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2005-03-04 China-Japan-Koreas

Chinese Prepare for Operations Against Korea

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Posted by Steve 2005-03-04 11:03:20 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 This could also be a prelude to a Chinese de-nuclearization invasion of North Korea. Kim Jong-Il has defied Beijing several times of late, and I'm sure the thought has crossed their mind that either a new puppet regime is in order, or better yet, a unified Korea (under SK rule) indebted to China, a very friendly ally and trading partner, pumping billions of dollars into the Chinese economy every year. As long as they remained a free, separate country, I doubt the US would have any grave reservations to this.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-03-04 11:25:52 AM|| 2005-03-04 11:25:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 The economic cost to South Korea of unification would be tremendous. I've argued in another forum that Germany's woes at this time are largely do to reunification. And East Germany wasn't serving grass for supper.

I believe a Chinese move into the North would be in support of a coup, not reunification. Change the government and the attitude, and foreign aid becomes a possibility.

Posted by Chuck Simmins 2005-03-04 11:33:11 AM|| [http://blog.simmins.org] 2005-03-04 11:33:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Looks like the PRC is doing rubbish removal on that vacant lot behind thier back fence...

"But you don't understand! It is my destiny to someday rule the world! However I will stay away from Bakersfield, America. It seems that there are monkeys who eat family jewels there. That is not good."

Posted by BigEd 2005-03-04 11:34:10 AM|| 2005-03-04 11:34:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Hey, they have such a bad slum lord now, I'd have no problem with giving the neighbor the title for free :-) But...then...I'm not Korean.

Good comment moose. I was hoping they weren't just mobilizing to keep the refugees out.

Posted by 2b 2005-03-04 11:35:49 AM|| 2005-03-04 11:35:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 The economic cost to South Korea of unification would be tremendous. Thus removing a compeditor to Chinese business.

Posted by Steve 2005-03-04 11:44:16 AM|| 2005-03-04 11:44:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Reunification of Germany cost so much because the Germans helped out all of Eastern Europe at the same time, and they gave very generous values to East German currency. There is no reason South Korea can't learn from that lesson.

I also think it would be nearly impossible for South Korea to turn their back on a peaceful reunification despite the massive costs.

Lastly that picture posted by BigEd is hysterical.

Posted by rjschwarz 2005-03-04 12:00:15 PM|| [http://rjschwarz] 2005-03-04 12:00:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Watching the performance of the South Koreans over the last decade does not lead me to believe that they have learned anything from the German experience, either good or bad. They'll fight for reunification for irrational reasons and handle it much differently.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-03-04 12:14:17 PM|| 2005-03-04 12:14:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 You folks obviously haven't read yesterday's Los Angeles Times. If you HAD you would know that North Korea is a PARADISE! Their "objective" reporter's story was PAGE ONE, and included these "insights":

"There is love...there is charity...People marry....They make children. People are just trying to live a normal life."

You guys ALMOST had me convinced North Korea was a nasty place. Luckily the LA Times has cleared this all up for me, and now my family and I are looking forward to our vacation at Club Med Ponyang.

Posted by Justrand 2005-03-04 12:39:17 PM|| 2005-03-04 12:39:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Justrand - practice up by developing a taste for wheatgrass. Apparently the NK's are real health nuts

Posted by Frank G 2005-03-04 12:47:27 PM|| 2005-03-04 12:47:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I don't think there would be a reunification if China invades. Read something recently that said China claims part of Korea was historically theirs. Maybe Pyongyang is the 3rd holiest spot in Maoism or something.

Posted by BH 2005-03-04 2:26:10 PM|| 2005-03-04 2:26:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Justrand, I can't think of a better weight loss program.

Posted by Matt 2005-03-04 2:28:28 PM|| 2005-03-04 2:28:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 My guess is that if China invades they would destroy the nuclear weapons program and install a puppet government that would prepare the road for unification over a decade or so. That way they become close friends with South Korea and the unified Korea is not armed with Nuclear weapons.

Posted by rjschwarz 2005-03-04 5:01:27 PM|| [http://rjschwarz] 2005-03-04 5:01:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 I like the strategy RJ. Make a nice Finnish state. Makes good sense all around.

Posted by Shipman 2005-03-04 7:35:43 PM|| 2005-03-04 7:35:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Actually, there is another possiblity. How about straight annexation? Then internal movement controls could be instituted full force, while bringing the N. Koreans up to the living standard of the Chinese peasant, which is unimaginably better than they have now.

Posted by Brian H 2005-03-04 8:45:07 PM|| 2005-03-04 8:45:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 NK, like the old Warsaw Pact with the USSR, doesn't make a move without China's knowledge or consent, so any Chicom move to denuke NK would be a Potemkin-style "invasion" against itself. Something(s) else is goin on.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2005-03-04 9:34:53 PM|| [http://n/a] 2005-03-04 9:34:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 It's still going on.

Posted by Holly 2005-03-04 9:39:28 PM|| 2005-03-04 9:39:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Its makes sense (from a western point of view) that the Chinese do not want trouble in the back yard while things are looking up for them economically. NK rattling nuclear sabers will push the Japanese and South Koreans into the nuclear arena - launching a nuclear arms race in the far east that China does not want.

It does not make sense (from a western point of view) to invade Taiwan. Most of the logistics tail seems to be pointed toward Taiwan though. Why would China put itself into a strategic confrontation with the US? While we may be tied up tactically in the ME, the Navy and AF are rested and ready. Wargaming it from the Chinese point of view - they would need assistance from Iran (staging a demonstration in the Gulf - threatening our supply lines into Iraq and SA,KU oil) which could draw off a sizable portion of our strategic assets to protect our LOC. NK made a similar arrangement with Iran back in 1993/94. A study of Sun Tzu may be in order - the Chinese intentions are not clear at this time.

Posted by JP 2005-03-04 10:58:46 PM|| 2005-03-04 10:58:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 There's another possibility - China is warning Uncle Sam not to attack North Korea. The last time Chinese troops massed along the Yalu River, it was to attempt to push General Walton Walker's 8th Army off the Korean peninsula. China has its goals, we have ours. Don't assume that they overlap much.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-03-04 11:23:58 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-03-04 11:23:58 PM|| Front Page Top

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