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2004-12-08 Arabia
Gulf of Rumsfeld countries ponder security independence from US
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Posted by Steve White 2004-12-08 12:10:28 AM|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I expect China will eventually be the new protector. They both don't mind shooting their own citizens.
Posted by ed 2004-12-08 4:30:40 AM||   2004-12-08 4:30:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Not afraid of Iraq anymore?
Posted by Anonymous6236  2004-12-08 6:58:32 AM||   2004-12-08 6:58:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 So they want to include Pakistan, with India as the military guarantor of regional security? Yuppers, that'll work.
Posted by trailing wife 2004-12-08 7:26:39 AM||   2004-12-08 7:26:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Gulf countries are making noises about new security arrangements that would reduce their traditional alliance with the United States, a move whose feasibility was quickly questioned by observers.

The term 'observers' is journalese for other journalists.
Posted by badanov  2004-12-08 7:43:19 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif]  2004-12-08 7:43:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 After reading Putin's comment about the invalid elections in Iraq, due to the occupation - it's becoming more clear what is going on here. These countries, threatened by the inevitable prospect of democracy in their region are under the delusion that they can join to crush it. No wonder we are sending more troops.

That they will inevitably begin to eat each other up doesn't bother them because each one has their own delusions of grandeur.
Posted by 2b 2004-12-08 7:45:11 AM||   2004-12-08 7:45:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 These countries would be wise to remember that we have nukes and if they do something really stupid, we have the will to use them.
Posted by 2b 2004-12-08 7:51:40 AM||   2004-12-08 7:51:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 we have the will to use them.

No, we don't.

We don't even have the will to carry out the world's cleanest, most conscientious conventional campaign without spending more time on the few mistakes than on what we've accomplished.

The US will never use nukes. Saddam and bin Laden called our bluff.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-12-08 8:11:56 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-12-08 8:11:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 RC, ...without spending more time on the few mistakes than on what we've accomplished.

Who's we? Don't bag 'we' with MSM. Did you expect from them something else?

Anyhoo...
Some fresh snippets...
Seems Syria is on the table:

Washington Post reports US troops in Fallujah discovered global positioning signal receiver containing “waypoints originating in western Syria” to direct bomb charges.

Jordan’s Abdullah charged in Washington: Foreign fighters are coming across the Syrian border after training in Syria. Another White House visitor Iraqi president Yawar said Saddam remnants in Syria are trying to bring back “the vicious Saddam dictatorship.”
Posted by Sobiesky 2004-12-08 8:41:48 AM||   2004-12-08 8:41:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 
Who's we? Don't bag 'we' with MSM. Did you expect from them something else?

"We" means the entire country. I know rantburgers are sane, but there aren't enough rantburgers to make a difference when the press gets its Crusade on.

Until we have a press that doesn't commit treason as easily as it breathes, we're screwed.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-12-08 10:23:46 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-12-08 10:23:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 but there aren't enough rantburgers to make a difference when the press gets its Crusade on

Not currently, no, but this can and will change. All the more reason for rantburgers and bloggers to start sourcing and reporting news stories themselves.

We're really in a footrace here to develop democracy in the middle east before the mullahs get nukes and the other gulf-region thugocrats figure out how to play off the mullahocracy against us. Likewise, at home we're also in a footrace to develop alternative news sources before the MSM can pull another Cronkite a la Tet.

Faster, please.
Posted by lex 2004-12-08 10:31:49 AM||   2004-12-08 10:31:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Look, it's nice to talk and discuss the future of the region. But the FM of Iran was in the same room as our NSA and Abizaid? Huh? Did they get up and walk out when the Irani spoke? Or did they exchange business cards? This can only prop up the Mullahs, which is not in our or Iranian's interest. Do we want the Mullahs in power or out of it, W?
Posted by chicago mike  2004-12-08 2:12:56 PM||   2004-12-08 2:12:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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