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2006-03-24 Europe

Theres a Dossier on Turkey on the Popes Table

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Posted by Slans Hupese9132 2006-03-24 09:57|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Rome has been waiting for this one for a millennium. You see the muzzies eliminated all the other of the competing Bishops [Alexandria, Jerusalem, Antioch, etc]. The last competitor was Byzantium at Constantinople. There has always been a historical rivalry of who is in charge. When the muzzie took Constantinople, the authority of the Eastern Church was claimed by Greek and Russian Orthodox leftovers. Now if the Vatican can get Istanbul/Constantinople, theyd have claim to the sole lineage from the early church [disregarding the Protestant view of matters]. Like theyve been working this angle for centuries. The muzzies are going to make it happen for Rome by keeping up the self destructive behavior.

Posted by Theater Crinemp4863 2006-03-24 12:35|| 2006-03-24 12:35|| Front Page Top

#2 The article contains a detailed denunciation of the lack of religious freedom that afflicts the Christian minorities living in Turkey today. And before that is a recollection of the massacre of the Armenians and the expulsion of the Greek Orthodox: the two terrible acts of cleansing of the non-Turkish and non-Muslim element from which contemporary Turkey was born.

This is a fair assessment as far at the Armenians are concerned. They got screwed. However, as is later indicated in the article, this is NOT in fact a fair or accurate representation of what happened to the Greek Orthodox.

After the end of the war between Greece and Turkey, in 1922, the Turkish government, having won the conflict, established within the peace treaties with the agreement of the Western powers that an exchange of populations take place. In this way, most of the Greek Orthodox had to leave Turkey, which they considered their land, and to move to Greek territory, where they did not even speak the language. It has been determined that 1,344,000 Greek Orthodox Christians were deported to Greek territory, and that 464,000 Greek Muslims were transferred to Turkey.

....and the result of this agreement, which was known as the Treaty of Lausanne, was that about 2 million people didnt suffer the usual Balkan fate of genocidal annihilation at the hands of their ethnic cousins. Additionally, some 250,000 Bulgarians were peacefully shifted from Greece and Turkey to Bulgaria. In one of its few acts of utter competency, the League of Nations supervised the entire exchange to the overall satisfaction of the parties involved.

Was it ethnic cleansing? Yes. Was it genocide? No. Did is save untold lives and prevent a second Balkan War? Yes. Is there something to be learned from the Treaty of Lausanne? Yes. Sometimes it is better for everyone if you separate, take a breather, and dont try a brave multicultural experiment.

Posted by Secret Master 2006-03-24 13:04|| 2006-03-24 13:04|| Front Page Top

#3 You obviously haven't heard of the pogroms in the 195x< who ended with Greek presence in Turkey.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2006-03-24 17:17|| 2006-03-24 17:17|| Front Page Top

#4 Well, Ive heard a lot of allegations over this issue and, being that we are talking about the Turks here, Im fairly certain that most of them are true. With that said, there has been an attempt by academia in recent years to spin the Treaty of Lausanne as a tool of genocide, when in fact it largely prevented genocide from occurring. Mark my words: if it hadnt been for that treaty, the Bosnian Genocide would have occurred over a much, much larger area and included far more countries than Yugoslavia.

Posted by Secret Master 2006-03-24 17:33|| 2006-03-24 17:33|| Front Page Top

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