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2003-04-03 Home Front
Kerry calls for Regime Change in U.S.
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Posted by Frank G 2003-04-03 10:38 am|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Before this, he was the leading Dem in NH, IA and SC? I thought I wanted Carolyn Mosley-Braun to get the nomination, but it appears the frontrunner will now suffice. . .
Posted by Brian  2003-04-03 10:55:10||   2003-04-03 10:55:10|| Front Page Top

#2 He also said in the same speech (according to Man. Union Leader): Just because the U.S. Supreme Court made a decision in its selection, and an error in its decision in the year 2000, doesn’t mean we have to live with it for six more years,” he told an overflow crowd at the Peterborough Public Library.

How "loyal" is questioning the legitimacy of the C-in-C during a war? Especially this tired old debunked crap?
Posted by Mark IV 2003-04-03 11:06:10||   2003-04-03 11:06:10|| Front Page Top

#3 Like most of the dummycheats, Kerry believes that opinion polls are more important than constitutional government, and that when someone does something without the expressed consent of the Dummycheat party, it's illegal.

I hope he gets the nomination, and 6% of the popular vote. I hope ralph nadir (deliberately spelled that way, look it up) runs as a Green, and gets more votes than Kerry.

Someone should tell Kerry and the Dummycheat party that their first duty as an elected official is to the Constitution, not their party.
Posted by Old Patriot  2003-04-03 11:11:31||   2003-04-03 11:11:31|| Front Page Top

#4 More rambling from a morally bankrupt, out of ideas political party.
Posted by Doug De Bono  2003-04-03 11:19:49|| [www.douglasdebono.com]  2003-04-03 11:19:49|| Front Page Top

#5 As a member of the Great Non voting Majority that makes up this country, watch me and millions of others come off the bench in 04, we want to drive a nail into the left so deep they'll never get up.

Count me in as a voter in 04 against any of the Left.
Posted by AnonymousLy yours  2003-04-03 11:25:23||   2003-04-03 11:25:23|| Front Page Top

#6 On what basis is Kerry the front runner? any polls lately?

At this point its wide open, and hawks Leiberman, Edwards and Gephardt are just as much in as dove Dean and fencesitter Kerry.
Posted by liberalhawk 2003-04-03 11:27:41||   2003-04-03 11:27:41|| Front Page Top

#7 The early Democratic primaries are dominated by the far left liberal wing of the party. The "hawks" have been booed when they show up at the rallies held recently, while the extremists are being cheered. You loose the early primaries and your money dries up.
Posted by Steve  2003-04-03 11:45:37||   2003-04-03 11:45:37|| Front Page Top

#8 It's 'stabbing the troops in the back' for the leading Democratic contender for the nomination to criticize Bush (who IS actually the worst President in American history)?

Why have a democracy?

The normalization of intimidating thuggery is the GOPs only recourse in the face of its incredible policy failure on all fronts.
Posted by wetzel 2003-04-03 11:45:47||   2003-04-03 11:45:47|| Front Page Top

#9  Steve - yeah, Edwards was boohed by the California Dem. State comm. - I doubt that hurts Edwards.

Iowa causus leans left, and this may push Kerry ahead of Gephardt there, but not that important to candidates from elsewhere. NH primary leans somewhat left, but has been known to surprise dem lefties (Carter beat Kennedy there in '80 iirc, and Gore beat Bradley in 2000) As for SC, I think that has tended to favor southern moderates - looks like a must win for Edwards. Leiberman (like Kerry) needs NH more than Edwards does.

As for money, the Dem money sources are much more limited than GOP. Basically Silicon Valley, Hollywood, trial lawyers, and Jews. Aside from fact that Edwards IS a trial lawyer, I cant see trial lawyers supporting someone who doesnt look like a winner in the general election. Ditto for Silicon Valley, to which Lieberman has strong ties. While Jews overall are split on the war, majority are pro-war, and this is at least as true for big donors - I dont see them pulled to Kerry vs Gephardt, Lieberman, Edwards. Hollywood - now there youve got me, they dont like Lieberman, and may well be drawn to Kerry (although some will go for Dean)
Posted by liberalhawk 2003-04-03 11:57:54||   2003-04-03 11:57:54|| Front Page Top

#10 He's trying to tack to the left of Howard Dean, then back to the middle once the NH primary's over, if he's still in the top 2.

Face it, if it weren't for this vain, fence straddling, blow-dried idiotic stuffed shirt, half of my blog would disappear. What an Masshole.
Posted by Raj 2003-04-03 12:01:57|| [angrycyclist.blogspot.com]  2003-04-03 12:01:57|| Front Page Top

#11 Wetzel,calling someone "unpatriotic" or "dummycheats" is not "intimidating thuggery".It's utilising your freedom of speech,just like Kerry's talk of "regime change" or the Left's liberal use of the word "fascist" to describe all right-wingers.One has a right to talk like a jackass,the other,a right to call him one.
Posted by El Id  2003-04-03 12:03:10||   2003-04-03 12:03:10|| Front Page Top

#12 I just hope that the Iraqis don't use his words as part of torturing our POWs. How incredibly thoughtless and irresponsible of him to provide our enemy with words to use against them! The Iraqi torturers will say that even the elected leaders of our government believe that what our soldiers are doing is wrong and illegal, so why should our soldiers be shown any mercy? Kerry and others who speak this way should be held accountable.
Posted by stephen  2003-04-03 12:04:34||   2003-04-03 12:04:34|| Front Page Top

#13 Actually, Wetzel, history very likely will remember Bush as one of the all-time best presidents, not the worst.

I'm glad I'm no longer a Democrat. If I were, next year's primary season would be a nightmare: what a bunch of idiots to choose from.
Posted by Dave D. 2003-04-03 12:09:14||   2003-04-03 12:09:14|| Front Page Top

#14 Wetzel, I believe it did stab our troops by demeaning the sacrifice they're making for a true regime change. To casually toss that phrase around - as if the Iraqis could just vote Saddam and his Baathists out - is to denigrate the power of the act we're engaged in. It's the same as the Paleos calling the killing of Jenin terrorists a Holocaust. I hope Kerry stays the frontrunner among the Dem party base - his crushing among the general vote will kill that party for decades
Posted by Frank G  2003-04-03 12:12:23||   2003-04-03 12:12:23|| Front Page Top

#15 Wetzel:
Because the presidency of Jimmy Carter, NOBODY, past, present, or future, will EVER be the worst president of the United States.
Posted by tu3031 2003-04-03 12:13:47||   2003-04-03 12:13:47|| Front Page Top

#16 We should all go out and register as Democrats and make sure this bozo get the nomination with a running mate of Carol MB (is that for Mercedez-Benz??)

With him running for president I can see additional GOP senators and representatives on the horizon.
Posted by Anonymous 2003-04-03 12:15:12||   2003-04-03 12:15:12|| Front Page Top

#17 John Kerry, the Murat of the US Senate.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-04-03 12:36:43||   2003-04-03 12:36:43|| Front Page Top

#18 Yeah, well Kerry said this today. Tomorrow he'll say something else to placate everybody he pissed off today.
My junior senator. Ya gotta love the amazing lifelike bastard!
Posted by tu3031 2003-04-03 12:59:44||   2003-04-03 12:59:44|| Front Page Top

#19 As an Illinois resident, let me assure you all (and especially assure Wetzel!) that former Senator Moseley Braun would be exactly the sort of boat anchor Karl Rove would want to tie the Democratic nominee to. Ms. Braun is a Chicago machine democrat and has all their flaws -- mostly an imperious refusal to remain on the proper side of the ethical codes. From the land grab from her saintly mother to the foreign travel paid for by the Nigerian government to the really, really stupid things she's said over the years, she's exactly who the Republicans should want as the democratic VP nominee.

It says something about the Democrats, Wetzel, that they consider Ms. Braun to be someone who should run in the primaries to take votes away from Al Sharpton. Are you guys afraid of something?

One more thing, Wetzel: when the democrats stop using the phrase "regime change" in reference to the 2004 election, I'll stop referring to the Democrats as "dummycrats."
Posted by Steve White  2003-04-03 12:59:52||   2003-04-03 12:59:52|| Front Page Top

#20 I loathe John Kerry but I want him to win the Democratic nomination, since I remember what happened the last time a Massachusetts politician went up against a George Bush.
Posted by Eric Lindholm  2003-04-03 13:24:41|| [vikingpundit.blogspot.com]  2003-04-03 13:24:41|| Front Page Top

#21 I loathe John Kerry but I want him to win the Democratic nomination, since I remember what happened the last time a Massachusetts politician went up against a George Bush.
Posted by Eric Lindholm  2003-04-03 13:25:24|| [vikingpundit.blogspot.com]  2003-04-03 13:25:24|| Front Page Top

#22 ''But it will take a new president who is prepared to lead ..."

OK!!? And we need another President who leads with his wet, poll-testing finger in the air like we need a gaping hole in our collective head!! I get so TIRED of this trite liberal rhetoric. Will someone PLEASE put them out of my misery???
Posted by Samma-lamma 2003-04-03 14:23:25||   2003-04-03 14:23:25|| Front Page Top

#23 Thank you Samma Lamma. My thoughts exactly. I'm a former Dem and Kerry is exemplary of why. Bush has taken the lead; he just disagreed with UN crowd, not followed Fischer and de Villepin's advice.

"Regime change"? How obscene for a democratically (no pun intended) elected official to refer to his own country's form of govt. as a "regime" Can you believe how the Founders would feel at that remark?

And Kerry has been consulting diplomats and world leaders on US-Iraq? He's probably been shitting on his country and those of us who support the war to these outsiders. Hope you know they don't vote, JFK. Hey John I've got 17 years of living in the Arab world, and have taught university French. Come talk to me and I'll explain sagement en francais pourquoi j'estime tellement notre president en depit de ses deux voyages a l'etranger avant Nov. 2000. I doubt if you'd be able to keep up with me, you cretin.

Just how the hell did a gutsy guy like you go so soft and Old Europe? As a Chicagoan, yeah, please take Carol Mosley Braun (big deal here why she has dropped her hymen, oops, I mean hyphen) out of my sight and make her your VP candidate. NOT!!!!

To sum up, you, especially a vet should at least withold any comment until we're taken over Iraq.
Posted by Michael 2003-04-03 15:49:09||   2003-04-03 15:49:09|| Front Page Top

#24 Wetzel, I think you need some quiet time
Posted by Wills 2003-04-03 16:15:02||   2003-04-03 16:15:02|| Front Page Top

#25 I live in a Georgia, where in the last election, a senator who lost two legs and an arm in Vietnam was slimed by the GOP as unpatriotic.

During the Kosovo campaign, the Republican leadership made continuous vituperative attack on then Commander in Chief Clinton that would be considered treasonous under the standard that Kerry is today being judged.

The reaction in the so called liberal media to Kerry's statement will be another illustration of the use of war psychosis as a vehicle for the GOP to silence debate. This is profoundly un-American. Our country has faced far worse crises in its history but our democracy has never been this endangered. Do the people who have posted here really mean to say that John Kerry, Vietnam war hero, three term senator, is aiding and abetting the enemy by using the term 'regime change' to describe the next election?

I didn't know you guys were so 'sensitive'. Did it hurt your feelings?

Besides, when is someone going to defend Bush's record?

He was asleep at his post on September 11.

He is allowing North Korea to become a nuclear power.

His economy is the worst since Hoover.

And on the national security front, his incredibly inept diplomacy has made the United States a pariah state. The man is a veritable recruiting agent for Al Quaeda.
Posted by wetzel 2003-04-03 16:26:08||   2003-04-03 16:26:08|| Front Page Top

#26 Wetzel, now that:
where in the last election, a senator who lost two legs and an arm in Vietnam was slimed by the GOP as unpatriotic

is a goddamn lie, which the desperate always cling to. He was never said to be unpatriotic and his sacrifice speaks for itself. what was said about Cleland was that he supported his party rather than the President (who symbolizes more than Clinton, McAuliffe, Inc.) and he paid the political price for same. Opinion I disagree with is one thing, outright lies will be called same
and you are lying
Posted by Frank G  2003-04-03 16:40:52||   2003-04-03 16:40:52|| Front Page Top

#27 Ahhh, guys. Wetzel is just a Karl Rove plant to discredit the Donks. He's only here to develop some ligit points for when he pops up on raving lefty blogs.
Posted by Don  2003-04-03 16:57:00||   2003-04-03 16:57:00|| Front Page Top

#28 As a Democrat, Clark, Lieberman, or even Edwards are looking better all the time.

I have mucho complaints with this administration but I see no reason to go bootlicking to the bitch goddess of multilateralism.
Posted by Hiryu 2003-04-03 18:02:24||   2003-04-03 18:02:24|| Front Page Top

#29 I live in Georgia, too, wetzel.
From where I sit you got a lot of room on the porch to yourself.
For the first time since yankees were shooting at us everything but the dogcatcher went republican.
Cleland wasn't voted out for mudslinging.
He was voted out for arrogant and blind.
He missed the wind changing, as did Cynthia McKinney.
Kerry might need to wet a finger, too.
As for "allowing" the North Koreans to become a nuclear power...what should he have done, build them a reactor if they promised to nuke their cousins on somebody elses watch?
Posted by redclay  2003-04-03 18:32:49|| [www.deadjournal.com/users/redclay/]  2003-04-03 18:32:49|| Front Page Top

#30 I've never registered as either a dummycheat or a repuglycon. Both political parties stink. However, the party of George Bush at least remains loyal to the principles of the Constitution. The dummycheats are doing everything they can to make the repuglycons look bad including refusing to allow a vote on any of George Bush's judicial nominees. This is a direct violation of their oath "to support and defend the Constitution ... and to bear true faith and allegience to the same". The dummycheats have established that their only loyalty is to the dummycheat party. They all should be hauled out and hung, with the exception of Zell Miller, who is an old-fashioned man of principle. He's the only think keeping the dummycheats from having a perfect record as leftist tyrants who don't care about anything but their party.
Posted by Old Patriot  2003-04-03 18:51:47||   2003-04-03 18:51:47|| Front Page Top

#31 Wetzel, now that: where in the last election, a senator who lost two legs and an arm in Vietnam was slimed by the GOP as unpatriotic is a goddamn lie, which the desperate always cling to. He was never said to be unpatriotic and his sacrifice speaks for itself.

Chambliss DID accuse Clelland on at least one occasion of "breaking his oath to protect and defend the Constitution." In essence, Chambliss accused Cleland of treason.

As if to emphasize his point, Chambliss even ran a TV ad. Maybe you saw it, maybe not. The ad associated Cleland with Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.

"As America faces terrorists and extremist dictators," the announcer said as images of bin Laden and Hussein appear on screen, "Max Cleland runs television ads claiming he has the courage to lead."

I suppose you could deconstruct that down to nothingness, but to me the implication is clear: Cleland is a coward and a traitor. And this, about a man who lost both legs and an arm while serving in Vietnam. [Note: Chambliss didn't serve because he had a bad knee.]

What was Cleland's transgression anyway? Cleland voted for a successful 1997 amendment to the chemical weapons treaty that removed language barring inspectors from certain countries from being part of United Nations inspection teams in Iraq. BTW, several prominent Republicans voted for this too.

By Koresh, Republicans sure can dish it out, but they cannot take it.

By the way, I'm supporting Dean. If Kerry wins the nomination, I'll work like hell for him, but to me, right now, he doesn't pass the test. Kerry can't win in the South.

Besides, we already have one Skull and Bonesman.
Posted by wetzel 2003-04-03 19:18:27||   2003-04-03 19:18:27|| Front Page Top

#32 My my, tell me wetzel, are you a former writer for SNL? For my money you're one of the more entertaining dimbulb donks I've seen in at least...a couple of weeks.

Defend Dubya's record? LOL, you really must get out from under your rock more often.

Asleep? If my memory serves me well, the President had almost shaken off the last of the ankle-biting yapping donks when 9-11 occured (SELECTED NOT ELECTED!!!! Yadda, yadda, yadda...). Considering the shambles the FBI, CIA, and the military was in when he took office, I think he's done rather well (still too many Clintonista's hanging around for my tastes though...).

Allowed the Norks to become a nuclear power? I amazed you even have the NERVE to make that statement (just one more reason why Carter should be thrown into a very deep, dark hole and kept there at GUNPOINT!).

Economy? Nice try fuckwit. Everyone with five working braincells knows that the downturn started in 1999. Amazing how you can cook the GNP numbers when you're power (inflated by 30%). Too bad ole Robogore couldn't pull it off, eh wetzel?

National security? Jihadi's dead or in properly small cages, the rest fleeing for their pathetic little lives...I can live with that, although there's always room for improvement. Inept diplomacy? Hmmm, let's see...we now have fair idea who are friends are. We damn sure know who are ENEMIES are (ALWAYS a good thing, eh wetzel?).

But enough of that, let's get back to the non-Irish Mr. Kerry. Why are the donks throwing themselves into the woodchipper? There are many reasons (besides utter stupidity): Nader (the darling of the eco-fascist left), 9-11 and donk's inability to grasp the enormity of the threat facing Western Civilization (yes wetzel, the thing your 'fellow traveller' buddies hate with all their being).
Why Kerry's behavior? Take a long look at the street: see those pathetic drum-banging, die-in poseurs...that's current donk base that they're are fighting over (lest Nader snatch them away...). Yes folks, a piddling segment of the voting population. Sad isn't it.

Tell me wetzel, were you paying attention last November? Did you notice that American went into those voting booths and asked themselves: 'who will defend my home, my nation, my future?' Care to guess who they DIDN'T PICK? (Answer correctly and you get a cookie...).
Did the donks grasp this fact? It would appear NOT.

So my cute capering donk troll, keep pretending that the sun is not rising and the shadows aren't growing dimmer. 2004 will be a very interesting year...the year the donks get their asses handed to them by moronic, selected puppet. Gee, won't you all look sooo stupid (why yes, you will).

I'm sure you'll make a lovely statue.
Posted by Charles  2003-04-03 20:02:48||   2003-04-03 20:02:48|| Front Page Top

#33 Wetzel, I too am from Georgia and the reason Cleland didn't win is because he put union jobs before national security and as for blaming North Korea on Bush? It was your hero Jimmah Carter who negotiated the treaty that the NK's violated. This shit happened on Billy boy Clinton's watch.
Posted by Denny 2003-04-03 21:18:10|| [www.grouchyoldcripple.com]  2003-04-03 21:18:10|| Front Page Top

#34 Wetzel proclaimed: His [Bush's] economy is the worst since Hoover.

Wetzel, I'm guessing you're an adult. Therefore, you lived (as I did) through the stagflation years of 1977 - 1980. Do you recall who was president then? We had high interest rates, high inflation and high unemployment all wrapped together. That was the first time since Hoover that one could be alarmed that the US really was going to become unglued.

The recession we're now coming out of (slowly, yes) is mild compared to some past recessions in the last century. You might want to look at those as a reminder of how good we have it now.
Posted by Steve White  2003-04-03 23:50:43||   2003-04-03 23:50:43|| Front Page Top

#35 Wetzel the voice of the Chiraq wing of the Democrat Party can't distinguish between slander and the truth. But like the faux Irishman Kerry, Wetzel prefers to spin the truth for his own ends. Kerry is an example of a man without honor, without integrity. A perfect Democrat.
Posted by TJ Jackson  2003-04-04 00:33:51||   2003-04-04 00:33:51|| Front Page Top

#36 Worst economy since Hoover? Who are you kidding??

The census showed we absorbed the equivalent of the population of Canuckistan between 1990-2000, 30 mil. And unemployment figures are finally reaching the former panty-snapper-in-chief from 1993-95.

How many people did we have in the US during Hoover's administration? How many do we have now? What was one of the FPSIC's reasons to vote for him? B41 was paying too much attention to foreign affairs and not enough on the domestic front.

In case you haven't noticed, we were attacked on 9/11, much less since 1979.

Foreign is domestic.

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--and Gore beat Bradley in 2000)--

An interesting tidbit ended up in the blogosphere w/in the last 6 weeks. A former talking head for Prince Al's campaign put a rumor to rest at a college talk. It seems Prince Al's team knew Bradley was on his way to winning the primary especially because those who would vote for Bradley would do so after work. They did not think about overturning a semi to block traffic on the main highway to discourage voters, but they did send thousands of their minions onto the same highway to slow traffic down so potential voters would be discouraged.

I think it was Crooowblog who had the link.
Posted by Anonymous 2003-04-04 01:04:07||   2003-04-04 01:04:07|| Front Page Top

#37 Wetzel=weasel,maybe the INS out to check this guy out.
I(One of 70%)of the U.S.fully support Pries.Bush.
It is about time we have a Priesedent with enough brass in his balls to stand-up to the Terrorist dominated U.N.S.C and the Axis of Weasals.
Posted by raptor  2003-04-04 07:30:29||   2003-04-04 07:30:29|| Front Page Top

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