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2005-05-05 Home Front: WoT

Gen. Janis Karpinski Demoted over Abu Ghraib

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Posted by GK 2005-05-05 20:30|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Demoted? Does that mean she can only go on B-list shows to accuse her superiors for her f*&k-ups?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-05-05 20:39|| 2005-05-05 20:39|| Front Page Top

#2 The Army has screwed this up. First Lynndie can't cop a plea becasue she's innocent and now Karpinski gets a demotion? Only the guys go to the slammer?

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-05-05 20:56|| 2005-05-05 20:56|| Front Page Top

#3 well, it seems Graner was the ''mastermind''.... to use the term very loosely....

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-05-05 21:01|| 2005-05-05 21:01|| Front Page Top

#4 Remember, nearly all of the photos were taken in one night, to celebrate Lynndie's 21st birthday. One glorious, out of control evening...

Yay for the demotion, but, yeah, Jan shoulda gotten a general court. Her career is over.

Posted by Chuck Simmins">Chuck Simmins 2005-05-05 21:23|| http://blog.simmins.org]">[http://blog.simmins.org] 2005-05-05 21:23|| Front Page Top

#5 I am no expert in the UCMJ, but a demotion is the last thing I expected. My guess, only a guess, is that she was offered a chance to retire as an O-8 in exchange for dropping all charges against her, and she declined.

I actually expected her to get a wrist slap and then told she can stay static in her career, for she will never gain another command the rest of her carer.

Hopefully some active duty folks will come to the fore and 'splain this.

Posted by badanov">badanov 2005-05-05 21:58|| http://www.rkka.org]">[http://www.rkka.org] 2005-05-05 21:58|| Front Page Top

#6 I was listening to the some local radio guys talk about how Graner had to have some sort orders to follow because he was too stupid to do this on his own. I contend that you donât have to be smart to be a deviant and given the photos that were provided it seemed there was a nest of deviants and Graner was the LEADER. The reason he was found out was because someone who wasnât a deviant couldnât stand by and let it go on. They were having some weird sexual-deviant experiences and it was allowed to go because the higher ups didnât bother to check up on them. I find it really hard to believe that Military Intelligence depended on a Sp4 Army Guard Member to âsoften upâ common criminals to extract God knows what marginal information. The General Karpinski claims that she had no âJurisdictionâ on that part of the prison and it was outside her chain of command. This doesnât square well with the DOD policy of One Base, One General, One Commander policy. Even if there was a Secret MI operation to âsoften upâ people on her base the General should have know about it. Apparently the special courts martial also felt she should have known and they donât believe the Shadowy MI personnel story any more than they did at Granersâ trial.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2005-05-05 22:12|| 2005-05-05 22:12|| Front Page Top

#7 Oops I finaly read the article! The cleaned house UP the chain of command, which lead right to General Karpinski.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2005-05-05 22:16|| 2005-05-05 22:16|| Front Page Top

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