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2004-06-23 Britain
UK Tragedy : Live babies being born after abortions
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Posted by Super Hose 2004-06-23 2:47:11 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 eewwww
Posted by B 2004-06-23 8:45:47 AM||   2004-06-23 8:45:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 We feed them to the muzzies ;)
Posted by Howard UK 2004-06-23 9:55:56 AM||   2004-06-23 9:55:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Think of the advertising potential. "Your baby dead, or your money back!"
Posted by BH 2004-06-23 10:12:42 AM||   2004-06-23 10:12:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Have you considered the PR field BH?
That was highly offensive and yet, and yet
very effective. :)
Posted by Shipman 2004-06-23 11:43:58 AM||   2004-06-23 11:43:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 heh. I would be sooo divorced if I ever took that job! I'm not coming out for or against, I just thought that the article was written... oddly. It's like, "Dammit! Another one got through!"
Posted by BH 2004-06-23 1:17:59 PM||   2004-06-23 1:17:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Good thing you don't have the quantity of lawyers we have in the United States.
Posted by eLarson 2004-06-23 1:51:41 PM||   2004-06-23 1:51:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 "It is really unfair on the nurses and the parents to see the baby making some sort of movement after birth” . . . Guidance issued by the Royal College of Obstetrics and Gynaecologists states that a legal abortion must not be allowed to result in a live birth.

I totally agree. It’s a hard enough job without having to be “confronted” with this. Besides, I say fuck the "babies"! They have no ability to live outside help from others, so their lives are at our disposal. Every civilized woman (and her partner) has a RIGHT TO CHOOSE one of the following options to rid themselves of unwanted, unplanned pregnancies . Also, if a woman wants to avoid a "live birth problem" she should choose from among the first few types, depending on the trimester. We have a right to know what we choose:

Suction
The abortionist paralyzes the cervix.  A hollow plastic tube with a knife-like tip is inserted into the uterus.  The tube is connected to a pump with a suction force 29 times more powerful than a home vacuum cleaner. The procedure tears the baby's body into pieces and the hose frequently jerks as pieces of the baby become lodged.  The placenta is then cut from the inner wall of the uterus and the scraps are sucked out into a bottle.

Dilatation & Curettage (D&C)
Used during the first 10 weeks (uncommon).  This is similar to the suction procedure except that the abortionist inserts a curette, a loop-shaped steel knife up into the uterus.  The placenta is cut, and baby into pieces and scrapes them out into a basin.  Bleeding is usually profuse.

Dilatation & Evacuation (D&E)
Performed during the second trimester (4-6 months) of pregnancy.  This method has largely replaced saline and chemical abortions, which too frequently resulted in live births.  A pliers-like instrument is needed because the baby's bones are calcified, as is the skull.  There is no anesthetic for the baby. The abortionist inserts the instrument into the uterus, seizes a leg or other part of the body and, with a twisting motion, tears it from the baby's body.   This is repeated again and again.  The spine must be snapped, and the skull crushed to remove them.  The nurse's job is to reassemble the body parts to be sure that all are removed.

D & X  (Partial Birth)
Also used for advanced pregnancies.  The cervix is dilated to allow passage of a ring forceps.  A foot or lower leg is located and pulled into the vagina.   The baby is extracted in breech fashion until the head is just inside the cervix. The baby's legs hang outside the woman's body.  With the baby face-down, scissors are plunged into the baby's head at the nape of the neck and spread open to enlarge the wound.  A suction tip is inserted and the baby's brain is removed. The skull collapses and the baby is delivered.  Sharp and suction curettage is continued until the walls of the womb are clean. 

LIVE BIRTH PROBLEMS:

Salt Poisoning a.k.a. "Candy Apple Babies:"
Most often used after the first trimester (first three months).  The abortionist injects a strong salt solution directly into the amniotic sac (fluid surrounding the baby).  The baby breathes and swallows it, is poisoned, struggles, and sometimes convulses. It takes over an hour to kill the baby.  The mother delivers the dead baby in a day or two (sometimes alive).  Why "candy apple" babies?   The corrosive effect of the salt solution often burns and strips away the outer layer of the baby's skin.  This exposes the raw, red, glazed-looking subcutaneous layer of tissue.   The baby's head sometimes looks like a candy apple.  Some have also likened this method to the effect of napalm.  This technique was originally developed in the concentration camps in Nazi Germany.

Prostaglandin Abortions
The hormone produces a violent labor and delivery of whatever size baby the mother carries.  If the baby is old enough to survive the trauma of labor, it may be born alive, but is usually too small to survive. 

Hysterotomy
This method is usually used late in pregnancy and is likened to an "early" Caesarian section.  The mother's abdomen and uterus are surgically opened and the baby is lifted out.  Unfortunately, many of these babies are very much alive when removed.  To kill the babies, some abortionists plunge them into buckets of water or smother them with the placentas.  Still others cut the cord while the baby is still inside the uterus depriving the baby of oxygen.

Several thousand abortions occur everyday--so what if sometimes the providers miss the boat. The woman has already made her protected choice, so it's not her concern at that point.

(the above info from a "pro-life" (sorry) i.e. anti-abortion website but it outlines the choices concisely--I have edited out "pro-life" terminology, etc., where appropriate)

Be educated on this, or the conservatives will have their way via Supreme Court appointments.


Posted by She-Troll 2004-06-23 7:12:29 PM||   2004-06-23 7:12:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Tell me you don't live in this country, please!
You are SCUM, She-Troll (perfect name for you!).
How about the right to choose to birth control?
How about at least getting an abortion--if you must--before the foetus (the term you baby murderers love to use instead of "baby") is viable outside of the womb?
Partial birth abortion is MURDER and it's quite right that the Bush Administration and Conservative judges are moving to end it!
Posted by Jen  2004-06-23 7:18:48 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com]  2004-06-23 7:18:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Hard to tell which side of the argument you're really on, ST. Either way, it wasn't too persuasive if that was your intent.
Posted by Mr. Davis 2004-06-23 7:20:00 PM||   2004-06-23 7:20:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 ima thinking that was sarcasm? itn not very nice to read.
Posted by muck4doo 2004-06-23 7:46:07 PM|| [http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]  2004-06-23 7:46:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Hey, She-Troll from #7! You’ve got to be joking . . . but I know there really are people who think just like what you wrote! You quote from the article, “It is really unfair on the nurses and the parents to see the baby making some sort of movement after birth.” and also that “Guidance issued by the Royal College of Obstetrics and Gynaecologists states that a legal abortion must not be allowed to result in a live birth.” Yuuucccck! and spew!

The unborn aborted are clearly human; we can check their DNA and it shows that they are (at a minimum, at least, genetically) human.

The unborn also are clearly alive; the article above (and your little listing of abortion techniques) easily proves that point by so strongly emphasizing how important it is to the multi-billion dollar abortion industry to kill the unborn.

The only question about the unborn, living humans who are being aborted is whether they have personhood -- which would give the unborns legal protections against: Suction, Dilatation & Curettage (D&C), Dilatation & Evacuation (D&E), D & X (Partial Birth), Salt Poisoning, Prostaglandin Abortions, and/or Hysterotomy. You should know that the genius of our nation’s leaders resolved that sticky question long ago (although this constitutional resolution is completely ignored by the “modern” federal Courts):
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
U.S. Const. amend. XIV, § 1. Persons are persons before they are born or naturalized, and one need not be a citizen to obtain the right to have the government safeguard your life. “Ah,” you might reply, “surely the framers of the XIV Amendment had no concept of abortion and the unborn,” but you’d be wrong. Feminist greats like Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Mattie Brinkerhoff and Sarah Norton all wrote about this problem right about the time the XIV Amendment was being ratified by the states. They called it child murder.
Posted by cingold 2004-06-23 9:21:43 PM||   2004-06-23 9:21:43 PM|| Front Page Top

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