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2003-09-01 Europe

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Posted by Steve White 2003-09-01 1:26:36 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 close the screen door next time

Posted by Frank G 2003-9-1 10:13:58 AM|| 2003-9-1 10:13:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm always reminded of this quote whenever I see this kind of farce out of the former Soviet Union. "The government pretends to pay us and we pretend to work". Utopia, whats not to like.

Posted by Lucky 2003-9-1 12:57:45 PM|| 2003-9-1 12:57:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Could one of you all that's in the know chip in and inform me why a towed sub needs 10 sailors on board? The only thing my landlubber brain can think of is they're there to secure tow lines and, later, land lines.

Posted by Dar 2003-9-1 1:03:17 PM|| [http://users.stargate.net/~dsteckel/] 2003-9-1 1:03:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Steve White---Thanks for mentioning "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Montserrat. That was one great book! I remember one part about the things one learned on convoy duty: stare for hours in thick fog, learned to endure incredible fatigue for hours on end, and learned to die without wasting other people's time (or something like that).

Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-9-1 2:24:17 PM|| 2003-9-1 2:24:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Dar, The crew onboard is necessary to keep the generators running, steering, trimming the ballast tanks along with deck duties (lines, etc.) Also one is needed to pour the Vodka and coordinate the toasts to the mighty Peoples Navy.

Posted by oldsalt 2003-9-1 2:29:02 PM|| 2003-9-1 2:29:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Suba are hard to handle in the surfaced condition even in decent weather becasue the have no keel ( a heavy weight which keeps the center of gravity low and prevents rolling over.) Still it should be hard to actually sink a sub that is ballasted effectively. Bull Halsey learned how important ballasting was during a WWII typhoon that sprung up unexpectedly.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-9-1 5:02:51 PM|| 2003-9-1 5:02:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Dar, the crew would be running the diesel-generator for onboard power, operating bilge pumps (old boats, many leaks), making sure running lights kept on, handling lines, lotsa stuff.

Posted by Bubblehead 2003-9-1 6:58:17 PM|| 2003-9-1 6:58:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Thanks, gentlemen! Chores kept me from revisiting the forum 'til now, but I appreciate the info!

Posted by Dar 2003-9-2 11:29:14 AM|| [http://users.stargate.net/~dsteckel/] 2003-9-2 11:29:14 AM|| Front Page Top

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