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2019-03-17 Government
US Air Force says Boeing has 'severe situation' after FOD (Foreign Objects and Debris) found on refueling planes
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Posted by Besoeker 2019-03-17 00:26|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ]  Top

#1 As mentioned the other day by USN, Ret.
This would be horribly sloppy on an automobile assembly line. Seems inexcusable for airplanes.

It may not be a "specific safety concern", but it shows a lack of attention to detail, which sounds like a safety concern to me.
Posted by SteveS 2019-03-17 00:49||   2019-03-17 00:49|| Front Page Top

#2 It is deliberate contempt for the company by the workers. They are doubtlessly being abused. Union workers in the 70s used to do the same in Detroit, leave tools and trash in door cavities.
Posted by Herb McCoy  2019-03-17 02:03||   2019-03-17 02:03|| Front Page Top

#3  it isn’t necessarily the workers being abused — unions have been known to get greedy, too. Or so it sounded to me, listening to stories about the steelworkers at Bethleham Steel in the 1970s, before the company was driven out of business. The unions won all their demands for wages and benefits for decades, until they priced their product out of the changing marketplace.
Posted by trailing wife 2019-03-17 02:23||   2019-03-17 02:23|| Front Page Top

#4 The plane was built in Everett, WA, also known for the Everett Massacre in 1916. The folks there were pretty PO'd recently when Boeing built a new plant in South Carolina. The South Carolinians wisely rejected a machinists' union organizing attempt. Pretty nice plant you got there in Everett. Too bad if anything happened to it.

Boeing figured it out and moved HQ to Chicago in 2001. Some how, just not comfy in Seattle. Wanted to be closer to DC and NY. Sounds like another Seattle company. Seattle is lucky Gary Kildall's wife didn't know want an NDA is. The rest of the world has had to suffer with DOS and Windows for far too long.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2019-03-17 07:43||   2019-03-17 07:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Management has plenty of time for meetings. Too much time in the office behind a desk. No 'walk abouts'.

Now their commercial aircraft are dropping out of the skies.

Sounds like the classical rot of empire building, paper pushing bureaucracy, who forgot why they exist. See - GM
Posted by Procopius2k 2019-03-17 08:19||   2019-03-17 08:19|| Front Page Top

#6 Slightly off topic. Okay, galactically off topic. I read Mrs. Davis's cogent post and my brain fixed on why a guitar playing cat loving cross dresser was posting at the Burg. After another sip or two of coffee, my brain slipped back into this reality and I remembered the guitar player is Mrs. Smith. Coffee fixes a lot of things.
https://www.worldofsmith.com/
Carry on.
Posted by Whiskey Mike 2019-03-17 09:31||   2019-03-17 09:31|| Front Page Top

#7 The second largest shareholder of News Corp, parent of Fox News, is Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal. Notorious for a $10 million check and an explanation of why Americans deserved the 9/11 attacks.
Posted by Ulomosh Whamp4579 2019-03-17 11:16||   2019-03-17 11:16|| Front Page Top

#8 Sorry wrong thread.
Posted by Ulomosh Whamp4579 2019-03-17 11:16||   2019-03-17 11:16|| Front Page Top

#9 If they are too lazy to police up FOD are they also too lazy to use properly adjusted torque wrenches? Inquiring minds would like to know...?
Posted by magpie 2019-03-17 13:05||   2019-03-17 13:05|| Front Page Top

#10 All great theories.
Occam says: "Onsite maintenance crews are cheaper than assembly plant crews. Faster delivery, cheaper if we clean them after receipt."
Posted by Skidmark 2019-03-17 13:08||   2019-03-17 13:08|| Front Page Top

#11 cheaper if we clean them after receipt

Especially if you dun the manufacturer for leaving a mess to clean up.
Posted by M. Murcek 2019-03-17 13:33||   2019-03-17 13:33|| Front Page Top

#12  A friend owned a 1976 Chrysler convertible and for years he noticed every time he made a hard left turn there was a clunking sound from the front fender well or door. Finally in the early 80s he had the power window repaired on the drivers side when they took the door panel off they found a Coke bottle in a recess of the door with a note inside. the note said “drives ya crazy don’t it”. UAW humor at it’s finest
Posted by NoMoreBS 2019-03-17 13:41||   2019-03-17 13:41|| Front Page Top

#13 Is cleaning the plane another of those jobs that Americans can't/won't do?
Posted by AlanC 2019-03-17 13:48||   2019-03-17 13:48|| Front Page Top

#14 The AF retains a 'local' contractor who hires piecewise workers for the cleanup.
Posted by Skidmark 2019-03-17 14:56||   2019-03-17 14:56|| Front Page Top

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