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2007-04-10 Home Front Economy

CA Panel Forbids LNG Pipeline: Malibu Celebs Cheered

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Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-04-10 02:18|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I wonder just what source of energy elite Californians WOULD approve. The don't want offshore drilling, or drilling anywhere they can see. No LNG landings. No nuclear plants. No wind farms. Maybe Mexicans running on treadmills?

Posted by Waldemar Snimble9989 2007-04-10 07:40|| 2007-04-10 07:40|| Front Page Top

#2 Well, I definitely oppose power lines coming in from other states.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2007-04-10 08:25|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2007-04-10 08:25|| Front Page Top

#3 Hollyweed idiots. Nuf said.

Posted by 3dc 2007-04-10 09:01|| 2007-04-10 09:01|| Front Page Top

#4 Hold on, let's not discount the Mexican hamster wheel option so quickly.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-04-10 09:18|| 2007-04-10 09:18|| Front Page Top

#5 Can't wait for pipeline and powerline hating Bugtis to move to Malibu.

Posted by ed 2007-04-10 10:23|| 2007-04-10 10:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Friggin short-sighted idiots. Because of people like this we pay HUGE energy bills with no end in sight. If they had supported Nuclear and other forms (say NATURAL GAS) we would be kliving inthe tall cotton today. How bout we have the idiots chip in to pay the energy bills.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2007-04-10 10:31|| 2007-04-10 10:31|| Front Page Top

#7 Environmentalists, however, say there is no guarantee the project would be more reliable or lower prices because the gas could also be sold to other states.

That about sums it up for me. These pampered NIMBY twits live in their own little self-contained dreamworld of special privilege for special people and adamantly oppose anything that might benefit anyone else. For example, it is a continuing battle to get them to comply with the rules regarding beach access that the rest of California deals with. By law, all of California's citizens have access to all of California's beaches. The folks in Malibu don't like the little people tramping on their beaches and harshing their mellow. On the other hand, they feel it is fitting and proper to have the "little people" come to their aid when their homes slide onto the "pristine" beaches or when the fires come over the hill. Worthless p***ks.

Posted by RWV 2007-04-10 10:40|| 2007-04-10 10:40|| Front Page Top

#8 ...because the gas could also be sold to other states.

Hmmmmmmmm? Maybe Nevada ought to check out that water rights deal? Wonder if Babs would like it if her seemingly neverending lawnspace turn brown or you could only fill the pool halfway?

Posted by tu3031 2007-04-10 11:26|| 2007-04-10 11:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Idjits. This terminal could supply between 10% - 14% of the state's entire LNG requirements. The terminal would be so far offshore as to be invisible. It is assholes like these that are turning California into one of the most business unfriendly states in the Union.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-04-10 13:24|| 2007-04-10 13:24|| Front Page Top

#10 Read the article: about the second to last paragraph it pretty well sums up the mental process of the state: The governor cannot override the decision of the board. Last time I checked, in the other 49 states, the Governor was the State's Chief Executive and was the Man (or Woman) in Charge, and here his authority is being usurped by a board? Any CA-Burgers want to fill me in, but I am willing to bet these clowns are not elected. No wonder that state is so F-ed up.

watch these same idiots whine when gas prices climb due to inadequate supplies.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-04-10 14:53|| 2007-04-10 14:53|| Front Page Top

#11 My only work with State Lands was a successful one, so I don't know the exact avenue of appeals, but this Commission is not the end-all, be-all. There are always appeal processes

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-04-10 16:13|| 2007-04-10 16:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Folks, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. The problem as I see it, having lived here all my life, is that everyone in the whole wide world wants to live here. (Admit it. You want to live here. If you don't then stay where you are because I don't want you here anyway.) Developers are all too eager to build massive housing tracts to meet the demand for housing and they bribe the politicians to let them do it. But all the new housing and people creates an ever increasing demand for water, energy, roads, airports, schools, hospitals, etc. In short, the state's infrastructure is totally inadequate and crumbling. They're talking water shortages this summer because we didn't get enough rain this past winter. So do I have to stop watering my lawn because they built 10,000 new homes in my town? Now, think about it, these bought and paid for politicians want to put a power line through a pristine state park like Anza-Borrego or an international airport in your backyard or a new freeway in your front yard just so the developers can keep building and making huge fortunes. You'd be pissed. I am.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-04-10 16:20|| 2007-04-10 16:20|| Front Page Top

#13 #12 EU - I don't want to live in California. Never did. Never will.

But you're welcome to move here to Virginia when you come to your senses. ;-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2007-04-10 16:27|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2007-04-10 16:27|| Front Page Top

#14 EU's got a point, Barb -- everyone starts moving to Virginia and it's going to look at lot like Manassas.

I lived in Richmond in the 80's. In just a few years they turned Chesterfield from a delightful country of back roads and farms into one large suburb. After that the elected officials looked at each other and said, gee, maybe we need some zoning laws. Smooth, guys, real smooth.

Yeah, we have more people, and yeah, we need places to put them (especially all those new citizens from Mexico ;-). So we need more NG and LNG. We don't have to wreck every last piece of decent land to do it.

There's lots of ways to get the NG off all three coasts, and we should do it. But let's show some common sense.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2007-04-10 17:06|| 2007-04-10 17:06|| Front Page Top

#15 "Admit it. You want to live here"

EU6305, you and all your friends together don't have enough money to get me to live in that fruit-and-nut-loaded abortion of a state. I PITY any productive people who live there, particularly if they're white. They get taxed at gunpoint to provide bread and circuses for those who truly hate them. I have to travel through there for business (just to the airports), and I'm ALWAYS glad to get out. California? ABSOLUTELY EFFING NOT, NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES! When you guys slide off into the sea we'll have a much better shot at getting the US government back from the frothing left. (I hope you're not there when the big slide happens.)

Posted by Mac 2007-04-10 18:15|| 2007-04-10 18:15|| Front Page Top

#16 The nice thing about LNG is that after being turned back into gas, it is just fed into the existing pipeline network. The US has minimal capacity to receive LNG at the moment. The only way for the US to continue using NG at present levels is thru building new LNG facilities. Perhaps the national government will be motivated to do something serious when parts of the country start freezing in the dark, which could happen next winter.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-04-10 19:09|| 2007-04-10 19:09|| Front Page Top

#17 I figured that might set some people off. Actually, if it wasn't for the beach, I'd consider some quiet Midwestern state where the changes that disturb me so much here take place much more gradually. I understand that there is more to "quality of life" than just having a constant 70 degrees. And, yes, we have a LOT of fruits and nuts here. I guess what I was trying to say was, if you don't live here, you may not understand what it's like to have bulldozers going 24/7.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-04-10 19:24|| 2007-04-10 19:24|| Front Page Top

#18 Being transferred to Warner Robins, GA after living in Pacific Beach for the last 10 years, I have been giving a lot of thought to who would want to live in California. If I were younger with children still at home, I think I would prefer to live almost anywhere else than California. The schools here are pathetic. Kids come out with self-esteem and no marketable skills. They have been indoctrinated with a very PC worldview that bears no resemblance to reality. The "elites" in California are so venal and smug that many decisions are taken in a truly twilight zone environment. Government here is corrupt and incompetent at all levels. The infrastructure is beginning to break down and we are being overwhelmed by illegals to the point that it is occasionally difficult to find someone who speaks English. That said, I love San Diego and would stay here forever if duty didn't call me elsewhere.

Posted by RWV 2007-04-10 21:07|| 2007-04-10 21:07|| Front Page Top

#19 sorry to lose you, RWV. Your school complaint refers to SD Unified, and they do have their issues. I've lived in Santee (the redneck/garden spot of east county, LOL) since the 80's - we have Grossmont Unified, which I believe to be better. Born/raised in Chula Vista. Attended UCSD/SDSU. Doubt I'll ever leave :-)

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-04-10 21:25|| 2007-04-10 21:25|| Front Page Top

#20 Hold on, let's not discount the Mexican hamster wheel option so quickly.

Please, folks. Listen to the voice of reason! (Spot on, Mate!)

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-04-10 21:38|| 2007-04-10 21:38|| Front Page Top

#21 I was born in Torrance, south of LA. The last time I was back there was 1960. You couldn't get me to move anywhere south of Sacremento, including holding a gun to my head. I have family in northern California (Grass Valley, Yuba City, Marysville), and don't go to visit. Colorado has everything I need, including a nice beach (Great Sand Dunes National Monument). I don't miss oceans at all...

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