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2004-11-01 Home Front: Politix
Good News: Dhimmis Promise Self-Deportation!
'I don't think I can stay if Bush wins': Some Californians vow move to Canada if Kerry loses
Screen door, etc.
LOS ANGELES - Some left-leaning Californians say they would rather leave the United States -- and go to Canada or elsewhere -- than stay with George W. Bush as president. ''I certainly don't love the climate of Vancouver, but I love the sanity,'' said Steve Crawford, 54, a singer and actor working as a volunteer at the Democratic Party offices in Santa Monica.
A singer and actor is the arbiter of sanity? He works for the Dems and plans to leave if they lose, but don't dare question his patriotism.
He and his wife, Karen, have been investigating selling their home in Pacific Palisades, an upmarket area close to the coast, and moving to Canada.
Global elites of every stripe hate and fear Bush. Why?
''For someone like me, if this happens, I can't in good conscience allow myself to support another Bush government, even benignly. And a lot of other people are saying the same.

''I have a good friend who is adamant he will leave if Bush is re-elected. He's picked two countries and will definitely go to one should this happen.''
Syria and North Korea?
In the heavily Democratic state, famous for its Hollywood- and San Francisco-inspired latte liberal politics, such talk has become increasingly common at Starbucks and at dinner parties.
Another bullseye for the Telegraph, the center of anti-idiotarian resistance in the British media.
At first, the threat was little more than a joke. Now, on the eve of one of the most polarized elections in recent history, some say they really do intend to leave should ''the worst'' occur. There seems little doubt Californians will deliver the state's valuable 55 electoral votes to the Democratic candidate. In a poll on Friday, Mr. Kerry had a seven-point lead statewide, with a 24-point lead in Los Angeles county and a 35-point lead in the San Francisco Bay area.

But fear at what may happen in the key swing states of Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania has led to an escalation in coffee-shop chatter about emigration to Canada, Britain and elsewhere. ''Do you think Great Britain would give us political asylum?'' a woman in Starbucks asked. ''It's just ... I don't think I can stay if Bush wins again.''
Only if you toe the Guardian line, but that should be easy enough.
Mr. Crawford said it would be a difficult decision to move his nine-year-old son from his elementary school. ''But if I feel he's going to be living in an environment that's not safe for him, then I will do it. First and foremost I'm a dad.''
His son is in danger because lib fruitbats like him have turned California into a terror-loving crime-infested lunatic asylum.
Gretchen Witte, 35, from Alhambra, east of Los Angeles, who runs her own Internet business, is making plans to move to London, where she previously lived for eight years, should Mr. Bush win. ''As a woman, the current climate is becoming intolerable. Bush has just appointed a man to the FDA reproductive health panel who believes that women with medical trouble should pray to Jesus for relief. If this is what America is becoming, I cannot live here. The only reason I can sleep at night is the thought that I can leave the country if he wins.''
She prefers to pray to Allah?
Robert Boleyn, a 35-year-old independent consultant from Los Angeles, says he hears people ''all the time' 'saying they will emigrate if Mr. Bush wins. ''But I think it's often more a measure of frustration with the last four years than a real intention to leave,'' he added.

Voluntary exile as a political statement is nothing new. Democrat-supporting celebrities have a habit of making (usually empty) threats to leave should the election not go their way. Robert Redford, a vocal critic of Mr. Bush's policies, was reported this month to have vowed to move to Ireland, where he owns homes near Dublin, if Mr. Bush is re-elected.
Ah, Ireland, where every media-dhimmi is an infallible authority on American shortcomings. The smart ones left in the 1840s, so Redford should feel right at home.

Remember something when you read this: Those of us who might be annoyed at a Kerry victory have nowhere to go. I, for one, will not desert the ship even if it sinks. America is the last best hope for free people.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-11-01 1:28:52 PM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 The sad part is these folks will not leave. And, even if they do (Redford) they will not give up their citizenship or their US wealth. These are only posseur exiles. They want to seem like real exiles in their own eyes but with out the cost. And have you noticed they all want to go to places that speak Engish and have coffee shops. So, 'nuf said'.
Posted by Jim K  2004-11-01 1:40:28 PM||   2004-11-01 1:40:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 That putz Alec Baldwin is still in the US after making the same claim before the 2000 election. What makes anyone think these moonbats are any more trustworthy?

Although, on the face of it, it's just another reason to vote Bush and hope some of these freaks are serious. Bonus!
Posted by Dar  2004-11-01 1:44:16 PM||   2004-11-01 1:44:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 AC, this is music to my ears! I only hope there is a MASS migration of the LLL from California to all far flung corners of the globe. I don’t care where they go, only that they go and leave soon after the election as possible. Sorry Canada and UK but I fear you will bear the brunt of the LLL exodus from our country. In return I think we should offer to allow a number of center-right citizens to immigrate to this country. If they are not enough applications from UK/CAN then open it to anyone. I bet we could fill all those ‘empty’ spots with people who actually love this country and want to be here. Goodbye my LLL brethren! I wish I could say that I will miss you but I won’t!
Posted by Cyber Sarge  2004-11-01 1:46:19 PM||   2004-11-01 1:46:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Don't hold your breath CS. However if the LLL left Caliphornia, housing prices would go down a lot more than 25%.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-11-01 1:49:46 PM||   2004-11-01 1:49:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Mrs Davis, therby helping with affordable housing for all! It's a Win/Win for the State!
Posted by Cyber Sarge  2004-11-01 1:52:13 PM||   2004-11-01 1:52:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 The one reason I could think of to NOT wish for a Bush victory! But then, they'll never go. It's all a load of LLL melodramatic bull.

Why Steyn made the same pledge should Kerry win, I'm not sure. I suppose it's because he's convinced Bush will actually be re-elected.
Posted by Bulldog  2004-11-01 1:54:29 PM||   2004-11-01 1:54:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 It's likely that these whiners will Baldwin out of their promise, but we should be concerned about the possibility that they will go through with it - after all, this will only serve to make the countries to which they move hate us more.
Posted by BH 2004-11-01 2:03:56 PM||   2004-11-01 2:03:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 So go, already! Yeesh.

I wish these overpaid moonbats would shut up and just leave.

In fact, I hope the lot of them move to England. I think they'd be a tad surprised when the burglars broke in, they protected their children with a baseball bat, and they ended up going to jail while the burglar not only went free but sued them. Serve them right.

[No offense, UK Rantburgers. Just the way it is until you take back your country from the leftist nutjobs running it.]
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-11-01 2:05:33 PM||   2004-11-01 2:05:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Ramp this up, expand it by a couple of orders of magnitude. Sign a transatlantic free trade deal in which every US idiotarian who wishes to go into exile shall be given automatic EU citizenship in proportion to every EU scientist, technologist or entrepreneur who desires US citizenship. One for one. No returns, and no tears.
Deal?
Posted by lex 2004-11-01 2:06:40 PM||   2004-11-01 2:06:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I don't see this happening. What foreign states would want these unproductive POS's? State-grant art/film productions aren't big in foreign lands....
Posted by Frank G  2004-11-01 2:07:09 PM||   2004-11-01 2:07:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I have France in mind. The French seem to have a thing for nice-looking American airheads of the Hollywood persuasion. And the French have a very large number fo well-educated scientists and technologists who are greatly frustrated by that country's lack of academic freedom and venture funding.
Posted by lex 2004-11-01 2:11:37 PM||   2004-11-01 2:11:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Don't let the door, etc...
Posted by mojo  2004-11-01 2:18:35 PM||   2004-11-01 2:18:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 What I've read is that Canada and Oz don't take such a hospitable view regarding Americans trying to settle in their countries. Anybody know?
Posted by chicago mike  2004-11-01 2:21:58 PM||   2004-11-01 2:21:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Well, in the Canadian instance we could trade them for lower tariffs on Canuck lumber imports. Like for like, so to speak.
Posted by lex 2004-11-01 2:24:44 PM||   2004-11-01 2:24:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 The only reason I can sleep at night is the thought that I can leave the country if he wins.

Lady, take a pill will ya, you overwrought, self important bitch. My hope is that you and your ditzy friends will leave so I can sleep at night.
Posted by tu3031 2004-11-01 2:25:26 PM||   2004-11-01 2:25:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 I think Oz and Mooseland will let you come if you have a skill. Most of the female LLL started working on their back so maybe that can be called a skill? I doubt the guys are skilled at anything other than repeating words off a page and probably won't find a home in either. Maybe they need a lot of Starbucks servers? They should know how to make a latte.
Posted by Cyber Sarge  2004-11-01 2:29:24 PM||   2004-11-01 2:29:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 The prospect of swapping these jokers for hardworking EU strivers and brainiacs is exciting.

Makes one want to advertise as an "Political Asylum Expert" offering help with emigration and exile issues in Variety or the Village Voice. This could be really fun.
Posted by lex 2004-11-01 2:35:26 PM||   2004-11-01 2:35:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Offer Castro a 3-for-1 trade: we'll give him three LLLs for every dissident.

Oh, okay Fidel, 4 to 1, but only 'cause we feel sorry for you.
Posted by Mike  2004-11-01 2:45:24 PM||   2004-11-01 2:45:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Californians going to Canada, thats funny! Liquer stores are closed more often than open, you can buy booze in the Golden State 24/7 by god. Thats a big deal too. And as for the SoCal types, please it would take like one week of gray skies and histeria would set in. Nope, all bluster.
Posted by Lucky 2004-11-01 3:07:29 PM||   2004-11-01 3:07:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 I know these guys are just whining but if they really did leave, man, think just how much that could benefit the gene pool here.
Posted by Jarhead 2004-11-01 3:12:09 PM||   2004-11-01 3:12:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Implied that it would be a terrible loss if they left. YA right pack your bags fuckwits and get OUT!
Posted by Bill Nelson 2004-11-01 3:12:49 PM||   2004-11-01 3:12:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 A lot of this "Bush hating" is a red herring. For some of these people, their hatred has nothing to do with Bush. THEY HATE AMERICA!!! End of story.

These people cannot come out and say they hate America because they are gutless. I disagree with a lot of things that Bush is doing. But, I don't hate him. I can't stand the site of these anti-American pigs. It makes my blood boil. I love this country and Israel. The right to disagree with anyone is a right and a privelege, thats why freedom loving countries must be preserved at all/any cost.

When you have ideological bomb throwers like Chris Heinz calling Bush a "coke head" and that the Israeli Lobby is too strong, they are being disenginous to the GREATEST country in the world. So what if Bush did cocaine and drank heavy, instead of bashing him people should commend him for turning his life around. The last thing I need is a unforgiving closet druggie (i.e. designer drugs) calling someone a "coke head"

Chris Heinz sez, "the U.S. treats Israel like the 51st state and its wrong". Damn straight Israel is our 51st state and India could be our 52nd state. If you got a problem with that, LEAVE NOW!!! If the stupid morons like Chris don't like it, go and live with Arafarrrt in sissy France.
Posted by Poison Reverse 2004-11-01 3:18:56 PM||   2004-11-01 3:18:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Don't let the door hit ya in the ass.
Posted by JerseyMike 2004-11-01 3:29:38 PM||   2004-11-01 3:29:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 I got a Romanian and a Vietnamese guy working with me. I let them read this and they laughed and wanted to know how these idiots would deal with 4 years of Caucesceau or 4 years of Ho Chi Mihn? No Starbucks either...
Posted by tu3031 2004-11-01 3:35:30 PM||   2004-11-01 3:35:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 of course even if they left for Canada they would have to come back for their botox

also, they would find taxes are actually higher in Canada and there is no schedule A itemization for mortgage

also, I doubt many of the hollywood types could actually understand the metric system
Posted by mhw 2004-11-01 3:59:04 PM||   2004-11-01 3:59:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 I give high marks to the following turnof the phrase:

Don't let the door hit ya,
where the good Lord split ya!

Even gets a 5 yard penalty for the religious reference.

And one other note... Alec Baldwin claims to have never said such a thing... that it was his nutcase wife who did in the midst of their ugly divorce. He is still a twit, but I have corrected his account.
Posted by Capsu78 2004-11-01 4:06:49 PM||   2004-11-01 4:06:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 I say small farking loss of these parasites move out. Hope not to the UK - they (the UK) are our ally and I would not wish these elitist on anyone.

But they wont. When they find that they cannot enslave hire an illegal alien for next to nothing to keep their yards, watch their spoiled spawn and do their cooking and dishes they will change their minds.

And they sure won't go to the workers paradise of N. Korea or Vietnam either.

Think we can get them to sign a binding contract?
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-11-01 4:12:49 PM||   2004-11-01 4:12:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 Fine if they leave. The country will slowly get California back from the aliens. These LLL must realize that if they give up their California residency that they forever become inelligable for any benefits from the proposed $3 BILLION state stem cell research initiative, if it passes. Bwahahaha!
Posted by Alaska Paul  2004-11-01 4:17:06 PM||   2004-11-01 4:17:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 "Damn straight Israel is our 51st state and India could be our 52nd state."


Israel is NOT our 51st State and never will be. Also, as an American married to an Indian National, I can assure you that the Indians have absolutely no interest in being an American state.

Some Indians migrate here and are usually very productive, but they tend to keep to themselves until about the 3rd generation American born.

The vast majority of Indians views vis-a-vis America and Americans is one of casual disinterest.

-AR
Posted by Analog Roam 2004-11-01 4:39:29 PM||   2004-11-01 4:39:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 Moose Don't come back! Pie In Face
Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-01 4:57:00 PM||   2004-11-01 4:57:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 AR,

Too late, Israel is already our 51st state. The Orthodox Jews and true (those who haven't fallen for the Replacement Theory trick)Christians will make sure it stays that way.

But anyway, I was talking about a metaphorical 51st and 52nd state in the realm of economic, democratic, and military cooperation.

I strongly disagree your assessment of India. The only reason India and the U.S does not have a better relationship is because the U.S. in the past(Nixon-Kissinger), chose to be better friends with Paki's. So India had built a relationship with Russia. India cannot afford a unstoppable China and Russia is in bed with the Mullas. So, India has no choice but to be friends with Israel and the U.S. Hence, 51st and 52nd state.

>>>>>Moving to the present and future, India has built a powerful relationship with Israel. The U.S has seen the error of their ways and now has built a economic and military alliance with India.

As the saying goes, Out with the old and in with the new.
Posted by Poison Reverse 2004-11-01 5:02:56 PM||   2004-11-01 5:02:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#32 Mark ya got good stuff... but jeezzzz... I've got smileycentral blocked on every hosts list I can lay my hands on
Posted by Shipman 2004-11-01 5:20:07 PM||   2004-11-01 5:20:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#33 #23 Jersey Mike: "Don't let the door hit ya in the ass."

No, no, no, Mike. How many time do I have to tell you?

It's "Don't let the door hit ya in the ass - brain damage is a recordable injury."

It's a safety thing. ;-p
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-11-01 5:21:34 PM||   2004-11-01 5:21:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#34 I hear France is real nice this time of year. :-)
Posted by A Jackson 2004-11-01 8:33:06 PM||   2004-11-01 8:33:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#35 ...Canada and Oz don't take such a hospitable view regarding Americans trying to settle in their countries. Anybody know?

There are about 112,000 Americans living in Ontario. Don't know about the other provinces, and no stats on the Ozzies.

Yeah I'm sure they'll love it in Canada. Two months of summer and 50% of your income goes to pay for...well, it's just gets taken away.
Posted by Rafael 2004-11-01 9:10:56 PM||   2004-11-01 9:10:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#36 I would have to question the psychological health of someone who can't sleep at night over the re-election of Bush, an event that would probably not have the slightest effect on her personal life; in contrast to the people of Iraq, who might well have good reason to lose sleep over the possible election of Kerry.

I may be encroaching on conspiracy theory territory here, but I think the whole Bush-hatred thing is mostly drummed up by left-wing operatives as a way of motivating and expanding the base, in much the same way that Soviet operatives drummed up the nuclear disarmament movement back in the cold war.
Posted by V is for Victory 2004-11-01 10:13:54 PM||   2004-11-01 10:13:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#37 Arnold is pretty well off. Maybe we can get him to charter a barge to Canada?
Posted by Beau 2004-11-01 10:21:49 PM||   2004-11-01 10:21:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#38 This is a classic thread methinks.
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