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2007-03-24 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Seized British Royal Marines and Sailors Transferred To Tehran
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Posted by mrp 2007-03-24 09:43|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [10803 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Predictable.

British sailors admit entering Iran waters: Iran military

Mar 24 09:29 AM US/Eastern

Fifteen British sailors and marines detained off Iraq by the Iranian navy have admitted illegally entering Iranian waters, senior Iranian commander General Alireza Afshar said Saturday.
"They are currently being questioned and have admitted to violating the territorial waters of the Islamic repubic," Afshar, the official spokesman of the army chief of staff, told the semi-official Fars news agency.

He told the Arabic language service of state television: "We have solid evidence that they were detained in our territorial waters. They themselves have confessed and admitted their mistake."
(link doesn't seem to work for me, so I split it to preserve format - glue it back together to go there.)
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-03-24 12:02||   2007-03-24 12:02|| Front Page Top

#2 Iran: Nuke 'em dead.
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2007-03-24 12:03||   2007-03-24 12:03|| Front Page Top

#3 Oh, God. I hope this isn't 1979 all over again; but I fear it will be.
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2007-03-24 12:12||   2007-03-24 12:12|| Front Page Top

#4 Glenmore's LINKY
Posted by RD 2007-03-24 12:12||   2007-03-24 12:12|| Front Page Top

#5 Brace yourselves for the most painful bit. The PC hand wringing show about to commence by both Brit and US State Dept. types as they conduct business as per usual.

In particular, listen for the great Whooshing Sounds coming from Washington and London, SUCKING spit, prisoners and tersely written Demarches into one Wad.

/I suppose direct action is just too much to hope for.
Posted by RD 2007-03-24 12:27||   2007-03-24 12:27|| Front Page Top

#6 The whole world is watching, Tony.
Especially Moslem leaders.
Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2007-03-24 12:42||   2007-03-24 12:42|| Front Page Top

#7 Have heard anything out of Plains Georgia yet?
Posted by Besoeker 2007-03-24 13:44||   2007-03-24 13:44|| Front Page Top

#8 why, is there an anti-semitic angle to this story? can he blame Israel?
Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2007-03-24 13:55||   2007-03-24 13:55|| Front Page Top

#9 Whahahahahahahahaa ^5
Posted by Besoeker 2007-03-24 13:57||   2007-03-24 13:57|| Front Page Top

#10 Scalpel-sharp, Kalle.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-03-24 14:34||   2007-03-24 14:34|| Front Page Top

#11 Oh, God. I hope this isn't 1979 all over again; but I fear it will be.

You mean Brown's been in touch with Ahmedinajihad?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-03-24 14:37||   2007-03-24 14:37|| Front Page Top

Note to Democrats: this is a military situation where a drop-dead date helps.
Posted by Master of Obvious 2007-03-24 14:51||   2007-03-24 14:51|| Front Page Top

#13 As Ayn Rand so succinctly pointed out, tryannies have no soveriegn rights. Why we give the slightest bit of respect or creedence to any trumpetings and blather spewing forth from Tehran defies all logic. They deserve none at all.

Don't even demand the sailors' return. Consider them to be POWs after a declaration of war and begin destroying vital Iranian assets like ships in harbor, gasoline refineries and Kharg Island's connecting infrastructure.

I repeat, we must take Ahmadinejad and Iran at their word. If they so dearly want war, then give them war. Like any Islamic ego, Iran is so incredibly fragile that even incremental attacks will produce dramatic results. We do not need to engage in a full-out military campaign. Just begin inflicting highly selective but exceptionally painful wounds to their brittle military-industrial infrastructure, then sit back and let economic gangrene set in.

It is long past tea for Iran's comeuppance. No further excuse or provocation is needed. We have all of the necessary military apparatus in place. USE IT, damnit! We're paying additional billions to park all this hardware on their doorstep, use the stinking stuff for a change!
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-03-24 15:11||   2007-03-24 15:11|| Front Page Top

#14 as i predcited, Iran claimed it was in their waters. This seems to be following the script.
Posted by liberalhawk 2007-03-24 15:52||   2007-03-24 15:52|| Front Page Top

#15 Zen we very infrequently agree - this time you're spot on, IMHO
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-03-24 15:54||   2007-03-24 15:54|| Front Page Top

#16 this is Pueblo Redux. Don't let it end the same way. Capturing them is an act of war. Parading them in front of cameras violates the "sacred" GC, IIRC. Iran has to pay hard for this
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-03-24 15:56||   2007-03-24 15:56|| Front Page Top

#17 Frank, I still maintain that we have a lot more in common than either of us might suspect. It's certainly encouraging to find we're in such agreement on this.

Why the Hell anyone continues to cede the least respect for Iran's tyrannical leaders goes beyond all comprehension. It is precisely this sort of unwarranted and unmerited recognition or validation that buys us much of this trouble in the first place. Tin pot dictators like Mugabe, Asad, Kim and their ilk deserve nothing more than the back of our global hand. Instead, we coddle, cajole and appease the precise bastids that destabilize and wreak havoc upon this planet's security.

The only explanation is that world leaders must feel as though they run a closed shop. They intensely dislike the notion of taking down other supposed "leaders" because it weakens their own status, elected or otherwise. It's time to gather up this world's legitimate leadership (i.e., ones that are constitutionally elected or govern benignly), and have them declare open season on all of these two bit thugs. Revoke their "sovereign rights" and begin enforcing severe trade sanctions to make their populations rise up. Arm the people's militias that agree to install peaceful constitutional democracy in place of these tyrannies and deal harshly with those who subsequently reneg on any agreements.

This crap has got to end. We are spiraling down a toilet bowl of niceity and diplomatic cordiality while our very worst foes giggle at the West's collective inability to slap down what are, in reality, truly minor threats. Threats magnified only by our unwillingness to address them in a timely fashion with sufficient political will.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-03-24 17:12||   2007-03-24 17:12|| Front Page Top

#18 This is not 1979. This is a September 12 world and not everybody will sit still for this even if our elected representatives will do nothing.

While I would never condone direct action - and indeed I assume it would be illegal to do so - the fact is Iranians too can be taken hostage and, if the issue is pressed, butchered for the internet. I am amazed nothing of the sort has happened yet. But I suspect the grace period for our elected leaders to pull the thumb out is coming to an end.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-03-24 17:15||   2007-03-24 17:15|| Front Page Top

#19 Zenster, you are EXACTLY right. I cannot believe how the western governments coddle these dictators.
Posted by jds 2007-03-24 17:28||   2007-03-24 17:28|| Front Page Top

#20 Word, Excalibur. Every last letter and punctuation mark of yours is Spot-Fucking-On! Time for these thugs is running way short.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-03-24 17:40||   2007-03-24 17:40|| Front Page Top

#21 I think Excalibur's idea would make a great, patriotic action movie --after the fact. You know, the kind that used to be made, telling the story of actual, heroic operations against the Nazis during WW II.
Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2007-03-24 17:48||   2007-03-24 17:48|| Front Page Top

#22 While I would never condone direct action

sarc correct?
Posted by RD 2007-03-24 20:48||   2007-03-24 20:48|| Front Page Top

#23 Whatever "sarc" tags not required. Eh, Excalibur? (No reply needed.)
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-03-24 20:58||   2007-03-24 20:58|| Front Page Top

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