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2007-05-11 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Delphi2005 2007-05-11 09:06|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 Tough shit, boys.
There goes your airport foot baths...

Posted by tu3031 2007-05-11 10:08|| 2007-05-11 10:08|| Front Page Top

#2 Is the American public coming to the realization that the beast live among us? Or do they really believe the CAIR line of bullshit? What I read about is fairly limited, but even that makes me think we should box up every one of them and send them back to the dunes. Not very American, I'll admit. But far better than losing Boston or NY to a nuclear blast some day. Why do we tolerate people who openly hate America and call for it's destruction?

Posted by bigjim-ky 2007-05-11 10:36|| 2007-05-11 10:36|| Front Page Top

#3 Sounds like a bit of profiling might be in order.

Posted by treo 2007-05-11 10:49|| 2007-05-11 10:49|| Front Page Top

#4 The moment cheers erupted from those jihadi towers the buildings should have been sealed and leveled. I for one would have cheered as their occupants jumped or were crushed to death.

Eye for eye. Tooth for tooth.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-05-11 11:12|| 2007-05-11 11:12|| Front Page Top

#5 How many of the cabbies are illegal immigrants, in addition? Send them back, terror connections or no, as a first step -- no other cause is needed to expel illegals.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-05-11 11:30|| 2007-05-11 11:30|| Front Page Top

#6 Muslims account for the majority of cab drivers in many major U.S. cities including the nation's capital.

The last time I went to DC, I thought I was in a foreign country. The UN must be proud of America. If many of these cab drivers are here illegally, they are taking jobs from other Americans. Shouldn't be difficult to look at these cabbie records and figure out who's here illegally. Figuring out who are wanna be terrorists might be difficult. Hell, if the Government can find me every year to make sure I pay my taxes they ought to be able to find these boneheads.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-05-11 12:06|| 2007-05-11 12:06|| Front Page Top

#7 Last November, Homeland Security agents rounded up dozens of Pakistani immigrants across the East Coast working illegally as cabbies. Pakistan is an al-Qaida hotbed.

I don't remember that one. Good for them.

Before last year's congressional election, a U.S. lawmaker was widely criticized for suggesting Muslim cabbies were a terrorist threat. Republican Sen. Conrad Burns said the U.S. is up against a faceless enemy of terrorists who "drive taxi cabs in the daytime and kill at night." The longtime senator lost his seat to Democrat Jon Tester.

Damn.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-05-11 12:12|| 2007-05-11 12:12|| Front Page Top

#8 I think I'm going to check names before getting into taxis from now on (the few times I actually use one). This seems a basic safety precaution, discriminatory though it is.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-05-11 12:14|| 2007-05-11 12:14|| Front Page Top

#9 There is nothing discriminatory about self preservation, TW. First rule of personal security, always follow your gut instinct.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2007-05-11 12:18|| 2007-05-11 12:18|| Front Page Top

#10 The first test to determine the mindset of the cab driver is to have a bottle of whiskey and an open bag of pork rinds. If he opens the door for ya hes probably OK.

Posted by BrerRabbit 2007-05-11 13:15|| 2007-05-11 13:15|| Front Page Top

#11 THe two informants and undercover guys we got into the cell in New Jersey might have been "Cabbies" Who knows. A little balance should be shown. I have seen too many reports of how American Moslems have stepped up to the plate and are the eyes and ears of what is going in their communities. So much so that the terrorist are having problems. At some point that should be mentioned for balance. Is everything great in the American Moslem comminity. Nope. But I do think the cooperation between the FBI, intelliegence agencies, and the American Muslim community might be one the big success stories we are missing

JH

Posted by James H">James H 2007-05-11 14:15|| 2007-05-11 14:15|| Front Page Top

#12 Good start. Now how about the same consideration for driving trucks full of hazardous material. Or even panel vans for that sake.

Posted by gorb 2007-05-11 14:17|| 2007-05-11 14:17|| Front Page Top

#13 What I read about is fairly limited, but even that makes me think we should box up every one of them and send them back to the dunes.

Works for me.

Not very American, I'll admit.

Horse hockey! We have met the enemy and know them for what they are. Until Islam renounces terrorism, sharia theocracy, dhimmitude and taqiyya, all Muslims are unfit to live outside of their Islamic hellholes. There is nothing un-American about wanting to preserve our great country's constitutional law from a bunch of seditious traitors. Any notion of reformationist ijtihad is an idea so far removed from the vast majority of Muslims around the entire world that the bare few who support it are negligible. I can no longer feel sad for even the most honorable Muslim within our borders. Their numbers are so limited and of such minimal impact upon positive change that they are essentially non-existent with respect to any viable solution. They have chosen to be part of a murderous death cult and have no place in civilized society. Islam has no redeeming features. How much more clear does this need to be made?

But far better than losing Boston or NY to a nuclear blast some day.

Damn straight.

Why do we tolerate people who openly hate America and call for it's destruction?

I can only suppose that such a vicious and ungrateful mindset is simply too alien for most people to comprehend. That needs to change. Regardless of what we do to acellerate the process of this awareness, Islam will do it for us with some sort of heinous atrocity. Why sit and wait around for it?

The moment cheers erupted from those jihadi towers the buildings should have been sealed and leveled. I for one would have cheered as their occupants jumped or were crushed to death.

Wow, it's like you're reading my mind! How do you do that, Excalibur?

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-05-11 15:14|| 2007-05-11 15:14|| Front Page Top

#14 "all Muslims are unfit to live outside of their Islamic hellholes. There is nothing un-American about wanting to preserve our great country's constitutional law from a bunch of seditious traitors."

I wonder if this attitude is why the Press and the media do not regard the brave Iraqis dying with our troops as Allies. They Certainly don't seem to be portrayed as much. I notice IRaqi lobbyist were in Congress yesterday to lobby Congress on this. I cant imagine Winston Churchill having to do the same in WWII.

THe problem is folks there is no POPE in Islam. There will not be a moment when all Islam rejects all those things because there is no structure for it. It is akin to demanding that all Protestants reject X teaching. But we do see progress. We see it in the UAE and other areas. I know a few muslims and they reject this stuff out of hand. Again I reiterate my point. There needs to be some balance here. I talked to my friend that was on leave not to long ago. AN Iraqi(muslim) that he worked with died bravely against the people that practice the most horrible crimes to humanity as we see every day on TV.

All right flame away

Posted by James H">James H 2007-05-11 16:29|| 2007-05-11 16:29|| Front Page Top

#15 As a matter of fact, James H., Churchill did nothing but lobby the Americans for help for years.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-05-11 16:35|| 2007-05-11 16:35|| Front Page Top

#16 Got it too.

Posted by Shipman">Shipman 2007-05-11 17:46|| 2007-05-11 17:46|| Front Page Top

#17 James H, this is only a mild flame.

I am confident that there are many good people who happen to be muslims, in this country, in Iraq and around the world. But so far, they have not been very visible in there out-of-hand dismissals of the despicable acts of their co-religionists. If they become vocal and visible, they are killed or at least threatened into back silence. Only when these moderates come out en masse will they be effective. To date we have not seen even the hint of such a group movement.

The Iraqis are not fighting for the reform of islam, they are fighting for their lives against tribal or sectarian opposition. But many are fighting bravely alongside us and for that I am grateful.

Zenster is spot on. Until several central aspects of islam are discarded, nothing really is going to change. Your nice friends can't or won't make that change happen.

Posted by remoteman 2007-05-11 17:51|| 2007-05-11 17:51|| Front Page Top

#18 If there is justice in the world, the next big terrorist attack in the US will be in one of the "sanctuary cities". Let those holier-than-thou types suffer rather than them foisting it off on the rest of us like they usually do.

Posted by RWV 2007-05-11 18:35|| 2007-05-11 18:35|| Front Page Top

#19 If there is another 9/11 in the U.S., you will see just about everyone clamoring for the destruction of just about anything Muslim.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-05-11 18:50|| 2007-05-11 18:50|| Front Page Top

#20 James H has a point. An overt anti-Islamic policy makes no sense at this stage, when many muslims are fighting with the West, some of them probably as informants within the terror organisations. Eventually Islam will have to either disappear or morph into something quite unrecognisable, but for now just concentrate on the jihadis. The civil war in Algeria proves they can be demoralised and defeated. Their next defeat looks like Afghanistan.

Posted by Apostate 2007-05-11 18:50|| 2007-05-11 18:50|| Front Page Top

#21 THe problem is folks there is no POPE in Islam. There will not be a moment when all Islam rejects all those things because there is no structure for it.

James H, since you recognize this very important fact, it must be equally clear that there remains a constant threat from the vast majority of Muslims in this world. Due to taqiyya there is absolutely no way to know when Sudden Jihad Syndrome is going to strike. I'll freely admit that there are probably lots of honest, decent hardworking Muslims in the USA. As remoteman notes, even here in America where freedom of speech and individual safety is very well protected, moderate Muslims simply have refused to make any sort of massive protest against Islam's atrocities. They have the fucking nerve to cheer when our nation is assailed by their murderous brethern, but despite a near total lack of threat, they remain deafening silent regarding the immense flaws and downright hideous practices their creed perpetuates.

This is not satisfactory and such deafening silence constitutes tacit, if not overt approval for all that Islam stands for. There is not one reason why our nation should put up with this sort of thinly veiled sedition. If American Muslims cannot outrightly denounce sharia law for the brutal and massive violation of human rights that it is, then they should return, or be returned, to the countries that practice it so they can enjoy its splendors. There is no damn way that they deserve America's constitutional protections even while they seek to destroy everything our country stands for. There is a limit and this is certainly one of them.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-05-11 18:58|| 2007-05-11 18:58|| Front Page Top

#22 Eventually Islam will have to either disappear or morph into something quite unrecognisable, but for now just concentrate on the jihadis.

Apostate, were it not for the existence of nuclear weapons, I might very well agree with you. Instead, your recommendation simply requires far more time than what is left on the clock. Pakistan already has nuclear weapons and poses a constant threat to international security with its export of global jihad. Their proliferation of nuclear weapons technology is totaly unforgivable and has only served to further destabilize both the Middle East and the East Asian region as well.

Islam must be contained by force and its populations reconsolidated within existing territorial boundaries so that checks and measures can be applied that will serve to neutralize Islam's constant aggression upon the West. I half jokingly call this a "Qarantine" but there is nothing funny about just how evil Islam is. Their quest for global domination would result in the death of half this world's population and I would sooner have every Muslim on earth perish than see their dream fulfilled.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-05-11 19:08|| 2007-05-11 19:08|| Front Page Top

#23 There has been at least 40 years of terrorism foisted upon the world by Muslims. The bombing of various embassies, the bombing of the Marine barracks, 18 rangers in Mogadishu, taking the U.S. Embassy in Iran, the murder of Kinginhofer, the murder of the Israeli Olympic athletes, the murder of Lt. Col. Buckley, 911, and on and on and on. It is very difficult to get any warm fuzzy feeling about any muslim. I was farily tolerant and took a live and let live attitude but these guys and women have been at war with us for a long time whether we are willing to accept it or not.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-05-11 19:13|| 2007-05-11 19:13|| Front Page Top

#24 They've finally started to notice ? No shit Sherlock. How are all these asses getting in here ? It cannot be on legal papers. Are they coming as visitors and not leaving ? No one to round them up ? How about bounties like the old days ? Wanted Dead or..Naw just dead.

Posted by Woozle Elmeter2970 2007-05-11 20:36|| 2007-05-11 20:36|| Front Page Top

#25 James H, Apostate, I do truly believe that there are many who call themselves Muslim fighting actively against terrorism, and even more like Apostate who have de facto disassociated themselves from the religion and culture, albeit choosing not to precipitate a family crisis (or worse) by announcing the fact. The problem is that we only ever hear about the evildoers and their enablers and cheerleaders. Worse still, the Muslims do not hear of the actions of those fighting jihidism, and there are no cheerleaders for those fighting. So those on the jihadi side believe they are the true Islam, and those fighting believe they are alone in their convictions. Until those fighting the jihadis are trumpeted to the skies -- perhaps not their names, but certainly their actions -- any morphng that takes place will be at a multigeneration rate.

Zenster is right, that so long as nations like Pakistan proliferate nuclear weapons technology, and nations like Iraq and Iran proliferate WMD and train terrorists to make bombs and hijack airplanes, we do not have time to wait for Islam to be domesticated. Then too, as the daughter of an Israeli my concerns are a bit more immediate; I have relatives over there who live daily under the threat of Iran's missiles, which Ahmadenijad promises will soon have nuclear tips. I have friends who are Muslim, and friends who are likely apostates. It tears my heart that I do not feel comfortable with the idea of getting into a cab that might be driven by someone like them. But after 9/11 a spokeswoman from one of the local mosques came to speak at the trailing daughters' elementary school... and the things she said about Jews curled my hair, because behind what she said with such assurance lay, clearly, a depth of hatred I did not wish to publicly plumb. I'd promised the lady who organized it that I'd be good, you see.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-05-11 20:48|| 2007-05-11 20:48|| Front Page Top

#26 Napalm is the best ablution.

Posted by Sneaze 2007-05-11 20:49|| 2007-05-11 20:49|| Front Page Top

#27 after 9/11 a spokeswoman from one of the local mosques came to speak at the trailing daughters' elementary school... and the things she said about Jews curled my hair, because behind what she said with such assurance lay, clearly, a depth of hatred I did not wish to publicly plumb.

I wonder what would happen if someone from the synagogue came to your daughter's school and spoke about the terrorists bombings in Israe (without any overtones such as you encounteredl. Would such a presentation even happen in this school?

Posted by JohnQC 2007-05-11 21:17|| 2007-05-11 21:17|| Front Page Top

#28 It was a follow-up to 9/11, :"What is this Islam thing, anyway?", strictly a one-off, JohnQC. I did a presentation about Hanukkah in the classrooms, every year the trailing daughters until the trailing daughters moved on, and spoke about the nationalistic aspects of the holiday (much like a Jewish St. Patrick's Day, dontchaknow). As a result, I became the go-to gal whenever anyone in the school had a question about anything Jewish or Israel -- when we moved there we were integrating the place. Now, there's a call out for translators for languages like Gujarati, Phonpeian and Urdu... and I don't even know what that middle one is.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-05-11 21:53|| 2007-05-11 21:53|| Front Page Top

#29 Zenster is right, that so long as nations like Pakistan proliferate nuclear weapons technology, and nations like Iraq and Iran proliferate WMD and train terrorists to make bombs and hijack airplanes, we do not have time to wait for Islam to be domesticated. Then too, as the daughter of an Israeli my concerns are a bit more immediate; I have relatives over there who live daily under the threat of Iran's missiles, which Ahmadenijad promises will soon have nuclear tips.

Thank you so much, trailing wife. I wish things were otherwise but they are not. Only fools and idiots would placidly await what Islam promises this world. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what redeeming features Islam has. So long as that question goes unanswered, there can be no middle ground with respect to Islam. It is, quite simply, far too violent, hostile and aggressive of a creed to permit it free reign, in every sense of the word.

Nowhere has Islam shown itself able to peacefully coexist with any other culture on earth. It is accompanied by an endless procession of brutality, barbarity and incipient terrorism that cannot be tolerated by civilized society.

One simple question: What are the enduring contributions of modern Muslims? Look at the Nobel Prize listings and consider just how very little modern Muslims have done to make this world a better place. Feel free to ignore the immense betterment of this world furnished by Jewish inventors and scientists, it matters not. When Islam's contributions are balanced against the ceaseless strife, savagery and atrocities that are done in its name, with little or no protest by the supposed "moderate Muslims", it becomes all too clear that this Neanderthal creed must be herded back into the confines of its origins. Once that is accomplished, further aggression should be met with consistent encroachment upon the edges of Muslim majority nations until they either abandon their stinking damned jihad or die for want of peaceful coexistence.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-05-11 22:56|| 2007-05-11 22:56|| Front Page Top

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