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2005-07-12 Home Front: Culture Wars

Census Bureau-GOP as population shifts south (or rats leaving a sinking ship)

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Posted by mmurray821 2005-07-12 09:34|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Not sure that the shift is entirely attributable to population movement. Part of it may be related to the fact that libruls usually bread below the replacement figure.

Save the endangered moonbatus librulii species? I am a strict darwinist in this regard! ;-)

Posted by Sobiesky 2005-07-12 09:49|| 2005-07-12 09:49|| Front Page Top

#2 Nuts. It's not going to be that static politically. People tend to bring their baggage with them. Examples of political drift can be seen in Idaho, Montana and Arizona vis a vis the 'Californica Exodus', and in New Hampshire from the Massacusetts refugees.

Posted by Pappy 2005-07-12 09:59|| 2005-07-12 09:59|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm with Pappy on this one. Many will bring baggage with them and cause elections to be closer within each State. However, over the long haul, the Repubs benefit, as the libs don't tend to produce offspring, and the "Roe effect" (hat tip: Taranto at OpinionJournal) continues on. The election's will become closer, but the stakes (# of Electoral College votes) will get bigger.

Posted by BA">BA 2005-07-12 10:41|| 2005-07-12 10:41|| Front Page Top

#4 They will bring their baggage but they will no longer be brainwashed by the NYT

Posted by JFM">JFM 2005-07-12 11:59|| 2005-07-12 11:59|| Front Page Top

#5 JFM - don't know if they will, but they can.

NYT delivers out of state, too.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2005-07-12 13:20|| 2005-07-12 13:20|| Front Page Top

#6 At the same time, they say, Republican states such as Florida, Texas, Arizona, Georgia and Nevada likely will gain congressional and electoral clout.

So Florida is a Republican state now? I thought they were one of the all-important swing states.

Class, are there any other factors not included in this Census Bureau report which may have changed the voting pattern in Florida (or other states) since the 2000 election? Anyone? Bueller?

Democrats are toast in so many ways. Ha.

Posted by Chris W.">Chris W. 2005-07-12 14:29|| 2005-07-12 14:29|| Front Page Top

#7 Of course they can. But a lot of them will content with the paper from the local news stand (who in addition is more centered in things of practical interest for Nevadans), they will have more contacts with republicans, their children will not be brainwashed by total moonbats and so on, perhaps also they will like another style of life (remember, if those people had been so happy about Masschusets they would have remained in it). The longer they stay the more right wing they will turn.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2005-07-12 14:37|| 2005-07-12 14:37|| Front Page Top

#8 It doesn't seem to be the case as much now but not too many years ago when I would talk to a Northeasterner or Midwesterner that had "emmigrated" to the South their biggest complaint was "That's not how we do things back home". My reply would always be, "Well, then go back home because that's how we do things HERE". I think over time our regional areas have melded somewhat. I have talked to a LOT of people in the last 3 years who have retired here from Northern climes and NONE of them would go back. It's not just the cold up there, but the whole non-moonbat experience of living here. Contrary to what they've been told we here in the South (mostly) don't dislike people just because they are Northerners. They seem to really like the slower pace of living and the fact that, mostly, the local governments stay out of their business. I'm not saying we don't have our share of moonbats but it seems to be a different type of moonbat, one not totally off the deep end. The more Libertarian aspect of life here seems to appeal to them and some have even changed from Democrat to Republican. Some haven't changed from Democrats but did vote Republican in tha last Presidential election. I believe this accounts for why some countys here and in Florida had more votes for President Bush than there were Republicans and Independants. Moonbat Democrats look at this apparent disparity and see evidence of voter fraud. They don't want to face the fact their party no longer appeals to a large segment of it's membership.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2005-07-12 14:43|| 2005-07-12 14:43|| Front Page Top

#9 Deacon,
I would agree. The southerners I met were some of the nicest people and willing to help you no matter what. (although I hated the bugs...)
People seem to blend in, for the most part, on where they live.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-07-12 15:21|| 2005-07-12 15:21|| Front Page Top

#10 Really... the biggest complaint I have about living in Texas is they cannot build a road system to save their lives... jeeze, people, you can cove the damn road so it sheds water... and in other places, they have designed freeway interchanges that did not involve a 45-degree dogleg turn, and a steep uphill climb that dumped you out in the fast lane!
I can afford a house in a good neighborhood, y'see. Makes up for a lot. And the city government is as amusing as hell, too.

Posted by Sgt. Mom">Sgt. Mom 2005-07-12 17:28|| www.sgtstryker.com]">[www.sgtstryker.com] 2005-07-12 17:28|| Front Page Top

#11 mmurray821 told

The southerners I met were some of the nicest people and willing to help you no matter what. (although I hated the bugs...)

Bugs are as intolerable when perpetrated by northerner programmers. ;-)

Posted by JFM">JFM 2005-07-12 17:28|| 2005-07-12 17:28|| Front Page Top

#12 Sgt. Mom wrote:

Really... the biggest complaint I have about living in Texas is they cannot build a road system to save their lives... jeeze, people, you can cove the damn road so it sheds water... and in other places, they have designed freeway interchanges that did not involve a 45-degree dogleg turn, and a steep uphill climb that dumped you out in the fast lane!

Actually, I've always found the roads in Texas to be a lot better than the roads here. OTOH, I had a friend once from up north who said that Louisiana's roads were a lot better than she had imagined them. I suspect because she never went to the "right" streets in New Orleans, or the back roads in Iberia and St. Mary Parish that were badly broken up from all the cane trucks (which the state is starting to regulate somewhat more strongly, hopefully alleviating the problem).

Pappy wrote:

Nuts. It's not going to be that static politically. People tend to bring their baggage with them. Examples of political drift can be seen in Idaho, Montana and Arizona vis a vis the 'Californica Exodus', and in New Hampshire from the Massacusetts refugees.

Well, there's a strong selection effect going on, in that the ones more likely to move to (for example) Texas (outside of Austin, which is sort-of an outlier) are the ones less likely to be freaked out by Texas politics to begin with.

Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-07-12 17:57|| http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]">[http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2005-07-12 17:57|| Front Page Top

#13 Migration is a self selecting phenomena. People move from were they are dissatisfied to where they will be more satisfied. So expect a leftward shift in the states being left behind.

Posted by ed 2005-07-12 18:07|| 2005-07-12 18:07|| Front Page Top

#14 Atlas Tanned, anyone?

Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-07-12 18:10|| http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]">[http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2005-07-12 18:10|| Front Page Top

#15 Contrary to what they've been told we here in the South (mostly) don't dislike people just because they are Northerners
damn straight, we can hate for a hole lot of other reasons, like stealing the damn steps offten my trailer home

Posted by half 2005-07-12 18:59|| 2005-07-12 18:59|| Front Page Top

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