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2009-11-01 International-UN-NGOs

British nuclear expert's UN death plunge 'not suicide'

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Posted by Steve White 2009-11-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views ] Top

#1 WAFF > TURKISH PM: IFF YOU [US-World] DON'T WANT IRAN TO HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS, GIVE YOURS UP!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-11-01 02:07|| na]">[na] 2009-11-01 02:07|| Front Page Top

#2 Joseph, I dont think anyone is big enough... and I also dont think anyone and his brother and the neighbors is big enough to make the United States do a damn thing about getting rid of its nuclear arsenal. What do you think? When are you gonna learn that right and wrong dont have a damn thing to do with the use of Force? Your Momma dont matter, Joseph.

You are wasting air even suggesting that it might ever happen, you do understand wasting your time and your air dont you?

Now with a military ten times bigger than all of the ten other military in a big unmarked box, the United States is going to feel somewhat confident most of the time.

We may not have the right "strategy" down exactly some of the time, but we can make up for that by being brutal and just shooting your dog and grinning. And then the ball is in your court and you can either play by our rules or wipe your nose.

Or you can denounce us at the UN and see what it gets you.

Iran in the long run, cant really expect to keep what it has and have the United States just say "well, OK."
As soon as Iran admits to having a nuke, they have signed their Last Will and Testament. Then it goes into Endgame. No matter what administration is in the Oval Office at that time... the American People will be the A team.

No one likes a war, you avoid them as long as you can, sometimes you avoid them longer than was good for all concerned. But when they do come around there is a basic rule that is absolutely unchanging..."somebody wins and somebody loses".

Joseph, ( sad but true) We Have nuked people before and we are perfectly capable in this unjust and vicious world of doing it again.

When it is all said and done Human Nature is a not very nice. And there are always six men out of a hundred who do 87% of the killing. And there are one or two of that six who are unbelievable.

Joseph, those six men dont sit down and talk things over with you. They will come at you from the side and pull your plug and you wont even get a warning. Trust me , the US military is full of those guys.

There inevitably comes a moment in politics when these guys get the nod. Iran is living on borrowed time. And it IS only a matter of time now. There isnt going to be a happy ending, Joseph. Its already getting dark and the candy hasnt worked.

Posted by Angleton9 2009-11-01 06:40|| 2009-11-01 06:40|| Front Page Top

#3 Iran is living on borrowed time. And it IS only a matter of time now.

If you're suggesting the US will get involved with Iran to forcibly deal with anything to do with nukes now or in the future, don't bet on it unless they threaten the US directly. Even then, any response wouldn't likely be out in the open. It doesn't matter anyhow, Iran has nothing to fear from the current US administration, and to think the UN can do anything is just foolish.
The genie is out of the bottle and won't be put back ever.

Posted by NCMike 2009-11-01 07:31|| 2009-11-01 07:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Angleton9 your having an indepth discussion with a logistics, command and control computer that dabbles in AI.

Posted by .5MT 2009-11-01 07:50|| 2009-11-01 07:50|| Front Page Top

#5 Typical slip and fall accident. The UN will be hearing from his lawyers.

Posted by ed 2009-11-01 09:03|| 2009-11-01 09:03|| Front Page Top

#6 "WAFF > TURKISH PM: IFF YOU [US-World] DON'T WANT IRAN TO HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS, GIVE YOURS UP!" Posted by: JosephMendiola

"You are wasting air even suggesting that it might ever happen, you do understand wasting your time and your air dont you?" Posted by: Angleton9

Ummm, Angleton? I know Joe's a little hard to understand sometimes, particularly when he forgets to take the caps-lock key off, but you do realize he's not saying that himself, but reporting what the Turkish PM said, don't you?

As for the ~~Bambi~~ present Administration, I'd no doubt whatsoever that if they could figure out how to get rid of America's nukes - thereby damaging America even more than they already have - without hurting themselves, they'd do it in a heartbeat.

If that heartbeat happens to be yours and mine, so much the better.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-11-01 09:36|| 2009-11-01 09:36|| Front Page Top

#7 Obama has repeatedly stated he favors dismantling the US nuclear stockpile. Initiatives started last Spring in that direction.

Posted by lotp 2009-11-01 10:33|| 2009-11-01 10:33|| Front Page Top

#8 "I'd" = "I've"

Nutz. :-(

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-11-01 10:54|| 2009-11-01 10:54|| Front Page Top

#9 Angleton9,
Don't punish the messenger for delivering the message. Call up the Turkish PM and talk him to death about Iran/nukes...

Posted by ReadCloselyNextTime 2009-11-01 13:24|| 2009-11-01 13:24|| Front Page Top

#10 And there are always six men out of a hundred who do 87% of the killing. And there are one or two of that six who are unbelievable.

Overall a good rant, Angleton9 dear. But, some of the things JosephM has let slip in his less capitalized posts suggest he is either one of those six men you mention, or puffing himself up immensely. Of course, I am not qualified to judge which is true.

WAFF > TURKISH PM:

JosephMendiola can be a bit difficult to translate, and many of us have stumbled over that -- me repeatedly, and if I'm tired I don't do more than skim his posts. In the one at the top of the thread he references an article he either saw at a site called WAFF, or comes from a news site named WAFF, presumably analogous to AP, UPI, Iran Press TV. The headline or the subject of the article is something the Turkish prime minister said. JosephM does not check to see if Rantburg has covered something when he decides it's important to share; about half the time we've already had it here, but the rest of the time it is more or less useful, and with the source we can look it up for ourselves.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2009-11-01 17:40|| 2009-11-01 17:40|| Front Page Top

#11 Joe M. is an Oracle. He cranks out prophecy in a mysterious and convoluted format. We mere mortals are tasked with figuring out what it all means.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2009-11-01 20:48|| 2009-11-01 20:48|| Front Page Top

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