 Comments || Top||

#8  Pliny, math or law isn't your strong suit. Have you considered a career path more suited to your talents, like Democratic Party activist or male prostitute?
Posted by: ed || 04/04/2007 10:53 Comments || Top||

#9  ed improves the whole day, ouch!
Posted by: Red Dog || 04/04/2007 11:10 Comments || Top||

#10  darth sounds like you hit it right on the nose too me.
Posted by: sinse || 04/04/2007 11:54 Comments || Top||

#11  As soon as they stop 'unnecessary searches', some little exploding weasel is going to slip thru that security hole.

As an aside, in #8 was ed defaming male prostitutes? Yeah, it's a creepy profession, but it seems more honorable than Democratic Party activist.
Posted by: SteveS || 04/04/2007 12:20 Comments || Top||

#12  Only Talabani, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and Parliament Speaker Mahmoud Mashhadani are not searched under current practice. Hell, search them too!
Glenmore, excellent point. I've always felt folks that are expected to get preferential treatment would be the most dangerous as yes they could bring in something, being coerced to do so.

Posted by: Jan from work || 04/04/2007 12:53 Comments || Top||

Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/04/2007 21:35 Comments || Top||

#14  Mandatory deep cavity searches for all Iraqi pols. Make them look back upon checkpoint stops with fond memories. These sniveling terrorist elites can all suck hind tit.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 22:31 Comments || Top||

German hostages have 10 days to live
IRAQI militants holding a German woman and her son hostage said today they were giving Germany a new deadline of 10 days to withdraw its troops from Afghanistan or the two would be killed. The Arrows of Righteousness group posted a video on the Internet showing Hannelore Marianne Krause urging Germany to heed the demands of the militants.

The group had issued an earlier ultimatum on March 10 that it would kill the pair if Berlin failed to pull out its troops from Afghanistan. The two were seized from their home in the western Baghdad district of Ghazaliya in early February. "I urge the German people to help me in my difficult situation," said Mrs Krause, according to an Arabic translation of her comments, only part of which could be heard. "Germany was safe before it got involved in this satanic coalition with America against what they call terrorism," said Mrs Krause, shown sitting on the ground next to her son.

A militant speaking on the video but out of sight said: "We are giving the German government another 10 days to begin withdrawing its troops from Afghanistan or we shall kill this criminal woman and her son who works in the Foreign Ministry of the government of (Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-) Maliki".

The woman is married to an Iraqi physician and moved to Iraq 40 years ago. Her son is reported to be in his mid-20s and has dual German-Iraqi citizenship. The German government has said it is working to try to secure the hostages' release but will not be blackmailed.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6516 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let's see if I understand this....

An Iraqi group is holding hostages to force the Germans out of Afghanistan, right?

But, I thought that Democrats said that there was no relationship between Iraq and Afghanistan. Why would this happen if all the bad guys are in Afghanistan?
Posted by: AlanC || 04/04/2007 9:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Arrows of Righteousness... that's some sort of Mormon reference, right?
Posted by: Excalibur || 04/04/2007 9:23 Comments || Top||

#3  The woman is married to an Iraqi physician and moved to Iraq 40 years ago.

My Grandaddy came to the U.S. in 1919. By 1959 - 40 years later - he was an American, not an Italian, despite his accent.

If somebody'd taken him hostage, I have grave doubts the Italian government would have turned a hair.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 11:15 Comments || Top||

#4  How curious. So many of us who decry Islamic terrorism instantly are condemned as being racist. Does anyone else here beside me suspect that the kidnap of this German woman — who has quite obviously adopted Iraqi culture and the nation of Iraq as her home — was based entirely upon her race?
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 12:36 Comments || Top||

#5  Say it aint so Zen!
Posted by: Mike N. || 04/04/2007 22:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Can't do it. Ain't gonna. Nope. Nope.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 23:34 Comments || Top||

US air strike destroys explosives factory
A US air strike destroyed two large buildings south of the Iraqi capital used to make and store explosives. "Ground forces called in for air support when they found large amounts of chemicals and improvised-explosive-device making materials in two buildings," in the town of Arab Jubur, south of Baghdad, the military said today. The air strike caused no casualties, it said.

Since the launch of a massive security operation in Baghdad in February, Iraqi and US troops have reduced execution-style killings in the capital, but car bombings carried out by suspected Sunni militants remain a major headache. In a bid to stop the flow of explosives into the city, the military is now focusing on detecting bomb-making facilities, which are believed to be largely located on the outskirts of Baghdad.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6474 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Iraqi and US troops have reduced execution-style killings in the capital

So the "Surge" might be working, but you gotta go to Austraila to read about it?

Lemee go check the New York Times; Shirley it'll be there.
Posted by: Bobby || 04/04/2007 5:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Just like Rosie says: If you want to find out what's going on with the US, you have to read the foreign news.

Hey, she's as dumb as they get but she makes up for it by handing out stupid advice.
Posted by: gorb || 04/04/2007 5:43 Comments || Top||

#3  So long as we keep blowing up buildings we will remain in the same impossible position as the Israelis. Time to fax a ClueBat to whoever is running this show: They. Can. Make. Explosives. In. Another. Building.
Posted by: Excalibur || 04/04/2007 9:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Excaliber, the point is that the explosives were too large or dangerous to remove, so they destroy them and the bldg in place via air drop
Posted by: Frank G || 04/04/2007 11:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Ohhh, look at the pretty fireworks.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 04/04/2007 16:40 Comments || Top||

Southeast Asia
Seven Muslim men held in Thai rebellious south
BANGKOK, April 4 (Reuters) - Thai security forces said on Wednesday they had detained seven Muslim men suspected in the beheading of a Buddhist and the killing of three policemen in the rebellious south. The arrests were made in separate raids in the Muslim-majority region, where more than 2,000 people have been killed in three years of separatist insurgency. They said bomb-making components, two-way radios, ammunition and combat gear were found.

Police were looking for two other Muslim men suspected of killing three policemen at a local government office in Pattani province on Tuesday after two were arrested and two shot dead during a pursuit, Colonel Wanchai Puangkhumsap told Reuters. Among those detained were five men suspected of beheading a 75-year-old Buddhist rice miller in Pattani in February. Those raids turned up combat uniforms, electrical wires and nails thought to be used to make bombs, the army said in a statement.

On Wednesday, police and soldiers raided a grocery shop in a mosque in Narathiwat province where they seized seven two-way radios and 60 pistol bullets, but arrested no one, police said.

In the past month, police and soldiers have become more aggressive in countering the insurgents, raiding villages, seizing bomb-making equipment and detaining more than 100 suspected Muslim men and women. The number of bomb attacks seems to have declined, but shooting attacks on both civilians and security forces of both faiths continues. On Wednesday, a roadside bomb exploded and slightly wounded three of 16 policemen in a patrol convoy, police said.

Despite growing calls on the government to take tougher action against the militants, Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont says he will not reverse a softly-softly approach to resolving the insurgency.
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#1  Finally some arrests.
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 || 04/04/2007 15:18 Comments || Top||

3 Thai border police injured by roadside bomb
Three border patrol police were critically injured when insurgents detonated a roadside bomb in Yala province on Wednesday morning. Police said the blast from the 10-kilogramme improvised explosive device (IED) came along a road in Raman village while the police were patrolling.

Meanwhile, about 100 police from Sungai Padi station searched a community cooperative and found military uniforms, walkie-talkies tuned to official frequencies, maps marked with escape routes, and several fake motorcycle plates believed to belong to insurgents. The military equipment was concealed above the ceiling tiles in the community centre. The owner of the cooperative escaped before police arrived at the cache, in front of Ban Dorhae mosque.
Posted by: ryuge || 04/04/2007 05:31 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6477 views] Top|| File under:

Australian & Inodnesian authorities foil terror attack
A SUSPECTED terrorist group foiled by Australian and Indonesian police was planning an attack twice the size of the first Bali bombings, the Australian Federal Police (AFP) says.

AFP deputy commissioner John Lawler said the group was well advanced and had accumulated large quantities of explosives. "Our technical experts are telling us that it's likely to be twice the size of the first Bali bombings," he said on Southern Cross radio. "It's significant because what it's done is prevented, we believe, future bombing attacks in Indonesia.

"The group were well advanced."

Australian and Indonesian police arrested seven men linked to Jemaah Islamiah (JI) in raids in East Java late last month. Indonesian National Police (INP) shot dead an eighth man during the raids. Police seized 20 bombs, 730kg of explosive material, 45kg of TNT, almost 200 detonators, more than a thousand rounds of ammunition and a cache of weapons.

Mr Lawler would not say if the arrested men had a specific target, but said the INP believed the arrested men were planning a bombing campaign directed at a range of public officials. However, he said history showed western interests were usually targets. "We need to look back at the modus operandi of these people and they have targeted western interests in the past and that's a concern," he said. "We think (they were working) within Indonesia and we're working closely with the INP and I think the thing will become clearer the further we go."

The seven suspects have been charged by the INP with terrorism-related offences and will face Indonesian courts soon.

During the raids, police found charts mapping the structure of JI which showed the group had a board. The charts showed the structure of JI, such as names and departments, had changed compared with previous intelligence on the extremist group, anti-terror police chief Brigadier General Surya Dharma said. “It is clear even to laymen that this is an organised operation,” he said in the city of Yogyakarta on Indonesia's main island of Java.
Posted by: Ebbeanter Ulemp4173 || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6475 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fabulous. You're halfway done. Now follow the money and kill everyone who touched.

I'm starting to get a little pissed over the Wests' refusal to kill those who fund terrorism. It's a bit like trying to win the war on drugs by arresting drug addicts and not the Columbian druglords.
Posted by: Mike N. || 04/04/2007 1:03 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm starting to get a little pissed over the Wests' refusal to kill those who fund terrorism.

You realize that would make the Holocaust pale in comparison?
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 04/04/2007 10:16 Comments || Top||

#3  start with some swiss bankers
Posted by: Pliny Cleager9233 || 04/04/2007 10:29 Comments || Top||

#4  You realize that would make the Holocaust pale in comparison?

So what? Do you realize that global Muslim ascendancy would likely result in the death of half this planet's entire population? That's a mere 500 times the number who perished in the Holocaust. I keep taking a beating for predicting the Muslim holocaust and I'll take more lashings here if that's what required to get it clear.

There needs to be a top down purge through successive ranks of terrorist operatives, indoctrination clerics and the financeers of Islamic terrorism. This process needs to continue until every single person on earth who supports the imposition of sharia law is dead or dieing.

Australia's refusal to grant entry for Sheik Bilal Philips has made me realize that any and all who support imposition of sharia law need to be offed pronto. Sharia law must be deemed a direct and totally egregious violation of human rights such that it cannot be installed even by a democratic process of popular vote.

This is a new line in the sand and it extends right down to every single Muslim who dwells in whatever backwater pissant hovel around this entire planet. Sharia law is an affront to all humankind and needs to be treated like the shitheap of rebottled Nazi ideological claptrap that it is.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 11:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Anyone who converts to islam should do so under penalty of death.
Posted by: JohnQC || 04/04/2007 12:19 Comments || Top||

#6  start with some swiss bankers

Don't be absurd, Pliny Cleager9233. The Islamofascists are being funded by Saudi moneymen, Pakistan's ISI, and Iran.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/04/2007 12:27 Comments || Top||

#7  tw, a good chunk of terrorist change, including some of Osama's has a Swiss passport.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 12:47 Comments || Top||

#8  Rob, the moneymen that fund terrorism have to either be locked up for good or die. Extradition is not plausible is most cases. That leaves one option. It's not my fault that there's so many people funding terror.

Unless you would like to try to talk them out of funding terror, we likely have one option.

And whoa Nelly! On the 12 million dead muzzies. Unless you're taking my comment to literally mean kill every cashier at the coffee shop that touch the money, we don't need to off that many moneymen.
Posted by: Mike N. || 04/04/2007 19:24 Comments || Top||

#9  Furthermore, it's a war. People die in a war.

Unless we start to target the most influential, we will end up killing 12 million people. Look how many we have killed already. What's your guess for the next 20 years or so?
Posted by: Mike N. || 04/04/2007 19:27 Comments || Top||

#10  Unless we start to target the most influential, we will end up killing 12 million people.

Absolutely spot fucking on, Mike. While I think that Rob was more referring to those who pay zakat, your own point still stands. The West must find the moral authority to begin killing the following people:

1. Ayman al-Zawahiri
2. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
3. Ayatolla Kahmeini
4. Mullah Muhammad Omar
5. Abu Bakar Ba'asyir (Bashir)
6. Moqtada Sadr,
7. Abu Hamza al-Masri,
8. Mullah Krekar (AKA: Abu Sayyid Qutb),
9. Khaled Meshal
10. Sheikh Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah
11. Ismail Haniya
12. Mohammed Abbas
13. Yusuf al-Qaradawi
14. imam Ahmed Abu Laban
15. Sheikh Taj Al-Din Al-Hilali
16. imam Omar Bakri Mohammed
17. imam Abdel-Samie Mahmoud Ibrahim Moussa
18. imam Sheikh SyeSyed Mubarik Ali Gilani
19. Abdullah al-Faisal
20. Sheik Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi
21. Dr. Mahmoud al-Zahar
22. Prince Sultan Ibn Abd al-Aziz
23. Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz
24. Prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz

Any inability to do so will only hasten the Muslim holocaust that I adamantly predict. Sadly, there is absolutely ZERO indication that the West will ever understand the influential role these charismatic and persuasive individuals play in high context Muslim societies or the terrorist financing and acts that result from their activities.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 19:55 Comments || Top||

#11  I'm OK with that list, Zen, just waiting for Pg 2
Posted by: Frank G || 04/04/2007 20:09 Comments || Top||

#12  We'll probably have to check off pages 2, 3 and 4 before Islam even begins to pause in its tracks. Feel free to make any suggestions of your own. The more that lists of this sort get published and circulated, the greater likelihood that they will reach the eyes of those who are on them. Just the sheer existence of such lists might begin to put a wee bit of fear into them. Then again, maybe not. These are not the most logical or sane inmates in the asylum.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 20:22 Comments || Top||

#13  Gentlemen, we don't need to make any new lists cuz Freds' already made one for us.

Feast your eyes on Thugburg.
Posted by: Mike N. || 04/04/2007 20:59 Comments || Top||

7 suspected terrorists moved to Indonesian capital for interrogation
Seven suspected members of the al-Qaida-linked Jemaah Islamiyah were flown to the Indonesian capital Tuesday for interrogation by national police hoping to crack the shadowy terror network. Investigators said the arrests of the men last week in Central and East Java provinces — together with the discovery of a massive cache of weapons, explosives and detonators — may have helped thwart as many as 20 planned attacks. "We're bringing them to Jakarta so we can interrogate them further," National Police Chief Gen. Sutanto told reporters as the suspects boarded an airplane in the Central Java town of Yogyakarta. "We want to learn everything we can about this network."

The men are believed to be members of Jemaah Islamiyah, which is seeking to create an Islamic state across Southeast Asia. The network has been blamed for a string of deadly bombings in Indonesia — the world's most populous Muslim country — in the last five years. Four of the suspects were captured during a March 20 raid on a busy street near the city of Yogyakarta, authorities said, and those suspects eventually tipped off police to the whereabouts of the other three in East Java. An eighth suspect was fatally shot by police. Among the evidence seized in the two raids were 20 active bombs, 800 kilograms (1,700 pounds) of explosives, nearly 20 detonators, three M-16 automatic rifles, six pistols, and 1,500 bullets, police said.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6479 views] Top|| File under:

Indonesian police find JI terror charts
Police in Indonesia say they have found charts mapping the structure of the extremist group Jemaah Islamiyah. Police say the photocopied charts show the names and departments have changed compared with previous intelligence on the extremist group. They say JI now also has a "military wing" led by Abu Dujana, which is tasked with collecting explosives and arms for attacks. The photocopies were found after raids in Indonesia last month in which one suspected militant was shot dead and seven others arrested. The raids led to a major seizure of bombs and weapons, which police say would have been used in future atrocities. JI has been blamed for the Bali bombings as well as the attacks on the Marriott Hotel and the Australian embassy in Jakarta.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6473 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What'd they do, accidentally trip over them in the dark?
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 10:59 Comments || Top||

Sri Lanka
23 Tamil rebels killed in Sri Lankan clashes
Government soldiers killed 23 separatist Tamil rebels during a fierce clash in eastern Sri Lanka as the army attempted to regain control of the area, the military said Tuesday. The battle erupted late Monday while the soldiers were on an operation in the village of Unnichchai in the eastern Batticaloa district, military spokesman Brig Prasad Samarasinghe said. The military has launched several attacks in recent weeks to capture rebel bases and regain control of the east of the island, part of the area the rebels claim for an independent homeland.

The military recovered 10 bodies of rebels and was preparing to hand them over to the guerrillas through the International Committee of the Red Cross, Samarasinghe said, adding that two soldiers were wounded in the clash. Separately, in the northern Vavuniya district, army troops killed two insurgents Monday evening, Lt Col Upali Rajapakse of the defence ministry said.

He said assault rifles, detonators and a radio set were found with the bodies. Rebel officials could not be reached for comment. Heavy violence in recent days has included the rebels’ first air raid, a naval battle, a suicide bombing, government air strikes and a bomb blast on a bus that killed 16 people and wounded 25, as the tropical island edges toward a resumption of full-scale civil war.

The victims of the bus blast near the eastern town of Ampara on Monday were mostly from the country’s Sinhalese ethnic majority, Samarasinghe said, blaming the Tamil rebels for the attack. A Tamil Tiger spokesman, Rasiah Ilanthirayan, denied their involvement and condemned the killing of innocent civilians. “We believe that this was carried out by forces who are opposed to us to create a bad name for us when the SAARC meeting is being held in India,” he said.

The international Red Cross on Tuesday condemned a bus bombing on Sri Lanka’s eastern coast which left 16 people dead, including three children, and injured 25 others. “The International Committee of the Red Cross deplores the civilian casualties caused by an attack yesterday on a civilian bus in Ambalangoda, Ampara district,” it said in a statement. “The ICRC is deeply concerned about the rising number of civilians being injured or killed as a result of deliberate attacks in Sri Lanka’s escalating violence,” said Toon Vandenhove, head of the ICRC delegation in Colombo.
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Easter "gift": Iran says freeing kidnapped British sailors
The President of Iran shook hands with the British hostages this afternoon after announcing he was freeing them. The men were dressed in ill-fitting suits and Leading Seaman Faye Turney, the only woman in the 15-strong patrol of marines and sailors, wore a blue headscarf and very unbecoming pink shirt; it was not thought she had shaken hands with the president.

The sailors will leave Tehran early Thursday and arrive at London's Heathrow airport around 1200 GMT, said Robin Air, father of Royal Marine Capt. Chris Air. Families will be reunited with the crew later Thursday at a military base, he said.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/04/2007 16:03 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6597 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sorry. Posted too soon again -- this should be Iran.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/04/2007 16:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Fixed...
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/04/2007 16:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Looks like Blair's 48-hour ultimatum worked. Wonder what it contained.
Posted by: crosspatch || 04/04/2007 16:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Muslims don't celebrate Easter.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 16:41 Comments || Top||

#5  I see the Iranians have their hostages tricked out in civilian clothing. They look more like a varsity debate team than members of British Naval Service.

Which I suppose was the intent.
Posted by: mrp || 04/04/2007 16:42 Comments || Top||

#6  I got an easter gift for Armadhicokcy.
Posted by: DarthVader || 04/04/2007 17:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Muslims don't celebrate Easter.

Of course, Zenster, but the Brits do, and now they get to be grateful to Iran for giving them reason to celebrate instead of mourn -- in Ahmadenijad's mind he's the magnanimous Muslim protecting the dhimmis from their own rulers. From further in the posted article:

Mr Ahmadinejad said he had pardoned them as an Easter present for the British people and to mark the birthday of the Prophet Mohammed.

Posted by: trailing wife || 04/04/2007 17:00 Comments || Top||

#8  If it's an Easter gift when they give them back, what gift was it when they took them?
Posted by: plainslow || 04/04/2007 17:02 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm still waiting to see what the quid pro quo was for all this.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 17:05 Comments || Top||

#10  The HMS Vengence can now go back to targeting Argentina.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/04/2007 17:19 Comments || Top||

#11  Seems Syria is claiming that they 'helped'.

You have to wonder if Nancy make any promises in the name of the United States while she was there....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/04/2007 17:24 Comments || Top||

#12  Great Britain made no "48 hour" utilmatum.

GB folded. A deal was cut. We don't know the particulars, but they'll be made known in due course.

The EU, UN, and NATO left GB hanging dry. Abandoned. But that is no excuse. GB, once upon a time, had the wherewithal to handle the crisis on their own. That is no longer true.

GB's military personnel folded quicker than their gov't. Folded w/o pressure or coersion. Anybody see a bruise on the faces of the Brit personnel laying prostrate at the feet of Islam on television. No? Neither did I.

The Brit military returning home as a "gift" from the Iranian state of terrorism should be
shunned for flagrant cowardice "under fire". No...not under fire...under "threat" of fire...Sheesh. Your military best be able to point to scars and bruises earned while holding out against the onslaught of Iranian torture. No brusies? No scars? Then you're all just punks, right?

If the Brits have any hope and want to remain part of Western Civ, they might want to recall the example set by Fabrizio Quatorrchi. Who was he? Just an Italian MAN who taught the muzzies how a MAN is prepared to die. Clearly, the Brits know nothing of the example set by Fabrizzio. Or of John Moyse.

Think I am too harsh with the Brits? Fu*k you and your parents. Your parents raised you to be pussies. And your parents are pussies. Which is why we are where we're at now in this war. A generation ago, by this time, this is all over. And the good guys win. I can't say that now because of the cowards I have to share this country with now.

I'm angry. It's well past time to start killing.

Posted by: Mark Z || 04/04/2007 17:34 Comments || Top||

#13  Strike that: I meant "two generations" ago this matter would have been settled. Those people knew what it meant to be free and what it took to remain free.
Posted by: Mark Z || 04/04/2007 17:43 Comments || Top||

#14  So did the US give back any Iranian "diplomats" caught in Iraq as part of the quid pro quo? The pain in my side said "yes." But that's just me.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/04/2007 17:43 Comments || Top||

#15  "Great Britain made no "48 hour" utilmatum."

Yes they certainly did. What Blair said in public was:

the next 48 hours would be "fairly critical" in resolving the dispute.

"All the way through this, we've had two tracks on this," Blair said in an interview with Real Radio in Glasgow.

"One is to make sure Iran understands that the pressure is there available to us if this thing has to be hard and tough and long."

The other option is a peaceful resolution, the prime minister said.

According to The Ledger. The AP reported:

Blair said earlier Tuesday the next 48 hours would be critical to resolving the standoff over the British personnel

Remember that what is said in public and what is said in private are two different things. But in bringing up a specific time ... 48 hours ... Blair was sending an important message to the public that things were going to take a dramatic change after that point if the issue wasn't settled.

It was settled within that time. I was saying that I wondered what was told privately to Iran.
Posted by: crosspatch || 04/04/2007 18:07 Comments || Top||

#16  We'll probably find out in a decade or so.
Posted by: Mac || 04/04/2007 18:10 Comments || Top||

#17  "We'll probably find out in a decade or so."

Or maybe even two. The bottom line is, Iran blinked.
Posted by: crosspatch || 04/04/2007 18:14 Comments || Top||

#18  I'm also in the "Iran blinked" club. The hostages had no additional PR value. Blair DID issue a veiled 48 hr deadline. Timmy's The twelfth Imami is in the well, and they all know he ain't coming out on Friday...
Posted by: Frank G || 04/04/2007 18:42 Comments || Top||

#19  I wonder if Iran still has all it subs, don't they have a few?
Posted by: djohn66 || 04/04/2007 18:50 Comments || Top||

#20  yes - diesel electrics (3 or 4, IIRC, neither CIA fact book or FAS.org list actual numbers)
Posted by: Frank G || 04/04/2007 19:01 Comments || Top||

#21  ok then if you want to send a message to the mullahs that you mean business, but don't want the world to think your starting a war wouldn't subs not coming home send a nice message.
Posted by: djohn66 || 04/04/2007 19:03 Comments || Top||

#22  I hope you don't mind an off-topic comment, but this is important: There is a great post on The Carpetbagger Report from a few days ago about the mainstream media's (specifically Time magazine's) ignoring the prosecutor purge scandal.


What explains the failure of the mainstream media to cover the purge scandal for so long, and so many other scandals? Do you think somebody just set up newspaper editors to cheat on their wives, and threatened to tell if the editors wouldn’t play ball when they come back some day and ask for something?

It wouldn’t be that hard to do, when you think about it. People wouldn’t talk about it.
Posted by: Swan || 04/04/2007 19:05 Comments || Top||

#23  uh huh....riiiggghhtttt. The media has ignored the prosecutor firing story? Are you high? Ohhhh an academic.... nevermind
Posted by: Frank G || 04/04/2007 19:09 Comments || Top||

#24  The bottom line is, Iran blinked.

How can you be so sure? Too many previous back door deals, secretly paid ransoms and "prisoner releases exchanges" have gone down around these sort of adbuctions to justify such an optimistic conjecture. While we are both making assumptions, mine tends to be supported more by previous patterns of conduct. Islam's gangsters are too often rewarded rather than punished for their thuggery. Were the opposite true, Iran never would have abducted those British sailors in the first place.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 19:21 Comments || Top||

#25  I did read somewhere around here about Clinton firing all the prosecutors, including the one investigating him.

By wacking them all, he got rid of the overzealous guy chasing after him. Funny, I don't remember a big outcry at the time.

Hey! Maybe that's what Swan was talking about?
Posted by: Bobby || 04/04/2007 19:23 Comments || Top||

#26  Zen - I guess we'll have to wait to see how long before they pull the stunt again.
Posted by: Bobby || 04/04/2007 19:24 Comments || Top||

#27  "While we are both making assumptions, mine tends to be supported more by previous patterns"

But no actual facts. On the other hand, I quoted Tony Blair who made an explicit reference to a 48-hour time period and in the same breath mentioned that there were two possible paths while hinting that the second path would be a difficult one yet he was prepared to embark on it if required.

When you get some evidence of your speculation, please do post it because it would be very interesting. What we have given them is a chance to save some face and not look completely idiotic. As far as I know the only thing they have been given is a chance to visit with their operators who were arrested inside Iraq. If you have any specific knowledge of anything else, please, don't hold back.
Posted by: crosspatch || 04/04/2007 19:30 Comments || Top||

#28  Post #24 in the "Iranian leader pardons detained Britons" thread:

From The Corner (and this guy reports daily on Iran) his thoughts are scary.

Hostages Freed: What Was the Quid Pro Quo? [Mario Loyola]

Iranian president Ahmadinejad did just announce that the Brits will be released today. As some of us predicted, the quid pro quo included concessions by the United States—we know that Iranian officials will now be allowed to visit the five Iranian "diplomats" detained by the United States in Iraq for supporting the insurgency.

What we haven't seen yet—but it probably won't be long—are the details of the promises Iran extracted concerning its territorial integrity. Iran knows that as it races towards nuclear breakout, it is getting very close to a military confrontation with the United States. Getting the British to agree to back down from the nuclear standoff—and getting them to promise not to allow the U.S. to use the airbase at Diego Garcia—would be an enormous victory for the Mullahs. And it shouldn't be long before they start bragging about it.

Posted by Sherry

Well, that didn't take long, did it? Let's see if this proves out. My cynicism meter has been pegging since I first saw the prisoner release announcement.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 19:36 Comments || Top||

#29  But no actual facts.

I don't know if you've noticed, crosspatch, but of late far too many back-channel deals have been made without the least bit of light being shed upon them. The final upshot is that there is very little reason to believe that more of the same has not happened this time around.

Like the Palestinians, Iran rarely misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity for showing the least semblance of sanity or rationality. Britain's last go 'round with Iran certainly lends ZERO credibility to any substantial threats having been made against the mullahs. My money remains on appeasement especially, by "Soft Power" Britain.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 19:44 Comments || Top||

#30  ONLY the Iranians say they are getting access to the 5 future deadguys captured in Iran. Their word is less than worthless
Posted by: Frank G || 04/04/2007 19:49 Comments || Top||

#31  "far too many back-channel deals have been made without the least bit of light being shed upon them. "

Specifics, please Exactly which "back channel deals" are you talking about and how do you know about them?
Posted by: crosspatch || 04/04/2007 19:56 Comments || Top||

#32  Unverified Italian and Philippine ransoms are just the beginning. More than anything, it is the conspicuous lack of punishment for previous trangressions that make such deals more probable than not. If we were actively punishing Iran for its aggression there would be no need of any quid pro quo. Iran is not being punished, conspicuously or not, therefore deals are indicated.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 20:02 Comments || Top||

#33  "unverified" is the operative word. I would be interested in your sources. But to be honest, some countries pay ransoms all the time. The Italians with Iraqi terrorists and Germans with Taliban are a couple of examples.

As for punishment ... go down to your bank and try to make a wire transfer to a bank in Iran.
Posted by: crosspatch || 04/04/2007 20:09 Comments || Top||

#34  No April 6th then?
Posted by: Victor Emmanuel Grusong8179 || 04/04/2007 20:14 Comments || Top||

#35  Come on, crosspatch. We both know that you cannot prove a negative. Besides, you also know darn well that such monetary transfers aren't made through banks, they're made using diplomatic pouches. I maintain that the conspicuous absence of punishment for Iranian misdeeds lends greater probability to some sort of appeasement having happened. It is a more than reasonable and well-justified assumption to make.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 20:17 Comments || Top||

#36  Moud is PC indirectly warning the Brits catastrophic, 9-11 style-or-greater WMD Terror will occur in Britain iff Britain doesn't separate from America. IMO Dubya will NOT "blink" + pull the USA out of the ME NOR "REDEPLOY". IMO DUBYA WILL STAY IN THE ME EVEN IFF HIS LIFE IS ON THE LINE vv AMER HIROSHIMA, EVEN IFF THE USG-NPE + WASHINGTON DC, etal. GLOW IN THE DARK. The day is looming where not even nuke weapons NOR an anti-US, isolationist, pro-Globalism "DEFEAT = VICTORY, RETREAT = PROGRESS,"AMERICA = RUSSIA/CHINA/
ASIA",.......etc. post-Dubya POTUS will help Moud + Radical Islam's agendas. A DEMOCRAT POTUS AFTER 2008 MAY NOT BE ENUFF TO SAVE RADICAL ISLAM FROM DEFEAT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/04/2007 21:20 Comments || Top||

Question #8: If it's an Easter gift when they give them back, what gift was it when they took them?

Answer: Passover

Posted by: Master of Obvious || 04/04/2007 22:19 Comments || Top||


Hear, hear!
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/04/2007 22:37 Comments || Top||

#39  wow...TW actually reads that stuff!
Posted by: Frank G || 04/04/2007 22:43 Comments || Top||

#40  I really don't think either party really wants to be in charge over the next presidential term. We are due for this business cycle to end and the boomers are going to start retiring. But 08 is going to be a much better cycle than 2012 is. Thats when the boomers are retiring in DROVES.
Posted by: crosspatch || 04/04/2007 23:19 Comments || Top||

#41  Good catch tw. I was inclined to cite the same money quote in Joe's post. There's usually a few nuggets to dig out of his grammatical hash. If he's right, there may even be hope for post-2008 America after all.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 23:22 Comments || Top||

Iranian leader pardons detained Britons
TEHRAN, Iran — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says he has pardoned the 15 British sailors and marines detained in the Gulf last month.
I'll believe it when their plane lands on safe territory
Ahmadinejad also gave medals of honor to the Iranian coast guards who intercepted the 15 British sailors and marines in the Gulf, saying Iran will never accept tresspassing of its territorial waters. "On behalf of the great Iranian people, I want to thank the Iranian Coast Guard who courageously defended and captured those who violated their territorial waters, the president told a press conference. He then interrupted his speech and pinned medals on the chests of three Coast Guard officers involved in capturing the British sailors and marines in the northern Gulf on March 23.

"We are sorry that British troops remain in Iraq and their sailors are being arrested in Iran," Ahmadinejad said. He criticized Britain for deploying Leading Seaman Faye Turney, one of the 15 detainees, in the Gulf, pointing out that she is a woman with a child.

Also Wednesday, Iran's state media reported that an Iranian envoy will be allowed to meet five Iranians detained by U.S. forces in northern Iraq since January. A U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad said, however, that American authorities were still considering the request. The spokesman, Maj. Gen. William C. Caldwell, said an international Red Cross team, including one Iranian, had visited the prisoners but he did not say when.
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#1  I've always believed, it's better to be bad (Iran caputuring soldiers)) than look like your doing something good (releaseing the problem you caused in the first place). It's better pub than always looking good. Then it's expected. This way, the left can always say, "see, they are trying"
Posted by: plainslow || 04/04/2007 10:07 Comments || Top||

#2  A while ago, LH said that this hostage situation would have propoganda purposes for Iran, and I didn't get it. Now I can see:
They effectively humiliated the UK
They emboldened the appeasement impulse among liberal governments worldwide
They impressed the Muslim world by holding out against a superpower
They weaken the West by spotlighting the Western split about females in the military
They make it very difficult to do much militarily now against a nuclear Iran by appearing to be reasonable and gracious
And the list probably goes on and on.

The only thing to help the West now is to become indifferent to world opinion and do what we want anyway. Build those Anglo Saxon alliances and move ahead against a nuclear Iran as planned.
Posted by: Jules || 04/04/2007 10:15 Comments || Top||

#3  "...a gift to the British people"
OK, let me get this straight, you use piracy in Iraqi waters, have the equivalent of a fraternity hazing hell week on uniformed soldiers, and them you "regift" them and (hopefully) hand them back after 13 days... and you call it a gift.
I have to remember that for next Christmas.
Posted by: Capsu 78 || 04/04/2007 10:25 Comments || Top||

#4  I guess we know who won the power struggle in Iran over this.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 04/04/2007 10:41 Comments || Top||

#5  Probably coordinated with Syria's "diplomatic triumph". Thugs are the reasonable guys, not like those war-mongers in the British and US administrations. Would it be surprising if Syria claims that Pelosi's visit was the catalyst for the release?
Posted by: mrp || 04/04/2007 10:44 Comments || Top||

#6  I don't believe there was any "power struggle" in Iran over this issue. Even the former president, black-hatted Khatami, was breathing fire a few days ago. If there was significant difference in opinion, people would be dying and the jail cells would be packed. It's simply toffee and carrots confected for a British political class desperate for this matter to just disappear down the memory hole.
Posted by: mrp || 04/04/2007 10:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Medals of Honor for a situation in which no shots were even fired?

What qualifies as honor in the ME never ceases to amaze me.
Posted by: Mike N. || 04/04/2007 12:20 Comments || Top||

#8  Ladies and gentlemen: please look this way and see the results of generations of overt close-cousin marriage... and of covert co-mommy, half-sister and daughter rape. The reason you are satisfied, Justice Idiot, is because you are not intelligent enough to understand anything. Go sit in the corner and wipe the dribble off your chin while the grown-ups talk.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/04/2007 12:34 Comments || Top||

#9  I have to remember that for next Christmas.

Now you know why I always say that Iran needs to be at the top of America's Christmas list.

As I have always maintained, Western people need to be protected by us Muslims. This is a law of nature.

Before I take my own advice and DNFTT, I'd just like to break with routine and tell J:IMR to FOAD.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 12:41 Comments || Top||

#10  Jules> "And the list probably goes on and on."

Indeed. But for the full understanding of the propaganda situation you also need think of the various ways that Iran *could* have acted in regards to the situation -- e.g. if they had forced the prisoners to pose in naked pyramids, fierce dogs threaten them, waterboarded a few, tortured another few to death, had the men naked with panties on their head, the women naked with male underwear on hers, photograph the lot in such a condition. Then hold them for years and years, during which time they'll be often subject to sleep-deprivation, waterboarding, and other means of torture.

Such a treatment would have effectively managed to shut up every Iran-appeasing voice in the West -- the same way that Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo and the like has effectively managed to shut up so many moderate voices in the Muslim world and other possible supporters of you elsewhere.

Trailing wife> You don't *really* think that's a genuine muslim, do you? That's merely a caricature of one. And if anything it displays the dishonesty of whoever made him.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 04/04/2007 12:45 Comments || Top||

#11  Big difference here Aris. We don't just go out and take people who are pretty much minding there own business and not in Iranian waters, unless you'v drunk the kool-aid of Iranina propaganda. Tell me these British Saiolors and Marines are involved in and master-minding terrorist attacks ? Your "Moral Relevance" is irrelevant here. Spend a couple of months on patrol in Iraq and then maybe you can have a valid opinion.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 04/04/2007 12:57 Comments || Top||

#12  Aris is just phishing and trolling to boost his self esteem.
Posted by: anymouse || 04/04/2007 13:16 Comments || Top||

#13  Mr Katsaris has earnt a PhD, done his service stint in the Greek Army, and got a real job last May. He knows how to behave in the adult world, but chooses not to here. He'd rather play the boorish Greek -- just because America chose to conquer Iraq before Syria instead of his preference of the other way round.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/04/2007 13:54 Comments || Top||

#14  Correction: I'm informed he only got his Master's degree. I do hate to be inaccurate.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/04/2007 14:03 Comments || Top||

#15  Medals of Honor for a situation in which no shots were even fired?

What qualifies as honor in the ME never ceases to amaze me.

Medals and permanent desk jobs so they can't do the same f*ck up again.
Posted by: Harcourt Ebbomoter1484 || 04/04/2007 14:11 Comments || Top||

#16  I'd like to express the hope that the Brits really wanted those sailors and marines out of there to clear the decks for a Good Friday attack but I'm afraid that's hoping for too much. Cooler heads appear to have prevailed...sigh.
I'm happy for the sailors and marines of course but I wonder what Hillary will do when Handjob gets the bomb?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 04/04/2007 14:52 Comments || Top||

#17  If you rob a bank and then give the money back, you are still guilty of bank robbery.
Posted by: Keystone || 04/04/2007 15:09 Comments || Top||

#18  As soon as the brits, get home, they must renounce their admissions and tell the world they were forced to lie.
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 || 04/04/2007 15:14 Comments || Top||

#19  Iran also stoked some internal nationalism, reducing any heat they were having to deal with.

Would the Brits handle the same situation the same way if it happened again tomorrow? And I'm not interested in the "they wouldn't have been checking for smuggling/they would have had the Cornwall closer" scenario. I'm interested if they would shoot if the exact same scenario was replayed again after the hostages are returned. Maybe they were too far away, but I doubt it because it seems to me to be good military tactics to have been within striking distance before launching the pontoons, and they are not stupid.

I'm of the opinion this was agreed upon at least in a general sense at the highest levels. The operational details may have been a surprise to the highest levels, but in the end they were of no consequence either way.
Posted by: gorb || 04/04/2007 15:16 Comments || Top||

#20  "As soon as the brits, get home, they must renounce their admissions and tell the world they were forced to lie."

Yeah, like that'll happen....even if it did, probably wouldn't be widely 'reported'.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 04/04/2007 15:26 Comments || Top||

#21  Iran also stoked some internal nationalism, reducing any heat they were having to deal with.

Agree, Gorb. And as an extra bonus, whatever dissident movements exist in Iran were dealt a hard blow when it became apparent that, if the British military personnel were unwilling to defend themselves against an Iranian attack, the Iranian anti-government factions shouldn't expect the UN, the UNSC, the EU, or Western powers to come to their aid. I think that was part of Ahmadinejad's assault against the UNSC, which he made during today's press conference.
Posted by: mrp || 04/04/2007 15:31 Comments || Top||

#22  The so call "Walking softly and carrying a Big stick" may apply here after all. The Iranians have noticed and probable received Russian intel that the Nimitz Strike Group is 'on the way'! And no, I do not believe the single release of the Iranian diplomat in Iraq was the 'trigger' to get the 15 released; nor Pelosi's fact finding mission. My advice, get the 4th Carrier Group prep'd and smile all the while, we may just resolve the crisis (nuclear)without a single shot, or atleast a 'quick' one!!
Posted by: smn || 04/04/2007 15:40 Comments || Top||

#23  From The Corner (and this guy reports daily on Iran) his thoughts are scary.

Hostages Freed: What Was the Quid Pro Quo? [Mario Loyola]

Iranian president Ahmadinejad did just announce that the Brits will be released today. As some of us predicted, the quid pro quo included concessions by the United States—we know that Iranian officials will now be allowed to visit the five Iranian "diplomats" detained by the United States in Iraq for supporting the insurgency.

What we haven't seen yet—but it probably won't be long—are the details of the promises Iran extracted concerning its territorial integrity. Iran knows that as it races towards nuclear breakout, it is getting very close to a military confrontation with the United States. Getting the British to agree to back down from the nuclear standoff—and getting them to promise not to allow the U.S. to use the airbase at Diego Garcia—would be an enormous victory for the Mullahs. And it shouldn't be long before they start bragging about it.
Posted by: Sherry || 04/04/2007 16:04 Comments || Top||

#24  If that happens, I figure we may as well toss Britain onto the same heap as France. But let's wait and see...
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/04/2007 16:14 Comments || Top||

#25  What was in the note sent by the British to the Iranians? Since the British will not release a copy of it, I can only assume there are strategic concessions involved.

Unfortunately, Iran has apparently scored a clean victory.
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723 || 04/04/2007 16:44 Comments || Top||

#26  Britain simply sent Khamenei this photo:

Posted by: doc || 04/04/2007 17:04 Comments || Top||

#27  We've got to find the flaw in this, let's try the Diego Garcia angle, maybe something will come up.

/It's good news, so it's gotta be bad.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/04/2007 17:24 Comments || Top||

#28  Aris...Zenster was asking the other day where all the dickheads on this site went to. Nobody could respond because you had not been seen or read in such a long while. I see you're back. Lurking like a muslim child molester.
Posted by: Mark Z || 04/04/2007 17:50 Comments || Top||

#29  capitulating to the Brits will not delay one second, the rush to the bomb by the Iranians; as we speak, thousands of techs in the mullah's clandestine nuclear research centers and plants are tolling, sweat in brow to achieve their goal during the west's 'diversion' with menial semantics of who's water is who's.
Posted by: smn || 04/04/2007 18:02 Comments || Top||

#30  If you rob a bank and then give the money back, you are still guilty of bank robbery.

Bingo, Keystone. Very well put. End of story. Any concessions made over this incident are nothing more than a continuing pattern of appeasement by the West. If we had an effective policy of punishing these sorts of transgressions, they wouldn't be happening in the first place. The fact that they are happening proves that we don't.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 19:29 Comments || Top||

#31  I've seen the kidnapping characterized as an act of piracy, in the tradition of the Barbary pirates at the dawn of the Republic.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/04/2007 19:48 Comments || Top||

Iran Nuclear Bomb Could Be Possible by 2009
Iran has more than tripled its ability to produce enriched uranium in the last three months, adding some 1,000 centrifuges which are used to separate radioactive particles from the raw material.

The development means Iran could have enough material for a nuclear bomb by 2009, sources familiar with the dramatic upgrade tell ABC News.

The sources say the unexpected expansion is taking place at Iran's nuclear enrichment plant outside the city of Natanz, in a hardened facility 70 feet underground.

A spokesperson for the United Nation's International Atomic Energy Agency, the IAEA, declined to comment citing the "extreme sensitivity" of the situation with Iran.

Iran has already declared its above-ground operations at Natanz have some 320 centrifuges.

The addition of 1,000 new centrifuges, which are not yet operational, means Iran is expanding its enrichment program at a pace much faster than U.S. intelligence experts had predicted.

"If they continue at this pace, and they get the centrifuges to work and actually enrich uranium on a distinct basis," said David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security, "then you're looking at them having, potentially having enough highly enriched uranium for a nuclear weapon in 2009."

Previous predictions by U.S. intelligence had cited 2015 as the earliest date Iran could develop a weapon.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has publicly predicted his country would have 3,000 centrifuges installed by this May, but few in the West gave his claim much credence, until now.

"I think we have all been caught off guard. Ahmadinejad said they would have these 3,000 installed by the end of May, and it appears they may actually do it," Albright said.

The new centrifuges are in open defiance of the U.N. Security Council which last week imposed a new set of sanctions on Iran for refusing to halt enrichment.

Iran maintains its enrichment facilities are only meant to produce fuel for nuclear power reactors.

But the uranium they are enriching could not be used in the Russian nuclear power reactor they are currently building.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack declined to comment on the details of Iran's new centrifuges but told ABC News, "This kind of expansion of Iran's centrifuge capability is why we went to the U.N. Security Council and pushed for a stronger resolution and stronger sanctions."
Posted by: ed || 04/04/2007 08:35 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6540 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The sources say the unexpected expansion

Unexpected by whom?

The addition of 1,000 new centrifuges, which are not yet operational, means Iran is expanding its enrichment program at a pace much faster than U.S. intelligence experts had predicted.

Those "experts" were only the ones ABC wanted to hear from for the last year.

After reading this story, anybody who reads the 'burg is going to get a mental image of the surprise meter.

Mike N.
Posted by: Jolumble Dark Lord of the Munchkins5849 || 04/04/2007 9:13 Comments || Top||

#2  And I think I have burned out my Contempt Meter for ABC and their ilk. When the revolution comes I hope they hang the experts first.
Posted by: Excalibur || 04/04/2007 9:20 Comments || Top||

#3  I think we have all been caught off guard.

Only because you play ostrich and bury your head in the sand.

Or are completely fucking stupid.

Both of those get a paddlin'
Posted by: DarthVader || 04/04/2007 9:22 Comments || Top||

#4  Watch out gang! Vader's got out the barbed wire paddle again.

Iran Nuclear Bomb Could Be Impossible by 2007 if West Had Any Brains

There, fixed that.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 10:52 Comments || Top||

#5  Zen, were you just to polite to say:
Iran Nuclear Bomb Could Be Impossible by 2007 if West Had Any Measurable Testosterone.
Posted by: RWV || 04/04/2007 13:01 Comments || Top||

#6  I'll just have to do my best to get over it, RWV.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/04/2007 13:10 Comments || Top||

#7  "I think we have all been caught off guard. Ahmadinejad said they would have these 3,000 installed by the end of May, and it appears they may actually do it," NOTbright said.
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 || 04/04/2007 15:28 Comments || Top||

SAME?]. *There are still Mil Forum'ers + Pundits around the Net whom continue to argue, prove, and insist that Iran already conducted nuclear testing back in the late 1990's, and has already procured either or both suitcase nukes from the Russ-Asian black market, andor tactical nuke warheads/munitions for CM's. This is exclusive of any Cold War-style, anti-US/NATO Commie-controlled rush to arm Iran, etal. in defense agz any decadent imperialist US-NATO Western capitalist invasion or attack. D ***ng it, CANADIAN AMBASSADOR TAYLOR > RADICAL IRAN IS AN EMERGING DEMOCRACY, don't ya know.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/04/2007 21:51 Comments || Top||

#9  But the uranium they are enriching could not be used in the Russian nuclear power reactor they are currently building.

And why would that be?
Posted by: KBK || 04/04/2007 23:36 Comments || Top||

#10  because it will be rubble long before then?

just guessing..
Posted by: Frank G || 04/04/2007 23:46 Comments || Top||

#11  and no, I think they were thinking of a different answer. I like mine better :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 04/04/2007 23:46 Comments || Top||

Delegation ready to fly out for Iran talks
Britain is ready to fly a delegation to Iran at short notice as part of an attempt to secure the release of the captive British naval crew, but yesterday evening it was still waiting for a green light from Tehran for talks to begin. The delegation, probably consisting of naval officers, legal experts and diplomats, would not formally negotiate the release of the 15 sailors and marines seized by Iran, British officials insisted, but would try to produce a face-saving way out of the crisis for both sides by discussing how to avoid another incident in the northern Gulf.

"The next 48 hours will be fairly critical," Tony Blair said yesterday as Downing Street braced itself for a news conference today by the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has hitherto had little to say about the crisis. "If they want to resolve this in a diplomatic way, the door is open," the prime minister said. But if the negotiations stalled, Britain would "take an increasingly tougher position".

Speaking later, the foreign secretary, Margaret Beckett, made clear that Britain was not considering the use of force. The prime minister "is not talking, or intending to imply, anything about military action," she said. "We are not seeking confrontation. We are seeking to pursue this through diplomatic channels." Mrs Beckett said that, 12 days into the hostage crisis, British diplomats had still not been given access to the captive naval crew, and the Foreign Office had still had no "formal response" to a note sent to Tehran on Friday, proposing the dispatch of the expert delegation for confidence-building talks.

There have been almost daily contacts between the Iranian ambassador in London, Rasoul Movahedian, and David Triesman, a Foreign Office minister; they were due to hold their eighth meeting of the crisis last night. The British ambassador in Tehran, Geoffrey Adams, has also been meeting officials in the Iranian foreign ministry. But those contacts have largely produced platitudes, British sources say. They believe that Iranian officials may be unwilling to commit themselves until President Ahmadinejad has spoken.
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6474 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I hope these British diplomats know that the Iranians aren't going to wash their asses before the kissing starts.
Posted by: Mike N. || 04/04/2007 0:43 Comments || Top||

Good morning...
AL says Israeli invitation 'not serious'Tribesmen raise 900-man army to fight foreign militantsDelegation ready to fly out for Iran talksGuilty Plea In New York Terror CaseBush Renews Veto Threat on Iraq BillsPirates seize Indian ship, crewAfghan police swoop on religious 'suicide school'UK diplomat gets death threat in Zimbabwe paper
Posted by: Fred || 04/04/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6476 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Very Shiney........like a holiday
Posted by: ARMYGUY || 04/04/2007 1:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Styles come and go, but beauty is always evident. What type of dip-wad could take a face like this and hang a bag over it?
Posted by: Robjack || 04/04/2007 2:20 Comments || Top||

#3  A Taliban dip-wad.
Posted by: gorb || 04/04/2007 3:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Sounds like the Market Diner.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/04/2007 6:57 Comments || Top||

#5  Whoops, for 3DC.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/04/2007 6:58 Comments || Top||

#6  She says to me: "I have been waiting for your, Neo."
Posted by: Excalibur || 04/04/2007 9:20 Comments || Top||

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