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Dems refuse to open ethics Committee to protect their own

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Posted by Cyber Sarge 2005-04-22 8:37:13 AM|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Too bad the Pubs lack a spine....

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-04-22 9:11:51 AM|| 2005-04-22 9:11:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 we'll see - Bush pushed and got the Sen Reps to push two judges out of committee for a floor vote. The Dems are said to be seeking a deal, which they'd avoid if they had the stones to filibuster. Could be the turning point. I'd still rather see a kick-ass Sen majority leader

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-22 9:37:16 AM|| 2005-04-22 9:37:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 DC pols can't seem to understand that most of us common folk detest this bs and those who perpetuate it. If they have accusations that are founded, let us know and deal with it all regardless of party affiliation. Let them all face the questions raised and stand or fall on their own answers and merit or lack thereof. Novel idea that one is I suppose. As it stands, the conduct of the committee looks like a pack of sickly, greedy gut racoons having it out at an overturned garbage can.

Posted by Tkat 2005-04-22 9:44:44 AM|| 2005-04-22 9:44:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Bush pushed and got the Sen Reps to push two judges out of committee for a floor vote.

That's a spine? He needs to do a lot more before I'd believe that. In addition, his party needs to chip in with their own efforts; they haven't been sterling examples of leadership as of late.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-04-22 10:47:26 AM|| 2005-04-22 10:47:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Frank G - Is there anyone in the GOP Senate Caucus that even 'dents ass'? Being from Illinois, I don't have one to offer. (Peter Fitzgerald was a disappointment to me.)

Posted by eLarson 2005-04-22 1:48:36 PM|| [http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2005-04-22 1:48:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 When the politics and circumstances are right (read: ample ass coverage), then you see some of them step up. Example Sen Coleman on UNSCAM.

The problem is the same for every elected officeholder - they're always looking ahead to the next election and won't make a move without putting a finger in the wind first.

It's called political reality. It has ALWAYS been so - and always will be.

But don't let that stop you from blaming Bush for everything where you don't get immediate gratification. Seems to make perfect sense to those who never think shit through - and have zero memory for what has been accomplished in spite of this political reality thingy.

"Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls would scarcely get your feet wet."
-Deteriorata

Posted by .com 2005-04-22 1:58:06 PM|| 2005-04-22 1:58:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 not as much as I'd like, but Kyl's got a spine

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-22 2:05:38 PM|| 2005-04-22 2:05:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Sounds something close to "opportunism."

Posted by Tkat 2005-04-22 3:51:55 PM|| 2005-04-22 3:51:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Hmmm. Seems to have a hell of a lot of spine to me. Afghanistan, Iraq, pushing through a total revamping of our Intelligence agencies and much more. You have to pick your fights and where you will spend your political capital. As irrelevant as the UN has become, spending too much capital on this might be a waste, no matter how nice it might be to see Bolton sent there.

That the Office of the President can't force Congress a separate part of the government into doing something is designed into the political system. Even if you don't like it BAR, it is a good thing. Keeps assholes like LBJ or some other assclown running the country off a cliff. Even when the President and Congress are the same party this separation of powers is a good thing. I learned that in High School Civics.

Saying Bush has no spine is total bull shit and totally untrue. Sounds like some craptard DU or MoveOn meme.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-04-22 4:15:21 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-04-22 4:15:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 The problem is the same for every elected officeholder - they're always looking ahead to the next election and won't make a move without putting a finger in the wind first. It's called political reality.

That's a shame. Seems to me that if someone believes in something, they should at least have the balls to stick up for it. Politicians might be thought of better as a result.

That the Office of the President can't force Congress a separate part of the government into doing something is designed into the political system.

He and members of his party don't have to force Congress into doing something; a little spirited defense of his appointees or their programs that are under constant attacks from leftists would be sufficient. There hasn't been enough of that.

Bloggers have so far been doing mosty of that sort of heavy lifting. But they can't carry the entire load; elected officials need to be doing some of this sort of thing also.

Saying Bush has no spine is total bull shit and totally untrue.

Domestically, that's how it looks. And then where he does display some determination, it's with regard to his persistence in pushing amnesty for mojados, something that flies in the face of logic, reason, and fairness.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-04-22 5:48:39 PM|| 2005-04-22 5:48:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 That's why I call bull shit BAR, because it is bull shit.

Bush has a hell of a lot more spine than most of the web loggers out there. Just because they and you don't agree with his efforts or the why he goes about things doesn't make it so. I don't agree with Bush on many things but he sure as hell isn't spineless.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-04-22 5:59:39 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-04-22 5:59:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Apparently, B-a-R doesn't give credit where due, just blame. Lots of blame. Issuing blame must be like an antacid, so many are into it. Of course, all they're doing is anonymously posting their accumulated bile. Not much danger in that.

The funny thing is that giving credit and blame where due is only acknowledging reality. It's no skin off anyone's ass to do it. The inability to keep reality in mind and give credit implies other things, no?

You typed alot there, B-a-R, yet I see nothing that makes your bitching more compelling than Bush's actual record of accomplishment.

Bullshit is right on the money.

Posted by .com 2005-04-22 6:13:23 PM|| 2005-04-22 6:13:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 SPOD - agreed, but note the question (at least as I read it) is stones on the Senate Republican side, not W

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-22 6:14:19 PM|| 2005-04-22 6:14:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Regards the article content and what can be done about it, you're right, Frank. B-a-R blamed it on Bush's lack of a spine in #4. An anonymous poster in a blog blaming Bush for not creating the reality he wants, then saying that Bush has no spine. Pretty fucking funny shit, I'd say.

Posted by .com 2005-04-22 6:19:34 PM|| 2005-04-22 6:19:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 I've got obvious issues on the border with W, other than that, what he says is what he does. I like that

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-22 6:27:54 PM|| 2005-04-22 6:27:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 And I agree 100% with what appears to be inaction on immigration. Since I'm not privy to what goes on in private, that's probably not an accurate assessment. I'd bet they are all fully aware of the storm going on out here. As I mentioned before, when he did try to offer a transition program, he was shot down. Presuming there is a stalemate is a fair charge to lay at the feet of all of them, all 537, from Bush to the greenest congressman.

Posted by .com 2005-04-22 6:36:03 PM|| 2005-04-22 6:36:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 I'd agree that the blame goes all around and extends back to the end of the bracero program

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-22 6:44:32 PM|| 2005-04-22 6:44:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 B-a-R blamed it on Bush's lack of a spine in #4.

Well, the quote was: Bush pushed and got the Sen Reps to push two judges out of committee for a floor vote.

Just two? Hell, the GOP now has control and only two have gone to a floor vote, and only after the President pushed? I seem to remember that Priscilla Owen and Janice Rogers Brown have been waiting also. There's others, are there not? They should get their day too, but when is that going to be?

The President is the top honcho, and he should lead.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-04-22 11:46:44 PM|| 2005-04-22 11:46:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 I'm sure, once word reaches him that B-a-R wants action, you'll get it. He has nothing on his plate except whatever thingy puts your shorts in a bunch. And, of course, what you happen to read or hear or see is all there is to it. A team of agents should be assigned to follow you around and take notes.

When will you start giving credit where due?

You're like Zenster, all blame, all the time, all achievements forgotten, just the lame refrain:
What have you done for me lately?

Posted by .com 2005-04-23 12:02:02 AM|| 2005-04-23 12:02:02 AM|| Front Page Top

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