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2005-07-09 Europe

Euros still not getting a clue despite London

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-07-09 00:36|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Moreover, Germany is the only country to bring people accused of being members of the Sept. 11 terrorism team to trial. But both cases have foundered, not because of some excessive civil liberties scruples on the part of the Germans, but because the United States refused to provide records of its interrogations of terrorist leaders.

How about extraditing these types over to us? We shouldn't have any trouble prosecuting them....

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-07-09 02:44|| 2005-07-09 02:44|| Front Page Top

#2 New York Slimes reporting on Euros? Don't waste your time.

Posted by Captain America 2005-07-09 03:18|| 2005-07-09 03:18|| Front Page Top

#3 Behold the lightweight fantasy ramblings that now constitute "journalism".

What civil liberties restrictions in the US? Hello? This non-fact is referenced constantly in the mediasphere and idiosphere, yet .... there's absolutely no there, there.

Oh, and US borders aren't "open"? Gee, that'll surprise a lot of coyote operations based in Baja.

Best of all is the "Iraq as the new Afghanistan" idiocy. Let's see. Afghanistan was a sanctuary, untouched by US covert ops much less military power, nominally run by some islamist kooks who actually sub-let large portions of the country to AQ and other terror groups, where training and attack planning were conducted with impunity. Iraq is a country with a large US military presence and growing, improving local government security forces where the terrorists are relentlessly hunted and killed and captured in large numbers on a regular basis. Yep, looks the same to me ....

And as for a training ground, I'm not aware of any bombs in Iraq that resemble, for example, those just used in London. Almost all bombs here are just ordnance that's fused using different sorts of timers or remote command-detonation systems. Unless there are huge quantities of AT mines and 155mm artillery shells lying around Europe that I'm unaware of, there's little direct relevance to bomb-making in Mosul and bomb-making for use in Europe. And in any case, most such training can take place anywhere, from the Antarctic to Greenland to downtown Tokyo -- no particular advantage to doing it in Iraq. But aside from all that, I guess that yeah, Iraq is a perfect training ground ....

Posted by Verlaine in Iraq 2005-07-09 03:26|| 2005-07-09 03:26|| Front Page Top

#4 Lol, Verlaine! Masterful dissection and MASSIVE Bitch-Slap!

*standing ovation*

Posted by .com 2005-07-09 04:14|| 2005-07-09 04:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Echoing Verlaine's point, running around the Afghan mountains will teach you shit about running a terrorist cell in a Western city. And I doubt running around Iraq will tell you any more. If Afghan and Iraqis 'veterans' are a pool of potential terrorists, where are the examples of 'veterans' caught or killed? There aren't any because its just an MSM meme with zero substance.

Otherwise, Verlaine is right. European's civil liberties are already far more restricted than those of Americans.

Posted by phil_b 2005-07-09 06:19|| 2005-07-09 06:19|| Front Page Top

#6 Personally, I'm prepared to respect the rights of anyone who's prepared to respect mine.

Posted by gromgoru 2005-07-09 10:16|| 2005-07-09 10:16|| Front Page Top

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