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2007-05-11 Iraq

(ABC) EXCLUSIVE: F-16s Destroy Purported Terror Camp in Iraq

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Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2007-05-11 05:46|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 A number of thoughts came to my mind when I read the headline, but AC pretty well covered them all!

Posted by Bobby 2007-05-11 06:09|| 2007-05-11 06:09|| Front Page Top

#2 Parts and pieces. Just how I like my terrorists.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-05-11 08:18|| 2007-05-11 08:18|| Front Page Top

#3 So... any ideas where these AA technicals are being sourced? Paid for? I expect some Orcish strategist has decided going after helicopter transport and air cover pays dividends.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-05-11 08:58|| 2007-05-11 08:58|| Front Page Top

#4 The guns on these technicals are mostly Russian 12.7 and 14.5 mm machine guns, which are as common as dirt in that part of the world. There are reports of other guns being used, and the one in the video is obviously larger than 14.5mm, but those too would be fairly common in those parts.

The "technical" simply takes a towed multiple mount for these and attaches it to the cargo area of a heavy duty pickup. The vehicles could be modified locally or across the border in Iran with quite simple facilities.

The interesting part is the relative accuracy these have displayed. They are not weapons the average jihadi would be able to use effectively without quite extensive training. My guess is that they sneak over the border into Iran for training on similar Revolutionary Guard rigs. This would allow for unfettered use of specialized ranges and such things as the services of target-towing aircraft and electronic scoring arrays.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2007-05-11 09:33|| 2007-05-11 09:33|| Front Page Top

#5 Purported report of a purported strike against purported terror camp.

Ha. :)

..."obliterated three truck-mounted anti-aircraft weapons and killed 10 to 14 al Qaeda operatives near Fallujah..."

They didn't meet the standard for the usual spin but...

Our MSM is worse than Baghdad Bob. ~~It was a baby milk and aspirin factory. It was a wedding celebration. There was a religious feast. It was a mosque.~~ These slack jar apologists for terrorists aid and abet the terrorists--for what reason God only knows.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-05-11 09:41|| 2007-05-11 09:41|| Front Page Top

#6 al Qaeda members firing anti-aircraft weapons from the trucks as they train to take over a~~n abandoned~~ building.

Interesting (in the 'Chinese meaning' of the word).

Posted by Pappy 2007-05-11 09:47|| 2007-05-11 09:47|| Front Page Top

#7 John QC - for what reason God only knows.

Don't you mean "Allah"? The MSM doesn't believe in God only in their own infallibility. Remember the kids in school who took journalism, worked on the school paper or yearbook. Remember how smarmy they were. Well they now work for NYTs/ABC/WaPo/Newsweek, et.al.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2007-05-11 09:50|| 2007-05-11 09:50|| Front Page Top

#8 Nor can Mehtap! I want to say that your site better throughout the World Wide Web :)
Thank you. Keep it.

Posted by uropian">uropian 2007-05-11 09:57|| 2007-05-11 09:57|| Front Page Top

#9 Yes, uropian, this is a site better than other sites. From this AA takeout, I now assume we are winning this war against insurgency in Iraq. Why ?
Because we will not give back anything now. They can't just repopulate and while we are sitting ducks for underground forces with land bombs, they are up against air surveillance, civilian tips, territorial battles, and potential border interceptions, not to mention intel gained from ~~torture~~ questioning captives.
In fact, the only win for them is the democrat party. This fact will become more apparent in coming weeks. What a stupid way to head into a presidential election.

Posted by wxjames 2007-05-11 10:43|| 2007-05-11 10:43|| Front Page Top

#10 DarthV

Can't help remembering that old commercial......

"Parts is parts."

Hopefully extra crispy.

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2007-05-11 10:44|| 2007-05-11 10:44|| Front Page Top

#11 DoD is reporting ten plus killed.

Despite the phrasing, this is a real nice surprise from ABC. Didn't expect this sort of report from old media.

Posted by Chuck Simmins">Chuck Simmins 2007-05-11 11:18|| http://northshorejournal.org]">[http://northshorejournal.org] 2007-05-11 11:18|| Front Page Top

#12 Somebody will have to start the turnaround in the media. Maybe this is not the beginning of the end, but it might be the end of the beginning. I'm crossin' my fingers.

Posted by Bobby 2007-05-11 11:25|| 2007-05-11 11:25|| Front Page Top

#13 uropian is a bot

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-05-11 11:52|| 2007-05-11 11:52|| Front Page Top

#14 I'm a bit naive but my understanding of a bot is that it's an internet robot that fowards messages from some website. How does this work? What I mean is why would a person use a BOT?

Posted by JohnQC 2007-05-11 12:51|| 2007-05-11 12:51|| Front Page Top

#15 Traffic is traffic Frank.

Posted by Shipman 2007-05-11 13:25|| 2007-05-11 13:25|| Front Page Top

#16 uropian is a bot

Apparently this bot's chinese is better than its english. :-)

Posted by gorb 2007-05-11 16:07|| 2007-05-11 16:07|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm not a bot, but I play one on TV and Rantburg!

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-05-11 16:50|| 2007-05-11 16:50|| Front Page Top

#18 Please, GW...for the sake of the US and the soldiers and marines in harm's way: Declare the border region of Iraq and Iran a free-fire zone from sundown until sun up. No apologies. No regrets. If one soldier or marine lives to go home to his family it will be worth it.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2007-05-11 16:51|| 2007-05-11 16:51|| Front Page Top

#19 There are terror camps and operations centers, AKA: mosques.

Posted by Sneaze 2007-05-11 20:51|| 2007-05-11 20:51|| Front Page Top

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