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2005-04-24 Home Front: WoT
10 years after Oklahoma City, the militia movement is dead
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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-04-24 12:24:36 AM|| || Front Page|| [11139 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Too bad law enforcement isn't interested in illegal aliens who are "causing crimes and causing problems", hmmm?

In spite of what this article intimates, I remain a loyal member of a well-regulated militia.
Posted by Quana  2005-04-24 2:19:36 PM||   2005-04-24 2:19:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > § 311. Militia: composition and classes

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

Maybe 'unorganized' but still on call.
Posted by Grising Shereling2932 2005-04-24 3:10:58 PM||   2005-04-24 3:10:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Message to author. You have no clue.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-04-24 3:25:18 PM||   2005-04-24 3:25:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 BTW Southern Poverty Law center is a front for a communist organization that only has the destruction of the US Constitution and Christianity as it's goal. It has little to do with ending real poverty or protecting the poor from abuse from the legal system. The have been helpful in getting rid of some KKKers and Proto and Neo-Nazi groups but the government is better suited to deal with such scum.

Person belonging to or supporting or even quoting the members of the Southern Poverty Law center should be treated like on treats venomous snakes in the wild, go around them if you can but don't ignore them or trust them.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-04-24 3:59:57 PM||   2005-04-24 3:59:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 That's all well and good.
Stop the militia crap, it's insane and a dead cold loser of an issue. Anyone got a nice picture of him/herself with a bag over the head?
Posted by Shipman 2005-04-24 4:10:48 PM||   2005-04-24 4:10:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I assume all the militias fight on the same side. The LoneStar Love Patrol and the California Pink Bear Recon have no conflict.

It's all dress up and play grown up.
Posted by Shipman 2005-04-24 4:14:43 PM||   2005-04-24 4:14:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 The un-organized milita is alve and well.

The locals who wanted to have an "organized" milita here were refered to as the Moron Milita (This towns name was originally Moron.) We tried to convince them that T-Shirts with a Bulls-Eye on them would be a good choice of uniform. Them being the first SOBs that would "get it" if the shit ever hit the fan. They were to a person, fucktards of the first water.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-04-24 4:29:23 PM||   2005-04-24 4:29:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 There may be some mixed messages and crosstalk at work, here.

The only "militia" I respect are represented by the individuals who have banded together to protect their rights - and ours - and call themselves the Minutemen.

The ones running around in the Idaho forest with White Supremacy as their goal or pretending to give a shit about the Constitution by breaking the law do not serve anyone but the power-seekers who run them. Real American patriots are individuals first and always, not skinheads or haters or racists or freaks filled with fantasy bullshit who need to belong to some tough-talking asshat group because they're dysfunctional and have no identity without it.

When we are truly threatened, such as on our borders, the American individual stands up - just as the citizen-soldiers in our National Guard. Then, when the danger has passed or the politicians buy a clue and do their sworn Constitutional duty for a goddamned change, they disperse and return to their homes peaceably.

My $0.02.
Posted by .com 2005-04-24 4:34:10 PM||   2005-04-24 4:34:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Militias were the bete noir of the Clintonista and Janet Reno era, justifying their gun-grabbing nanny state (helllooo Elian!). They played it masterfully. Today's Minutemen are an American Neighborhood Watch and that's to be respected. Notice that the only criticism from the Border Patrol comes from bureaucrats and BP union spokesmen....
Posted by Frank G  2005-04-24 4:37:16 PM||   2005-04-24 4:37:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I actually do belong to a group that one could define as a militia, The Tennessee Defense Force that has as it's leader the Governer. We are nothing like what is portrayed on the news shows or whats in this article.
Posted by Deacon Blues  2005-04-24 6:13:36 PM||   2005-04-24 6:13:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Okay, okay, call it the Civil Air Patrol without planes.

I expect you're part of a mounted sherrif's posse Deacon? Got one of those here too.... but it's under the control of an elected official, the sherrif. Not Col JumpedOutOfAPlane Intheday.
Posted by Shipman 2005-04-24 6:18:09 PM||   2005-04-24 6:18:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Today, anti-immigration vigilantes on the U.S.-Mexico border,..

Oh puuuuhlease.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-04-24 8:18:46 PM||   2005-04-24 8:18:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Yeah, Deacon...same here. In this case, "well-regulated militia = State Guard".
Posted by Quana  2005-04-24 8:22:44 PM||   2005-04-24 8:22:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 wrong side of the spectrum. Today it's the left that's into black-helicopter crackpot conspiracymongering. The FBI should be scrutinizing Kos and DU.
Posted by thibaud (aka lex) 2005-04-24 9:05:57 PM||   2005-04-24 9:05:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#15  "well-regulated militia = State Guard".
I see you have bought into the Soros funded anti-firearm BS. The truth is ALL males between 17 and 45, Regulating a firearm is being able to hit what you are intending to.

I repeat since you can't read:
TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > § 311. Militia: composition and classes (a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. (b) The classes of the militia are— (1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and (2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-04-24 9:18:52 PM||   2005-04-24 9:18:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 There is absolutely no reason for you to be rude, SPoD. I understand completely and I've not bought into any Soros-funded anything. Our State Code defines our State Guard as a 'well-regulated militia'.

And I'm not male.
Posted by Quana  2005-04-24 9:26:30 PM||   2005-04-24 9:26:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Your state code is not Federal law. Federal law and the constutition define the US Milita. Your sex is not relevant. What you wrote most certainly is from a Soros funded orginazation that even has had to change it's name it because it became so discredited. You may research whom funded the group that propagated that thought on your own.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-04-24 9:32:27 PM||   2005-04-24 9:32:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 SPoD, on account of your repeating that part about 'males between 17 and 45' I thought you meant that gender was relevant. So sorry. I was trying to make a little joke. Guess that didn't work too well, huh? I dislike using Fred's bandwidth for meaningless argument, so this is the last post on this subject I plan to make.

Please read what I wrote again. I never mentioned anything about a US militia nor did I mention anything about Federal law. I mentioned a 'well-regulated militia' which, in these parts, is a light-hearted synonym for our State Guard and was such long before nanny-state gun-grabbers such as Kennedy-Kerry-Soros arrived on the scene. (Too many hyphens?)

Other than that, I have no idea what you are talking about. But please don't feel obligated to enlighten me as I really don't give a flying rat's ass.

I'll let you have the last word. :)
Posted by Quana  2005-04-24 10:15:14 PM||   2005-04-24 10:15:14 PM|| Front Page Top

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