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2004-05-18 Home Front: Politix
Powell Distances Himself from President
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Posted by Dragon Fly 2004-05-18 09:59|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I'm not a Powell fan, but I think the New York Times is deliberately being misleading here. Powell said that some of the information presented to the administration was misleading, which is to say that the French deliberately planted a false story to discredit the administration's case on WMD's.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-05-18 10:09:56 AM||   2004-05-18 10:09:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 You expect accuracy from the New York Times?
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-05-18 10:17:28 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-05-18 10:17:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 It's been a staple of conventional press wisdom since, oh, say, about 9/13/01 that the Administration is bitterly divided between the "moderate" "sensible" Colin Powell (who would do what the NYT wishes he would do if he were in charge) and the "neocon cabal" of Rumsfeld and Rice (who, of course, want to blow up the world for Haliburton).

Don't believe it for a moment. These guys are all on the same team. Powell is the "nice cop" because, as Secretary of State, he is the institutional advocate of diplomacy. Rummy is the "bad cop" because, as Secretary of Defense, he's the institutional advocate of military force. Like any good nice-cop-bad-cop team, they're all on the same page. They may have disagreements--in fact, they're supposed to--but they're not adversaries.
Posted by Mike  2004-05-18 10:20:58 AM||   2004-05-18 10:20:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 No wonder he takes distance, that Pinokio nose is keeping growin and growin, could get in the eye you know.
Posted by Murat 2004-05-18 10:40:18 AM||   2004-05-18 10:40:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Murat, the personal rancor for our beloved President reflected in that statement I do not intend to dignify with comment.

Seriously, though, I haven't been following this terribly closely, but I heard rumors at one point that Powell may not be in the next administration (please forgive my ignorance if this has actually been confirmed and I missed it). Has there been some sort of split - perhaps over the course to take now in Iraq - or something?

I'm not as old as some of the people on this site, and only follow politics (esp. ME) as a hobby and because of some good friends who got me into it, but I've always admired Powell, thought he had a fairly decent head on his shoulders. It really would be a shame if Bush didn't have his counsel in some capacity - though that's just my personal opinion.
Posted by The Doctor 2004-05-18 10:49:32 AM||   2004-05-18 10:49:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Hey, Murat -- they caught the people behind the latest bombing in Turkey?
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-05-18 11:11:06 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-05-18 11:11:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 "I do not take offense that Mr. Colon Bowel has chosen this particular moment to distance himself from me, in fact I welcome it- Wheew!"
Posted by yours truely 2004-05-18 11:28:23 AM||   2004-05-18 11:28:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 wow - that was sophomoric, even by MY low standards

the medi aloves to use unnamed sources to divinne s chism between Bush and Powell, Bush and Rumsfeld, Bush and...well you get it. The LATimes has outdone itself this last week saying our Gov. Schwarzenegger (I love hearing that LOL) is distancing himself from Bush, but could offer zero proof - Ron Brownstein doing his Dem Whore act
Posted by Frank G  2004-05-18 11:32:53 AM||   2004-05-18 11:32:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Powell Distances Himself from President

New York Times Distances Self From Truth

Posted by BigEd 2004-05-18 11:45:10 AM||   2004-05-18 11:45:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I respect Colin for doing his job. The job will never make him a poster boy for the right, but the more I see of him the more I am impressed.
Posted by Phil B  2004-05-18 11:48:34 AM||   2004-05-18 11:48:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 No wonder he takes distance, that Pinokio nose is keeping growin and growin, could get in the eye you know.

You don't really believe that it's possible to live on Kool-Aid, do you?
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-05-18 12:05:34 PM||   2004-05-18 12:05:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Mike - its not just the liberal press that sees daylight between Powell (and the CIA) and the neocons. If you follow pro neocon pundits, like Jim Hoagland in the WaPo, Bill Kristol in the Weekly Standard, Frank Gaffney in the Wash Times, etc you see it as well. Oh, and a recent piece by an ex-CPA staffer in the NRO. And Wolfies statement that they justified the war on WMD (and not on terrorists connections or democracy promotion) cause it was "the only thing everyone agreed on". I think the factionalism within the current foreign policy team is blatant, and intense, and responsible for many of the problems. I myself favor the neocons over Powell, since I see Powell as favoring Saudi interests, and ready to back away from democracy in Iraq, along with other "realists".
Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-05-18 12:23:15 PM||   2004-05-18 12:23:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 LH (ref#3) It's Powell's DUTY to represent the world throught the prism of the Sec State. In that capacity he will undoubtly conflict with CIA, DOD, and DOJ on various issues. That's his job to present that view and he is very good at it. I remember when he was in Uniform he struck me as more politican than military (reagardless of the fruit salad) and this is the best position for him. If he doesn't stay on in the next administration look for Condi to take over state and Karen Hughes to become NSA. That would drive the Liberals CRAZY! Also don't look for some tell-all book (by Powell) that undermines the second term.
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) 2004-05-18 1:04:40 PM||   2004-05-18 1:04:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Powell is a root conservative with the good that means in normal times and the bad that means in challenging times. He always have been too much prudent and adept of following the book. I think is good for admin to have diferent views, but the Powell service in a State Department that has all vices that made possible 911 hasnt been positive.
State Department needed a cultural overhaul...
Posted by Anonymous4602 2004-05-18 1:08:07 PM||   2004-05-18 1:08:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Murat - you talk as if the Turkish govt has/is always telling the truth..like to your kurdish population..you should look at home before you start making false statements.

Exactly what did Bush lie about? I live in the US and follow politics closely and he did not lie. But what he did say has be misreprensented..and anyways there was and is WMD still in iraq..dumbass

your post have really sunken - almost to the point I question if this is really Murat.....
either way your a dumbass...

oh and say hi to your new niegbors..the proud nation of KURDISTAN...dumbass
Posted by Dan 2004-05-18 8:35:25 PM||   2004-05-18 8:35:25 PM|| Front Page Top

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