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2016-07-26 Europe

Brexit - worth a read from the indispensible Dalrymple

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Posted by Bov Flimbers 2016-07-26 01:57|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 Who Understands the European Project?

Putin?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-07-26 05:53|| 2016-07-26 05:53|| Front Page Top

#2 There is no doubt that the campaign to leave the European Union appealed to xenophobes, and indeed that there have been xenophobic incidents since the referendum; but it is an elementary error of logic to argue that if xenophobes voted for leaving, then those who voted for leaving were xenophobes. The fact that so many commentators and supporters of Britain remaining in the European Union did make precisely this error suggests that education and the ability to think are not necessarily identical.

That'd leave a mark, if the intellectuals were patient enough to read the whole paragraph.

Posted by Bobby 2016-07-26 07:24|| 2016-07-26 07:24|| Front Page Top

#3 Read about it here
EUSSR: The Soviet roots of European Integration - Vladimir Bukovsky

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2016-07-26 07:49|| 2016-07-26 07:49|| Front Page Top

#4 I think the word "xenophobe" is frequently over used.

Posted by jvalentour 2016-07-26 08:18|| 2016-07-26 08:18|| Front Page Top

#5 ...nothing ever changes: because the abuse and the complicity, the secretive rule by decree by career politico-bureaucrats without any real oversight, is not the consequences of the so-called European Project, it is the European Project.

There is but one "solution" to the march of the bureaucratic tyranny, individualism. The central planners, aka tyrants, are always with us and unless they are controlled with something like our original constitution AND THE WILL TO ENFORCE IT the cycle of violent revolution against the tyrants will continue.

Posted by AlanC 2016-07-26 08:31|| 2016-07-26 08:31|| Front Page Top

#6 I think the word "xenophobe" is frequently over used.

I find your statement problematic.

Posted by Pappy 2016-07-26 08:54|| 2016-07-26 08:54|| Front Page Top

#7 Glenn Reynolds at the Instapundit this morning again makes a point that he's made before: if the elites wish to be trusted, they need to be trustworthy. If the elites wish to run things, they need to be competent. If the elites wish to have the support of ordinary people, they have to respect ordinary people.

You can't govern a country you've never been to.

Posted by Steve White 2016-07-26 09:01|| 2016-07-26 09:01|| Front Page Top

#8 emotional incontinence

Good one!

I think the word "xenophobe" is frequently over used.

I guess homophobe and racist are losing their luster and they need a replacement?

Posted by gorb 2016-07-26 11:18|| 2016-07-26 11:18|| Front Page Top

#9 Yeah. I liked emotional incontinence too.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2016-07-26 11:22|| 2016-07-26 11:22|| Front Page Top

#10 Hey! BrExit did my portfolio good. I can't knock it.

Posted by 3dc 2016-07-26 11:32|| 2016-07-26 11:32|| Front Page Top

#11 I guess homophobe and racist are losing their luster and they need a replacement?

When both sides of the equation are white heterosexuals (the main concern was Polish plumbers and Romanian grifters, not vicious invaders from the ummah), and the accusers are over-educated but underlearnt, going straight to the Greek polysyllablism is inevitable.

Posted by trailing wife 2016-07-26 12:09|| 2016-07-26 12:09|| Front Page Top

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