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2007-05-11 Britain

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Posted by Steve White 2007-05-11 00:39|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 Wow. Is there a Cliff Notes version?

I read enough to know it's worth remembering, 15 months later, and saved a copy for a trip to the 'reading room'.

Posted by Bobby 2007-05-11 07:37|| 2007-05-11 07:37|| Front Page Top

#2 A crucial mistake - both in thinking and in rhetoric - of the neocons is in taking a Wilsonian line in distinguishing policy based on interest and policy based on values. The liberation of half a billion muslim women from a Dark Ages rape-cult is not only an expression of our values; it is in our vital interest. The Jacksonians, and a selfish cringing "left", will never be convinced the freedom of people of faraway countries of whom we know nothing is worth our blood and treasure. Hell, they may even be right. But cleaning out the rat-holes of the world in an age of nuclear terror is not virtuous, it is not even selfish, it is sane.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-05-11 09:09|| 2007-05-11 09:09|| Front Page Top

#3 Blair is as unflinching as W and is sort of a British version of Clinton in that he is smart, politically astute, has a progressive lawyer for wife and actually can speak French. Brown on the other hand is penny pinching, taxing, uninspiring Scot who will pull the Brits back from our reach and become more isolationist and more European. Sarkozy won't even have the chance to work witih Blair putting W in a very lonely position to accomplish anything with Sarkozy and Merkel. Love to have Tony around with the new French, Germans, Canadians and UK. I have the feeling the Euros have been reading Mark Steyn and are scared to death and have voted with that fear.

Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back! 2007-05-11 10:20|| 2007-05-11 10:20|| Front Page Top

#4 If the local recent elections are any indication, Jack, Mr Brown will only be PM until the next Parliamentary election. We can hope, anyway.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-05-11 11:54|| 2007-05-11 11:54|| Front Page Top

#5 Oh, and don't forget the incredibly self-centered Jeffersonians, Excalibur: The Prototype for that group sold Haitian independence down the river to prevent a Black Democracy from upsetting the Southern States applecart.

I think the Jacksonians can be sold on the idea that the liberation of the Muslim woman as being in the national interest IF the case was articulated by the "White Knight Leader". Alas, Reagan now rides with the angels, and Dubya's not the Gipper.

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2007-05-11 12:56|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2007-05-11 12:56|| Front Page Top

#6 I was commenting on Excalibur's comment, and failed to comment on Tony's speech.

He gets a few things right, and a whole lot of things wrong: His reading of Islam, its goals, its intents, and its history, is so PC that it is breathtaking. One has to continually remind people who believe in a variant that "Islam is a religion of peace" is that it grew by ARMED FORCE. The only people who listened to Islam and who embraced it voluntarily, without any coercion, were the Mongols, and they had beaten the crap out of the Arabs militarily. Only by posing as the divinely blessed race were the Arabs able to save face, gain control, and retain control, over the Mongols.

The Mongols. THE MONGOLS. Man, that's like being endorsed by Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Stalin, both Il-Jongs, and the Ku Klux Klan. I mean, what sort of religion is Islam if murderous, rampaging, pillaging Mongols find it so attractive that the whole society embraces it wholeheartedly and propagates it back to their own homeland, dropping their own native religion like a hot potato?

What's more amazing is that people think they will solve problems and get things right even if the "facts" that they think they know are fundamentally WRONG? Stupid as shit.

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2007-05-11 13:23|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2007-05-11 13:23|| Front Page Top

#7 Tony gives a great speech, and he did commit Britain to the WOT. Thank you, Tony. However, Britain has been subsumed by the EU on his watch. The British military is being downsized. Their military equipment is being bought in the EU. The result will be an army like the French. Not operable with US forces and no projection ability. Iraq will be the last cooperative military venture for the forseeable future. In fact the "special relationship" may be over for now.

If one wants a look at how multiculti and political correctness work out, one only has to look at Britain.

Posted by SR-71 2007-05-11 16:00|| 2007-05-11 16:00|| Front Page Top

#8 But cleaning out the rat-holes of the world in an age of nuclear terror is not virtuous, it is not even selfish, it is sane.

Spot FUCKING on, Excalibur!

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-05-11 22:33|| 2007-05-11 22:33|| Front Page Top

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