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2005-05-30 Afghanistan/South Asia
AIMPLB demands separate sharia law courts in India
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Posted by john 2005-05-30 08:23|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Given his reliance on medieval fiqh and his ignorance of the complexities of the modern world, he simply cannot envisage a system where Muslims are neither rulers nor the ruled but, at least in theory, co-rulers, or, simply, fellow citizens. Hence, he appears to see India as a country where Muslims are the ‘ruled’ and non-Muslims the ‘rulers’, equating it with Spain after the fall of Muslim rule. A text that he quotes from describes such a state as one where ‘kafirs [disbelievers] establish themselves over Muslims’

Fascinating. Sixty years after partition they reject the very basis of democracy.

Posted by john 2005-05-30 09:14||   2005-05-30 09:14|| Front Page Top

#2 Yesterday they demanded reservations for muslims in the parliament and government.

Hell, if they were given this in 1947, there would have been no partition and no Pakistan

New Delhi, May. 29 (PTI): The Jamiat-Ulama-i-Hind today demanded reservation for Muslims in Parliament, Legislative Assemblies and Government jobs and extended support to the 'model nikahnama' prepared by the All India Muslim Personal Law Board.

At the end of its 28th All India General Session held here, the Jamiat adopted a series of resolutions, which included demand for removal of restrictions on reservations based on religion, passing a Riot Prevention Act and immediate release of those arrested under POTA.

Posted by john 2005-05-30 09:18||   2005-05-30 09:18|| Front Page Top

#3 "ummmm,... no"
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-05-30 09:51||   2005-05-30 09:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Maybe yes.

India does not have uniform laws dealing with marriage, divorce, succession, inheritance and maintenance.

When in 1985 the Indian supreme court ruled in favor of a 75 year old muslim woman named Shah Bano Begum who had been triple talaqed by her husband and who wanted maintenance from him, they also directed the Indian governement to frame a uniform civil code (as the Indian constitution in its article 44 mandates).

Instead of implemeting the supreme court decision, the then Congress governement under Rajiv Gandhi, trying to appease its hardline muslim supporters,
rammed a bill through the Indian parliament in 1986 exempting Muslim women from the criminal law of maintenance (a section of the Indian Criminal Code that states that destitute, deserted, or divorced women are entitled to receive support from able husbands).

The present Congress government (under Rajiv's widow Sonia) last week directed a university to reserve 50 percent of postgraduate places for muslims.

The reliance on muslim votebanks for political power may actually produce sharia courts and muslim reservations in India.


Posted by john 2005-05-30 10:49||   2005-05-30 10:49|| Front Page Top

#5 Thanks, John. Very sad.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-05-30 11:31||   2005-05-30 11:31|| Front Page Top

#6 When I first read about this case I was shocked.

A 75 year old (in 1985) muslim woman is probably illiterate. She would have never worked, probably married at a young age (14 or less). Her only possessions would be her jewelry (what little she had).
So when her husband puts her on the street with a "I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you", she literally has nothing, no means of support. All property belongs to her husband.

Imagine the parliament of a large country passing a law that overturns a court order granting an old woman maintenance from a husband (of decades). Literally taking food out of an old woman's mouth.

All this to appease some ignorant mullahs

Posted by john 2005-05-30 12:04||   2005-05-30 12:04|| Front Page Top

#7 It would be easier to just kill the Mullahs. It would be smarter in the long run. If they desire this kind on governance they may move to Pakistan.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-05-30 12:31||   2005-05-30 12:31|| Front Page Top

#8 But far more politically expedient to encourage them. Here is Sonia Gandhi attending their meeting.

Posted by john 2005-05-30 16:13||   2005-05-30 16:13|| Front Page Top

#9 Indian politicans fall over themselves to appease the mullahs

I, Lalu, am saviour of Muslims

Never before had a public rally attracted so many Congressmen in a function other than their own.

Not only Congress leaders, including president Sonia Gandhi and her political advisor Ahmed Patel, but also Railway minister Lalu Prashad Yadav and Indian National Lok Dal leader Chaudhary Ajit Singh shared the dais.

It was the 28th general session of a leading Muslim group Jamiat Ulama-i-Hind in New Delhi Sunday evening.

The stage was set and speakers after speakers did every bit to woo Muslims who had come here from across the country. The police said it was 300,000-strong gathering at the Ramlila Grounds.

So, the stage was set. The Jamiat sought reservation for Muslims in Parliament, government jobs and educational institutions, and release of all POTA accused in Gujarat.

The politicians did not disappoint them. The promises went on and on. After all, elections are looming large over Bihar.

Lalu said: "Aise maqool samay mein aap ne adhiveshan bulaya hai (You have organized the conference at a perfect time)."

he criticised America for desecrating the holy Quran in Guantanamo Bay. Lalu sure knows the pulse of his voters.
Posted by john 2005-05-30 19:11||   2005-05-30 19:11|| Front Page Top

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