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2005-01-11 Iraq-Jordan

Iraqi Rebels Grow Strong in Saddam's Old Haunts

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Posted by Fred 2005-01-11 00:00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Time to put these places down.

Hard cordons. Put up miles of jersey barriers, concertina and tanglefoot - and possibly minefields - facing INWARD in a perimeter around these places. Create hard checkpoints in and out of these Sunni cities. If they want to make thier cities into shitholes, let them. But keep them bottled up there to deal with the consequences. Nothing in, nothing out, other than inspected food trucks.

Any foreigners found will be deported if found with valid ID no weapons. If found with weapons or evidence of terrorist training (forged IDs etc) they will be summarily executed. On the spot. Locals found with weapons/IED materiels or captured while fighting will be put in prison camps in Kurdish areas, under Kurdish guard, and their adult family members [in the Arab sense of the word: father, brothers, sons] will be expelled and jailed with them. This woudl only apply to the "tribal" cheifs, whose entire family (males of legal age) should be placed "at risk" for acts committed by each other.

Anyone wishing to leave voluntarily has to go to a 30 day detention center for vetting against terror links, then will be relocated to a Kurd or Shia part of the country at a refugee camp there, where Kurdish and Shia security will be watching them.

The Baathists must have the consequences driven home to them - and so does the population that supports these thugs.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-11 9:50:08 AM|| 2005-01-11 9:50:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 As an adjunct, there should be Iraqi "hit squads" whose only mission is to find and kill the "leadership" targets. And they should use "Russian" methods if neccesary. Send Al Dhouri the ear of one of his sons, then start sending fingers of his wife or mother. He will get the message that his sons and wife and mom are at risk now, just the way he is putting the sons and daughters and moms of normal Iraqis at risk.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-11 9:53:39 AM|| 2005-01-11 9:53:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Locals found with weapons/IED materiels or captured while fighting will be put in prison camps in Kurdish areas, under Kurdish guard,..

A very sensible solution. And compensation to the Kurds for keeping those home-grown thugs under lock and key could be taken from oil revenues, and wouldn't cost the U.S. a penny.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-01-11 10:18:27 AM|| 2005-01-11 10:18:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Why waste time and money guarding and feeding them?

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-11 10:24:28 AM|| 2005-01-11 10:24:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 then start sending fingers of his wife or mother.

purposely harming the innocent to get at the guilty means the devil will have to be paid. Let's just kill the bad guys and be done with it.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-11 10:43:47 AM|| 2005-01-11 10:43:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 purposely harming the innocent to get at the guilty means the devil will have to be paid.

Why worry about it? It's not as if WE would be doing that, since OS' proposal is for Iraqi hit squads, who are not likely to have any such reservations, to be carrying this out.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-01-11 11:59:40 AM|| 2005-01-11 11:59:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 it's just wrong.

Posted by 2b 2005-01-11 12:09:17 PM|| 2005-01-11 12:09:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 What's so wrong about it? If it's not Americans doing it, then it can't be wrong. That's pretty much how things have been portrayed so far, so if the media and critics want to play that game, then fine, let's play that way and get someone else to do real, honest-to-goodness dirty work.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-01-11 1:27:47 PM|| 2005-01-11 1:27:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 1. We need to bring back the Phoenix Program. (Sorry about the link. I couldn't find an unbiased source on the web. Note, however that in the last paragraph, after calling the program a failure, the author quotes a Vietnamese official admitting that Phoenix wiped out up to 95% of the VC leadership in some provinces.)

2. Do what a lot of the folks here have been calling for: Use Shias and Kurds to patrol the Sunni Arab areas. As a technique, it is historically proven to work. The British did it for 200 years in India with great results. Yeah, it'll piss off a lot of Sunnis, but what have we got to lose? They hate us already. I don't think that any Sunni/Arab government really has the balls to act.

Posted by 11A5S 2005-01-11 4:29:24 PM|| 2005-01-11 4:29:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Time to put these places down.

Hard cordons. Put up miles of jersey barriers, concertina and tanglefoot - and possibly minefields - facing INWARD in a perimeter around these places. Create hard checkpoints in and out of these Sunni cities. If they want to make thier cities into shitholes, let them. But keep them bottled up there to deal with the consequences. Nothing in, nothing out, other than inspected food trucks.

Any foreigners found will be deported if found with valid ID no weapons. If found with weapons or evidence of terrorist training (forged IDs etc) they will be summarily executed. On the spot. Locals found with weapons/IED materiels or captured while fighting will be put in prison camps in Kurdish areas, under Kurdish guard, and their adult family members [in the Arab sense of the word: father, brothers, sons] will be expelled and jailed with them. This woudl only apply to the "tribal" cheifs, whose entire family (males of legal age) should be placed "at risk" for acts committed by each other.

Anyone wishing to leave voluntarily has to go to a 30 day detention center for vetting against terror links, then will be relocated to a Kurd or Shia part of the country at a refugee camp there, where Kurdish and Shia security will be watching them.

The Baathists must have the consequences driven home to them - and so does the population that supports these thugs.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-11 9:50:08 AM|| 2005-01-11 9:50:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 As an adjunct, there should be Iraqi "hit squads" whose only mission is to find and kill the "leadership" targets. And they should use "Russian" methods if neccesary. Send Al Dhouri the ear of one of his sons, then start sending fingers of his wife or mother. He will get the message that his sons and wife and mom are at risk now, just the way he is putting the sons and daughters and moms of normal Iraqis at risk.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-11 9:53:39 AM|| 2005-01-11 9:53:39 AM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-11 9:50:08 AM|| 2005-01-11 9:50:08 AM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-11 9:53:39 AM|| 2005-01-11 9:53:39 AM|| Front Page Top

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