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2005-02-08 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Kay warns US not to repeat Iraq mistakes in Iran

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Posted by Fred 2005-02-08 00:00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "short of military action"

I think I see the flaw in your thinking, Dave.

Posted by .com 2005-02-08 12:06:53 AM|| 2005-02-08 12:06:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Boy, it looks like Kay's meltdown last year wasn't a fluke. He exhibited a completely upside-down misunderstanding of the relationship between reliable WMD intelligence and pre-emption (the lack of the former drives, not limits, the latter). Now he falls off several cliffs: (1) nice slimy and unwarranted dig at US "honesty" in assessing life-and-death national security decisions -- and he knows damn well there was no dishonesty in the Iraq round, as of course all investigations have shown (2) implying he or any other government has the ability to "craft" magical non-military measures to stop a nuke program in a recalcitrant ruthless and rich dictatorship.

He of course also completely misstates the basic question (at least this passage seems to leave little chance he addresses it correctly): it's nearly impossible to accurately assess nuclear status of a state like Iran, but it's easy to see that eventually they can easily go nuclear if they try.

You had your moment in the early 90s, Dave. Go away and STFU. You look like a fool -- as does anyone preening for the brain-dead infantile Beltway second-guessing industry.

Posted by Verlaine in Iraq 2005-02-08 1:08:10 AM|| 2005-02-08 1:08:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Hmmm. Excellent points, V-i-Iraq! I wonder if a surreptitious peek at his financials would reveal a current or recently addressed need for funds. I'd hate to believe it, but the Kool Aid is clearly in evidence, as you point out. The Kool Aid Krowd has some deep-pocketed and increasingly desperate wankers who wouldn't hesitate to subvert someone like Kay. Hell, they're probably willing to make alliances of convenience with absolutely anyone...

Posted by .com 2005-02-08 1:29:22 AM|| 2005-02-08 1:29:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 this is a man tortured by his own failure at predicting iraqi wmd's for years and being bereft because--ta da--he couldn't find them--hint/ speznatz crews to syria duvid--what a dhimmi--you'd think living in arab lands for as long as he did would teach him about their thought processes and paronoidal need for secrecy culture--what a colossal nincompoop he is

Posted by SON OF TOLUI 2005-02-08 3:04:46 AM|| 2005-02-08 3:04:46 AM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by dog health information TROLL 2005-02-08 3:17:20 AM|| 2005-02-08 3:17:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Moron in Aisle 5. Bring the pooper-scooper.

Posted by .com 2005-02-08 4:30:23 AM|| 2005-02-08 4:30:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Perhaps Mr. Kay will explain to us why Iran wants ballistic missles that can reach the heart of Europe?

Posted by Mark Z. 2005-02-08 6:22:04 AM|| 2005-02-08 6:22:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Not just ballistic missiles. Iran recently received 3000km range (if fitted with a 200 kiloton ex-Soviet warhead) air launched cruise missiles from Ukraine.

Posted by ed 2005-02-08 6:26:08 AM|| 2005-02-08 6:26:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 .com: 'David Kay' does sound eerily similar to 'on the pay'.

Posted by Bulldog 2005-02-08 6:28:44 AM|| 2005-02-08 6:28:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I dunno, Bulldog. I think the Galloway defense might apply for him. He doesn't need a bribe to work against America's interests; he'll do it for free.

Posted by jackal 2005-02-08 8:26:19 AM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-02-08 8:26:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Bulldog: .com: 'David Kay' does sound eerily similar to 'on the pay'.

I think it's an ideological thing, just as it is with the media. Why do the media distort and lie? Because they can - it's great when you get paid while disseminating your ideology.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-02-08 11:34:08 AM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-02-08 11:34:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 I have faith the US has learned it lesson and will dig deeper and have better evidence, then we can bomb the shit out of the Ayatollahs

Posted by Elmaper Chinenter1844 2005-02-08 1:02:04 PM|| 2005-02-08 1:02:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Kay warns US not to repeat Iraq mistakes in Iran

I never thought I'd say it, but he's right. Don't repeat Iraq. Imitate, mutatis mutandis, Clinton on Serbia.

Posted by gromgorru 2005-02-08 1:28:16 PM|| 2005-02-08 1:28:16 PM|| Front Page Top

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